If you must ask your absolutely retarded questions, do so on reddit.
Don't use AI, it makes you gay.
Oral only cycles are best done with multiple compounds over 16+ weeks.
ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK.
Previously on >roiding for this
Xavier Phillips
Can you bulk in HGH? Can you use HGH as your only roid for a cycle?
Jayden Gutierrez
yes absolutely.
Logan Reyes
HGH isn't a steroid. Some people see weight gain from water retention but I don't think it's substantial. I never do myself.
If you want to bulk fast hop on. I don't think there are any other great shortcuts.
Joseph Wright
>HGH isn't a steroid What I meant was can I use HGH without stacking it, and "yes" seems to be the general consensus.
Elijah Cook
HGH will do fuck all without a decent dose of test with it and ideally slin. HGH on it's own will offer mainly QoL benefits, sleep, skin, strong apetite but very little growth.
Joshua Morgan
Kept me quite lean on a cruise dose of test, good pumps, roundness etc
Michael Brooks
How would you say it compared cost -> effectiveness to an anabolics stack of the same monetary value?
Elijah Flores
As an Aus brah both are very expensive here you can blast HGH all year where you cant blast test all year. If i had access to american prices i would definitely be using it even though its not obviously comparable gains wise.
Leo Stewart
Also and aussie but not at the level which requires grow. The idea of 4ius a day for the QoL stuff I mentioned does interest me. How much test are you blasting that you cant afford to go year round?
Elijah Butler
What's the longest cycle you guys have ever run? I want to run a 24 week cycle of Test and Deca.
Thomas Reed
I haven't stopped blasting in 11 months
Camden Cook
>tfw i'm not a vain, cowardly manlet with an embarrassing small penis who pumps chemicals up his ass to make up for the fact that he's a GDE shit stain
feels fucking great being 6'5", 247, jacked and not having to waste money to look like a dried out shit ball with bitch tits, a bitch voice and bitch acne.
what's it like being a pussy who will die in his 30s from heart disease?
Jason Edwards
0/10 apply yourself
Anthony Hall
Was taking 4ius and it was more than QoL in mu opinion. Im talking from a health based side, the cost of test wasn't the reason if the was toll of permablasting
Justin Ortiz
>HGH will do fuck all without a decent dose of test If you're at all deficient in appetite or sleep then those are pretty big bonuses. Not to mention it will only benefit you to take a small does of HGH, the benefits outweigh the side effects unless you're diabetic, have cancer, or are at serious risk of either of those things. It also incredibly improves recovery in both joints and muscles, helps fight fatigue and boosts energy and sex drive.
If I could afford to take a small dose of HGH every day all year around I would. Well, that and I'd need to find a new supplier.
Andrew Torres
What are you blasting bro?
Ryder Rodriguez
it was 500mg test for about 9 months then I switched and now I'm on 300mg test 500mg tren
I'm probably dying though
Grayson Russell
decent gains from the test alone?
Brandon Jackson
was that 4ius of pharma or generics.
all great benefits but in terms of muscle growth, a solo run of hgh not only seems expensive but ineffective. anons original question was the effectiveness of growth without anything else.
Adam Cooper
Yeah, I gained ~20lbs of muscle and lost a bunch of fat in the process. I don't actually lift weights, I just blast so I don't have to.
Nathaniel Cruz
>vain >coward >manlet >small penis >pumps chemicals in ass damn user, do you know me?
Evan Martin
Well, I'd say better sleep, appetite, recovery, and less fatigue would promote better growth, but you're right that it won't actively build muscle for you. HGH will however enhance your "natty" gains simply by enhancing your ability to lift and recover.
Isaiah Cox
yes
not me
Cooper Garcia
I agree on all those points. Just feel like money would be better spent on test/deca and a holiday to spain instead lol
David Lee
I hope you're joking
Julian Wright
I'm reading a bunch of shit but I can't find a definitive answer as to when to start taking AI.
On the day of my first pin or should I let the test build in my system for a week or two before I begin AI?
Jordan Cooper
Wtf I’m Aussie and my test costs me 90$ a vial. You can definitely cruise test all year round. I’ve been doing it for five years now
Aiden Johnson
Why not take the GH stimulating sarm mk667 Ive been reading about it recently and can't see the downsides, beyond unknown quality/no long-term studies (haven't searched for them desu)
Asher Russell
Girls like Sephora gift cards and shit right?
