Guys, we need to talk (tl;dr incoming).This is both about mental health, sexual health and, in a general sense...

Guys, we need to talk (tl;dr incoming).This is both about mental health, sexual health and, in a general sense, the health and fitness of our society. I think porn has ruined a lot of you. If you watch porn every day, you need to start watching less of it. At the very least, you need to realize that you shouldn't be emulating all that porn shit you see, especially on the first fucking date.

Here are good general rules: don't throatfuck a girl or choke her on the first date. Don't slap her, stick your fingers in her ass or start calling her a cuntslut fucking whore out of nowhere. Don't get me wrong, I have done all these things with girls and they are fun, but you have to ease into them. How many girls have you been with that only had sex with you once or a few times and then "ghosted" you. Do you think that was because she found a new "Chad" on the "cock carousel"? If so, you need to stop thinking in memes, and start reassessing your behaviour.

This feels like it should be common sense and yet every girl I've been with has horror stories about guys doing weird creepy shit to them when they don't even know them. Do you not realize that having a stranger come over to your house and start strangling you could be a little scary? Most girls don't think that's hot, they think "Oh shit. I have made a terrible mistake and this guy might kill me tonight." I have met a few freaks who are into all that shit and guess what? They'll make it abundantly clear. These are the kind of girls that will send you nudes before even meeting you and will overtly text you nasty things about how they like to be dominated. (cont.)

(cont.)
These girls are not the norm. Normal, moderately well-adjusted girls have to be eased into the fucked up shit you're into. When a girl is a freak, there are only two or three reasons. She either was molested, is a porn-addicted degenerate or was eased into it by someone like me. There's a huge difference between being assertive or in command and "holding a girl's head down on your cock until she can't breathe and starts legitimately panicking". You have to remember that this is another human being you're fucking. If you have somehow lost track of that, chances are that you watch too much porn.

I'm tired of having to fix all these girls for you. I just had a girl thank me profusely for making her cum during sex. She was so happy about it that it was almost pathetic. She said she had been with 6 other dudes and only one of them had ever given her an orgasm. That means five of you fucks are failing at sex. Take ten minutes to fiddle with her clit, will you? When you're with a girl for the first few time, throw a standard, non-creepy fuck her way, then talk to her about what she likes. You'll be surprised how far that takes you. Making a girl cum is like magic. All of a sudden, she'll start asking what she can do for you and before you know it, you'll have yourself an obedient little fucktoy to play with instead of a one-and-done mediocre encounter with a reluctant girl.

As a man, you have a responsibility to all the other men out there. (Not to mention all these poor girls that you're dicking incorrectly.) When you release a girl into the wild, she should want to do all the nasty stuff you got her into with the next dude. If you're not taking care of business, you're sexually littering. I'm tired of having to turn your trash into treasures. Do your job as a man and stop watching so much porn.

Why would I read all of that?

I can't really disagree with OP. I've only fucked 3 girls in my life. The last one I fucked I called "my little whore" during sex and she was like "...wait what?" We moved on an kept fucking. Afterward she texted me and said it really bothered her that I said that.. it "made her want to put her clothes back on". Porn is poison and I'm still having trouble stopping.

>worrying about hurting a womans feelings when all i care about is fucking her

Its all well and good to NOT frighten the woman you're having sex with, but you are still degenerate zog programmed filth. Fix yourself faggot.

maybe if you're a beta cuck soyboy

otherwise you should definitely choke and spank women whenever you're having sex, they love it

Shut the fuck up faggot feminist soyboy bitch. Porn is bad but your reasoning is the most beta shit I ever heard, women are property and are to be treated as such. Fuck thier feelings because before you got swole they didn’t care about yours now did they?

Women are adults and they make adult decisions like fucking a asshole that will use them like a piece meat, and any woman that allows herself to be used like a piece of meat on the first date is slut worthy only of a one night stand or occasional slam piece.

>tl;dr kill yourself faggot, stop being nice to whores

you know, take a bump
quality thread and those who deny are guilty of this themselves

I don't know what you mean.

I just googled "ZOG" and I doubt you have very good advice to "fix me", but I'll listen if you want to spout off.

