If the 90s is seen as having been full of ridiculous over the top grim darkness in media...

If the 90s is seen as having been full of ridiculous over the top grim darkness in media, what trends in media typify the 2000s and the 2010s.

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Post 9/11 grimderp
Gritty military realism even in sci fi
JIBUN WOOO
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER
UNDERSTANDING
Zombie apocalypses

Did I miss anything else in a nutshell?

Vampires, and Werewolves
Young Adult Dystopian Literature

Shitty pg 13 everything

That was the 80s, were even children shit was dark as fuck.

9/11 happened, so grimdark got even grimmer, but without the undertone of satire that 90s and earlier 40k had.

>Young Adult Dystopian Literature
Might as well also throw in Young Woman that is going to change things for the better, and may or may not use a bow and arrow.

>a need to be "realistic" without understanding what's actually realistic
>weaponized nostalgia
>somehow dialing back and accelerating lewd stuff
>bald dudes with guns
>anime influence from people who are embarrassed for liking anime
>hamfisted politics being shoved into media from every side

After 9/11 I think there was a lot of exploration of having to choose between freedom and security.

tacticool over-designed hexagon topuch display drone head dubstep korean cartoon master chief terrorism

Don't forget Korean Zombie Desk Cars.

Does the whole theme of "Technology can be used for good or for evil" still count?

Ultra Realism, followed by Heavy 80s Nostalgia, LOLORANDUM, and Nerdchic.

>Porn trends
Blacked got made I guess, cuckoldry porn is a thing. Hentai dubs are sadly not as common.

Forgot to mention a large increase in futa. And of course pony lewds.

>wanting hentai dubs

Why would you want that?

Because the sound of japanese women squeaking is like nails on chalkboard. I generally don't listen to porn with sound anyway, too many dude sounds and fake or exaggerated "OH YEAH"s etc. are boner kill to me.

Of those things the only thing I like is 80s/early 90s fauxstalgia

Gritty reboots became all the rage.

But everybody doing the gritty reboots forgot to actually craft them well. Still tumbling down that downward slope.

>what trends in media typify the 2000s

Whatever the hell this is:
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user you responded to. Because they're either hilarious or good, and I'm happy with either.

2010s? Random quirky humor, similar to the 90s quirky but lovable loser.

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If it's vanilla porn the plot is probably already garbage as it is, might as well get some laughs out of it.

young mary sue saves world from oppression of white people

>mfw SatAM sonic was just a bunch of abhumans and twists harassing the Magos of a young forge world.

Fucking this. They just squeak in a manner that sounds like they are in non stop pain while every guy sounds like some drunk jackass who narrates every action he does as he does it.

At least with dubs it sounds like porn and not someone stepping on baby rabbits.

Feminism

White woman protagonist + ethnic man sidekick.
Token gays and other nonhetero individuals with few other defining features.
3D animators jizzing all over everything.
Characters onscreen lacking visual cues to tell them apart from each other.
Comedy in which over half the scenes are plagiarized from non-comedy movies.
The entire third act of the film is a single action sequence.
Post Game of Thrones dark fantasy. though this seems to have trailed off
Generally good Marvel movies.
Generally terrible DC movies. just sell the movie rights to Disney already fuck
Watered down PG-13 horror films.
Rampant remaking of everything that's still recognizable.
ANIMEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I remember when superhero movies were a bit cheesy and all fun. Christopher Nolan ruined that for everyone.

The pain aspect actually sounds appealing

>00's

The era of acessibility; creators focused on how the audience engages with their product and tried to remove barriers to entry.

>10's

The era of inclusion. Creators attempt to broaden their works' appeal to numerous social minorities.

liberals

On the DC thing, If they did sell rights to Disney, we could finally get the amalgam universe back

I like this because it's general. I feel like the hallmark though is that each one did it badly. The aughts had "friendly" media, but it tried too hard sometimes. The 10s have the inclusion thing, but frequently ends up stereotyping more than trying to normalize. See: transwomen in media not played by transwomen ending up just looking scary as fuck. Meanwhile Laverne Cox enjoys a decent level of success (can't speak on her acting though because I haven't watched anything with her in it). Or someone already mentioned token gay characters who just end up as annoying stereotypes of gay people. Token, demeaning black characters are almost as bad, but anyone can pretend to be gay, but you can't pretend to be black.

well, I guess technically you can.

