I'm a depressed 21 yro virgin, never had gf college student.
Before i started training, 2 years ago, I was a 19 yro virgin college student
I went from 110 to 190lbs without doing steroids but my charisma didn't go up at all.
Almost feels like I'm a joke subject at college, literally one of the strongest, yet virgin.
The sad part is no girl believes I'm a virgin anymore, the only ones that believe me are my bros.
Who could blame them really, I'm pretty huge and look good. If it were anyone else I'd call them chad and probably hate on them.
I feel even less like going to parties now, so I get drunk on vodka at home, watching dragon ball super on saturday nights, but now that is also over.
I don't have the confidence to go out, and when I muster courage I dont know what to say.
It's even harsher on me because i study medicine and girls expect me to take them to fancy places and act like an ultra refinned gentleman, which I'm not.
I'm slowly falling apart, and gym is the only thing left for me.
Legitimate call for help
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I had low confidence, so much that i was shaking in the grocery line, i couldn't speak in school either, fucked up all my oral exams. I managed to come out of it. I went to a speech course where you learnt how to speak in front of crowds, it was many different people there from a guy working in UN to students. This is what i learnt:
Speaking is something that must be practiced, we did read texts in front of each other and gave feedback to improve, and then we moved to filming it. I had to tell a story from memory three times and we improved it every time. Seeing yourself speaking is very good for charisma. Try filming yourself or stand in front of the mirror. You could also try phenibut, but use it with cauction.
Well, what sort of help are you looking for?
I can tell you that sex is nice and all but probably won't fill the void.
Instead, develop your personality. Take up some new hobbies like a martial art, playing an instrument, climbing etc. One needs that sort of refershment and progress.
You don’t have to be what anyone wants you to be. You’re very young still and have a long way to go before discovering yourself. Just keep doing what you’re doing and get into med school bro. I know several people who didn’t lost their virginity until your age or even 20. Yeah it’s funny haha we get it but you know, it’s whatever. Find yourself a nice chick to date for a little while, dip your toes in the water a bit. Most importantly, just learn to be happy independently of anyone else. Never let your happiness hang in someone else’s hands. Also post maxes, solid weight gain man.
I'm a pretty good speaker, when it's about college and professional stuff, my sole problem is with women.
I do some boxing, but that's it. I have no more spare time because of college. I know it won't fill the void, but I feel like it's a milestone for me and I can't go forward unless I have sex with a woman I like for once.
I don't really know what I'm searching for. I just wanted to be able to feel
How do you do it? I mean, find a nice chick? What sort of behavior do you engage in? How's your facial expression?
Never did maxes, but based on my regular training I guess they should go somewhere like this
Bench press~185 lbs
Squat~260 lbs
Deadlifts~260 lbs
byceps curls~110 lbs
NoFap and lower your standards. I pretty much had the same issue. Virgin until 19, while literally being the most popular kid at my high school and being blessed with a chad face (still a skinny fag). In my current stage of recovery, I fucked a 4/10 tinder girl and then soon after got a 9/10 roastie gf. Broke up with her after a year and am now trying to get back in the game. Really just need that one girl, doesn't matter how hot, to get your groove going. But trust me man, I knew your pain. Was consistently shitested by girls and shit on by bros for still being a virgin in high school. I feel i got more shit because people expected me to slay considering I was so good looking and popular. I was blessed with the perfect life and plenty of opportunities to fuck hotties in high school, but always decided to be a lazy fuck and just jerk one out and then play videogames instead. For real my dude, No Fap
stop being a whiny faggot.
>2 years for these numbers
Start applying yourself man.
I did NoFap more than once, for about 30 days each time, and my overall experience was bad.
I turn into a ferocious beast after 20 days and had to abort the nofap due to the nature of the urges
Strength is genetic after all. Couldn't care less about numbers
Dude, don't worry about women, most of them aren't worth shit, and I'm not saying this as a MGTOW, I have been on a few dates last year, and I felt NOTHING, I decided that it would be better if I would focus more on my aviation career, but I won't lie, sometimes my desire for women can spike sometimes
Yup, a 5/10 woman still has an easier time getting laid than a Chad
More strength = More muscle
More muscle = looking more attractive to women
Show us a picture of yourself
Stop being a whiny faggot. Stop caring what other people think. Lower your standards
That’s not true at all.
