>HOW DO I SAFELY FAST? >take around 4700 mg of potassium per day max >2000 up to 3000 mg of sodium per day max >MIX THIS INTO AT LEAST A LITER OF WATER, sip it through the day. This will keep you hydrated. This is regularly referred to as snake juice.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5064803/ "Our results suggest that a fasting program in conjunction with resistance training can decrease fat mass, and maintain muscle mass in resistance-trained males."
>WHAT SHOULD MY FASTING ROUTINE LOOK LIKE? If you're lean, 5:2!-- OMAD (one meal a day, 1-2 hour eating window) 5 days a week + 48 hour fast a week If you're a fatass, FAST UNTIL YOU AREN'T.
>WONT I GO INTO STARVATION MODE AND DIE?! You don't have the willpower to fast to death. Now look down. See that large bulbous gut? That's food. Thousands and thousands of calories stored and ready to be consumed by your body.
>WONT I LOSE MUSCLE? This is the coolest part about fasting. Your body remains very anabolic when you fast.
Next day, I gained 2kg back during OMAD. Which is probably water weight. How long before I shed the water weight?
I also had trouble while breaking the fast. I drank coconut water and a liter of water with electrolytes before eating my dinner and ended up with endless hiccups. The only solution to the hiccups was to puke some of it out. What did I do wrong and whats the proper way to end a dry fast?
Julian Sanchez
my favourite is foodie beauty, she's extremely fat and talks about weird shit she's done, how she wants to diet and her black hood bf. Great motivation, she's the kind of woman I don't ever want to be but feelsgood watching her eat everything i can't.
if you drink a lot of water in very little time (snake juice or plain) you'll shit water, just take it calmly. Fasting gets easier with the amount of fasts you do, don't expect your first time to get easier after X day. It kinda takes practice, after a while you'll find yourself on day 14 feeling as if you just ate an hour ago.
Dylan Phillips
I'm 18 hours into operation see my abs by my birthday. Essentially just going to see how much I can drop in the next 8 days//200 hours.
SW: 193.2 (but this was immediately after eating a big meal & drinking a lot of water, generally before re-feeds I'm hovering around 180.0. Based on previous fasts I should be there by hour 40 at the latest) GW: 165, but will stop well before that if I feel like I'm lean enough. honestly i have no idea if this is a realistic target, but i'm also relatively confident i don't actually need to go that low based on how my body looks at 180 CW: 185.2
Obviously we're still in the early bigtime pissgains stage of it but I'm glad to be on target. Current plan is that each day that I hit the target I'll maintain a water fast. If I'm behind schedule I'll switch to a dry fast. If I'm ahead of schedule I'll allow myself to drink coffee (I know what the Snakeman says but I'm okay with this). If I'm way ahead of schedule I may allow myself to get a low-carb meal immediately after a weights workout.
Lincoln Evans
That was insightful. One more hour until I can eat. How does anyone here handle food going bad? That's one of my excuses, that if I don't eat it, it'll go to waste. (Milk, eggs, veggies, etc.)
Jayden Brown
just don't buy food. Buy what you'll eat and no more. Keep the fridge and cupboards bare.
Christian Rodriguez
>How does anyone here handle food going bad?
I generally just wait until the day I'm planning on eating to buy anything, and only enough to use up that day. I'm losing some money by not buying things in bulk quantity, but considering I'm eating so infrequently these days, it's not a huge issue for me.
Aiden Edwards
By smaller portions.
Instead of buying a gallon of milk, buy a half gallon or quart.
eggs are good for 30 days. don't worry too much about the date on the carton. Optionally hard-boil the ones left-over going into the fast, dice them up and toss them into the freezer. Salad topping for when you break
veggies: buy less or frozen
Connor Walker
Thank (You) I appreciate the help. I split the food bill with my roomates and they don't eat anything remotely healthy unless I convince them.
I'll keep your advice in mind tho, thanks again.
