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Why can't you fucks just ACCEPT that soy is good for you. Let's go over it again.
>hbomberguy debunks soy myth
>hbomberguy has test levels in the 70th+ percentile
>hbomberguy literally serves shit on a plate to PJW multiple times and makes him eat it
>hmbomberguy trys the soy diet for 30 days and his test levels WENT UP
Get fucked you faggots. Soy is god-tier.
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How will Veeky Forums ever recover? Go suck onionman's dick because he's wrong.
Nice samefag. Shill your soy somewhere else please
What's samefagging? I'm new here.
>>hbomberguy has test levels in the 70th+ percentile
His free t's probably low as fuck and his estradiol skyhigh
Soy is a shit food, but this guy goes to such measures to defend it.
This. Why is he so gung ho about being a soy boy?
asians have higher test tan whites but they are way less masculine desu
I'm beginning to think just looking at hormonal levels in the blood doesn't mean shit, what means shit is androgenic activity in the body which can only be measured in a isolated tissue.
what an english face
I don't know, but it's weird how he jus keeps defending it when most soy products are filled with organic and synthetic pesticides that are carcinogenic, not to mention isoflavones that do cause issues on some people's thyroid and downregulate muscle growth since soy's isoflavones downregulate muscle satellite cell proliferation.
because you faggots will believe anything. Without any evidence.
>soy isn't bad
Alright, but why is it GOOD? It just sounds like a cheap way to stay at your mediocre physique.
>hbomberguy has test levels in the 70th+ percentile
maybe if you include women
>hbomberguy has test levels in the 70th+ percentile
Was there even any blood tests involved?
But afaik he doesn't say thats special good or better than other stuff.
please, PLEASE don't conflate Veeky Forums with paul joseph watson. the reason soyboy ever gained ground here is because it's a fun alliterate phrase that was so obviously retarded, yet still managed to upset a small handful of people.
He's got partisan influence.
He proved he's more alpha than half of Veeky Forums
what exactly should I ask if I want to know my REAL testosterone levels?
want to know how they are
although...maybe its constant ironic use eventually attracted enough credulous brainlets that there really are a majority of people here who think occasionally consuming milk alternatives will give them breasts, unless they can eat enough root vegetables to offset it. holy shit wait that's what happened with stormfags and edgy kids saying nigger all the time
that much is obvious from the way he goes out of his way to try and humiliate PJW
the fact that health and fitness information now has a political slant to it makes me fucking sick
is this guy going to start making videos "debunking" ZMA supps now?
Don't act like you didn't believe the rat study faggot lol
Yeah.
High test in absence of overt masculine traits tends to mean that your body isn't actually using the test for anything and it's just a waste by product that the body only occasionally uses for something.
Boys born to vegan parents tend to have mental growth problems, slower growth, smaller bodies and smaller less functional genitals then omnivore children born to omnivore mothers.
This is on record.
sauce?
There is no sauce
Literally who?
Imagine being so upset about a slang derogatory phrase you produce lengthy videos trying to prove it isnt scientifically correct smdh. I mean posercons like pjw are really low hanging fruit .ffs this hbg guy sounds like such an annoying faggot jeez couldnt make it past 1 minute
>Why is he so gung ho about being a soy boy?
because unironically you niggers started soyposting so hard you convinced everyone that soy actually lowers T.
This guy is so unfunnily smug even though he's right I still want to hammer his smug fucking face in a pile of pink mush
>he doesn't know soyboy supreme
Well being smug is just a privilege of being right, also Paul is a fucking idiot Sao he deserves no sympathy
this
why does he look like a faggot then????
Ad hominem but it's because he's British and most Brits are ugly
How disgusting.
i didnt say ugly i said he looks like a faggot
the absolute state of Veeky Forums
I'm buying several crates of soylent as we speak for those sweet test gains
nothin personell onionfags
you may take one of our layers but youll need more than that to get to our onionbro core
Everyone on either side of this cuckold argument look like thinning betas with disgusting bodies, ever thought maybe soy wasn't the problem, but sitting on your ass all day making gay youtube videos instead on eating your vegetables and exercising.
why does he look so british
I wouldn't trust this faggot to tell me what foods won't make me into a scrawny little bitch any more than I'd trust boogie on weight loss advice or pic related to tell me smoking is A-OK
This
>dead eyes
>no jaw
>balding
A soyboy defending soy what a shock.
