So what do you think about cannabis and the use of it during workout´s and everyday relaxing...

Can't tell if serious, but anything can be addicting.

Smoking weed is a bad idea user... ever since I smoked myself into horrific panic I never fully recovered to my former self(mentally), after those experiences I started having debilitating panic attacks, I thought I was loosing my mind and becoming schizophrenic. In hindsight it was just severe anxiety(the worst I've ever had, ever). I've still smoked weed since then but I always did it with booze or with benzodiapanes, to counteract the potential panic/fear.

At first I responded really well do weed, and could smoke without having to have a back up plan, but ever since I smoked to much and got that psychedelic like k hole panic things just changed.

Anything that can make you go from chill to feeling like your world/sanity is coming down on you shouldn't be considered safer than alcohol. Seriously that's fucked up, it's kinda evil when these dope fiend potheads try to shill weed to everbody like it's just like drinking alcohol but safer, when in fact comparing a night out binging to a night out laying in fetal position because you smoked so much and your body and mind is going through 100% charged flight-or-fight response... which is actually healthier? All I'm saying is that you you don't go into deralzation, severe panic on booze.

Yes you can. I had to go to rehab and I didn't care about anything but getting high and smoking my mental pain away.

Now I'm addicted to sushi-peaches and guacamole.

Bru.... there are a lot of people that used to be heavy users that either go to a rehab/where they take anti psychotics to get off it(because of the anxiety) or straight up have to be institutionalized in a mental ward because they go psychotic going off or go into psychosis from smoking too much for some time.

This is you

youtube.com/watch?v=uUPHlAbAf2I

Stop looking for ways out.

sure can. also gives me some nasty withdrawal symptoms as well

good job friend

Weed increases levels of anxiety and stress if smoked on a constant basis, as well as loss of motivation and leads to unhealthy lifestyle. Only good to use on occasions when relaxing or having a day off with some friends.

>people legit think weed isn't addictive

This is a strawman put up by stoners to deflect from the very real issues and side effects of smoking weed. Yes, it doesn't have addictive substances that are found in cigarettes or alcohol, but the effects it has on the body are incredibly addictive. Its very much like eating ice cream. It makes us feel good, but isn't good for us.

Smoked everyday for about 2 years, never felt addicted but I most certainly felt withdrawal when I quit last November.

Holy shit how big of losers are you that you can't balance pleasure and a Veeky Forums lifestyle? Btw, if you ever said that shit in public most girls would laugh at you fpr being scared and every guy would call you a pussy.

I’ve gone 1 day without smoking. Can’t wait to smoke. Mfw addicted to high grade

I suspect that people who have reactions like this to drugs are NPCs

>will it destroy your lifting life and make gainz impossible?
no
>are you better without it?
yes

>tfw I used to be a stoner until I took an arrow to the knee.

Smoked 4 year long straight while lifting and working on a construction site. In long term you will get dumb and lazy if you don't know how to manage it properly.

If I smoke tomorrow about 2g of weed, will I be tested clean in about 10 days?

it makes long runs more bearable desu
just don't smoke it all the time like some kind of stoner and you'll be allright

I think its fine, it's legal where I live in the US

I lost a ton of weight while smoking daily and cutting back on drinking

You think that's bad? Try going that long without your phone, or porn.

This.

Smoking too much is an absolute nightmare that not a lot of people talk about. I remember smoking an entire joint with a friend, who kept pushing me to smoke more and more, when I felt the need to vomit and my heart started beating so fast. The feeling of your body panicking and at the same time going numb, is incredibly terrifying. And its constant. Its an out of body experience that is not the fun time stoners will tell you it is.

All of the effects will be constrasting each other. You feel relaxed, but your heart is racing. You're body will grow numb, causing you're mind to slam you into panick mode, fighting the effects.

I'm high right now and I don't feel that way

Theres a huge difference from being high and being too high. Usually people know their limits from smoking a few times, but those who are unaware, or trying to push themselves, are in for a nightmare.

I don't think weed is that bad for most people, but replacing your booze with it just because you need a drug for everyday relaxing instead of just having sober days might not be a good sign about you rather than the weed.

Sobriety shouldn't be unpleasant or worth evading on a frequent basis, that means you don't have your life in order.