Oliver Campbell
>splitting the food bill
Are you absolutely fucking INSANE?!
Parker Stewart
Is anyone here /skinny/? Have you made any gains while fasting?
Joseph Scott
There is no need for you to fast...
Easton Diaz
Yeah this. IMO you should focus on the gains for now. Eat clean, maybe do OMAD & eventually start slipping in 36s or 48s if you're able to put on some beef.
>I also had trouble while breaking the fast. I drank coconut water and a liter of water with electrolytes before eating my dinner and ended up with endless hiccups. The only solution to the hiccups was to puke some of it out. What did I do wrong and whats the proper way to end a dry fast?
how fast did you drink those liquids? without seeing your answer my guess is you need to slow down on liquid re-uptake
Jaxson Stewart
Oh god damn it. I took a caffeine tablet while and now my stomach and head hurts. I guess caffeine is a dumb idea while fasting. At least taking caffeine directly. I feel awful. My heart is racing too. All from a single tablet. I don't have a caffeine intolerance nor do I take caffeine more than once a week. I guess when I do it while fasting it fucks me up bad.
Owen Collins
Drink coffee. Even if its decafe.
David Taylor
if it's just the one (200mg) just drink some water and relax until it passes
honestly I never understand why people take those things, they have more caffeine than any single serving of a drink (except espresso or other crap like that) and you don't really get good effects out of that much (as I'm sure you know by now)
Aaron Flores
>tfw 10oz of moka pot coffee a day Fuck this addiction
Austin Martin
Pretty rapidly. Gulped down 200ml coconut water. Then maybe 4-5 minutes later started gulping my 1 liter of electrolyte water and finished the bottle in 10 minutes.
Tyler Jenkins
>Pajeet?! That's a first. Prolly the lightning. I want to try fasting more though to get rid of my rear love handles, though.
Brandon Young
You a girl? Post pus
Logan Cook
Did you not see him manly hands?
Samuel Phillips
24 hours into my first 3+ day water fast. Feels weird not to be in the kitchen, but tolerable so far. Kind of miss coffee/tea but I want to be clean.
Brandon Rodriguez
>Kind of miss coffee/tea but I want to be clean This is stupid and makes no sense, you can drink all the tea and coffee you want. I see shaven feminine thighs i know that. You rub lotion on those bad boys?
Christian Perry
Been doing 48-72 hour fasting for the last 3 weeks. The weight loss hasn’t stopped but and at first I did loose a lot of fat, but now I fell like I’m also losing muscle. Also, pic is how I measure my body fat and muscle percentage, is it garbage?
Chase Young
I want to get rid of caffeine addiction though.
William White
Probably not losing muscle. You're likely experiencing depleted muscle glycogen.
Christopher Cox
First, why? Second now isnt the best time, youre struggling through something thats already very difficult. You can still drink decaf coffee.
Jayden Hall
yeah your body can't absorb all that in 10 minutes, space it out over an hour at least
Angel Thomas
Anorexiabreh, you don't have love handles
Luke Fisher
Do you have egg yolks in an ice tray?
Matthew Torres
Thank you. I'll do as you suggested.
Juan King
>eggs are good for 30 days Eggs were the only thing left in my fridge other than 8 x 2 litre bottles of water and it was becoming clear that I would never eat them before they went off, so I broke them into ice cube trays and froze them.
I keep them as an emergency supply of food in case I need it nothing else. Should last a year in that state, but to be honest if I'll be returning home to Scotland in a month, so they'll just be defrosted and thrown in the garbage.
Just realized I've hit another milestone - 20% weight loss.
Michael Martinez
>Do you have egg yolks in an ice tray? Yup. Just for emergencies during my fasting. Fresh eggs wouldn't keep.
Dominic Lee
STOP DELETING YOUR FUCKING POSTS JUST POST AGAIN OLD MAN Interesting.
Elijah Robinson
aww dubs why you mad bro ?