I couldn't get though all your post OP but it sounds like some no fap meme bullshit. If a girl doesn't want to be degraded then she can go become a nun.

Fuck your soyboy nonsense.

that's a nice brapper

You probably consider LOG posting and trap threads on /b/ quality too huh?

We need to eradicate the soybois this is getting out of hand.

>pic related is OP

The absolute state of SOY

I appreciate this

Yes, usually overtly kinky ones are toxic (even dudes, not just women).

There's a huge diff between porn brainwashed, abused in the past (or both), and essentially LARPing the pain away, and legitimately being into BDSM/rougher kinks. Learn the warning signs of the former so you can keep toxic people out of your life.

Also agree to check yo'self, seriously, porn is not real life, it's somewhat disturbing how okay everyone is with this even for Veeky Forums (c'mon guise we have all grown up on this site, I bet a lot of you are in your 20s now). being edgy won't last forever. take op's advice if it might help you.

>posting this much fucking autism about girls on the fitness Veeky Forums board

this is by far the most autistic board on Veeky Forums. what makes this place even more autistic than r9k is that at least they know they are losers, you people are losers but then act like because you lift weights and read red pill autism that you are truly more enlightened than most men

>I'm tired of having to fix all these girls for you. I just had a girl thank me profusely for making her cum during sex. She was so happy about it that it was almost pathetic. She said she had been with 6 other dudes and only one of them had ever given her an orgasm. That means five of you fucks are failing at sex.

sure you did you fucking aspie

Fuck off soyboy beta kike

Ohh my god op you such a fucking cuck. Why do you care so much about what random thots care about you? Fuck them and move on, because they will either way. You are so fucking stupid man, you don’t know shit about women, you put pussy on such a high pedestal I’d be surprised if you didn’t cut your dick off so you ca have one.

Seriously you’re low test and faggot as hell man wow I can’t believe how fucking retarded you are, it’s mean like you that fucked these bitches up in the first place giving them injustifed and undeserved respect.

She fuck you? Congrats she fucked 10 guys before and will fuck 10 after you just fuck off you dumbass and fuck more bitches before you make stupid post like this.

>putting pussy on a pedestal
Never gonna make it

>babbies first sex

I’m a straight guy, but I consider myself a male feminist and huge supporter of the LBGT community. I honestly see where you are coming from, the amount of entitlement from cis people is disgusting but there are plenty of people like me looking to put a stop to it. My wonderful girlfriend and I attend many marches and protest to stand against gay bashers and slander, we even host events out of our home for miniotities of any background to socialize, party and plan future rallying events.

So just hang in there the fight is being fought and I see us winning in the end.

lmaoooo /thread

Probably true OP. I like to talk dirty, but I'm not disrespectful when I do. It's more innocent and playful than aggressive "You like that you bitch, you like daddy's cock do you?" kind of thing.

Low tier b8

Well I see you going into the ovens in the end.

I haven't watched porn since I was 16.

I take a more dominant role during sex but I don't harm my girlfriend or leave any marks on her. It's not necessary and it's completely degenerate.

She should take pleasure in surrendering herself to you and then be happy when she discovers that you don't treat her like a slab of meat you can abuse.

The retarded memes about women spread around Veeky Forums are spread by guys you wouldn't want to be in the same room as let alone take advice from.

pretty funny to see this thread. at lunch today at work this female coworker was looking at movies out and she saw the 50 shades of grey movie. i honestly though she seemed like the type who would be into that kind of thing (she is like 32, not married, thin and white, has a bunch of tattoos) was saying how disgusting that movie and its premise are and how any girls into that dom/sub thing (even had to ask what the name for it was) probably never had a father growing up and is insane

That’s girl talk for she totally wants a guy to abuse her and ravaish her body you socially inept autist.

Yea nah I'm going to skip all this reading and just that this why it's just "fitness" and not "fitness and health" anymore

>if a girl says she wants this it means she wants it
>if a girl says she doesnt want it it means she wants it

oh youre one of thos Veeky Forums autists lel

Maybe if the girls weren't such whores that slept with total strangers on the first date stuff like that wouldn't happen because they could already filter out the weirdos and creeps.