I like it but if you don't take a break every now and again you'll need it just to feel normal. if you use it all day every day you become lazy and sluggish. Just limit yourself and take a tolerance break every so often. If it prevents you from getting things done, you need to stop and get your priorities straight.

I’ve been meaning to take day long breaks from my phone. Already avoid porn, fapping is my biggest addiction

It's the other way around desu, being unable to be strongly affected by things means you're just dull-minded.

>weed isn't addictive is a strawman
>there's nothing addictive in weed
>but it's still addictive, like ice cream

We’re all NPCs man...

i actually like goinjg out and about without my phone. i focus more on my surroundings and think less introspectively.

low reading comprehension? it's what the weed does that people crave.

there is a difference between addiction, and really really liking something. You can't form a physical addiction to weed, hence why there's no withdrawal like there would be with cigarettes or heroin, because there's no chemical imbalance in your brain.

>there is a difference between addiction, and really really liking something
>mfw brainlets actually believe this

It also shrinks your testicles.

too many factors at play to determine. Google "weed test calculator", its not the most accurate, but it does take into account your lifestyle, stomach size (fat), weight, gender etc and can give you a good estimate of when you will be clean

It has electrolytes

I smoke everyday and lift everyday. Doesn't slow me down at all. All comes down to respecting the chemical and having willpower.

You missed the point. Weed itself, as a substance isnt addictive inherently, such as nicotine, but the way it makes you feel is addictive.

>doesn't offer a rebuttal
nice contribution to the argument. My point still stands, marijuana does not cause physical addiction in the traditional sense. I smoked it for 7 years, stopped one day for a drug test and never had any issues the following two months of having to get clean. And i know im not the only one. Try doing that with something like heroin and you'll find yourself fucking dead.

No it has more or less the same effect on everyone he just isn't a pussy

>marijuana does not cause physical addiction

teens.drugabuse.gov/blog/post/marijuana-withdrawal-real

luxury.rehabs.com/drug-detox/marijuana-withdrawal-symptoms/

The point was that the substance can be very addictive because of what it does. It allows you to relax and enter a state of mind that a lot of us can't on an everyday basis.

Same with alcohol

>sure can. also gives me some nasty withdrawal symptoms as wel

Same especially edibles, the day after i cant get any studying/ lifting done and basically cant enjoy anything

you're totally missing the point of what the original post you were quoting was trying to say. people use it as a coping mechanism like any other drug but that doesn't make them physically dependent on it. they crave the high and the escapism of weed until it becomes a habit. not everyone has the capacity to just drop it.

You can get addicted to anything, some things are more potent than others.

People are addicted to jiggling their leg when they are inpatient or nervous as a coping mechanism. Weed can be a coping mechanism too, if you use it during social situations in order to calm down, or to get more involved or even if you know you wont enjoy yourself unless you do it.

The truly bad addictions are when people use drugs to cope with issues rather than deal with them. If you have ever had a stressful day and then starting smoking weed to cope and you start doing that habitually instead of dealing with the issue, thats an addiction.

Considering weed also ruins brain growth between children and 30 year olds its a really shitty one to have as well.

I love that feeling. Extremely cathartic.

Up there with coke on how addictive it is.

>weed smokers enjoy panic attacks recreationally

bad theory

Smoke 5grams daily for a year n try to quit cold turkey. Shit will send u straight to psychward

Lol!! No dude, I went to a a mental hospital, then to another facility for 3 weeks

Thank you user

Hahahaha I AM a girl. There was not really pleasure, more of turning my brain off from all of the violence I had dealt with lol. Now I smoke like 3 times a week as opposed to like 6x a day.

Anything can be an addiction. Working out can be an addiction too, but definitively not detrimental like weed.

I was prescribed an mj medical card, and any medication can be abused.

Stop saying it isn't addictive becasue everyone's mental state and family history is different. Sure you may not feel it has that same addictive effect on you, but very anxious people turn to mj as a crutch and it ruins their lives and destroys countless opportunities. You can never be your best self if you let things like that hold control over you.

Not everyone is a neurotic pussy. Weed is physically harmless and only irresponsible use of the chemical will result in bad experiences. Set and setting applies to weed too.

