Haha you won't sleep again user!

>haha you won't sleep again user!
>can't go to the gym if you're a father!
>no free time anymore!
>always tired and stressed!
>so exhausting!
>say goodbye to good food!
>can't get anything done!
>so much stress all the time!
>i-it's the b-b-best decision i've made, h-hehe

Is the modern fatherhood meme the biggest gain killer out there?

I mean any sort of gain. Gym gain killer, social gain killer, career gain killer.

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I work nights at home, and my wife can deal with the kids during the day while I'm sleeping / lifting.
I think I'll do fine.

The trick is to selectively marry a woman who actually wants kids.

Fatherhood is only a 'drain' on your life if you are a literal manchild. Grow the fuck up.

How are you feeling about having to share her?

>Fatherhood is only a 'drain' on your life if you are a literal manchild.
t. guy who has probably never even been in a serious relationship

Wat?
She's at home every night and even accompanies me in my office while I work sometimes

Sad to hear you don't even know her daytime boyfriend's name.

No, societies take on giving everything up for the kid parenting is wrong. Be a father your kid looks up to, not some faggot most of us had to grow up with.

Modern fatherhood implies this notion though.

The good thing about traditional gender roles is that there was at least a division of labor that made things easier to manage. Now you're both expected to share the double burden of work + raising the kid, and if you don't society hates you (and that divorce will be pricey)

>he thinks he can make babies with someone and not make it the focus of his life
Man-child detected.
How immature and irresponsible.
No wonder so many kids these days are ill-behaved and get in trouble all the time.
>absentee father
what a loser

>Is the modern fatherhood meme the biggest gain killer out there?
only if the kid isn't white.

None having a kid makes you a instant failure in life

W-what are you talking about, user?

Being a dad is great! You're not really happy until you're sleeping 3 hours a day and having no money or time for yourself. It's GREAT!

You're going to join us, right? Right? Your freedom and happiness bothers us, please join us

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Having lots of healthy kids is objectively the meaning of life for all animals.
Suck it up, faggot.
Might not be fun raising a baby, but if you don't you're weak and unfit in the way that matters most, the Darwinian sense

>Having lots of healthy kids is objectively the meaning of life for all animals.
While I applaud you for posting the truth that humans are just animals, I do want to slap your shit for implying that everyone should run out and make a bunch of kids. Are you a Dominionist or something?

Yes goy, being indulgent and happy is the meaning of life! Hard tasks aren’t as rewarding as smoking weed and fucking roasties! Yes... yes...

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Nope, you can still make it
32 years old, father of 3
Married 10 years
Work full time at my dream job, day trade stocks for extra money
Gym 5 out of 7 days, compete in various strength sports
Spend tons of time with my kids
Enjoy sailing when warm, camping and hunting in colder months
Have time to do all this, if I can so can anyone else, it's about priorities, haven't had cable in 10 years, don't watch TV, don't play Vidya, only waste time on the internet when it's slow at work or other downtime. I also read 2-4 books per month, people are lazy unmotivated and don't set priorities correctly, it's not a lack of time, but poorly used time.

The Jew has gone too far this time

You wish you were in full-time single dad mode.

My gym (Golds) has a 2hr daily max of daycare. That's 2hrs to myself every single day and I use every last bit of it.

>Won't sleep again
Kids sleep 10+ hours per night. I sleep 8-9.
>Can't go to the gym if you're a father
I have my kid full-time and go to the gym more than I ever did without him.
>No free time anymore
Free time to do what, exactly? Get a better job so that you can afford sitters and daycare.
>Always tired and stressed
No
>Say goodbye to good food
Are you even trying? How does having a child disqualify you from eating well? I meal-prep for myself while cutting and cook for him every day. On a bulk, we eat like kings.
>can't get anything done.
Get a better job
>So much stress all the time
No
>it's the best decision I ever made
Should have put my dick in a better chick since having a kid eliminates a large portion of the dating pool but I have face, frame and body so no real complaints about fatherhood

If kids are killing your gains, social life or career, you're just a loser making excuses for your shortcomings.

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Im a father and get to the gym 5 times a week.
Git gud

>Might not be fun raising a baby, but if you don't you're weak and unfit in the way that matters most, the Darwinian sense
Not really, the Darwinian sense may apply to other humans but it will not apply to me, simply because I decide for it not to. It has no power over me. Ironically, giving power to some abstract "sense" is what would make me weak and unfit. I'd consider myself weak if I let abstract notions, merely metaphors to describe reality, move me around as a puppet. Especially since those metaphors can't exist outside my percepction, because my perception is the only thing I experience and the only thing that exists.

