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Combat Manuals: Mercenaries (final build)
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Touring the Stars Compilation
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Touring the Stars Manassas
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>/btg/ does a TRO:
builtforwar.blog(not spam)spot.com/

>How do I do this Against the Bot thing?
pastebin.com/pE2f7TR5

>Overview of the major factions?
bg.battletech.com/universe/great-houses/
bg.battletech.com/universe/the-clans/
bg.battletech.com/universe/other-powers/

>How do I find out what BattleMechs a faction has?
masterunitlist.info/

>Map of /btg/ players (WIP):
zeemaps.com/map?group=1116217&add=1

>BattleTech Introductory Info and PDFs
bg.battletech.com/?page_id=400

>Rookie guides
pastebin.com/HZvGKuGx

>Sarna.net - BattleTech Wiki
sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page

>Megamek - computer version of BattleTech. Play with AI or other players
megamek.info/

Unit Designing Softwares
>SSW Mech Designer
solarisskunkwerks.com/
>MegaMek Lab
megameklab.sourceforge.net/

>BattleTech IRC
#battletech on irc.rizon.net

>PDF Folders
mediafire.com/folder/9q792hobnbpw3/Battletech
mediafire.com/folder/sdckg6j645z4j/Battletech

Other urls found in this thread:

harbdog.github.io/roguemek/
mediafire.com/?8yfdymaxs40a5js
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

Discovered using this in my current ATB game.
Ended up buying a whole lance of them.

Anyone tried RogueMek yet?
harbdog.github.io/roguemek/

The poor units featured on Sourcebooks only are so underrated.

Behold, my crappy attempt at colorizing.

It's a good start. I can tell what's going on with the design a better now.

I'm still rather disappointed that they killed off Wilson's Hussars in the jihad. It would have been much funnier if they'd somehow lived through it and were still there, still almost broke, still going, all the way into the Dark Age

Since this came out I now default all generic SPGs to those, ICE Thumpers, and Longtoms.

Couldn't start a battle, get a blank screen.
But if this works I might try my hand on it.

It could be fun, run a campaign over /btg/ with a browser like system. We could even run some tracks, add some fluff. Could be fun.

Noobie question: I found a copy of the Battletech 2nd Edition box set in my FLGS. It's in great condition: almost all of the punch-out bits are still in the original cardboard sheets.

1) Is this box set worth $50?
2) Is it a good way to get started with BattleTech in general? I've always liked the look/feel of the earlier products...

>50 bucks

Bro trust me on this, grab the 25th anniversary box for 44 bucks. You get actual minis on those.

3rd edition is the old set you want if you want old box sets. It comes with plastic minis. Even Battledroids came with two N-scale kits. 2nd edition is only good for the fun of the rule book, which you'll tend to pick up in old book lots anyway, like the solaris rule book.

You can download the rulebook and the counters from the main folder here in any case.

>solaris rule book
Is it possible getting the Solaris arena boards?

It's pretty hard to get certain old maps, especially the solaris ones and the ones from scenario books. Megamek has most of them in it's map file that you can print out though.

I still count my blessings that I have stuff like the special Luthien map with the Coordinator's Palace on it.

I know that Ral Partha Europe sell the Solaris map sheets.
The large ones are sold separately, while the smaller ones are part of the selection they use for their random map packs (10 maps from compilations 1, 2 and Solaris).

Anybody else betting on ilClan Sea Fox?

One of the April Fools pdfs (I forget which) has them in pdf.

Do the Lyrans ever use their "wall of steel" strategy correctly in the lore?

The compilation packs are printed on cheap paper instead of the good cardboard though.

4th Succession War.

By correctly you mean just keep throwing loads of guns and armor at the enemy until you muddle through? Yes. All the time.

If you mean parking a bunch of slow bruisers that your mobile forces funnel the enemy into, they do that too.

If you mean Atlas scout lance then THOMAS HOGAAAAAAARTH!

>Atlas scout lance

Is that really a thing?

The answer to the question "Do Lyrans use Atlases to scout?" is no.

The answer to the question "Do Lyrans send assault lances into unscouted territory?", however, is yes.

Well I suppose they would have enough to make it worthwhile.

Is it worth getting the Falcon's Prey or Death from Above boosters on amazon or ebay? Will they come with a decent amount of mechs?

Pretty sure boosters only contained one mech.

Not even guaranteed. Could just as easily be an industrial or a tank.