You clearly don’t know she about women, it’s not a meme. I’ve fucked girls that have literally told me they don’t want anything to do with me. They always mean the opposite of what they say, and the bitch you referred to in your post was obviously trying to seem high class and unique in her opinion but she wants to be used like the dirty slut she is too.

This. Casual sex and feminism killed dating and monogamy. If you learn a woman has more than 3 sexual partners by the time they are 21 years old, and you fuck her in the first date she is a thot and should be discarded like garbage. A real woman will make you wait atleast a month, no matter how good your “game” is or how good looking you are.

Poorly worded on my part, I meant to say "the first time you fuck".

Anyway, nevermind guys. I don't know why I posted this or what I expected from this thread. It just bums me out to hear all these fucked up stories from girls. Do whatever the fuck you want I guess, but keep in mind that these are human beings that you're toying with. I still think that porn is pretty harmful overall and you'd do better to watch less of it or to watch tamer stuff.

I'll just live my life knowing I share the world with maniacs and degenerates. It's just a bit sad to me. I think I'm about ready to leave this place and become an adult. Maybe move to some kind of cabin and read the Greeks in my spare time.

Thanks for helping me getting healthy. Some of the memes were fun and a lot of you were all right.

but let me guess its perfectly fine for the guy to have a ton more than 3 sexual partners by 21 and to fuck on the first date, and that makes him a socially superior alpha male rather than disgusting thot, right chad?

Okay bye faggot you’ll be back by the way when a bitch you “treated so nice in bed” cheats on you with a big dicked nigger that displaces her uterus and spits on her face during sex.

And when you do come back, keep your faggot post to yourself. The modern thot is not to be respected, no exceptions. Now fuck off.

lock & key analogy faggot

Yes. Women gain nothing from being thots and actually lose connection with each man they fuck as they are emotional creatures, men however were designed to conquest and spread their seed.

Despite the faggot soyboy cuck shit you were raised to believe men and women are not equal, the play different roles and sex has different rules for men and women. Whether they decide to abide by those rules is thier choice, but I’d pick a Virgin over a roastie any day.

>tries to put this long analysis of women's sexuality into calling them all whores
>but what about a manwhore
>lmfao lock and key, men cant be whores you soyboy numale libcuck

you are both absolutely, 100% virgins.

I’ve slain 30 thots, I’m 20 years old plan on reaching 100 by next year as I’ll hsce access to bars and clubs. I have also dated 2 escorts, and a stripper. I also have a variety of female friends.

Women are thots and are worth more the lower thier body count is. Men that fuck a lot of thots are more desirable to women due to the concept of preselection, which basically means since other women like him he’s a good choice for a mate.

The only one that’s a virgin here is you, as I said you don’t know she about bitches and whores, so shut your stupid fucking mouth bitch.

gross

Fuck off

No you have a problem. And that problem is touching other penises via female carrier.

>ive slain 30 thots

imagine being 20 years old and this pathetically autistic, on Veeky Forums of all places

oh wait
>people are actually falling for this

What are you even talking about?

>every women is a thot
>if she wants to be treated like a whore during sex she is a thot and there are no respectable women
>if a girl specifically says she does not want to be treated anywhere near that level of filth, it means she is just putting on an act and actually wants to be treated like a thot

Levels of autism this high actually impress me.

hahahah butthurt as fuck

go back to r/theredpill and take your autism with you

>Guys, we need to talk (tl;dr incoming).
tldr
thanks for telling me before i read that trash

>lmfao lock and key, men cant be whores you soyboy numale libcuck
are you this retarded? sexual selection is a thing and the lock & key analogy is a proper. do your ethology homework or look like a retard (You)

>Thinks girls aren't actually on the cock carousel

Thinking girls don't take advantage of the hand they had dealt to them might be the most beta thing on the planet.

This isn't in some sperglord rant like is saying. Just sensible fact. Humans love and crave sex, male or female. But girls have the power and ability to get it any time they want it. There is ALWAYS a line of dudes wiling to give it to literally any type of girl, even very obese ones.