This. Im a single father (joint custody with ex). You can either wallow in self pity òver it being hard work, or embrace being a man and fucking thrive.
Is it hard? Yes, but life is supposed to be hard. Life being too easy is why there are so many soybois today

mirin life, would love something like that but i dont have the work ethic to make it happen desu

You think you're stronger than cleetus and his 7 kids, but your line ends with you, your genetic code is dead and gone forever; cleetus on the other hand is eternal, he left a legacy and will never be truly forgotten.

I pray to god your not a woman, because at 35 you won’t be able to change your mind.

>but your line ends with you, your genetic code is dead and gone forever; cleetus on the other hand is eternal, he left a legacy and will never be truly forgotten.
Everything ends with me, or more accurately, this line ends with me and the next one starts with me. Cleetus doesn't even exist unless I will him to exist.

Lol cool. Sorry but you must be 18 to post here.

>poorly used time
this kills the user

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I am older than the universe itself, don't worry, I'm allowed to post.

its even worse at the start

>think that I am not lifting for a girl
>but apparently my biology is
>because as soon as a girl reliably shows me interest over time it is as if I lose my desire to compete
>the thoughts which lead me to concentrate properly on the technique, and sets, and methods now go towards grill
>as a results the lifts are stalling

testosterone also drops once you fall in love (a crush). SOME desire to be aggressive and compete also goes away. I reckon that it has cost me 30% of my progress. I bet that children will have an even worse effect wont they lol?

Hopefully I can get a gf and leave Veeky Forums before I’m that old.

lmao this post perfectly encapsulates the dadcuck's mentality:

>is my life shit? yeah! but so what? life is meant to be shit!

They tell themselves that the hardships and misery they face is some inherent component of life, instead of the results of the bad choices they've made because they were pressured into it.

Keep it up, buddy. Tell yourself you're doing a real man's hard work as long as that keeps that rope away from your neck.

/thread
>Older brother is father of 2. Always at home for family dinner and to spend time with kids and wife in the evenings after work. Weekends are family outings in the morning/afternoon and evenings with friends. Sometimes lunch with friends. Yet he still has time to lift and have a social life, travel and hobbies.

Sounds like you have failed at life.

>Do you work at Wendy’s?
All joking aside, I look up to people like you, your 20s must have been utter hell

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Even if they were, they'll pay off when he's older and those family gains start mattering more.
When you're old and all your friends are dead or senile it's good to have kids to visit and care for you

In a Darwinian sense you're programmed to dump your load and leave, you're not programmed to stay in the house with your loads for two decades as you work 9 to 5 in an office, you retard,

Hard and shit are different things. You clearly have a lot of growing up to do.

Earn enough to be a breadwinner and marry a SAHM type like I did. It's doable.

Not necessarily true.
A guy who has 10 kids with a loving wife will have healthier and fitter kids than a guy who leaves 10 single mothers usually.
Course the guy who visits the sperm bank to make a deposit every week gets the best of both worlds

And he gets waking-around money for the trouble.

You have 2 options.

"Dad bod"

"Thicc mode"

Choose wisely, what type of example & rolemodel do you want to be?

>You clearly have a lot of growing up to do.
Yeah yeah yeah, all the happy independent people around you are just in a "journey" towards you. You're the model of happiness, they just have some growing up to do.

I have
>wife
>kid
>homegym
>4 bedroom cabin
>no debts

Having a kid felt like the natural thing to do for both me and my wife. I have managed to workout even more after we had our daughter, because I had to plan my time much more. And my wife supports it because she works out as well.

Yes, user, I am. Go roid, do hard drugs and bang tinder sluts, and die in a sauna. No one will care.

>you go live your life and do the things I wish I were doing, you immature child

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Yeah, but looks like he did it wrong. Doesn't mean that'll happen for everyone.

>Not going for Sig Curtis mode
You’re not going to make it

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this actually makes me want to kill myself, why?

Because he let himself totally go.

>mfw I’m almost 200 lbs and I’m way leaner

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>that asian kid
OH NO NO NO NO

Dunno.
A year of dieting and lifting and he'd probably be back to where he was.

Why? Are you the guy in pic related?

It just happens to, you know, 90% of dads.

And of course you have the studies showing less testosterone with long-term relationships and fatherhood, the lack of time, energy and money which will directly kill your gains.

But hey, 35-year olds here all seem to manage that and a life full of achievement, despite the fact that they still browse Veeky Forums (as if they were full of shit and trying to persuade young people to commit the same mistakes) so of course you will to.

no it's just that his body resembles a loaf of bread, he has that faggoty open mouth smile, the craft beer, the asian kid. it all just angers me for some reason

I laughed at this. I admit.

