does Veeky Forums have children or planning to have? I'm confused on this topic because I always see average losers with their "kids" weighing them down driving shit cars, looking like complete zombies
But all my heroes have them, so it's confusing to me
Just dumped my gf the other day bcs she wants a child and i dont. All these feels
Caleb Brown
Confirmed, have 3 kids, no $$$, drive shit car. Also have a great family, zero debts, people who love my weird sperg ass and a captive audience for my shit dad jokes. It's a mixed bag, there are a lot of pros and cons. If you don't have family though, you'll die lonely in your old age.
Ian Stewart
what about having them when you are like 45 with a chic 15 years younger than you and you already built your wealth and position?
John Rodriguez
>tfw we’ll never go back to the times when photos were novel
Isaiah Lewis
Also unsure of this, would like to ideally hold off until I’m in my 40s but then I feel like it’ll only be late 20s slags and single mums available
Liam Torres
i know several 25 year old chics married to 40+ guys and they are fine bitches choosing the easy life
Carter Roberts
You're a complete idiot. Lifting is full of hardships and your end goal is to "make it", how is having kids any different? The end goal of becoming a parent is to eventually raise a young adult ready to go into the real world with what is deemed to be ready to take on anything. Just keep in mind that anything even remotely long term has hardships. If you don't think you'll get anything out of having kids, then don't do it! It's simple.
Jeremiah Green
why are you talking down to me? does it make you feel superior?
Thomas Ramirez
>The end goal of becoming a parent is to eventually raise a young adult ready to go into the real world with what is deemed to be ready to take on anything.
desu i doubt it's like that for most people
it's just women's biology making them have an urge to have a baby (women care only about babies and as they grow older they care less and less about them) and basically dudes bending over for a woman's demands
Blake Watson
It's as simple as this: if you think you're an average loser don't have kids. If you think you're hero material (to someone) by all means have them. The people who don't want kids, in my experience, know they would make shitty parents and leaders at a very fundamental level and project these insecurities by saying they don't want kids for whatever arbitrary reason
Michael Flores
>The people who don't want kids, in my experience, know they would make shitty parents and leaders at a very fundamental level and project these insecurities by saying they don't want kids for whatever arbitrary reason
i know this doesnt go with your christian doctrine of make belief but the fact of the matter is that more often than not it's the more intelligent more career focused individual who post pones or does not have children, while joe the assembly line operator with a gut and no work ethic has 3 children he always uses to get out of work
Jacob Ramirez
>Already got cut
No loinspawn for me thanks. Most of Veeky Forums shouldn't be breeding either.
Jace Hill
Because those so called intelligent and successful people have adopted the religion of materialism and consumerism
Nolan Gray
maybe but you can see my point right
nobody wants to suffer poverty
Angel Reyes
Vast majority of humans throughout history lived in absolute squalor, real poverty and none of this "I can't afford a new macbook pro every year to go with my new iphone" modern """poverty""" yet here we are.
Elijah Jones
>dumped gf for wanting a kid
do you perhaps enjoy soy? do you refer to your 2 cats as your chilldren?
gtfo manchild
Chase Cruz
>manchild
hello feminist/beta cuck
Luke Gonzalez
yes thats what that word implies
Justin Lee
This
Alexander Reed
it takes far more maturity to fight natural urges than to succumb to them
going right along with the marriage children meme is essentially the path of least resistance
Asher Jackson
Do you resist your urge to piss, to eat? What's so noble and mature about resisting what humans naturally urge to do
Matthew Watson
>urges
Never met anyone who thinks of it as an urge, its the opposite thats the urge here, going for "muh money and freedomz" instead of continuing your lineage
besides, getting kids after 30 severely stunts the potential of your children
Oliver Robinson
it's a sacrifice to attain financial freedom as quickly as possible
i dont know what is so hard to grasp or what cause you are arguing for
Adam Cruz
itt bunch of braindead traditionalists pretending they are going to be making 300k a year no problem
Carson Bailey
You're such a faggot. If anything it's the proper motivation this generation of overgrown children need
Jackson Fisher
i see you have no logical arguements and so start calling me names and getting mad
ok buddy, you do you
Sebastian Jackson
Fuck off to reddit, I'm not arguing anything at this point I'm just letting you know what a massive faggot you are, but im sure you don't need me to remind you
Leo Scott
keep your body well, and thus sperm happy, and you're good to go.