I'm just wondering why there are so many boosters from those two expansions still available? Like, what's the catch?

A couple years ago, you could just buy the factory complete sets of everything pretty cheap. No catch. Just happens to be what is available.

Falcon's prey isn't too memorable except for being the only expansion to have classic elementals.

Could be resealed packs stuffed with shit no-one wants.

Could just be because it's a dead game.

>Is it possible getting the Solaris arena boards?
They put out printable versions in the April Fools Royal Fantasy Tournament pdf. Plus, Disney Princesses in BattleTech. What's not to love?

You are better looking for complete sets, they are cheap and you know what you will get. Other really cheap and common minis are :

Mangonel and Jade Hawk (starter set)
Industrial mechs
Ugly mechs (such as the reseen)
Mechs released after 2007 (when they released that Solaris VII and Battleforce sets)

Look for wrok-it2004 in ebay. He has a huge mini collection and you can ask him for specific minis.

Gentlemen, the Built for War preview is now available.

mediafire.com/?8yfdymaxs40a5js

We've got it up on time and with everything we said it would include. Go us.

Now go shill the hell out of it.

There are a couple of issues I haven't been able to figure out yet: the embedded .pdfs for unit stat may have issues if you open it in your browser, and some people may find the unit text to be blurry.

Aaaaaaw shit nigga. It is of happening

>Those pretty pictures

Nnnnngh

>a teaser within the teaser

M A D M A N
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The pdf crashes my tablet... I'm using Moon+ by the way

We're never getting ilKhan, its never going to happen. We're going to get succession wars 2, a bunch of shitty xtros for it, then succession wars 1, a bunch of shitty xtros for that, then succession wars 3 redux, a bunch of shitty xtros for that, then they're going to reset the time line. To the 4th succession war, due to the sales of the previous 3.

There's a typo here on the first unit.
>Unlike other aquatic specialists, the Salamanders maintain a large unit of battle armored troopers.
Should be this, I'll try and see if there's others.

Also on the Veles page, 'contubernium' is mispelled as 'contuberium' a couple times.
Last paragraph of the Deployment section, second to last sentence "...then called in called in pinpoint artillery fire..." remove one instance of 'called in'.

On the Dragonfly fluff page, Capabilities section, last sentence "...developing a program to meet technicians meet this challenge." the first 'meet' should probably be 'help'.

On the stat page for the Knight, its shield is listed on the Right Arm instead of Left - I know stats trump art, but it also says there are no available critical slots left in the Right Arm, where every configuration keeps its primary weapon.

If you guys are still in the editing process and don't want people CGLing in fan corrections, that's fine. These were just a couple things I noticed on a first pass. Overall, it looks pretty good.

The Knight's legs and torso look fairly similar to the old Hatchetman's, to the point that I think a decent kitbash could be done of it with minimal cutting and sculpting required. Was that a deliberate art choice or convergent evolution of humanoid sci fi robots?

>If you guys are still in the editing process and don't want people CGLing in fan corrections, that's fine.
We're still in the editing process and welcome people CGLing in fan corrections. How else are we going to improve it?

Also, in the future we need to make sure Muninn doesn't stay up overnight working on it. That's probably the cause of a number of the typos.

Aaw yiss

>worthwhile
No
But they can offset the losses from ineptitude better than any other house.

Hot Damn!

People have already spotted the mistakes i'm seeing so far. One thing to note however is that the font for the first several units stats are light and tough to read...at least for me. Not sure what can be done about that or whether its just me.

The Cover is also nice but not up to the standards of the rest of it. The layout and color scheme hopefully aren't final.

>But they can offset the losses from ineptitude better than any other house.

What about the Federated Suns?

FedSuns don't take losses from ineptitude.

Palmyra

we only take losses because the writers hate us

That thing looks like a cross between Darth Vader and a Cylon.

>dat monoeye
SIEG ZEON

I think anyone familiar with Caleb Davion would disagree.

But then again, it was suggested that Caleb Davion was a sound tactician in Era Report 3145.

Sorry, I was unclear. I was referring to the eras of real Battletech, not Dark Age shit.

What about George Hasek then?

Didn't he start a war that wound up costing his March dearly when the Capellan's struck back and managed to lay siege to New Sytris?

>we're perfect in my headcannon

That went against every previous characterization he had if you read Imminent Crisis and FM Fedsuns. The man was the last of the Hanse-type Davions. Then he went completely retarded. Sovereign Justice made no sense. Makes me wish he got assassinated sooner so at least we could lay the blame on his sister.

