Nofap

Shit, I'm scared now

raypeatforum.com/community/threads/masturbation-downregulates-certain-androgenic-receptors-in-the-brain-and-upregulates-certain-estro.6998/

Amazing amount of pseudo-science in one post

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The proof is yourself, give it a rest for a month or two and see how it affects you. Of course, if you're not ready for such an endeavor you'll spout shit on the internet on how it's a meme to feed your insecurities.

>$0.00001 has been deposited into your account.

30 days in and i couldnt help it and edged a little bit...do i need to reset?

don't feel like my progress is lost bros

Damn, had no idea there were real benefits. Thanks user!

>I’m too woke to masturbate, so instead I’ll spend my energy defending not masturbating on a site filled with porn

Eh, I think you should just avoid porn. Not really sure about nofap itself but porn avoiding porn can be good

why are you so hell-bent on shilling for porn and fapping, when nofap clearly has a positive effect on tons of people? is your life really that sad that you have to tell people, that are feeling better, be it placebo or whatever the fuck this thing is, that it's all a sham?

Doesn't count unless you cum

I did my 90 days challenge. Nofap doesnt cure autism hold me bros

this is my streak
these last 2 days have been almost impossible im constantly daydreaming about sex, when the fuck is it going away

Like a million people have already said in a million of these threads, masturbation is fine. Jerk off all you fucking please. Just don't watch open. Never watch it if you can but at least limit it a LOT and dont fall into anything too depraved and you will be fine.

Example - jerking off in the shower to some hot girl you know is totally fine, even good for you, but laying in bed for 2 hours edging to BBC and cartoons on a daily basis is definitely awful for your psyche.

Masturbation good, porn bad.

holy fuck i suffered through that urge wave right after 14 days, about the same time i got my first wet dream in years due to fapping

i haven't relapsed yet! :^)

Edging is masturbation, anons. Reset the counter.

some people just need to quit cold turkey.

is the progress lost if you have a wet dream?
ive had them twice already and im at 40 days

op asked a question and I gave him my answer. I’m all for noporn, but you gotta call a spade a spade. I only ever see beta men promoting it and never any chads or alphas, which makes me skeptical. hell half of that subreddit admitted to being virgins, not exactly the type of people I want life advice from. fish oils can have positive effects on people, but you still have to see it for what it is, which is a placebo.
why do you nofappers get so defensive to the tinniest critism of nofap? its always “Jew shill” or “sad porn addict” instead of giving real proof of why it works. it’s the same whiny close minded mentality that the sjws takes when you criticize them and they call you a “trump supporter”, fuck your cult mentality

noporn is good but nofap killed my libido and I had some problems getting hard and staying hard for sex.

just my personal experience I know others had the opposite results

how about you fucking try it yourself

if you can't stop fapping for a couple of days you have a problem

I'm on day 12 of noporn/nofap. I've been so horny all day I want to blow my brains out. I'm thinking about going to the gym to blow off this steam, but I went yesterday. I'm doing SL 5X5, is it healthy to go back to back days? My usual routine is every other day

no. you can't really control your wet dreams and its sort of a way for your body to clean out the excess semen produced

fapping isnt the problem, it's fapping to porn

Not a meme. PMO makes you feel like shit. It's too intense a stimulus, and it's a self-cucking cuz you watch another dude rail the object of your desire. Literally a direct attack on your self-esteem. Wean off with /s/ and get your fapping to a reasonable level, like every 3 days or something, and you'll feel better.

Long-term hardmode is its own kind of project. I once went 500+ days NoFap with one 6mo streak of hardmode in there. It's cool--you can really gain a lot of mental clarity by learning to set aside your sex drive. But it's difficult and only for anons who really want to try for some next-level consciousness. By no means do I think every unmarried male needs to live hardmode.

>fapping isnt the problem, it's fapping to porn

>why do you nofappers get so defensive to the tinniest critism of nofap?
because you are essentially calling what people are feeling bullshit

>increased focus
>increased motivation
>girls actually seem to take more interest in you
>you got a burning "fire" in you, passion or whatever
>brain fog gone
>actually feel happy

there's your real "proof". if its placebo i dont care, what i'm feeling is very much REAL, and the whole thing of you denying it is fucking ridiculous. if you haven't even tried it yourself, just shut the hell up, because you dont know what the hell you're talking about

well it depends on what his goal is

>sexdrive is a myth
testlets

>don't really care about the physical stuff, just doing this because religion and exercise in willpower.
>day 5 ; randomly got crazy horny for no reason like 3 times today
>college campus
>girls walk around all day in pants vacuumed to their asses
>hnnnnnnnnnnnng

Someone please tell me this is like quitting smoking, and it gets way easier. I've heard your brain rewires itself from noporn after 90 days, but holy shit this is rough.

yeah around day 5 I start getting mad mires. Is it my posture? Am I just noticing more mires (that are always there) cuz I'm hornier now? Does my face look different? People used to think semen was stored under the eyes cuz your eye bags would be more noticeable after spoogin. Was the difference in appearance never real? Why did people think it was real? We all know we feel different NoFapping. That's enough for me, it's my prostate anyway

Wait a minute...