My main fitness issue with weed is that I get distracted while I'm working out and a 45 min workout will turn into a 1 hour workout

My main main issue with weed is that I use it as a crutch

You unironically need Jesus user. I suffered from the same thing for years, one day I prayed and asked Jesus to heal me, and I literally felt that pain vanish.

Smoke everyday pretty much addicted. It is brilliant after a workout but it really demotivates me.

>it affects everyone the same except those who it affects differently

grand theory sweatie, smoke some more

how do you smoke 2g in a fucking day? I get high everyday and that would last me 2 weeks

>using chemical irresponsibly in a bad environment
>has bad experience
>blames the chemical
laughing at your life right now

> criticizing people not being able to balance pleasure and Veeky Forums lifestyle
> the first guy you replied to literally limited his weed usage...because he's balancing pleasure and Veeky Forums

Weed is one of the most addictive drugs in my and people I know their experiences.

I quit benzos and other stuff with much more ease than weed. I didnt quit weed yet. I try to every week.. i dunno.

My mate sniffed 100g of pure coke in a couple of months and when he ran out he just felt tired. But no issues. If he is out of weed hell call me up in panic at night.

People who say weed is not addictive are like saying psychedelivs are harmless.
Yall are pussies who smoke 1 joint a day. Try smoking 20 to 30 a day and talk. Try eating shrooms till your vision is permantly fucked.

Yall some soft ass cowards who never knew no hard times. If yr not trying to smoke the pain away ofcourse its not going to be addictive.

Pic is what i smoked today. Some purp

is this a joke? There's no way youre this retarded?
No, i get that, what im saying is that it isn't addictive. Only literal weak willed brainlets cant drop it. There's no chemical imbalance in their brains forcing them to use or else be subject to severe withdrawal symptoms. They use because they have no incentive not too, are lazy and would rather not go about their life's without weed. Compare that to someone with a legitimate addiction, (i.e. heroin) and you'll see there is a big difference.
You can argue your point for literally anything.
Bottom line is you can quit or temporarily stop using weed without the crave overtaking you or severe withdrawal symptoms. The urge to smoke a joint after stopping is about as strong as the urge to eat a bowl of ice cream during a fasting for a fat fuck.

you're a fucking retard. You weren't addicted to benzos if you think it's easier to come off of them then weed.

Lmao I throw 0.5g on my bong to wake myself up. 20 min later another time to feel normal. Before noon hits 2g gone.

Or you roll 2 doobies

>psychedelics are harmless
They are physically harmless, like weed (though smoking weed is arguably worse than vaping or eating it).

Hm care to eloborate? Makes sense no?
People who say weed is not addictive dont smoke 24/7

research any addicting drug withdrawal side effects and you will understand. You aren't fevered and feel like you're dying with a 100F+ temperature for two weeks from quitting weed

I have asthma and had to go to emergency breathing treatment from smoking too much crack. I smoke half a pack a day and I just quit drinking 7 days ago, been smoking a bunch of weed in the meantime. I stopped lifting from all the drinking and drugs and want to start lifting again, will I be able to make gains smoking every night

Mate id chew a months worth of kpins valium or xanax in one go.

300mg valium 15mg kpins yeah benzos suck u get ill but it doesnt fuck u up like weed does

I vape sativa in between sets. So far it's been pretty good.

research benzo withdrawals. You are fevered and feel like you're dying for weeks. Worse then heroin withdrawals.

Elaborate on what?
Using myself as an example, I have a job pre-screening drug test coming up. I literally, not figuratively, smoked 6-7 times throughout the day, every single day, for the last 6-7 years.
Every once in a while i have a drug test come up for different jobs, and about a month in advance I stop to get clean naturally and have no issues. Do i wanna smoke? Sure, i love weed. But do i feel a debilitating urge to smoke that absolutely must be satisfied? Fuck no, because im not a brainlet and can obviously put together in my mind that toughing it out and just waiting to pass the test to smoke is better because
job > weed.
The only people i know who are dependent on weed are that way because they literally dont give a flying fuck about stopping, and have no incentive too.
Give them a gun to the head, and i bet they will stop. Or some other good reason too.
Everyone is different, granted, and it may be easier for me to quit than the next guy. But it's not impossible, nor is there a chemical imbalance caused by weed, AKA physical addiction.

