What's a good beginner routine that will give me strength but also not shit aesthetics...

What's a good beginner routine that will give me strength but also not shit aesthetics? I don't wanna look like a fatty powerlifter on SS and shit.

I'm twink skellymode currently and want to gain like 20 lbs but not be a fatass

It's called picking up a weight and lifting, faggot.

lift and eat.

How about you take an afternoon and read the fucking book instead of the anecdotes of idiots who didn't run the program correctly online?

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Just do a brosplit and eat

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>eat lots
>learn how to lift
>look at what the big guys (4u) are doing
>ask them what they do if you're brave enough

Incorporate triceps/biceps/side delt raises and some forearm work.

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whats fit's opinion on face pulls for traps, neck and rear delts aethetics? Wondering whether i should incorporate them, proper form looks hard to nail down too

lifting isn't for the lazy

you can't even make yourself read, how the fuck do you think you are worth air

Well, while it's here, gimme the sauce, boyo.

I started doing SS and eating slightly over maintainance, got some gains I guess but i'm scared to get fat and lose my definition and then have to cut. I hate fat people so much and I never ever want to be fat even for a little bit

What's a brosplit? How do I avoid gaining fat from eating?

They are almost necessary for shoulder health if you bench often. Do them.

OP fuck off

thanks mate, working up to 1 plate dips too, hopefully they help my rotator cuffs. what about aesthetics wise though?

Enjoy doing things the hard way instead of the old tried and true.

Honestly can't say. I added them in when I started an intermediate program and I'm definitely happy with how I look but no clue how much of that is face pulls alone

kek

cheers lad, im currently adding more accessories to my routine(already have bicep curls, tricep extensions, lateral raises and the like). what intermediate routine are you running now?

I've been here for a decade+
It's just habitual
No clue m8, sorry

I see people posting all the time that you only need 200 cals surplus and others complaining that they bulked too hard and now they're a soft pudgy faggot tho

>hopefully they help my rotator cuffs
Dips are good for rotator cuffs? What else is good for them?

i meant the face pulls helping my rotator cuffs user, bad grammar its on me.

Cool, I'll add them as my cuffs have always been a bit iffy

those eyes tho!

Also, user, just fucking lift weights and do upper body accessory work. It's not difficult. Also read the fucking sticky and do some research.

Of course mate. I ran 531 for a year as my first intermediate program, but to be honest, I didn't really know enough about lifting to properly plan my cycles or to get the most out of my time in the gym. Frustrated, I hopped from program to program for like six months and barely improved. Good thing there was I read through a bunch of programming principles and then got back in 531, but pretty altered to better suit my goals and strengths. Still on it.


Dips will absolutely not help your shoulders

Former skelly here reporting in
here's the advice I wish someone had given me when I started. Could have saved me about 2 years.

First, do anything. As long as you eat, you'll gain (and you'll gain muscle, not fat).
Eating is more important than the perfect workout for you.
Get 1g protein per lb of bodyweight.
If you don't see your scale weight increase, add a little more food each day.

pic related will be good routines to get on

Literally all you need for 20lbs:
-consistency in the gym (don't miss a workout)
-hit your calories and protein each day

past that, you'll start to get a little smarter about training and nutrition, but that will come with time.

don't worry about getting fat. you won't

once again:
-consistency in the gym
-eat

It really is that easy. Keep measuring your weight and if anything goes off track, make a post

Aside from the fact that you're mentally ill, just start lifting.
If you refuse to eat big then the gains are gonna be slow as fuck but they will come. Just don't be eating retarded shit like fast food every meal.
But just know that any powerlifter will beat you in terms of muscle gain doing a standard bulk/cut.

Thanks boys, guess i'll just do SS again tomorrow

Eating is hard because i can't cook shit besides basics and takeouts isn't viable

>I can't cook
>I can't read
>I can't think for myself

OP are you legit a child? No problem with being a kid

note that the former skelly user's benchmark of 1g per lb of bodyweight is good to strive for, but most studies dont find protein intake past 0.64g per lb of bodyweight to be beneficial. It is just a good number to aim for, and you should try to hit your calories first if youre as skelly as you say you are

SS without eating like a retard, retard.

I'm not op

So much wrong with this routine...

I do the ice cream fitness redux that famed retard jason blahaha posted on youtube. The reason I do that vs the normal ICF is the time savings, since I like to do it before work.

keep on it brah, youre gonna make it. on madcows 5x5 routine myself, tempted to switch to a PPL but currently doing a bank internship that's killing me so probably cant afford the time or energy. What do you think about lyle macdonalds GBR by the way?

lol implying SS will get you aesthetic fucking retard doubt you've even done SS

If you cannot even lift a substantial mass then how are you going to lift substantial mass with volume? Just start lifting and eating, then call us back.