What's the real answer bros. There's an answer for everything. How do you scientifically overcome depression...

Well, why do you think you're depressed?

Who's the chick?

When I got depressed to the point where I wanted to kms I just thought that there had to be a way out considering I had been happy before. I had been content with life so I could achieve that again, I still have the same biological mumbo jumbo inside me. So I started actively fighting depression and at some point it just didn't exist anymore. Now I feel more at peace with myself than ever before

Depression is an imbalance in your dopamergic pathways. Try pic related.

>actively fighting depression
how?

Rachel cook

Exterior suffering is the answer to interior suffering

I was depressed for years since I was a kid and am only recently improving. The fog is always there but lifting has helped. So has fasting at least 3 times a week and limiting sugar.

>depressed
>cry all the time
>start lifting
>depression is replaced with irrational rage
>now I scream all the time

I guess it kind of worked

>depressing websites like Veeky Forums
The truth hurts

retract your scapula and weaponize the void (read some philosophy, whatever catch your attention first)

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Going to a real mental health professional and not spending so much time with a shitty online community would be a great start.

boy oh boy, hope you don't end up a wreck if she leaves you

Find purpose

I got out of it. Pic related.

Accepting that existence is defined by tragedy and suffering, and transcending that is how I did it.

Pick up your cross and carry it. Become Sisyphus and happily move your stone.

People figured this out thousands of years ago but just didn't know how to express it.

Do you also have that "why am I feeling so good"-starterpack. I believe that's the real way out of depression.

>retract your scapula and weaponize the void
Beautiful

>IF
>Paleo
>24-72 hour fasts

The secret is that everyone everywhere wants to kill themselves all the time. Some people are just better at distracting themselves from that than others. Having money, free time, and friends, and goals are some key distractions. This is why being poor and/or having a shitty or sheltered home life fucks young people up.
>also why women fuck men who make them feel (good)

I gotcha, bro. Best to do all of them, but I was surprised how much sensible bedtime alone helped me.

>Literally do all of these
>Still depressed
Am I doomed

just figure out how youre unhappy with your life

The obvious ones are work out, eat better, drugs, etc. But one that ive found really help is get out in the sunlight more. It helps, idk how.

Take control of your life.

For me it was as simple as getting out of school and away from my controlling parents, which led to a better quality of life.

Everyone has different issues and problems. I think having the strength of mind to make changes to fix those problems is a huge part of overcoming them.

Like they say in Zombieland:

Don't be an hero

I had severe depression and would get some bad anxiety attacks at work where I would have to go to the bathroom. I would feel panicked and want to cry and I just overall felt shitty all the time. I was making decent money (20 an hour) but I felt trapped at my work and I hated everyone there and had no life except video games outside of it. I was also obsessed with an ex of mine that I had never actually met but I would check her social media shit everyday for like a year afterwards and this would make me sink even lower in my depression each time.

I took this as I was tired of not getting enough of out of life. So I skipped a weekend of work so I could go to a musical festival. After some car trouble and being late a couple times I got pointed out of work. I didn't really care because I was so miserable.

I ended up meeting that ex gf and realized that she was a huge cunt ant that we weren't compatible at all in person. Then I did a decent amount of traveling and met a girl that made me realize of how shitty I was letting my standards be and letting people take advantage and hurt me. All though it didn't work out I realized that there are girls that are as manipulative and shitty that would be willing to date me. I also have no reason to put up with shitty friends who give nothing back and only take.

I'm not back in school and will be done in a year and a half and I'm happier than I've ever been even though I haven't had a gf in a couple years.

Basically if you aren't happy now, drop everything. You have nothing to lose if you aren't happy, you can always earn money somewhere else.

Talk to your doctor.

Medication might help. Supplement with diet and exercise.

Mental illness can be treated similar with other illness, by a professional.

vitamin D maybe?