They arent my whole vision is fucked up. Cant drive at night anymore due ligjt sensitivity. Thats the worst symptom the rest is annoying like visual snow but u get used to it.

Visual cortex got fucked. I still got 20/20/ vision. Or 125% the bitch said dunno what it means. its something in the brain.

Thank you user
2 long and thick pure weed sticks timed over 8 hours
Smoked much more the last years. Highest amount was about 12g in 15 hours. Mental issues were never be the same. My paranoia went with weed after I restricted smoking only once in 6 weeks

I dont care qbout reading up. I care about personal experience. Mine and that of others.

Mental addiction > physical addiction

I smoke everyday starting when I wake up. It's not addictive.

The dose makes the poison. Compare it to wine (even though they are completely different substances with very different effects) there are many people who have a glass of wine in the evenings. This is fine. There are some people who drink a bottle of wine in the evenings. There is obviously a difference between the two groups. Consume your chemicals responsibly with respect and you will not have problems. Critical thinking is key.

In states where marijuana is legal, alcohol consumption has decreased. Less beer, less carbs.

6 or 7 times a day is mild not that its a contest but amounts do matter

No. Stop smoking crack retard. You'll never be fit if you're on hard drugs. If you must get fucked up, smoke weed, jeez you're a fucking autist

Yes you will.

Better off snorting. Smoking is so morish. Atleast smoke freebase, especially if u have lumg problems.

Are you fucking high right now? i smoke easily 4 ounces a month, my best friend is a dealer so access to weed is pretty easy. (a blunt is about 1 gram, and i smoke nothing but blunts and bowls).
If you think that is mild you are a fucking dunce, or are trying to impress people on a Cantonese basket weaving board.

I experienced them. You whole body going in seizure is like God punishing u.

But physical things can be overcome. Addiction is not about the drug its about why and how you use it.

You are not making the difference between dependence and addiction.

Can you support that claim with some evidence? Sounds like you are making up the diagnosis that your visual cortex has been damaged by psychedelics. You could have just stared at the sun too long in one of your stoned stupors. How can you attribute the negative symptoms to psychedelics? Unless you are the one exception of millions of users, doesn't seem likely that it was the chemicals fault.

wtf dood, do you even remember how is it to get high?
i smoke a 0.5 gram join through out the day and i think its too much

I was violent and hit my 4 year old nephew when I was going through weed & lamictal withdrawl.

Yeah I know I'm a piece of shit for doing that to that little baby, believe me I know, but I freaked out right after that happened and felt so bad.

I felt so fucking VIOLENT during those 3 months. I hit my dogs and all of this other crazy shit. My patience was 0.

But now I'm clean. My bipolar is still uncontrollable and I need different meds.

Like people said, anything is an addiction. Don't smoke weed as self-medication for depression. It's a trap.

Look into 'big-marijuana'not any different from 'big-pharma'. There is no magic cure. You are the only person who can help you.

What is impressive about being a junkie?.
Im sober right now. I took some xanax coke and weed 3 days ago.

When its all u do and ur whole life revolves around it its addictive. When ur smokig a blunt rolling the next and thats all u do apart from the other drugs and hustling

The human mind is very open to suggestion. Relying on subjective experience is the best way to create an inaccurate and distorted perspective of the chemical. Think critically.

Look up HPPD. Theres loads of people with the same issues.

People like to ignore things they dont want to hear. Mine started after a bad trip. After a year it is finally gradually getting less though, or Im getting used to it.
I did stare into the sun for a long while during one of my psychosis but that was as a result and after I got hppd

I hit my dog too twice im so fucking sorry.. I dont know who that was and why he did that.

I get lit after working out on Wednesdays, don't know why just on on Wednesdays but its become habit.

WEED

Weed is only bad if you smoke it. It's better to have a single brownie to start the morning on cheat day Sunday before Church. Makes your stash last longer, is more potent, and doesn't leave you or your home smelling like a dirty hippy.

Sounds like you had a lot of mental issues before you smoked, whacko. I smoke everyday and don't worry about shit.

Duhhh get out of here normie