Hey!

It's the hardest thing you can ever quit. I've quit cigs, weed and benzos but nofap is killing me, however day 30 for me right now, stay strong bro we're gonna make it.

Still no proof.

we're not here to convince people that has no interest or open mind. you're just gonna have to take people's words for it. now if you don't want to try it for yourself, fine, i don't give shit, keep stroking

Seriously, what is up with all this no-fap sentiment in this thread and every other? Let people do whatever the fuck makes them happy and a better person. Man It's just pathetic seeing you asking for scientific proof that something indeed makes you feel better. Is their word not good enough for you? Why are you so obsessed with what people are doing or not doing to their fucking dicks? Yall are gay as fuck

Fapping and playing vidya in excess in your youth is like being an animal being raised in a zoo. You push the lever, open your mouth and wait for the food to come through the hole. Meanwhile, others have to hunt the food themselves and learn imporant skills on the way.

This.
Also a meal you earned yourself tastes much better.

Instant gratification has been a problem in our society for quite a while now and the internet has made it way worse

if it took prob 10+ years to have conclusive evidence that smoking kills and even more years to show the public that its a danger to their health

it will prob take 10+ from now for the public to realize that jerking off alot affects people. the thing is jerking off doesn't kill it just hinders males

and people will still smoke and jerk off even after years of research and knowledge shown to the public

I may be into nofap deeply now with a bias, but that doesn't mean I'm a good person

in fact its Darwinism, I personally want more of you losers to jerk off everyday and ruin your lives

makes it much easier for guys to get laid when the competition has more chumps

pls go ahead and continue being beta boys

> I only ever see beta men promoting it and never any chads or alphas, which makes me skeptical.
chads and alphas have no problem getting pussy on the regular my dude

It depends on the person and what you are trying to achieve. I'm no fapping because I have bad sexual anxiety issues when I'm with a girl. I used to fap and watch porn a lot, but could easily fap without porn, too. I could fap to thinking about a girl easy, but my nerves got to me do bad when I was actually with one it made it really tough to calm down, which made it really tough to get or keep a boner if I was stressed out. My problem is I think I'm perfectly comfortable getting off on my own, so comfortable that I'm nervous as hell when I'm with another person. So just no fapping is essential to my goals because I'm trying to reprogram myself to be used to and comfortable with doing it with another person, and so I'm going cold turkey on fapping, hoping thst only being able to get off by doing things with my girlfriend will help rewire my fucked up brain to associate, and be more comfortable with, being with another person to getting my rocks off.

I'm on day 2 and going insane, I used to fap 5+ times a day, it got to the point where I would fap in the washroom at work

I'm 27 and can do nofap with ease because at my age your sex drive is pretty much dead

Day 4 lads, still going strong
Gonna make it at least a week

I've had 7 in 40 days.
Life is suffering.

>27
>no sex drive
low test detected

27 is old bro it's no doubt he has a low sex drive now

t. soyboy

I want to jerk off, but I'm going to lift in an hour and a half. I think it might hurt my gains. What do you guys think? Does jerking off before you lift affect your performance?

T. Teenager

>pretty much meme yourself into a fucking illusion

This is literally bluepilling yourself

Literally the only reason to do nofap is so you can cum during sex when you actually get a gf. Every other reason for nofap is pseudoscience bullshit

>reward system
>The chronic masturbator has built his brain's nerve pathways in such a way that he mainly gets his pleasure from masturbation and his drive to do other productive things like self improvement or anything really is diminished, he may still do them but not with the same vigor as a healthy striving normal purpose, because when you masturbate a lot you don't feel the need to do anything or just do it half assed, as long as your body is concerned you have had sex - you don't need to worry about anything now.
>Nofap forces the brain to go into a reboot, by not giving it daily pleasure via masturbation you are destroying the built pathways and that's where people start reporting "superpowers"

You realize there's a study proving that even after 90 days of no masturbation the endocrine response to porn is the same? Go back to

lol you suck as a person.

i did nofap and after about 3 days i started getting crazy boners all the time i couldn't get rid of
so i just fapped because they were annoying me

I'm 30 and I still fuck daily so I dunno man

After 30 days no fap my entire sex drive is gone. I don't want to fap and I don't want to fuck.

