Alcohol

Is drinking in general a gains goblin or are there any high test types of alcohol?

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Drinking alcohol is pretty much the worst thing if you care about fitness.
That being said, nothing wrong with having a few glasses of wine with a chick on the weekend

Alcohol should be avoided at all costs. When you feel the urge to have a drink, go out for a walk or do some stretching or something. The feeling will be better and a positive outcome for your body.

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bottle of whisky/weekend is ok

>alcohol
>not gaingoblin
>high test
>alcohol

no stupid, go do some high dose heroin, that will cure your weakness

Alcohol is shit for the protein synthesis and make test levels plummet. Beer even contains some amounts of phytoestrogens. If you have to drink I'd go for a glass of wine.

Are you retarded? Alcohol is literal poison. Pretty much any non essential functions are stopped(muscle repair and growth) until alcohol is metabolized by body.

Unfortunately iff you ever plan on having a GF and maintaining a meaningful relationship, you'll have to drink.

This is coming from someone who never drank, told my gf I didn't like drinking and whenever we'd go out with her friends to bars and parties everyone thought it was weird that I never drank (usually just had a water or smth)

When we broke up she brought up how she wanted someone who would drink and get drunk with her. So I guess having a few drinks is necessary.

this. its poison
fun fact, hangovers are alcohol withdrawal

have you sorted your room out yet?

you dated literal gaingoblin

>When we broke up she brought up how she wanted someone who would drink and get drunk with her

White women everybody

best girl

I have a few glasses of wild turkey with some splashes of water every night at the least. I'm not 8% bf but fuck it.

HAHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS THE FUTURE FOR ALL YOU 'but le alchol is bad becuz mommy told me' FAGGOTS

GET KEKED

Stop dating trash milennials. Even japan, land of corporate enforced drinking, has zero alcohol beer for non-drinkers.

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one beer is enough to cancel out a workout. ive found what works is to just take a couple sips off your friends/dates drink while explaining profusely why you cant order yourself a whole one. just take it easy on those sips, each one cancels out a set.

>one beer is enough to cancel out a workout
beer is the perfect post workout drink you faggot. I don't trust anyone that doesn't drink.

Beer, wine, rum, whiskey, and tequila are all soyboy-tier alcohol.
Real, high-test men drink vodka that's at least 80 proof.

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Virgin

Fucking awful tits

No they aren't you retard.
Hangovers come from dehydration

it can get you laid tho

Terrible for aesthetic gains, sort of neutral for strength gains, and good (in moderation) for health gains. When drinking heavily I've found I can still get stronger, but holy shit I put on fat quickly and my muscles seem to stagnate even though I'm lifting heavier. When sober I get stronger at about the same rate, but I don't put on fat and my muscles grow faster, making me look more cut. As for the health aspect, there was a large study done of people over 50 or something, and the single greatest factor affecting longevity was alcohol consumption (~2 drinks per day), had a greater effect than diet or exercise. Probably had something to do with an additional variable, like having friends to drink with, maintaining social bonds, etc. but that's still fucking nuts. So in all regards, I'd say moderate drinking is fine (2-3 drinks) just beyond that you're gonna start seeing some negative returns.

>obviously an underage faggot
basically every whiskey is at least 80 proof. Anyone that thinks vodka is superior is some 14 year old trying to act like a russian cause he thinks it's badass. You probably do a stupid russian accent all the time and call your faggot friends "comrade"

You have to be 18 to post here

Lmao @hightest alcohol.
I live in Kentucky I can't believe the amount of money that is spent trying to sell the ideal that bourbon is somehow "masculine"

Thats the curse of western civilisation. You drink because you dont want to but peer pressure is too much.
From a long time drinker who quit for good and gone through all of it, withdrawal, depression, who lost friends and social status, loneliness, my advice is that is drinking is absolute degenerate, the social aspect is retarded. Pretty much anyone who cant socialise while sober but have no problem with it while drunk is a victim of retarded culture and upbringing. You can have as much fun while sober, you can socialise etc, all those mental blocks that supposedly alcohol removes where put there in the first place by alcohol culture.
Find likeminded people and practise, say all the stupid retarded things that come to mind out loud, do it enough times and all those mental blocks, anxiety will dissapear.

Real men drink spirit you faggot

drinking a class once or twice a year is ok. But it is poison and should generally be avoided.

The amount of bro science in this thread

What an absolute bunch of boring no party seshless freaks

whiskey and red wine is where its at

> t. coping """manly alpha""" whose liquor must have "muh sweet bourbon vanilla flavor" in order to drink it

poor damage reflection

>t. faggot that probably says stupid "in soviet russia..." "jokes" all the fucking time

and yeah because drinking vodka that's basically just pure alcohol taste is so much fun

Beer is worse than soy when it comes to test.