If you have any female friends that you are actually friends with, ask them about tinder or use it with them. I do it all the time with female friends. Constant matches, literally more often than not, it's unreal from a guy's point of view. How many of them do you think would actually say no if they message first saying "dtf?".

So of course girls are on the cock carousel. I wish I could be on a vagina extravaganza similar to what they have. But we don't have that power. It's unbalanced as fuck.

90% of women fuck the top 10% of guys.

Not him, but what is hard to believe about this. For every girl out there fucking, there's (generally) a guy doing the fucking to her. Any reasonably in shape guy can get pussy significantly easier than 80% of the rest of the out of shape population. Remember, women mostly prefer ottermode

>men being able to pump and dump and literally leave with zero repercussions vs a woman having to carry another being for 9 months + give birth is just a meme!
Uh, do you understand biology?

I don't eat pussy and it pisses a lot of women off
but then again I haven't had a problem making them cum
many of them will often spout
>I can't cum during sex
last girl I was having sex with would keep yelling things like
>I'm your little slut
and it kind of killed my boner
>tfw most of my partners have fucked on the first date
>and they always want it more than me
all bitches do ride the cock carousel
>most of the women that try to elevate our relationship end up getting hurt because I don't give a shit about the other men they get constant attention from in their phone
if you don't manage to tie one down in middle/high school you are fucked
if you want a happy life with a wife you need to be her first and only
otherwise you end up in the same carousel as these roasties

>A real woman will make you wait
Charlie is that you?
But for real i feel bad for you guys. Sounds like you just can't connect and you're making up reasons.

nope

Do you understand condoms?

>missing the point this bad

A girl from the gym I hooked up with a few times stopped seeing me out of the blue. when I asked her what we were doing tonight she said "I'm seeing someone else" I wondered what went wrong. Then I realized after the gym I had 4 scoops of mass gainer and was farting on her favourite blanket and she was getting really pissed about that. I though she was just jokingly being mad

Porn and a very kinky ex have given me somewhat unreasonable expectations for sex.

I've started seeing a new girl recently and don't know what I can/should do with her for the first time.
Part of me wants choke and slap and throw her around like the cute little slut she is, cum in her face and have her thank me for it. Obviously that wouldn't be too clever, I had to ease my ex in and she was was very kinky from the beginning.
This girl is very shy, a bit passive when making out and generally likes to let me take the lead.
Which is fine, she'll make a nice submissive fucktoy.

Where can I start? I often catch myself putting my hand on her neck because it's just so fucking hot and play it off into caressing her.
Can I choke her softly? Not the kind where I actually press on the blood flow, just to give her the feeling of being under my control.

I realized after choking my gf for fun that she is into BDSM shit(she confirmed it). What do girls into this shit like

Beatings

Bump because of raging erection.

This

VIRGIN writes lengthy post on the INTERNET and tells you to be NICE to SLUTS!

meanwhile CHAD fucks STACY in the ASS on the FIRST DATE and calls her a CUM HUNGRY COCKWHORE without giving a single FUCK!

you can’t read

thats for women to decide. and since they all keep chasing chad without giving a single fuck about them being huge manwhores, we can safely derive that they don't care.
in fact, pretty much any woman will recoil in disgust at the thought of a male virgin. they actively prever 'experienced' men.

>For every girl out there fucking, there's (generally) a guy doing the fucking to her.

1 chad fucks 10 girls
10 girls fuck 1 chad each
9 betas fuck 0 girls each

this level of delusion is insane

From a woman, thank you for having a shred of sense and common decency

>From a woman,
*slurps chad's balls and asshole*
>thank you for having
*gets fucked in the ass*
>a shred of sense
*goes ass to mouth straight into deep throat*
>and common decency
*sucks the cum out of his cock and swallows every last drop*

ahh a fellow man of culture i see

I care about men's feelings. I fucked a guy the first time I met him in person (from a forum) because he was really sweet and didn't try to force me into anything so I wanted to voluntarily make him feel good. I'm still fucking him 6 years later. I've never had a profile on Tinder or any dating website because I hate the idea of treating people like items in a catalogue. I want to have actual discussions with humans then form attachments with them rather than making your conversations loaded, telling them what you think they want to hear on a mission to fuck them from the start. We just messaged casually with no mention of sex for over a year before I turned up on his doorstep.