David Gutierrez
Fuck that get her something cool like pic related
Cooper Rogers
>gift card
the virgin present
Brayden Brown
Anyone gone to one of those Thai boxing camps in Phuket? Just train there for 3 months and eat all the gear, come back a weapon?
Isaac Roberts
you couldnt hurt a paralyzed chicken after training for only 3 months
Ian Hernandez
Tbh I just give home made candies/sweets (cookies/pastries/cakes, etc) in lieu of a material gift. I haven't had a girl leave me over it yet.
Adam Morris
>you couldnt hurt a paralyzed chicken after training for only 3 months
Blake Powell
if you get her this she pretty much has to fuck you, and you get to go raw and nut inside her
Benjamin Howard
Not for a girl I’m seeing just a good friend that’s moving
I wish someone would buy me a fucking remote control trex man
Andrew Wright
Make her something from scratch then (assuming that you can bake worth a damn)
Jacob Reed
Eh might be kinda weird to give her food and I’m not the most creative person when it comes to food (chicken,beef, and rice life)
Landon Sanders
Every time I see a cute girl with a bull nose ring...
Ian Walker
Y tho. It’s cute and she likes it
Jack Nguyen
where to find qt collage selfie taking gf
David Adams
Gift cards are some weak shit, buy her a real gift. Even if it's not great, at least you put in some effort
Luis Perry
Like? She’s into makeup, skincare, drinking, dogs, and uhh traveling.
John Wright
The idea of a gift is that it's something the person wouldn't normally get for themself. Does she like Sephora? Get her something nice from there. You know her better than us, she probably talks about stuff she likes all the time
Cameron Morgan
Fuck this guy if you give a girl 75$ gift card to Sephora she will cream her panties after she buys the stuff she's been eyeing with her girls
Sauce? Dated lots bitchs
Brandon Wright
samefagging Give her your debit card tell her she has a 100$ limit and any dollar over is a minute tied up and punished my girl loves this shit
Although she usually ends up buying us good dope and some sexy panties then we fuck all night it's a win win
Caleb Morgan
>good dope Get some help my man you’re better than that
Juan Powell
Trips have spoken it's on rate occasion and I'm planning on BnC I don't see much of a difference I don't have an addictive personality
Owen Campbell
ぜんぜんかわいいくない
Jeremiah Rivera
Youre getting ripped off can get it easily from a number of sources for closer to 60.
I wasnt suggesting the cost was the problem if you read my other post it was the health constraints of perma blasting. I know you can cruise for fuck all and I would assume a cruise dose = natty levels so they should be comparable. Or are you one of those cruise on 300mg a week guys?
Robert Sanchez
thoughts on frontloading deca?
Austin Phillips
If you want deca to kick in fast why not just take NPP you fucking brainlet? Same thing but you feel it in a week.
Jayden Turner
why are so many steroid users drug addicts
is it just the needle thing or what? my gfs dad did heroin and steroids as well.
Ayden Allen
I don't want to pin ED/EOD for the whole cycle, all I'd have to do is pin 3ccs in one go and be at max saturation, then I could pin twice a week for the next four months
Isaiah Flores
First blast
Bench went from 170 to 200 3x5 in 8 weeks. Still going. Is this good progress?
Thomas Murphy
>I don't want to pin ED/EOD
never gonna make it
Noah Phillips
Lower barrier of entry. A current drug user wouldn't have problems doing steroids because they're already knee deep.
Cameron Jackson
Depends on the circles you start in. If someone is starting as a total fitness nut doing everything to make gains then they'd be unlikely to be in the GHB/coke circles that some bodybuilders are in
Xavier Morris
go to lush and buy her some nice smelling things, then get something soft, scarf/fancy blanket
Jackson Morris
the betamus optimus has arrived
Luke Morales
I got told today that another girl at my work said that she would sleep with me. That makes 3 potential partners.
Too bad 3D is trash.
Jack Parker
it was real in my mind
Jacob Ward
Ever since I started my cycle I look a bit pale and a bit sick. Didn't think it was that bad until someone randomly asked me if I was sick, or just hadn't slept.
What do?
Tyler Gonzalez
Usually it's the opposite for me. My blood pressure skyrockets whenever I take orals and have a very "red" look which makes me look tan.