But it tastes so good

yeah that's why strongmen lift kegs you dumb fuck

>he drinks poison to fit in
Enjoy slowly killing yourself. Or better yet, finish the job right now. Weak willed faggots.

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Alcohol is pretty much mandatory at work and social events where I'm from. People are more accepting of a drug addict getting sober than someone not wanting to drink

Only people I've ever met who say "I don't drink" are fucking losers/nerds

He probably meant 80%.
Which isn't 80 proof but more. Whiskys stop at 68%, while votka goes up ti 95%(though i wouldn't call it vodka anymore)

That's a lot of alcohol in that glass

Virgin neet.
Kys you worthless pos

>t. underage
Yeah thanks for explaining to me what 80 proof is

>tfw been getting drunk on the weekends for the past couple of months and i've been making some of the best and most consistent progress i've ever made since i was a beginner

feels fucking great not being a GDE chump who has to cope like the lightweight faggot losers ITT.

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80 proof is 40% u fgt

Your are the only faggot here. You think that people who have something to hide will become all honest, spill all their shit and form a comrade bond with you, because both of you can and drink alot? Last two men standing, there will be some sort bond between you, a mutual respect just like some two warriors, only survivors who came back victorious from a bloody battle and will now go home to see their wifes and gfs.
ahahahahah, no you fucking faggot. The 14 yo simpletons you drink with and 'trust', can be most probably trusted (not to stab you in the back) anyway because they are just to dumb for it. The real bastards will drink with dumb idiot like you just to build your trust, and when you least expect it, they will fuck you hard.

Shut up you literal faggot. Stop spouting broscience you disgusting degenerate

I very rarely actually go out and get hammered anymore (mostly sit at home and just maintain a good buzz), but going to the gym after a night of heavy drinking with a hangover would sometimes give me the best workouts ever.

That's what you get for dating a bar slut, retard. Dating girls who go clubbing is a big no no.

Someone is triggered because his drunk daddy beat him up as a kid

Whisky is most certainly not soyboy tier alcohol. Just because you are an autistic pussy who can't handle hard liquor you fucking cuck don't take it out on whiskey.
Vodka is for girls and faggots. Faggots like you

Uhh yeah I know you stupid fuck. Can you read? That fag was explaining to me that the other dumbass meant 80% instead of 80 proof. Do you need me to explain everything to you?

whiskey is the best alcohol.

fights heart attacks, mental illness, and more.

did your drunk dad hit you often?

Of course alcohol is bad for you but a couple of drinks every other weekend out isnt gonna fucking kill you , but that's the key one or two drinks.

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Same fag? Why are projecting?

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>"Chronic alcohol exposure inhibits insulin and insulin-like growth factor signaling in the liver and brain by impairing the signaling cascade at multiple levels. These alterations produced by alcohol cause severe hepatic and central nervous system insulin resistance as the cells fail to adequately transmit signals downstream through Erk/mitogen-activated protein kinase."
A bottle of red wine a day is probably enough to initiate insulin resistance of the liver, which will disturb the body's ability to effectively burn glucose, leading to more of it being stored as fat in adipocytes (because the pancreas has to release more insulin to overcome the insulin-deaf liver).

Alcohol is like glucose in a way that alcohol metabolism displaces fat metabolism. Alcohol is a source of energy but it is toxic and must be cleared out of the blood ASAP. Unlike glucose which can be burned for fuel in basically every cell in your body, alcohol can only be burned as a fuel in the liver. This means that if you're providing your liver more energy than it needs in the form of alcohol, it stores this energy as fat (tricarboxylic acid cycle). If you're really pounding shots, not all of this fat will be exported out of the liver in time, leading to alcoholic fatty liver disease.

If you drink in moderation, you won't develop a fatty liver, however the energy (i.e, calories) from the alcohol are still displacing the energy from the fat and/or glucose you could have burned instead. A calorie is a calorie, after all.

I replied because you were a dick

You can tell us user, you're safe here.

if you're drinking a bottle of red wine a day you probably have a problem

Why do so many people get literally offended when they hear "I do not drink"?

Its fucking stupid, its like someone not buying into the alcohol idiocy makes them afraid.

Don't assume you fag

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ITT incels and virgins argue over a "poison" not realizing that sitting on your ass and browsing Veeky Forums an hour a day is worse for you that a glass of nice red wine or a couple brews.

Chads drink in moderation, you faggots know nothing of life if you think that drinking in any form is degenerate. You're a disgrace to your european ancestors.

Hangovers are caused by dehydration, mainly cerebral-spinal fluid drying up, retard

Cells can also breathe by burning alcohol. Happens when you lack oxygen which happens while you work out

>browsing Veeky Forums for an hour is bad for you

I would love to hear your braindead explanation for this one.

But sure, tell us how pointlessly drinking alcohol means you "know about life".

how is it pointless?

Dry wine is fine; a small glass a day with dinner does more for stress management than the cost of the alcohol.