Soyboys aren't made they way they are through soy, soy is just a common factor in a lot of these cases.
Everyone with a brain knows that soy itself is harmless and pretty good for you, but you can't deny the correlation between it and a significant portion of castrated numales. Soylent in particular.
IMAGINE MY SHOCK
Holy fucking SHIT I hate everyone involved in this retarded slapfight
This
>soy is the only food people have to consume
Holy cope, why can't you faggots just let it go? why would you even want people consuming and limiting the supply of your precious soy who are stupid enough to fall for a meme? It's not like people are doing any innate harm to themselves by not eating soy so I'll ask again, if soy is really that healthy why is it so important for you cunts to validate that to the world and shill your shitty product everywhere, who are you trying to convince that soy is healthy, us or yourself?
kek
>retarded right winger gets BTFO by facts, science and logic
wow, i'm honestly surprised by this turn of event
it's good because it's a cheap vegan protein source with no health downside ?
Which make it better than eggs or red meat because it won't clog your arteries ?
Like do you use ur brain mate
Yeah nice try but soyboy became a meme overnight after PJW video, nu/fit/ aka dyel/fit/ aka /polfit/ wasn't ironic in the slightest when they shilled it and as always are eating their shit
>le clogs le arteries meme
You dont know what you are talking about.
t. leftwing soyboy who doesn't even lift
It's less about soy itself, and more about exposing people like Paul Joseph Watson as frauds and hypocrites.
>SOY IS GOOD FOR YOU user, BELIEVE IN THIS FAGGOT THAT LOOKS LIKE A GIRL
He doesn't. His conclusion was basically "Yup, soy products sure are things you can eat just fine"
He attributes the weight loss and improved nutrition more to the fact that going on the diet made him pay more attention to labels and what's actually in food than anything regarding the soy products themselves.
Literally who
>STEP RIGHT UP, LADIES AND GENTS!
>EFFEMINATE NOODLE-ARMED """""MAN""""" WITH NO SECONDARY SEX CHARACTERISTICS MAY HOLD THE SECRET TO ULTIMATE MASCULINITY
imagine actually looking like this
balding, terrible hair, awful face, theres people in comas with better bodies. fucking hell
"I dont need to look good, Ive got me brain" except he isn't all that smart either, most of his arguments are low level strawman nonsense
jesus christ that "haircut"
genetic weakling is a lefty socialist "intellectual" who wants to change the system
what woman wouldn't want these prime chad genes
Soy is a meme, but the guy looks like the epitome of low testosterone.
He looks like a big baby.
How can you take advice from someone who looks broken?
Is that Chris Nolan's twin?
I don't even like PJW but this little Doctor Who watching faggot is insufferable. I live in a British University town and these types of losers are everywhere. You crack a joke in a pub and they start screaming "HOLD ON YOU ARE SAYING THAT IRONICALLY ARENT YOU"
Everything they say is sarcastic and they have no real personality or original opinions about anything.
u jealous of my gains user?
Soy is decent protein and won't affect your test levels to any noticeable degree unless it's literally all you eat
You faggots need to stop stressing over ~10ng/DL it really doesn't make that much difference as you will discover when you get bored of making zero gains and finally jump on the /fraud/ train (anyone who doesn't quit does eventually)
hes a snail
>Soy is decent protein and won't affect your test levels to any noticeable degree unless it's literally all you eat
>unless it's literally all you eat
What do you mean, soy affects test levels after all then?
Also how much is too much? Do some people handle it better than others?
Are there genetic mutations that make it even more of an issue?
Does different gut bacteria diversity changes soy's isoflavone metabolism and how it impacts human hormonal balance?
It appears that no one can accurately answer these questions, and as such soy is still a food of concern.