Considering a major parcel of the population, more strength=less muscle, because they actually have a shit form, only to prove they can lift a lot, like guys that overuse their front deltoid when doing curls.
Less weight, proper form= more muscle, especially when you’re a natural like me
24 khv in grad school
where do I even look for a gf
No full body pic, there’s people I know that browse this board
you have issues man, because no homo, you have a nice bod,
Same. You tell me, since you’re older
Ofc I have issues. I’m depressed and probably have some other undiagnosed psychiatric diseases. Stating facts doesn’t help
stop jerking off and stop looking at porn.
its not a meme it really does help what do you have to lose by trying it?
youtube.com
also start doing vitamin D3 and zinc
Boohoo I'm in the same situation except kissless virgin, out of shape, and no college. You'll be fine.
How'd you feel about the end of DBS?
do you roid?
Are you a manlet?
Have you gone to a psychologist/psychiatrist?
they really help.
Get therapy or watch Evangelion
Does your name start with T and ends with R?
What I see on this board are sad cunts looking for validation from women. They better themselves externally, more muscles, more money, better clothes, better skin, better hair, etc... which is a good start, but it's a dead end, because external validation is limited and also unstable.
What I recommend instead is self validation and self respect, and to get that, you do what you want, by yourself, fuck other people's opinion. It's going to be a hard struggling path, but there's no shortcuts. You wanna get laid? Talk to women. That's it. Talk to every girl you find slight interested in. Fail hard. Go full autist if you have to, and learn. It's not about sex, it's about attraction. The hunt isn't just about the kill. You cook with heat, not fire.
Ask yourself, what would a confident ass motherfucker do? Then do it. You won't do it like u imagined, but you are shooting for the heroic, the ideal, and that's worth something.
Stay true user
Chris?
how about stop being a dumbfuck that types like hes posting on a tree stump in transylvania
>good speaker, when it's about college and professional stuff, my sole problem is with women
Okay user...don't treat them like they're aliens from another planet even though most of the time they act like they are. Just be calm and be yourself. Talk to them the way you talk to your bros. Be confident. Ask if they have any hobbies, what kind of music they like...you know...shit like that. I think your main issue is that you over think the fuck out of everything and I totally understand that since I deal with my own issues with anxiety. You're also still really young dude...I have a friend that never had sex or had a gf until he was 24 and he's now happily married. You'll make it bro.
>Legitimate call for help
Best advice here
I’ll try it again starting today. The reason I’m so afraid of NoFap is because I turn into an animal. I get erections anywhere and I just feel like gropping all of my girl friends
It was rushed and it seems like they all lost their transformations in the end. Really lame.
No. 2 years natural. I’m a huge guy in general. Guys in my gym that do steroids have a hard time keeping up with my size. It’s mostly genetic, since even the untrained women in my family are frkin huge compared to others
5’11”, up to almost 6’0” in shoes
Evangelion fucked me up when I first saw it. I tried psychologists and others but I may be a sociopath, which makes it a bit harder to treat
Thanks. I get rejected a lot. I don’t know if it’s because I’m rude or sth. Maybe I’m just bad at noticing body expressions. So, do you think I should keep pushing with my autism? Is it going to be my ultimate salvation?
I’m not dumb, just lazy
>better give up 25% into my life
Retard
It's true. My bro reps 2pl8 on the bench, squats only 2.5pl8 for reps, but he is extrenely dedicated, has excellent form and makes fucking sure to get in 8-12 reps every time. My biceps look great, and only curl like 45 pounds for reps (after chin ups), think about it man. 70% of your 1rm 9 times is still more volume than 85% of your 1rm 4 times, and this is something people who want to get aesthetic mess up. That, diet and form
Another 24 khv reporting in. I don't even know how to talk to people, let alone to women.