You fucking guys here, ROFL

You keep believing that but 'Chad' is the complete opposite of what I look for in a guy. Also get yourself to a clinic.

You people have wild imaginations. And I don't do anything involving ass.

My first/only/current boyfried of 6 years was a virgin. He didn't try to showboat, he doesn't see sleeping with women as a conquest, he didn't think money make sure up for having a shit personality, he wasn't a self obsessed asshole, he actually saw me as a human being and wanted to be my friend first, which is precisely why I wanted to jump on his dick.

its easy to dismiss this as misogynist internet memes
but when you actually know a "chad" IRL and see how he is fucking a new girl every month, sometimes even a new girl every weekend, that shit gets to you. he's been at it for years, by now this guy has banged HUNDREDS of girls, everybody who knows him is aware of this, yet girls still throw themselves at him and he has no problems at all with finding new ones.
and, to top it all, he's friends with three other guys who are similarly successful with women.

when you see this shit happen IRL, you can't just discard it as made up bragging by lying redpill redditors. you know this shit is real, and just thinking about how many girls have willingly let this guy (and others like him) ruin them forever, it makes your fucking head spin.

>My first/only/current boyfried of 6 years was a virgin. He didn't try to showboat, he doesn't see sleeping with women as a conquest, he didn't think money make sure up for having a shit personality, he wasn't a self obsessed asshole, he actually saw me as a human being and wanted to be my friend first, which is precisely why I wanted to jump on his dick.
and how many dicks have you jumped on before finally settling for his sorry ass? lmao

Classic kek, used up woman near the wall settles for beta provider when she realises Chad would never settle for hehe

There is nothing wrong with me bitch, nothing wrong with having a sex drive and prioritizing other things rather than starting fake “relationships” with stupid whores that won’t apprecate it in the long run and will toss me to the side once the next thicker wallet and bigger dick comes along.

So fuck off, there is nothing wrong with me and I accept things for what they are. Sluts are sluts and will be treated as such, I’m in love with the money.

ITT:

Pretty much. OP will learn sooner or later, unless he’s in manlet.

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Hey OP, my gf cant come. She has never orgasmed before. She doesnt masturbate either. How can I make her come? I spend a lot of time on foreplay including eating her out and stuff but it just doesnt work. Any tips?

>She has never orgasmed before. She doesnt masturbate either.
Majority of women need clitoral stimulation to orgasm.
Unless your dick is like mega fucking huge (and I mean 1% of men, maybe less) or she does not fit into the minor part of women who can orgasm without clitoral stimulus, she will have to use her hand for that.
>that pic
the moment you have to use such hard words and so many expletives, you have failed

>the minor part of women who can orgasm without clitoral stimulus,
all women can orgasm without direct clitoral stimulus user.

its barely 6 paragraphs

imagine having the attention span of a protozoan lifeform

>women are property and are to be treated as such

why is it that i only hear this exact phrase from tryhard beta soyboys

>its barely 6 paragraphs
of some user who is overly confident in anyone giving a fuck about anything he has to say
>all women can orgasm without direct clitoral stimulus
as I said, if your dick is huge, yes, but if you are average you will find it very difficult unless you are hitting the right spot or she's one of the women who can cum easily without clitoral stimulation

I believe women are inferior to men and have told this to them to their face. Sometimes its one of the very few things I'll say to a woman.
They get mad for a little bit sometimes but usually they just laugh and say "You're funny!" while giving you the begging fuck-me eyes.
Be white, be ripped, be over 6 feet tall, buy them sushi, slap them around, tell them they need to leave when you wake up. Not difficult.

Kek

>inb4 rape charges

For choking specifically just start out by firmly grabbing or holding the back or side of her neck while fucking. If in missionary you can move the pressure to the collarbone area (light pressure don't fucking crush her). If she wants to be choked she'll either say it or move your hand there herself. Don't expect it right off the bat, it's usually when we're getting close to cumming that we like to be choked.

Probably going to lose my virginity in a week. Any advice?

Lame pic, "slut fucking whore" makes no sense