>What about George Hasek then?
He was perfectly competent, he just got whacked halfway through the campaign, and his boys only got wrecked once the capellans started nuking them while mysteriously avoiding getting nuked back. Can't blame anyone for that

>That went against every previous characterization he had
>Then he went completely retarded. Sovereign Justice made no sense.
Hrm, I wonder why...
>Can't blame anyone for that
Is that a fact
We know exactly what happened

And people believing that the FS had the capability to shoot up Sian.

Especially after Sun-Tzu survived it.

>in Imminent Crisis all George Hasek wants is to safeguard his March and stay on guard for Capellan predations
>suddenly when the plot requires New Avalon not get reinforcements Hasek is written to launch an invasion with a post-civil war tattered military with practically no back up
One of the cringiest moments in the early Jihad

Man New Syrtis had a really shit decade at that time.

>Barely repelled Katrinatards in the FCCW
>Sacked and occupied by the Capellans less than two years later
>Left unprotected and ortillery bombarded by Taurians a couple years after that

Makes you wonder how enough of anything was left to keep it a march capital. That's core world during the first two succession wars level of raped.

The Capellans attacked it but didn't sack and occupy it. That came in the Dark Age.

It should be one of those in-universe conspiracy theories that he was replaced like Thomas Marik was after the assassination attempt in Imminent Crisis. The George that launched Sovereign Justice was really a double, and that's why he was later assassinated by his own people when his actions went so totally off the rails.

>That's core world during the first two succession wars level of raped.
>wah we lost some wars it's as bad as the planets that had everything of value on them nuked into nonexistance
ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Not even close. It still has buildings standing, after all.

Plus, it's not like the capellans really wanted to destroy it too badly anyway. New Syrtis is one of the ancestral Capellan worlds, and razing it would only make its inevitable reconstruction (once it's been properly reintegrated into the Confederation) more difficult.

The Capellans didn't just attack it. They conquered it. The units there didn't leave until they got the call to come home. I forget why though. Was it breakdown of the St Ives pseudo truce or fighting the WoB?

Eh, about the same as New Earth or a similar place.

>New Syrtis is one of the ancestral Capellan worlds

So that business about most of the Capellan March being historical Liao territory is true?

No, they attacked it and withdrew without being able to conquer it. George Hasek was assassinated afterwards or else the Cappies would have done him in.

Like I said, the conquest came in the Dark Age.

Rolled 34, 125, 182, 40, 143, 186, 144, 141, 90, 142, 26, 133, 76, 187, 107, 160, 49, 193, 23, 102 = 2283 (20d200)

Rolled 38, 34, 3, 37, 35, 26, 26, 21, 13, 9, 29, 40, 33, 31, 39, 31, 5, 21, 1, 22 = 494 (20d40)

>cappies consider Chesterton an ancestral world
>they never owned it
it's a bit of a joke

NEW AVALON ANCESTRAL CAPELLAN WORLD
TERRA ANCESTRAL CAPELLAN WORLD
STRANA MECHTY ANCESTRAL CAPELLAN WORLD

>So that business about most of the Capellan March being historical Liao territory is true?
Haha, no. The cappies in-universe (and their more rabid fans in the real world) have an EXTREMELY elastic definition of "ancestral capellan world"

According to the radical Capellan fans, if you draw a line across the Inner Sphere from Solaris to Terra to Robinson, everything "south" of that line is "Ancestral Capellan Territory." I recall one of the Beemers (not madCap) making a completely serious post about taking Tamarind back from the usurpers who "stole" it from the Caps.

Fucking Tamarind.

Hahaha no

the state that took the most from the Cappies was the FWL, mainly Andurien and the surroundings

When the Chancellor is the RIGHTFUL FIRST LORD OF THE STAR LEAGUE, all worlds are ancestlal Caperran worrds.

>Was that a deliberate art choice or convergent evolution of humanoid sci fi robots?
Convergent evolution. I just wanted a mech that looked like a knight. I regret nothing. And yes, the shield is in the wrong arm, but for a small fee, Shende would have made you a left handed version.

Technically I think the Suns took slightly more worlds than the Free Worlds.

>TERRA ANCESTRAL CAPELLAN WORLD
Technically, it is. Then again, it's technically EVERYONE'S ancestral world.

On the note of historical Capellan Worlds, didn't Kai leave Confederation service after orders to attack a world that had never been part of Liao territory?