Ryan Baker
Nano, Trenboy, PC, triangle, apoc, jerry, will and SwoleM@ster can back me up. Desu.
Blake Rodriguez
Cool input man, considering they dont train before, have never trained and dont train afterward. Got two (you)'s out of your super tough comment though, well done.
Benjamin Taylor
roid rage lmao
Bentley Reyes
t. manlet with shit lifts and worse personal hygiene.
obviously. you're like all the other steroid using cowards. kys faggot bitch retard.
Brody Murphy
I'm afraid he's not telling lies. 3rd girl is ugly tho.
Ethan Foster
She's not THAT bad. Prettier IRL.
Chase Sanchez
When did you noticed improved sleep from mk 677? I am taking it since Wednesday but no improvements yet
For you
Jonathan Ramirez
Sleep didnt really kick in until the mk had some time to build up. Solid week, maybe 2.
Easton Adams
autistic ass collage
Thomas Diaz
Reminder lads, be careful drinking grapefruit juice to lower BP if taking meds, can interact with all sorts including SSRI's, Tamoxifen, aspirin and Cholesterol drugs.
Jack Brown
I hope this webm is something like how I die in my late 20's.
I'd smash her. Good legs and ass. She looks like she could take some abuse as well.
Weird, mk677 sleep was almost instant for me. How many mg are you taking?
Carter Hughes
18 years old. 2 years lifting with intermediate stats. Anything wrong with a 16 week 500mg/weekly with proper PCT? Opinions on HCG 4 weeks before PCT?
Isaiah Martinez
Cucksader caught bragging about mediocre over the hill women yet AGAIN
David Powell
wait till 20 at least. Don't rob yourself of height gains by closing growth plates. At 18 gains should be mad anyway
William Johnson
The other 2 are decent. His mothering milf looks really good.
Juan Lopez
I'm 6'1. Height is no problem. Any other reasons not to go through with this?
Luke Ross
>ANOTHER woman who has already hit the wall
Attracting older 30+ women isn't anything to brag about. They fucked Chad their entire youth and now want a soft mommas boy like cucksader.
Aiden Wright
Stats and weight?
Benjamin Baker
Honestly nah as long you don't do something unhealthy. A lot of the stigma around young people roiding is idiots using too much, or oral only cycles, or no ancillaries to keep health in check. If you do everything right you'll be the biggest dude in your friend group. If you don't you'll be the most acne covered, bald and milky tittied dude in your friend group
Get bloods to check Test levels If high don't bother, ride the natty gain train until 20's If average-low then go for it brah. Keep expectations low for first cycle, PCT will make you feel cheated. I wouldnt bother with HCG unless you BnC for a while and want those boys back online quicker, 1 cycle with PCT should be fine without
Brandon Gomez
>diddly only 25 lbs higher than squat
Gabriel Cox
shit i take it back 165lbs? You better be single digit bf brah
Brayden Powell
Those aren't intermediate. Come back in a few years. Get your diet in check, do some growing up.
Austin Lopez
I see, if it doesn't work then i will drop deca. Insomnia is killing me hard
Probably switch to test + dbol
20mg
You seem jelly.
Let the man have his pleasure. I don't want him dead yet
Jaxon Smith
I neglect my DL
I have a relatively small frame for my height. I see no reason not to follow a simple cycle and reach close to my natty limit.
Christopher Sanders
What is a good compound for mass if you're already on test beside deca and tren?
Noah Fisher
Frame is an excuse brah. Lift more, eat more, come back in a year Currently you won't reach even your natty limit on gear with your current attitude
Angel Bennett
More test, become the beta you're destined to be Go over 1G masT, you know you want to
Angel Thompson
EQ
Adrian Foster
Run EQ and NPP
Noah Johnson
Is NPP even a good idea if he's already on deca? I mean its all just nandrolone
Wyatt Hall
I think you should increase your mk677 dosage.
Frame isn't a fucking excuse. If it was, I'd still be a lightweight rower instead of 115kg of squat bench and deadlift. Pull your head in, adjust your attitude and apply yourself naturally for a few years, then after that, maybe come back. Oh, and for measure, I made it to 100kg/14%bf natty at the same height as you. You've got 60lbs to go, start eating.
Adrian Mitchell
he's not on deca he's scared of deca and tren because they make him an even more insecure mental beta than he already is. probably thinks of black cocks in his gf nonstop.