Leo Gutierrez
hey after doing alternate daily fasting for months I'm incorporating a 48h minimum fast weekly. what can I expect?
Kayden Reed
Not, its just funny that old dude deletes his posts constantly if he makes a typo.
Jayden Mitchell
Nopes, not shaven. I just don't have leg hair. Shit. May have become anorexic, but I'm seeing love handles here. Or maybe lose skin.
Benjamin Long
Share Lent meals brehs, this is my veggie chili with brown rice
John Robinson
>I just don't have leg hair. omg yer perfect bb . show vageen and bobs
Anthony Williams
Officially 50 hours lads
Michael Ortiz
>STOP DELETING YOUR FUCKING POSTS JUST POST AGAIN OLD MAN Seconding this. It's obnoxious. IDGAF if you have a type, this isn't plebbit
Alexander Parker
>May have become anorexic That's exactly the case breh. You're good, that's not love handles
Sebastian Garcia
>Nopes, not shaven. I just don't have leg hair. Please tell me you dont grow pubes either
Sebastian Cruz
You should get your body fat % measured. I'll bet it's pretty low. Your "love handles" are hardly that.
Charles Torres
How fast can somebody lose 70lbs on OMAW? Currently 270lbs, 6'6', at the gym 6-7 days a week, 1-2 hours per session, mostly lifting heavy with some cardio.
Hunter Green
Just broke my 72 hour fast w/ some oj, feeling great. Gonna have some chicken broth soon, followed by some bratwursts. Thanks for the moral support fellow anons.
Ian Murphy
We were talking about this in /fast/ #118 and the view was that if you're under 200lbs you can lose 0.75lbs per day and above 200 lbs slightly more (assume 1lb per day).
So roughly 70 days if you do keto as your OMAW to keep ketosis ongoing.
It depends how rigorous you are about it though.
I started my fasting as little more than a test (expecting it to fail like all previous efforts) and only got really serious about it after several weeks when it was obviously working.
Age: 51 (Male) Height: 173cm / 5"8' Weight at start: 116kg / 256 lbs / BMI 38 "Obese Class II (Moderate-Risk obesity)" Current weight: 92.3kg / 203.5 lbs / BMI 31 "Obese Class I (Low-Risk obesity)" Weight Lost: 23.7kg / 52.3lbs / 20.4% Body Weight
Weight Target: 68KG / 149lbs / BMI 22 "Healthy" / Projected to hit around Mid April 2018 Stretch Target: 60KG / 132lbs / BMI 20 "Healthy" / Projected to hit during Early May 2018 Stretch Target 2: 55.4KG / 122.1lbs / BMI 18.5 "Healthy" / Projected to hit during Late May 2018
TDEE: 2,105 Calorific deficit: -1,959 per day / -13,713 per week Fasting Regime: OMAW+165hr fasting each week OMAW: Usually 4 Lamb chops with gravy and ratatouille, but not always -> 1,022 Calories
William Rodriguez
>was about to break my fast >had a dream for the first time that encouraged me not to
Nicholas Murphy
I've been doing leangains 16/8 protocol where I workout after work, which is after 2 meals, but I'm taking my biggest meal before my workout as opposed to after, am I getting any benefit out of this or am I wasting my time?
Adam Anderson
>Just broke my 72 hour fast w/ some oj god why???
Noah Fisher
if your intermittent fasting, say you eat every couple of days, if you ate whatever you wanted at maintenance calories on your eat day how badly would it affect ketosis?
Adam Davis
I squeezed it out of the orange myself, dipshit
Henry Baker
my NoSalt comes tomorrow but my pink salt isn't coming until Monday... can I substitute regular salt for my snake juice or should I wait?
Mason Campbell
>how badly would it affect ketosis? Depends on your macros
Cameron Harris
someone pls respond
Ayden Nelson
>if your intermittent fasting, say you eat every couple of days, if you ate whatever you wanted at maintenance calories on your eat day how badly would it affect ketosis?