My life is absolutely fine
I have friends, getting girls is easy, I have enough money and travel often
I've just been a sad cunt since I was about 14

I found this video on her instagram and it made me realized that she's the kind of person that belongs in those meme thot threads
instagram.com/p/BeTp6B2F0Bc/?hl=en

then probably some chemical deficiency. You can try testing your test levels (low test can make you depressed), trying shrooms (it helped some people with depression) or some antidepressants

Gonna post this pic cause she's hot as hell

You don't

what's the apple cider vinegar for and why do I keep seeing it shilled here?

Just out of curiosity, what the fuck did you expect? That she’d be a humble, down to earth person?

>getting girls is easy

so you don't have a meaningful relationship with a girl?

Did you notice any other benefits from your microdosing other than the effects it had on your mood? Better performance in your hobbies or anything? I've just started doing it too and I think it's great

Just came on here to say I can't sleep and I've got to be up at 5am. It is now quarter past 1. Been laid here in bed for 3 hours and I can't sleep and feeling lonely. Wat do?

meditate

Yeah, first time I heard her it ruined the illusion.

You don't escape depression and it doesn't get any easier. You just live each day with it. It's one of the reasons my ex left me.
The best thing you can do is replace depression with purpose.

Not fit enough, workout more. Not making enough money, gain the knowledge or connections you need to. So long as the mind is distracted it is temporarily numbed from depression.

You can't really doing anything. I wouldn't wish that kind of suffering on anyone, but you will change how you feel eventually - as much as you don't believe it now.

thats not true, I got out of depression and plenty of other people have as well

Sure, until you do everything you can and you still are depressed. Not saying you shouldn't go out and try to reach for something greater, but it's not the answer to an unsolvable question.

No one this board has a chance... except hopefully me.

W2c those goggles? Looks like the marathon helmet.

For me;
>cut friends who fucked me over
>join gym and try to go as much as possible
>Stop watching porn and learn to control the urge to jack off
>Read more books to pass the time
>No drugs, drinks, or anything degenerate, except for coffee

My depression isn’t that bad anymore, but I won’t say it’s entirely gone either. I’ve always been made fun of for my appearance and I thought about ways to kill myself on the daily throughout highschool. Getting a sweetheart gf really saved me the most

Knowing I'll never have that

I find great comfort in that fact

Go back to effay faggot

Eat multiple vitamin D pills a day especially during winter (5k ius

Suck my large cock you basic bitch

1/3rd of people go through it at some point in their life it is most common in elderly. So I wouldn't be so sure if I were you about that.

Unironically meditation

Find a hobby outside of lifting, I started out with hiking and turned it into back packing, it's a great feeling to get away from life for a bit, get away from your worries and from all this useless materialism and be out in nature.

She's the cook.

Fake it till you make it. That’s how I did it.

How does quitting porn help against depression?

Meds and weekly therapy are the only things that worked for me. Take your meds religiously, and do exactly everything what your therapist tells you to do. If your meds aren't working, try more. My third medication I tried worked (took me a year to rotate through enough to find one that worked) and now I live a normal, satisfied life without depression and can pass for a normie.
>t. Admitted to a mental hospital three times for suicide attempts

See a doctor and get your hormone levels tested, and see a psychiatrist and get screened for psychiatric disorders. No shame in having depression or bipolar disorder. That shit strikes everyone equally.

Porn overstimulates your brain like crazy because it is so unnatural. In a natural setting where would you be able to watch any sexual activity you want whenever you want and jack off to it? It's a degenerate activity that will subconciously fuck you up whatever you think at the time. Like any positive stimulus that you are overexposed to you will eventually need more and more (or more niche) of it to get the same response. Seriously quit porn of any form. If you want to jack off use your imagination if you even jack off at all.

Humans don't live long anyway
Only fags die
Don't let em win

I was on meds for a while. It definitely helped me from being suicidal and with getting rid of my major depressive episodes but I still felt off while on them. There were some side effects and problems with sleep. I still believe I needed them to get me out of that dark place that I was in but I'm glad I'm off them now.