There's a case or two of soy induced gyno but I think the guy involved was necking a quart of soy milk every day
And that's more to do with the phytoestrogen effect than anything
The fact is you need a certain level of eostrogen to maintain your joints, sex drive, cholesterol etc which is why sailing in so on cycle is a pain in the arse
As long as you don't push your eostrogenic activity outside an acceptable range you'll be fine, and occasionally eating tofu will not do this
>s-soy is f-f-f-fine guyssss. P-please don't come to Britain I'm s-s-scared
Is it better to go to the gym every day or utterly destroy yourself every other day and have a day off
>test levels in the 70th+ percentile
Of what, soyboys or women?
A quart of soy milk is like 120g of tofu in isoflavone concentration.
120g of tofu has like 10g of soy protein.
>The fact is you need a certain level of eostrogen to maintain your joints, sex drive, cholesterol etc which is why sailing in so on cycle is a pain in the arse
For sure, even some ammount of estrogen is required to have proper libido and erections, but I would say estrogen dominance is more of an issue in males today than having too much testosterone and too little estrogen.
Concerning the gyno cases you referenced, I heard about them, only seen one study concerning one case of a man drinking like 3 liters of soy milk a day and having a ridiculous ammount of estradiol in the blood and literal gynecomastia, which reverted when soy consumption was eliminated.
Not sure if there are more. But even if 3 liters of soy milk is way more than what anyone consumes, if it is enough to cause literal gyno and hormonal imbalance in human male adults then I would say even a smaller portion(1 liter) can cause issues depending on the individual and as such it should be avoided as much as possible.
Yes that skinnyfat faggot certainly looks like the perfect example that soy doesn't turn you into a skinnyfat faggot.
The impact on hormones on regular soy consumption is probably not noticable. I'm talking using soy sauce in your dishes and having tofu every now and then. Contarary to popular belief, Asians don't have lower tests (small dicks are just a genetic side effect on sexual selection of women that look like children). Butter, milk and cheese contain animal estrogen that your body reacts more to than the estrogen mimicking counpounds in plants. If you're convinced dietary (phyto)estrogen lower test, the first thing you should do is stop consuming dairy.
Now if you start eating and drinking tons of novelty soy laced food, like soy milk and and McDonals 'chicken', it might be another story, but sience hasn't been able conclusively prove this (yet?).
That soyboys have lower test doesn't mean soy lowers test. If you are a low test nu-male, chances are greater that you decide on a high soy diet. So maybe low test causes high soy diets, not the other way around.
>hbomberguy
Isnt this the guy that plays video games for a living
>"i can eat soy and it doesnt affect me!"
>"eat soy if you want to look like me!!*cough*"
soy mostly affects you when you are growing up and makes kids weak which is surely his case and why he's so obsessed with defending it
What's wrong with his neck?
Ok but is wheat bad
the way i see it if it's got the word "eat" in it then it's probably evil and subliminally getting you to consume it
>proven high t
>i-its ok h-he has low free T i g-guess haha
Ultimate strawman right here
"Real" testosterone is called free testosterone
""""""""citation needed""""""""
Lol 70th percantile means 70% of the population has more test than him. Hes in the bottom 30%.
He's a dummy ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Paul is baiting views form /pol/tards so he acts as retarded as they do and says what they want to hear.
soy is a meme.
hbomber is the ultimate cuck
Funny thing is (and this was a surprise to him, too), he apparently has higher than average testosterone. Unfortunately for him, it manifests in his receding hairline.
What a soyboy
Hey guys look at all these citations that I found that contradict your point of view.
This is why I don't believe anyone that doesn't have direct experience with something and only lists studies. Far as I know most bodybuilders eat meat and veggies, soy not so much.
man i love this guy so much (no homo)
He hasn't released his current T count he mentioned what it was vaguely a few years ago
imagine being so triggered by the soyboy meme you make a video debunking it instead of laughing about it and continuing to do what you want
what a soyboy
Soyboy is a very successful insult unlike some retards in this site like to believe.
>dumbass vegan detected
this motherfucker cant even hold his head up straight. is this a side effect of too much soy?