Hard liquor/spirits are okay in moderation for very special occasions (weddings, birthdays of family, close friends, other loved ones, major achievements).

Beer when socially appropriate to not seem like a sperg, but it's generally not great.

Sweet wine or cheap liquor should be avoided.

>"Sitting on your ass is so much worse"
That's like saying that shooting heroin is more unhealthy than black lungs so smoking is okay.

>you faggots know nothing about life if you think that drinking in any form is degenerate.
>"I-I am so much cooler than you because I drink, r-right guys?"
Then go ahead and tell us all about what we miss out on just from not drinking alcohol. That sounds like rationalizing an addition to me and I bet you can have just as much fun without.

>You're a disgrace to your european ancestors
>"But muh heritage!"

black lung isn't caused by smoking

>few glasses of wine with a chick
Oh? And how would one get to that level?

>inb4 lifting

I said in moderation, but yes sitting is fucking terrible for you and those of you who think having a few drinks a week (under 7 for men is considered safe, over that you risk alcohol abuse) are daft. Furthermore it depends on what you are drinking. IPA's are terrible for you but Guinness has loads of probiotics and nutrients that are conducive to T production. Red wine is good for you in moderation, white wine not so much. Most dark liquors are not good for you because of how quickly the alcohol will enter your bloodstream. Furthermore people with more european ancestry will always have higher alcohol tolerances because europeans used alcoholic beverages to avoid drinking contaminated water. Also your reddit spacing proves to me that you are an immature insecure beta male who is desperately trying to make others conform to his narrow minded view on what is good / bad.

try not being a weird autistic faggot

>muh ancestors
European ancestors are a disgrace, two thousand years of continental and world dominance and today we have 6.5 billion shitskin problem on our hands. They could have wiped out africa and arabs in middle ages and possibly asia too. They could have easily wiped out native americans isntead today we have fucking mexico and brazil, africa and shit in asia. Fighting, raiding, occupation of other Europeans, or just some shit like beer festivals was more important to the 'great ancestors' than the actual future for white race. Well now you have it.
You can fuck off together with the ancestors. The shit we are in today is because of people like you.

What's the point of all your gains if you can't go out and have a nice beer every once in a while?

Don't become so obsessed with fitness that you neglect things that are fun, enjoyable, and social.

Fight me faggot. Oh right you're low test and drunk sorry.

> Vodka is for girls and faggots.
No, that would be wine. Whiskey is for (soy) boys, vodka is for men.

Do you know that being extremely aggressive all the time is a sign of low T?

Wrong, somewhat?
They enslaved them. The problem came with those who let them free

I drank too much last night. Now im at work with severe anxiety fuck... im jittery and feel like im going to sperg out in front of co workers... wat do ??

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>all those mental blocks that supposedly alcohol removes where put there in the first place by alcohol culture
Thanks for this, user

>wine
>for women
You've never been drunk from good wine have you

6ft, 80kg, 10%bf, my stats are a good indication of my test levels and they are high enough.

Fucking go work out you pussy, your hangover will last all day if you just sit around

You can have all of those stats and still have low T. But thats ok, flex your dick a little more if it helps.

>vodka is for men.
No,it's not. You know how i know? Because you are so vocal about how good it is.
You are a pussy faggot and you know nothing you underage faggot.

Drink a shitton of water. A good portion of hangover symptoms arise from dehydration because your body needs a lot of water to get rid of the alcohol. It also flushes out a good portion of important minerals in the process so you should consider popping a magnesium pill.

Enslaving is not a solution to anything. If anything enslavement is a shortcut to being cucked. Because sooner or later slaves get feed up being slaves (sooner if there are jew meddling) but it always happen(jew or no jew)

What about drinking yourself to death every four months?

Holy shit, I might as well have 0.000000 test levels, but my stats are ok, my dick works just fine and I take no shit from cunts just because I dont have to.

What if you want a couple 40s on your off day

>doesn't sit at home and get hammered
drink more pussy

I can sip on whisky for hours and not get "hammered", just buzzed. For a while a 12 pack a day of light beer was routine

i'm drunk right now ayo

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>couple 40s
I dont know what that means. You can want it as much as you like but if its alcohol and you want to drink it then you simply dont drink it.

Dyed

your brain has a profound impact on your body. Worrying about drinking, being lonely, staying home all the time, missing out on the hunt and success of hooking up at parties/bars/clubs will also be a gains goblin. It might not manifest itself overnight like a hangover, but being a fucking man and having fun even if its "bad for your gains" has its benefits.

Quit reinforcing a shitty mindset to keep an extremely tiny short term amount of your "gains". Having a happy social life is going to do more for your lifting even if it means getting drunk a couple times a month. There will be plenty of time in your future where getting drunk and having fun isn't an option so no rush to achieve that.

tldr shut the fuck up and have fun

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