It depends what you are eating, if it's carbs then ketosis will grind to a halt and stop a few hours after eating.
If you're eating pure keto then your ketosis declines while your body eats the calories that it has digested and then ramps back up.
Unless you want to lose fat constantly, you probably don't want to be continuously in ketosis though and fibrous vegetables are essential in a healthy diet.
Grayson Scott
Based poo poster. Anorexia. Tsk. Never thought that would happen to me. Okay, I guess I'll start eating. But I'll still lose these on OMAD or keto right? R-right? What do you think I am? A prepubescent magical girl? Everyone over 20 has pubes.
Joshua Gutierrez
>what can I expect? The sun to shine out of your arse, maybe?
It depends why you are doing it, which you haven't said. Fasting gives a shit load of benefits, but some you only get after doing it for days at a time.
What results are you looking for? Body Fat % decline, weight loss, aesthetics, etc.,?
Nicholas Lewis
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Robert Evans
weight loss, but what I mean is whether 48h+ fasts will feel psychologically different from 24h+ fasts
Aaron Reed
Not really, 48hr fasts are not significantly different from 24hr fasts.
You will lose weight at a slightly faster rate is about all, but things like ketosis and autophagy are unlikely to get a look in.
Juan Carter
>dipshit Why? Why you gotta call me names? Its a fair question you fucking dumb faggot. Shoudve just eaten the oranges instead of juicing them.
Ryder Green
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Joshua Lopez
I took what I learned about OMAD and modified it a bit to fit my lifestyle.
Instead of one meal, I just do an IF 8hr eating window. I eat about 1500calories in that time, and then I fast 48 hours a week.
I'm down from 285 to 255. I started Jan 10.
I'm lifting on the Texas method. My lifts >Squat 225 >Bench 185 >Deadlift 315 >OHP 125
I was 1/2/3/4 When I quit in 2015 due to injury and a toxic gf. Its coming back. feels good man.
David Miller
Fair point cock muncher, but I felt like some liquid
Aiden Williams
I got some liquid for ya
Isaac Allen
I see. While I'm enthusiasm incarnate on feasting days, I act like a hormone flooded teenager on fasting days, feeling more prone to anger and such. It's manageable currently, but I like the people I work with and can't engage them properly when I'm like that. It's like life becomes colorless and I can't relate to their positivity, so my fear was that it would get worse.
Anthony Murphy
Jesus. I've never had that thank fuck. I'm my normal placid self all of the time.
About the only difference I find being on pretty much permanent fasting (except for about 3 hours a week refeed) is that I don't get the peaks and troughs I used to do while eating all of the time. So for me, fasting is far better.
I feel for you bro. That must fucking suck balls big time.
Angel Barnes
Thanks. I paint a dim picture but since I eat every other day and I'm making slow but steady progress it's a worth burden. I'm fat because I ate to dull suffering, being tested like this is the proper thing for me.
I'll visit /fast/ and update you guys to say how the change feels. I'm gonna make it too.
Isaac Butler
17hrs in, feeling that first nasty wave of hunger. The boredom really isn't doing any favors either.
Cameron Rogers
You won’t make gains unless you’re consistently at a caloric surplus. Unless you’re going for autophagy gains and he like
Ayden Smith
3 weeks in and already drop from this to 175.4, years of depressing counting calories every few hours and weight fluctuating.....i finally found a lifestyle that seems to be ideal for me. Alternate day fasting is working for me so far. Only issue is horrible breath even with brushing..
Jacob Parker
>Autophagy gains Sounds like some toriko-level technique. Teach me how that works senpai.
Julian Lee
not that user but atophagy breaks down junk proteins and recycle them and you'll produce more HGH thus gains
Zachary Taylor
autophagy
Nolan Campbell
So, my doctor prescribed anxiety meds to be *taken as needed*, and even on low doses, I eat almost nothing anymore. Is this *close enough* to fasting? Also, is suicide a legitimate option?