No, 90s were grimdarker, deliciously edgy and even the style used to be more twisted, specially in cartoons.
Spawn is pure unaltered 90s.

They did it badly because inclusion for its own sake is meaningless. It would be like letting exaclty one black family own a house on your block so the community can shun them.

Well, given that the 2000s were half a decade ago, and we're currently directly living through 2010s, I'd say it's a bit too early to ask this question.

Come back and ask in 2030 or 40, assuming we're not all dead by then.

>zombie vampire wolves apocalypse
>moral greyscales
>the goodies haf to do badz sometimes too
>effeminate sensitive guys
>post-matrix subjective realities and existentialism

Stupidity with a vengeance, a total lapse of reason in favor of failing social constructs. Massive disparity of economic means and their implications for survival and well being for the majority of the population.

But this isn't framed as a central issue, more as a backdrop for violent intolerance against any nonconformity. It's basically Nazi propaganda, only with the media competency of 100 years of public relations.

The search for reason in the human condition is reduced to a private individualist undertaking not to be shared and explained but to be blindly and ruthlessly defended against diverging or opposed opinions while ignoring any underlying logic.

It's really a symptom of a class of plutocrats artificially inflated by decades of military and intelligence overspending adhering to little oversight whose objectivist mind games serve as rationalization for endless narcissism.

Humanity is now a Venn diagram of open hostility and the only reason anarchy and violence do not reign supreme is an ever more oppressive and totalitarian governance built on deception.

It's 50s denial in conflict with the effects of extreme corporatism while civilization tethers on the brink.

Or more simply put, it's the desperate search for new lies because the old ones stop working. It's shallow exploitative pandering to the lowest common denominator. And China is getting better at it than Hollywood.

Remakes.
Fuck Sony for pissing on Ghostbusters for a cashgrab.

>The entire third act of the film is a single action sequence.

When did this start happening? It's fucking ridiculous. I can't tell what's worse- When Force Awakens pulls a Death Star out of it's ass because they don't have a single original idea to create dramatic tension, or when the Hobbit put out the third movie that was 3 hours of bad CGI fights and dumb slapstick.

It's not bad when done well
The Avengers did it well for example
Iron Man too
Superhero movies in general tend to do it well because the plot is
Act 1
>protag/s and villain/s are introduced
Act 2
>villain is revealed along with his master plan and is shown working towards it
Act 3
>final battle

Maybe that's where it got its start? Hollywood is filled with people who are creatively bankrupt and just want to copy superficial aspects of the last big movie without understanding exactly what worked and why. "Avengers and Iron Man had huge final battles, so we should too" sounds like exactly that kind of reasoning.

I was just saying it's not necessarily a bad thing
Which then again could be applied to anything
>generally new thing, or new take on thing is done
>massive succes
>a million clones/sequels/spinoffs/remakes/prequels etc. appear
Think paranormal activity

Much more artsy crap, feminism and lgbt crap, ridiculous special effects crap and overacting crap, and internet becoming mainstream

Terrible, action-packed, "fun" artwork.

>Fuck them til they bleed, then fuck them some more.
Huh. That DOES sound like today.

Feminism

This is nothing new in media. 80's and 90's had tons of token "girl power" moments. "Girl power" has simply transitioned into more convoluted empowerment fantasies (Hunger Games and its billions of clones) or whiny complaints of injustice while not taking any action against it.

For mainstream music:

>Very early 2000's
Basically the late 90's 2: electric boogaloo. Boys bands are still huge, many pop idols make their breakthrows starting around here -- think Brittney Spears and Christina Aguilara. Rap scene is basically owned by Eminem.

>Early-to-mid 2000's
Boy bands are fading rapidly; Justin Timberlake the only survivor. Pop idols mentioned before explode in popularity. In the rock scene, this is the heyday of the Post-Punk/Post-Grunge revival. Bands like The Strokes, Franz Ferdinand etc. are seeing success. Rap starts to enter it's "bitches 'n' hoes" stage that it will occupy for much of the rest of the decade.