>What about the Federated Suns?
The FedSuns actually has absolutely shit manufacturing capacity for most heavies and assaults through the Succession Wars and until well into the Invasion.
In 3025 they have: JagerMech, Rifleman, Marauder, Victor, Longbow, and very limited Atlas lines

They spend most of their refits pulling explosive components >out< of their Heavies and rebuilding salvaged enemy units, as well as raiding for parts. The Cataphract line helps a lot, as does the Caesar (one of the reasons I suspect they kept producing it was to have another trooper heavy line in the control of the Suns). The place the Suns shone was using 'Mechbuster refits to polish some of the worst turds in their lineup, and their massive and very nasty Medium selection.

No, the planet haven't been part of the CC since one of the Succession Wars (3rd or 4th)

That is surprising.

I thought the Suns were right behind the Lyrans in terms of building Heavy and Assult Mechs.

All the early fluff is about them using medium troopers and having the closest thing to a professional army compared to the other states.

But that's all been retconned anyway. We shouldn't really consider anything between about 2800 and 3039 as actually canon

Well, the big thing about the Fedcom formation back in the day was the Feddie formations getting a lot more heavy equipment and the Elsie formations getting a lot better officer training.

Of course all that went down the tube bigtime later but it was a big part of the alliance back when the fox was pounding sweet jailbait princess pussy.

>The Cataphract line helps a lot
Except for the the CTF-3D being the mess that it is.

But they built the 1X until 3050. Not that it's an excuse for the 3D being almost a Rifleman 4D-tier clusterfuck.

As has been pointed out by others, this is a bit of a running gag. The core of the joke is with Chesterton, a system the Capellans have claimed for centuries. They treat it like it's lost territory, yet to be reclaimed - there's a Duke of Chesterton, a brigade of Chesterton Reserves, etc.

At no point (prior to 3144) was Chesterton ever part of the Confederation. It was part of one of the smaller states that joined another smaller state that eventually banded together against the Suns' military adventurism to form the Confederation, but it was captured before then. The Caps were after ever since, coming close during the early Succession Wars, but being kicked off by the Syrtis Fusiliers (and an angry populace) before they could secure it. Guess they finally got it while riding that Dark Age high.

>Implying such alliances aren't what sweet jailbait princess pussy is FOR

Actually, now I look at it the Knight's fixed equipment and space table is missing a lot - the space numbers are probably right (swapped shield notwithstanding?) but the endo and ferro aren't on there.

Not gonna lie. I would've still hit Katrina too if I was in Hanse's shoes.

I think you mean Melissa.

I meant both, but I am a greedy bastard.

Would you hit Mad Kat?

If he was in Hanse's shoes, that'd be kinda gross. But also might explain some of her issues.

lolwut

Can you give me any other info?

Thanks. We're going to be editing probably until and after the final release, so please do point out any other errors you see.

It never ceases to amaze me how many things slip past 5 people looking it over.

The Knight's legs were in fact a deliberate choice on Plog's part. I didn't tell him to draw on that look but he did so in order to give the Knight "spurs" and I quite like it after the fact. Also surprised at the number of people that have noticed it.

I only woke up to get food and fix anything that was urgent, going back to sleep.

Yeah, the cover is just something I put together after going "Fug, need a cover piece" at 3 am. Will have proper cover art in the end.

Can you tell me what PDF reader you're using? Or take screencaps? People are having issues with it, and everyone seems to have a different one. It all looks pristine on my end, so I'm clueless until I get more info.

Plog made the feet that way on purpose, actually.

The spaces are right, but the endo and ferro aren't on because I was experimenting with a way to save space. The structural component lines can take up over 14 lines of text on some mechs, and that was way too much.

Not sure what the deal is with the shield, will have to check that out when I wake up for reals.

I make it a point not to put my dick in anyplace Vlad Ward has been or will be.

DESU, as a fedcom loyalist, I wish that Victor hadn't been a coward and said "yes" to katerina at least once, so's we'd still have all FedCom all 24/7

I visited the OF and it is shocking just how slow it is.

Why? They decided about three years ago to turn it into a place for Beemers and their friends to talk to Beemers and their friends, then ran off everyone else and made it hostile to new users (who by definition can't be Beemers or their friends).

It was a shitty thing to do, but it's what they wanted the official site to be.

The shit quality of new products and slow release schedule for anything that's not TTS doesn't help drive conversation much either.