I feel what you feel. Try getting drunk in a pub with friends, it might help while alcohol dies it's magic. But, in some cases it's make me even more depressed, though.
>posting Gavin "I shoved a dildo up my ass but lemme lecture you on masculinity" McInnes
Listen to this faggot instead
you need to approach women, you know, just say hi, ask how they were in the exam or whatever the fuck, get their number and go from there.
What helped for me was the book models by mark manson. But most importantly I suggest you stop trying to find women to have sex with and focus on yourself for a while first. Try getting some hobbies and doing stuff to make yourself happy.
Honestly risky sex is not fucking worth it what so ever and it won't make you feel any less lonely. Especially not if it's with someone you meet everyday, you will feel so much regret and anxiety about it and it won't be pleasant for anyone of you for at least a week after. I seriously wish I could go back to being a shut in instead of a degenerate and I just might, I'm sick of this shit. Regardless of what satan's modern day west and its lackeys in the media says, sex isn't soley a positive experience. My advice? Either go full MGTOW or try to find some chick who you really connect with and get into a relationship with her. Hook-up culture is rotten and depraved.
You are in grad school. Look for a gf at school. Just talk to chicks. If they seem interested, keep talking. If they don't, don't press it.
Start by talking to cashiers. Just a simple 'hi how are you'. Work from there. If you can't even do that. Spend more time in public and learn to be comfortable around people
Then why the fuck would you post half of your face?
chicks seem fairly interested in talking to me at college, however i dont catch their attention easily outside of the academic environment
cashiers around here are at most a 2-3. Id rather be a virgin than flirt with a 3.
I feel like I've been a virgin for long enough and it just isn't worth paying my mind to ugly women
it's the lower half. no important facial features can be seen
Get a prostitute, then come back to us for the next phase.
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If you don’t know where to start, figure it out on google. You could have a hooker in your appartment / dorm within an hour.
Don't drink hard alcohol by yourself. That will only lead to a much much worse form of anti-social behavior.
Talk to everyone you casually interact with. Make sure to be pleasant to everyone.
With girls, after you introduce yourself and she doesn't "get away from me you creep" ask here some questions about her interests and aspirations. Mix in some inane questions to to keep the conversation light. At some point initiate some form of intimate contact to show her that you are not her brother.
If you like the person get their phone number and set something up with them. Ideally it should be in a space where you two can be alone. At this point she wants you to succeed and the only thing holding you back is anxiety induced "autism".
If you are still like this at age 25 the Swiss invented a drug called LSD that can help you find insights into the patterns of behavior you find unsuitable.
The numbers aren't terrible, but earlier you said you were one of the strongest at your school, well that is a huge lie then.
talk to girls at school, try clubbing maybe
this guy gets it
I just don't know what to say in a conversation, so I keep quiet. Eventually people will think that I don't want to talk with them. Like at my workplace, they don't even try talking to me now.
Unironically took a screenshot of your comment (mobile fag). Gonna read it every morning as I wake up and whenever I need to step out of my comfort zone, thanks user
Go clean shave Veeky Forumscism and like you'll get all the bitch go to anime cons and shit rake in qt cosplay gf
Your college should have a mental health center. Start there. You don’t have to feel this way user, life can be better believe me.
It's a hard balance between:
A) actually engage them in conversation and be interested in them as a person. Think of that BR2049 scene where Luv states "it's invigorating to be asked personal questions"
B) not giving a fuck. I know it sounds paradoxical, but it's about having no expectations, which means you don't have to live up to their expectations and feelings, which makes you comfortable, and when you're comfy, people will be comfy with you as well
Example: making eye contact with cashier, ask them about their day. Empathise with them if you're also having a shit day, but don't treat this as a outcome based conversation. Get in there and connect with them as a person. It's a process.
Women/people will not respond well if they sense you're trying to get something out of them (unless they're also trying to get something out of you, then both of you will play a shitty fucking game)
This is bad advice
I did it last year and not only was it awkward and embarrassing as fuck, I realized that sex isn't anywhere near as good as I thought it would be
I was 22 then, 23 now, still haven't kissed a girl because the whore wouldn't let me kiss her