>Mid 2000's
Pop trends stay strong, though shift to focus more on electronic sound. Media frenzies around famous pop idols are a dime a dozen. Post-Punk/Post-Grunge starts to fade as many of the big names fail to follow-up their explosive entrances. The scene gets dominated by Emo, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, and Linkin Park are basically inescapable, especially if you had any contact with teen or pre-teen girls during this time. Rap is very regional; the Houston rap scene briefly dominated the Dirty South, then promptly dies out.

>Late 2000's into Early 2010's
Pop idols of the past decade go out like Super-Massive Stars: via detonation (except a few acts like Beyonce and, again, Justin Timberlake -- dude's fucking immortal). Pop begins a club/party music phase which will dominate for a long time. Emo basically dies out, and there no big name bands to fill the vacuum left by them in the rock scene; Indie/alternative rock in its modern incarnation (though they have their roots with bands such as Modest Mouse) starts to take hold, though it is no where near mainstream yet. The rap scene becomes dominated by Lil' Wayne and his cohort of associated rapers, Young Money; acts like Nikki Minaj and Drake have their roots here.

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>Present
The Party/Club phase pop music has been experiencing is in its twilight. Starting around 2011 with songs like "Pumped Up Kicks" by Foster the People, indie starts bleeding into the Pop Scene. By 2016, pop and indie have become increasingly similar in sound to one another, and it's increasingly common for indie bands to breakthrough into the pop scene, if only for one hit. The "Young Money" era in rap has ended, as well, with Nikki Minaj and Drake being the only survivors of it. They fill a the more pop end of the current rap spectrum, with a the harder edge being dominated by Kendrick Lamar and Fetty Wop, though Fetty is definitely flirting with pop music. We are also experiencing of "Nerd Rap" phenomena, thanks to rappers like Childish Gambino. Music seems as a whole to be in a transitional phase at the moment.

That's is all I've got.

Thanks user that was pretty informative. Here's your (you)

Sjw pandering. Trans characters, lumpy brown females with multicolored dyed hair, gay characters who have to remind everyone around that they are gay every five minutes. Interacial couples of ethnic male and white females, white male and ethnic female would be opressive or something. Body forward female characters that are fatties, but no fat male characters that aren't villains.

>lumpy brown females with multicolored dyed hair, gay characters who have to remind everyone around that they are gay every five minutes...
>Interacial couples of ethnic male and white females(...). Body forward female characters that are fatties.
I'll bet you can't name five of those, or at least one example of each in traditional games. No trans characters because I'll acknowledge those are a thing these days, but c'mon, the rest of these you just made up yourself so you'd have more shit to be triggered by.

PF's Iconic Occultist is a tubby neckbeard.

Op didn't say Traditional Games, they just said media. I take it you missed the semi joke going around on Twitter about the current female protagonist archetype that seems to have shown up in web Comics?

user certainly seemed salty, but you were triggered into responding.

>2010s

Everything is cuter, or at least cute is perfectly acceptable.

Feminism returns.

The gay shit happens all the time. Book of Mormon(Broadway), Mass Effect 3(Western video game), Nights of Azure(Japanese video game), t.A.T.u(Eastern music) and, for that matter, Will and Grace(TV) was still on the air.

There, five examples in five different medias where characters exist to shout "I'm GHAY!" If you don't want to except the video games as different medias, add in Brokeback Mountain(Movie), or Steven Universe(American Cartoon), or Sakura Trick(Anime/Chinese Cartoon).

Shouldn't that actually contradict that user's claim?
>no fat male characters that aren't villains
>Twitter
Yeah, I missed it. I'm aware of that trend, but c'mon -- webcomics are a niche media form online. I guess you could also saythat the comics and other things that OP is referring to were also niche, but considering how absolutely puny those webcomics are these days I feel comfortable saying that they're nowhere near as pervasive as the general dark tone of 90's stuff.

>ethnic
Isn't it past your bedtime, grandpa?