Eventually I turned to controlling my diet, exercising more (initially cardio which helped a lot and pumped me up), going outside for sunlight, sleeping at normal hours, using the internet less, focusing more on academics, and unironically being more religious.

So far it's working. I need to make friends though and talk to people more. But it's sort of hard when all your life you isolated yourself and never really learned how to interact with others.

actual depression is a mental disorder.
so get off the internet and get professional help.

no it isn't it was invented by jews to make young men top themselves

paranoia is a mental disorder too

Interesting share user, thanks.

L-theanin and lots of Vit D3.

You did all that? I'm my book you've made it

For how long did you microdoses? Do you still do it? I have plenty of shrooms and i know it helps but for one reason or another i never got to do it

>be me 9 months ago
>overweight and unfit 18 y/o virgin, 4/10
>Start gymming and dieting
>mediocre gains, but drop a lot of weight
>now 6/10, still slightly overweight
>start new semester of uni
>meet 7/10 qt, become friends
>tells me she wants to hang out outside of uni related stuff
>tells me she likes spending time with me
>eventually asks me to dinner because I'm too much of a beta fag to do it myself
>I'm shocked that she is interested in me at all, think she's miles out of my league
>too self conscious to make a move
>still feel disgusting and inadequate
>dinner this Saturday

Why am I like this bros. My self esteem is sub zero, I've been pushing myself harder than usual, trying to improve everything about myself but I still think of myself as a pile of shit not worthy of love.
I feel like I still have the mindset of the old me, and I can never get rid of it.

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Hi Jordan

Lifting to upregulate BDNF and reducing large surges of dopamine (music, porn, even online websites). Take things slow. Read books and other sources of mild stimulation. Also, get endorphins. I already mentioned exercise (like daily, or even many times a day). But regular sleep as well, and visceral shocks. Think about that sensation of being on a roller coaster, a cold shower. Basically anything that gets your whole CNS firing.

If you're having physical symptoms from your depression, then it's too late. Hop on prozac and hope for a shock to the system.

I have BP2 so i get really bad depression. Mitigating with Lithium has been huge. Also lots of therapy to learn good coping strategies. Really just learning to live with it and move in a direction you choose in spite of it.

Go for a hug, pull out of said hug slowly and make eye contact, then look at her lips, and back to her eyes. If she doesn't look away, work your hands up to her fucking face, pull her in and kiss her.

It's time to go to fucking Vegas ya bitch. Bet it all on red and hope you don't crap out.

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>live with depression for about a decade
>think the world's against me
>lucky enough to have great friends
>they keep reinforcing how incorrect it is to think that
>not destructive, incorrect
>every depressing belief I had was false
>friends didn't necessarily care about how harmful those beliefs were, they just cared that what I was thinking objectively wasn't true
>eventually stop thinking about what makes me happy, what's gonna get me out of this, how I'm gonna live with it, etc., and realize the most powerful beliefs I have simply aren't true
>try to dedicate my efforts towards truth rather than happiness
>find out knowing what's true is actually really difficult
>literally can't focus on my own happiness while trying to find it
>abandon all beliefs I thought I had about myself
>stop making value judgments
>try to go through life as coldly and analytically as possible
>just try to find out the truth of my life
>after a while, actually decide to look at life
>holy fuck
>realize how lucky I am to be where I am
>realize all the great things in my life
>realize how much I love my friends for sticking by me and helping me
I'm gonna try to do the same thing my friends did, OP
Not only was I objectively wrong when I was depressed, I was also really selfish
My focus was almost entirely on me, what others thought of me, etc.
In reality almost no one cared, and I wasn't as special as I thought I was
Ironic, considering I thought I was a piece of shit
But here's my advice:
>no one cares about you
>not even enough to hate you
>or even think you're weird
>that's something you EARN
>you need to MAKE people care about you
>this is actually hard, so you need to put in some effort
>being genuinely kind is a good start, this requires WORK
>sincerely, and in truth, compliment them on their dress, hairstyle, etc.
seriously. caring about the truth and other people is by far the best cure for depression

Thank You for this post

You don't. Either it kills you, or you adapt to it.