Shit man, old people on Veeky Forums are just anons who've been here 10 years.
.t turning 28 this year and been here for 11 years or so

>reddit cuck gives birth to el aberacion genetica
every time

It’s almost like he became a soyboy due to him being a lazy sack of shit

if you prioritize lifting and sleep over your son, you're not ready to be a father.

You may be right about me--time will tell. But I don't think I'll be able to blame my eventual decline on my family. I'd have declined anyway even if I lived the solo life.

Because you're being told by the new generation of meme ideologues that the guy on the left is a sad, empty manchild, and the guy on the right is a strong example of manhood, and your good sense is trying to tell you the truth.

>not teaching your son to lift
>not being a strong example
Man you are a fucking faggot

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It's funny how I considered racemixing 100% normal and didn't even bate an eye about it before I started coming to this place.Now looking at the obviously asian-white mix kid really pisses me off for some reason. I'm not even white, it just really ticks me off.

>the 18, 19, 20 year old fake neo-nazis on Veeky Forums who do literally everything in their lives in order to appeal to women criticizing men who are married with children

why is this board so fucking pathetic

Also: 145 -> 180 in four years? That kind of weight gain happens to 90%? Not sure about that. I have gained a little under 10 pounds at 175.

Sorry to break it to you buddy, but the neo-Nazis are on your side of the argument. They're all about the evolutionary missions and how the Jew is trying to stop white men from being fathers.

Yeah, that's how racism works.

Whats wrong with being a National Socialist you fucking commie?

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I wonder who is behind the posts shilling degenerate lifestyle.

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FFS, does every thread have to turn into /pol/ nonsense?

How do I make myself not racist again?

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Marriage and kids nowadays are such a bad deal for the man that you need conspiracy theories to justify it and grand racial narratives to cloud your judgement.

Because leftist faggots from reddit like have to make everything political, we just want to talk about fatherhood and gains, and this faggot starts calling everyone a Neo-Nazi

Hey, marriage is still about choosing a woman wisely and always has been. What's new here?

You don’t, I don’t care about any other race besides my own, it’s natural

>daily threads on Veeky Forums talking about how "right wing is the fit man's choice" and every person gets insulted as a "numale soyboy libcuck"
>someone says it to you
>REEEEEEE LEFTIST FAGGOT REEEEEEEE

Tell that to the Divorce courts

Those soyboy numale cucks are the cancer that is turning the West into Rome 2.22

Marry a black girl, goy :∩)

whats new is that modern men are desperate idiots who wife up the first bitch who shows them her vag.
we need to be MORE discerning in modern times, and most men settle for anything.

This. I’ll be screening a lot of women for a while

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This.

not that guy but dont be that rude man, maybe the girl is loyal

So here's the reason I don't want to have kids: I'm scared that I don't have time for myself anymore. My goal in life is to improve myself. Not only by staying /fit, but also by traveling around the world, meeting new people, learning new languages and all that stuff. And while I see the point that a child also makes you more mature and responsible the thought that I only live for my child from the day of its birth is actually scary.

its funny because youre are doing the exact same thing just with the right picture
>reject the new generation meme ideology and take our ideology instead
wow truly genius mate

Waaaahhh I can’t continue my hedonistic lifestyle and I actually have to raise a child waaaahhh

Then you're not ready (yet?) to have kids.

Oh no, some anons on Mongolian Water Weaving forum might look down on me for not having kids! I'm so worried!

Only for people who cannot plan. People said the same about college and they said the same about working fulltime but I never had any trouble.

Teenagers think they are fucking smart and everyone around them is retarded. It was always like this, now they are just able to drop their ebin redpills on the internet. 90% of tumblr and /pol/ are dipshit teenagers who will grow it out eventually

the true answer: stop browsing /pol.

You're right goy, fatherhood is too hard! Just stay inside and watch hentai! Leave procreating to the brown people, they are much better than you anyway!

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>that guy who married and become a cuck singlefather and browses /fit

lmao, once your little pricks grow up they will hate you, nobody loves his fathers at all, only use them for money, like 99% here on /fit use their parents for home and food, they dont even want it, look it up, if you were raised by a single mom or a single dad there is a moment on your life you hated him/her

also

>having kids at 2018

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>Only for people who cannot plan.
a.k.a Brainlets
a.k.a Americans
this is why your society is falling apart
good on you user, you were actually born with a brain

You don’t you faggot. Every other race is allowed to have in group preferences but how dare white people have any in group preferences those racist white trump supporters

Sure there is a lot of obstacles, but i guarantee you will have 1 hour every second day for the gym. You just need to push through the motivation.