Is this achievable natty?

nice greentext you retard

aretheyonsteroids.com/did-zac-efron-take-steroids-for-baywatch/

More like "he quit training and dieting like a maniac because they finished shooting the movie"

Never underestimate what a professional trainer/nutritionist, unlimited money for food, and all the time in the world to train can do for you aesthetic-wise.

not working on the right muscles
go on a bulk and work more on chest and posture

Are you that guy preaching about how Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson is totally natty and it's a testament to how great natty people are?

i could agree with you. but steroids aren't something that's uncommon in Hollywood. Like you say, they have nutrisionist, doctors and so on

This. You’ll have the build but a gut

i was flexing a little there though

but, you do thing that i need to work more on the chest? if so what part, upper, middle lower... working on making it wider..?

im basically the biggest in my gym, being 95-100 kg and 187cm

this was after 4 mothns,, but the first three i did a lot of cardio... cause i had some fat on the lowe handles region...

thnx for the input,

though i might open a new thread asking for advice.

True, he could have used something as well. No one knows but him I guess

holy lmao kys

Dont worry, you're doing fine. Honestly read the Veeky Forums wiki and choose a weightlifting program