What have I done?

The benefits you all claim to get from nofap is actually your body just having more zinc you idiots

cumming lowers your zinc levels

youre beyond sex
use your energies to advance civilization into the stars

I'm like a week in. Also started supplementing zinc.... my dreams are so sexually aggressive lol like jamming my penis into girls mouths getting footjobs and assjobs left and right. Wake up with the fattest wood it's unreal.

Zinc is what gives the benefits of no fap, when you aren't cumming all the time your body retains its zinc

You don't have to nofap. You can fap less, but there's no reason to nofap. If fapping is cutting into your daily life in a MAJOR way (15 minutes a day isn't fucking major), then you should probably cut back on it.

if i jerk off before i lift, i feel less motivated, weaker and do fewer sets.

Here's the redpill:
NoFap is nothing else but placebo, maybe it raises test levels but after 7 days it goes back to normal.
However, like another user said ITT, placebo actually works.
If we want to get metaphysical, it's not much different than doing a magickal ritual, say a sigil. When you make a sigil, you are assigning a meaning to an act ("making this sigil will bring up a desired experience"). NoFap is no different. You spend hours on reading about NoFap and when you finally decide to do it (your knowledge about the subject and your expectations will dictate the result, nothing happening is also a result too) you've assigned a meaning to an act ("not masturbating will get me superpowers/will get me laid/will make me alpha as phuck/etc."). After you've gone enough days on NoFap, your experience will go accordingly to what you expected.
The following events may happen:
If you had doubts about it but geniunely thought it would work anyway, you'll have average results (not really superpowers but noticeable improvements).
If you thought it was bullshit from the beggining, you'll experience nothing and you'll end up with blue balls.
If you fully believed this was a life-defining change for you, then you'll get incredible results and will probably turn your life around.
This is why people have such different results with NoFap. It's nothing grounded in "objective realtiy" (except for maybe the test increase) but instead a manipulation of your subjective reality. Because everyone holds different assumptions about "how things work" and different expectations, it will yield different results for everyone.
TL;DR: It's placebo, but placebo is more powerful than you think.

>but after 7 days it goes back to normal.
false

Is it false? Great! Then I was wrong about it. Doesn't matter anyways, people still get radically different results from NoFap so my point stands.

ok but make sure you nofap

How come I feel like shit after when I jerk off and cum, but when my girlfriend makes me cum, I feel great?

Is there a single board on Veeky Forums that has not been fully infested and infiltrated by the jew?

>freed from the grip of females. You've made it brah.

Cuz that's how your organism (mind) works... I saw a J Peterson vid about why porn makes you feel like shit and so on

Shortcuts to pleasure short-circuit motivation.

The more pleasure you can obtain with ease, the less you'll want to work for it. If you are unmotivated, nofap is a significant part of getting rid of vices that reduce productive and prosocial behavior.

Hey OP, ask yourself this

Do any of your normal, socially-adjusted friends or other normal socially-adjusted people participate in no-fap? If not, who are the only people you ever see participating in it?

NoFap is only good as an exercise in willpower. You could jack off and feel really good and cum but instead you forego physical pleasure for the satisfaction of having mastery over your urges.

I figured when you don't experience tremendous benefits doing nofap just rub one out when you absolutely have to. The tricky part is not getting down the rabbit hole with porn and fapping like a degenerate. I experienced 0 benefits for these 43 days and just had 0 sex drive at the beginning and extreme cravings that made me feel foggy and distracted in the last days so I just got tired of it and gave in. I would also like to note that I made it nearly to 6 months in the last year, but got back to square one with porn. Nofap made it worse I think because it establishes a toxic relationship to masturbation when you conciously try to abstain from it. You might end up craving it more and when you relapse you end up using it as an excuse to fap excessively to porn because you're more obsessed with the day count than with beating the habit. I remember when I would just fap 1 every week or so and that felt way more healthy even though I used porn. The bad thing for me was obsessing with porn and collecting it and stuff which is a huge waste of time.
Also while doing nofap I was just horny in my "fapping environment" at home not outside of home. I think the internet triggers just the urge to fap so I think I'm not really healed from watching porn in the last year. I will just continue like I did before with no porn and masturbation and just fap when it gets really bad. Maybe meditation will help idk. Maybe this helps someone out there, just do what works for you and focus on actually bettering yourself than just on not rubbing your weener like I did.