Elijah Richardson
By almost nothing, I mean, I had a beef stick for breakfast, nothing for lunch, a few crackers for dinner, and only drank water.
Benjamin Ward
Just so you know...
"A study by Michaelson et. al. in 2009 showed that therapeutic fasting alleviates depression symptoms and improves anxiety scores in 80% of chronic pain patients after just a few days. The mechanism behind this is not known but it might be linked to the release of endorphins in the first 48 hours of fasting. Similar to a runner’s high, endorphins, which resemble opiate drugs, make you feel good in response to a metabolically stressful event. Another study by Michaelson et. al. in 2003 has demonstrated that after 8 days of therapeutic fasting, sleep improves significantly compared to pre-fasting conditions. Anyone who has ever had a few nights of poor sleep knows this can be a powerful moderator of mood as well as changing your general sense of well-being, which was also subjectively reported to improve with fasting."
By the way, I've suicide might solve the problem for you, but it dumps that problem on those who love you and magnifies it.
My friends girlfriend hung herself after he dumped her for being crazy nearly 30-years ago. He still carries that shit around with him every day.
Don't just think of yourself, think of those who love you.
Gavin Ross
that is calorie deficit. if you moved the breakfast meal to dinner, that would be omad, intermittent fasting
if you stopped eating for days, that would be actual legitimate fasting
Cameron Powell
Going to start doing OMAD, I'm at a healthy weight and started going to the gym early mornings again. Should I make my meal an early morning feast after my workout or should I workout and not eat for a few hours after? If I choose the second would a protein post workout shake be okay?
Liam Myers
Human growth hormone levels rise as you fast, so you should workout before you eat. After that, it's up to you
Josiah Perez
I just had my first liquid shit after 6 days of fasting. I think I drank too much salt water. My problem is it was a very light reddish brown which almost looked like blood. Am I fucked?
Camden Kelly
>don't eat >body makes me feel bored and sluggish thanks body
Joseph Thompson
salt and potassium applecider vinegar
Hunter Smith
>fast for 90 hours >longest fast I've done >next day feel like shit Is this normal?
Andrew Cox
see
Mason Roberts
>Is this normal? Not for me.
Did you eat? If so what did you eat?
Were you feeling shit before you ate or afterwards?
Levi Phillips
Yeah, she eats a lot and admits she has a problem with food, she tries sometimes dieting and fasting. I focus on her double chin when I get anxiety to eat and it disappears almost instantly. 10/10 would recommend.
Jack Green
How do I potassium without supplements?
Brandon Peterson
This. Am I able to harvest potassium salts in the wild? Am I able to synthesize it myself? If so, how? I know you can get potassium hydroxide from hard wood ash, but how do you convert that to the chloride salt?
Justin Cook
Just buy some fucking LoSalt and stop being autistic.
Logan James
What if I find myself in the wilderness, lost and with no food (or if get into Naked and Afraid). I'm going to have to find a way to synthesize snake juice. If I'm in a tropical island, then sodium shouldn't be too hard. But potassium is going to be a problem no matter where I am.
Leo Morgan
Then feel free to eat the bananas.
Potassium is like the 6th most common element on earth. It is in lots of different foods, the only reason its a big feature here is because it is important if you aren't eating anything.
Even then you can go a long time before you actually suffer (rather than just feel) the effects of potassium deficiency.
Quit worrying about bullshit.
Jesus.
Jonathan Johnson
>if you aren't eating That's the point. How do I synthesize/harvest potassium salts in the wilderness if I can't find food (bananas included)? No reason to get your panties in a twist. I'll just go ask the fags at Veeky Forums then.
Don't know what I was expecting bringing up chemistry in Veeky Forums.
Xavier Reed
>naked and afraid Wanna know how I know you're autistic?
Ryder Hill
>How do I synthesize/harvest potassium salts in the wilderness