When i realized my whole life i've been compared, judged, critiqued, beaten, ridiculed, betrayed and mislead, i started slowly spiraling into a spiritual void. I i''m fairly sure i didn't even ask this "gift of life" to begin with.

I was diagnosed with a severe depression some years later, in 2012 and everything came crashing down. I didn't have strenght to keep my job, i lost my financial credibility, had to sell my apt, friends disappeared, i drifted away from my relatives and finally lost my faith and left church.

I almost managed to suicide, but someone called feds on me, and they dragged me to "set me on the right path again".

Years later i half-accidentally got to school and became an electrician. That lead me back to regular blue-collar life i live now.

But nothing has changed. People are still complete assholes, retards and simpletons, who only chase their own desires, giving single fucks about anyone else. Everyone still gets on my nerves and things don't go my way as often as i'd like them to.

But now. Now i don't have debt or dependecies, i don't feel obliged to follow arbitrary rules of religion, i can do whatever i want without asking my better half's approval and i don't have to take responsibility of maintaining an acceptable status in social media.

I'm not sure if i adapted, or killed "myself".

And what happens when you find that girl and she doesn't feel the same way about you?

This is bullshit most of the time. It’s very rare for someone to have everything going right in their lives and still be depressed. If that’s OP’s situation than fair enough.

But, OP, if you don’t have at least two of the following:
- social life
- romantic life
- career prospects
- good family relationships
- a routine
- not suffering any sudden bereavements or drastic life changes like moving house or a new job

Then the reason you’re depressed isn’t your fuckin pathways, it’s your life. And the only solution is to clean it up.

Just keep moving forward brother

For me, the biggest hurdle for living with depression was acceptance. Acceptance that:

>depression will hit, even when life is going good

Once I realized quick fixes to sadness were counter-intuitive (drinking, partying, drugs, porn/fapping, etc.), I was able to focus on trimming the fat and noise from my life. I was able to identify the trivial things in life, like having lots of friends or looking good. When you break those things down to what they actually are, which is nonsense, then they suddenly no longer cause anxiety. When I'm able to mute the noise, I discover the things that have actual meaning to me.

Self-gratification, for example, is something I only recently found great pleasure in achieving. Being able to accomplish a goal or feat without sharing it with the world is something I find inherently special. I deactivated most of my social media accounts with the idea that what I do no longer needs validation from others. I find more joy living life with what's right in front of me, rather than stagnate through my phone.

Working out has helped greatly. Lifting builds strength, discipline, focus, and determination, all traits that bleed over into other aspects of life. Plus the actual physical chemistry of exercise improves mood as well. I personally recommending extending your workouts to the outside world as well - hiking in nature, for example, has done wonders for my psyche.

It's probably been said already, but unlocking lone wolf/hermit mode is can be very beneficial. Teaching myself to not rely on others and to figure things out myself has been rewarding. I haven't cut myself off from the world, but I've fixed the imbalance that was previously caused by the over-reliance of others. "If you want something done right, do it yourself", is something I say to myself often.

There's a whole lot more to say, like obviously end bad habits like smoking/drinking/eating like shit or getting inadequate sleep. Thinking out loud helps too.

She looks like my ex

no one gets "out"
its an endless fight
if you are lucky you die and get out of the cycle

guess we're all gonna make it then

Old myth that never went away.

It works in stages, you'll beat a form of depression and learn how to deal with that onset version, then later you'll find a new stage more difficult to deal with, if you have grown as a person you should come out on top eventually. this will continue until you get to a point depression kicks in and you have become stagnant or have nothing left to give (old age, health issues etc) and then its time to go into the shed