This is true. Went to basic training and AIT for the Army, didn't fap for a good ~5 months. Felt great.
I wish I could say the same now. I need more will power bros.

Die

I've been in a monogomous relationship for a long time. Here are my thoughts on porn and masterbation.

>masterbation
They are right that this drains your will. So does sex but sex is more fufilling so it's definitly better. I think if you're jerking off multiple times a day that's definitly bad. Not ever orgasming just seems destructive at all; completing denying your instincts is never fucking gone. I find a balanced approach is good for me. 5 orgasms a week is the perfect sweet spot. Sex is better than porn obvious but you can't always have that option.

>porn
If you are using porn as a substitute for a girlfriend or as your sole source of pleasure that's really fucking bad. I imagine it probably isn't fun but a distraction. Porn is fine if it's used for fun.

There's bad types of porn: porn where the guy is ugly or faceless, porn where the girl is ugly. If you're going to identify with someone doing dicking you should be identifying with someone good looking. Porn that focuses only on someone being hurt or humilated (be it the girl or or the guy). I used to be into it and cutting it just made me happier all around.

Out of all fapping ERP is most fun and probably the healthiest for you since it's creative and active rather than just being a passive observer. It's definitely the most fun. Provided you avoid all the people with fucking mental problems or insecurity complexes: there's a lot of them.

My general point here is this: the best is a balance. Not fapping is just not fun but being controlled by porn isn't where you want to be either. Porn is pass time, it's not a substitute for a bad sex life or an evil parasite that sucks your will, you can turn porn into that but it's your fault, not porn's fault.

Fapping should be about fun.

>You realize there's a study proving that even after 90 days of no masturbation the endocrine response to porn is the same?
>dats right goy, now go fap to blacked!

Funniest thing is, no one in nofap thread actually committed to nofap more than month or two, except for one occasional person, and when you asked that person, how is nofap for 6 month (year, 5 years, insert long ass period here) affected him the response is pretty meh, not much really changed, he just feels a bit better. The rest are losers who started weeks ago, month tops, and they're super hyped about this shit. But 99% of them are gonna fail and will never actually hit that 90 days mark, but will advocate for nofap meme every day and will hope that one day they're gonna make it. And that 1% will barely post in this threads, because they've achieved nothing impressive to share with other anons here, nothing that will cheer them up. The placebo only works for low-willed types, who will post "OMG 6 DAYS HERE MY DICK IS SO HARD, HELP ME BROS" , for whom not touching their peepee for several days is an achievement on its own.

just jack off, what's wrong with you? for fucks sake. keep it to once a day, before bed, and you'll be fine.

Jerk off once a week, but don't use porn

Yes, /an/ and /po/ dont have any, im pretty sure.

No it doesn't. He's tugging his winky, he's masturbating.

I can't speak for other anons and I cannot tell you where this comes from. But I can share some personal experiences that I've had over the last 5 years experimenting with NoFap.

I do not believe in the "super powers" that a lot of people talk about, that being said, I do think that there are differences between somebody who masturbates (more specifically to internet pornography) and someone who abstains.

During extended periods of NoFap (3 months) I become calmer, more composed. This has some interesting inward and outward affects and I believe this impacts the way you perceive yourself as well as how you believe others perceive you (which is very interesting).

The "calmness" gives me better spatial awareness, and by that I am including people and interactions with people. I give myself more time to let situations sink in and that gives me more time to react better. This naturally leads to less autistic moments or at the very least, minimises their impact. In turn, this gives the impression of control, both inwardly and outwardly and you, as well as others, respond well to that.

It doesn't remove failure from life or social situations, but it gives you the room to breathe and learn. I think that people who see you fail but recover will definitely respect you more than before. We all fail in life, but others, I think, judge you more on what you do with that failure.

I think this leads to competence.

I don't get that when masturbating. I feel like I cannot control situations and that situations should be ignored in order to minimise failure. Which I think is the wrong approach to life.

So I think that NoFap definitely has something to it, but it's still up to you, to improve your life and the life of others around you and that will require failing hard and learning a lot.

>nofap to preserve muh precious dopamine
>not supplementing dopamine precursor instead
you people are such brainlets you don't deserve to make it

Youtube: picturefit

He has a lot of informational videos, even on that topic and always backs them up with studys

yourbrainonporn.com/studies-reported-relationships-between-porn-use-or-porn-addictionsex-addiction-and-sexual