Isaiah Moore
you seem to be frustrated that not everybody chooses to live a life of mediocrity because of poor life decisions
David Parker
what if you do steroids from age 25 to 45
can you stll have children with hcg and hmg?
Blake Ross
Kids are expensive and time consuming without a doubt, but they are also hugely rewarding.
People with young kids are like zombies its called sleep deprivation.
Julian Jackson
Imagine being this booty bothered on a chinese cartoon forum.
There's Billions of people on this planet already. A few deciding not to reproduce isn't going to do any harm.
Carson Phillips
It would be unethical for me to bring life into this world (in addition to the aforementioned problems of spending huge amounts of time, money, and energy I'm not willing to spend on someone else).
Christopher Richardson
Yeah i definintely want kids at some point. I was thinking late twenties (hopefully wife will be a couple years younger so she'll be primed for breeding) when I have all my shit together and can give my kids a good life. I don't want to be a kidless lonely old fuck one day.
Jace Turner
Are you retarded? If you don't have the urge to have a strong son, or the thought of having one in the future makes you miserable, you have some problems with hormones bro
Jaxon Cox
for me it's not that i dont want it
but it's the question of what i want most
>children and working your ass off until 70 years old >no children and retiring at 50 if not earlier
Matthew Russell
>but they are also hugely rewarding.
How?
Hunter Richardson
>girlfriend is on the fence about them >I don't ever want them >Think about getting vasectomy, my body my choice >doctor wants girlfriend's permission in writing before I can
Zachary Jenkins
This desu~
Owen Green
Getting a vasectomy doesn’t prevent your girlfriend from getting pregnant btw, it just makes the babies come out black
Josiah Rivera
Autismo can also come from aged sperm, not only eggs.
Henry Gomez
you can talk about them to people who feel socially obligated to listen
Lucas Evans
>financial freedom >Don’t have kids Best goy.
Hudson Gomez
forever alone RETARD detected.
Landon Turner
why are people so concerned with "not growing old and dying alone"
?
why would that be any worse than spending the prime of your life alone?
Jaxson Cook
raising your children and supporting family requires a ton of money and deprives you of any substantial free time but it sure as fuck sounds less painful then growing old and being sad and lonely for fucking eternity, regardless of how rich you are. then when you're older you can have your free time AND a family
Grayson Roberts
again..
Adam Gomez
But what if you're at your happiest when you're alone and want to spend the rest of your life that way?
Brayden Miller
10/10
Wyatt Kelly
bringing a kid into this shitty world.
adopt
Wyatt Allen
Your heroes are likely shit parents. It's tough to raise a kid well, juggle a marriage (assuming you're wanting that as well), thrive in your career, workout, have your hobbies, keep up with friends, and maintain some resemblance of happiness. In addition to all that you also have to help your wife/ kids with their problems and be supportive for their dreams.
Basically any dad who is doing well by your outside eye is probably dropping the ball in parenting or their marriage.
Parker Perry
Got my gf pregnant in high school, so I said fuck it and wifed her. Now I have three kids, drive a dirty ‘98 Pathfinder, and live a relatively peaceful life. I love it, and I love my kids, but I wouldnt do it over again the same way. I wasn’t truly happy until I started working out last year. I’m only 27 and I feel like an Oldboy man sometimes.
Colton Sanchez
amazing
Oliver Williams
Are you >white? >190cm+ ? >110 IQ+ ?
If your answer to either one if these is no, don't. If you got 3 ticks, go for it.
Isaac Flores
Thats not true. My mommy loves me more than ever and im 26