Legacy mtg

Then godspeed to you, may I join you in the far future when it is possible to have this much disposable income in Poland.

Thanks, user. I hope to see you on the battlefield someday.

I'm playing ANT. Any good resources for playing the deck? My meta is very fair, lots of lands and stoneforge decks. Only 1 other guy plays combo (Belcher).
Hoping for grim tutor reprint in EMA.

Goldfish it. Forever.

I mostly play DDFT, and i'm hoping for a Doomsdat reprint with some new art cause the current art is right shit. I also have Belcher and Mono B Pox built but they just don't make my peeped hard enough.

Mmmm I want to get power but I need to finish paying off my student loans first. Just a couple more duals and power and I'll be done collecting.

SCG has a good article about how to sideboard as storm. The general rule of thumb I've used for normal play is "go off the turn before you're going to die".

Also I'm a budget babby but here's my list. Debating on whether Rite of Flame is better than Manamorphose. Any opinions?

If you have burning wish, shouldn't tendrils be in the sideboard?
I think rite of flames is better. The extra mana is better than the extra card if you have the tutor/wish in hand.

I play loam Pox. Hopefully the reprint Hymn to Tourach so i can get them foil. The foil art atm is pretty trash tbqh.

>loam pox
mah nigga

Currently building Bant Stoneblade, still pretty far out but i'm getting started

Playing Elves right now, picked up 3 Trops and 2 Tundra for either a Bant or Infect deck, hoping to see Wasteland, Force, and maybe Jace take a price dip in EM.

DnT reporting in

Fish, ANT, and manaless dregde are the decks I run. No idea what this might say about me. EMT wish lists?

Grixis Delver here. I love being able to be about 50% in every matchup

Grixis Delver here. I love being able to be about 50% in every matchup..

I also play BUG Delver and aluren. Waiting on a Recruiter reprint to be able to play Aluren in paper

>in every matchup
Dredge?

any other four horseman players?

I'm playing some kind of MUD stompy deck, feels so good to be able to slam a T1 Trinisphere off Monolith or even Chalice on 1. I've been going back and forth on a few Voltaic Keys in my lost though, it untaps Monolith and Metalworkwr to generate a ton of mana but it means Chalice on 1 has a downside for me, seeing as I don't have anything else at 1 cmc in the deck.

Yeah actually. I've played the matchup a lot, it's either about leveraging DRS and using bolt to pop their bridges combined with countering any spell they cast. Post board it gets way easier

It's 1 tendrils main and a second in the board to wish up.

I tried. the judge told me I could concede or he'd throw me out.

>I tried. the judge told me I could concede or he'd throw me out.
Well fuck that judge, there are ways to play it without violating any rules.

What a dick if you explain the combo most players will scoop to save time if they have no disruption

That's hysterical. I don't have a great understanding of the rules surrounding it, if the loop can be repeated an infinite number of times until the desired outcome is achieved why can't it be shortcutted? Is it because the other cards in your graveyard need to be there in a certain order and you could't generate a random grabeyard to surround the rest of the combo cards?

Building Eldrazi with a partial post mana base so I can ramp into the big stuff easily. The deck is cheap and great fun. I'm currently trying to decide between Ulamog's Crusher and It That Betrays as a one of for a stalemate breaker that can't be hit by karakas.

As for new prints I basically just want chalices, caverns and maybe trinisphere but most of my deck is modern legal

Shortcuts are only permitted if you can specify the game state at the end of your loop and an integer representing the number of iterations through your loop, i.e., "I will repeat this 400 times and at the end there will be 400 Deciever Exarchs on the field."

Four Horseman can't do that.

Why don't you just use a different kill

My legacy decks:

First, DDFT

Because then it wouldn't be Four Horseman and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Second, Pox

Anyone else play burn?

Picked up Modern Naya Burn and made the transition to legacy with this list essentially: mtggoldfish.com/deck/407563

Just curious how it fares in the overall meta.

Yes, it would have the same victory condition (orb + monolith), but it wouldn't be stupid.

Dredge
Used to play ANT but just sold all of my fetches and duals so I just have dredge and All spells left to play
ANT also wasn't as much fun as the other decks but it's legacy so they both are semi viable

Correct hymn art

All the wrong art, try again. Nice white border brainstorm though

Well then why don't you build it, kiddo.

That's funny, ANT is my favorite deck to play. Its probably the most resilient deck in that pile.

I actually have 3 different Hymn arts. I love mixing and matching arts and borders and languages because some people get unreasonably distressed by it, which delights me.

You're 100% correct but I loved playing dredge as a kid so I decided to stick with it
It's still pretty solid if you get good matchups

I prefer better decks. I'd just go for a narco/lab man kill.

I think it's a solid deck, and I understand why some people prefer it. I just personally like deterministic kills

Fair. I prefer having decks that don't look like poop

I guess looking like poop never bothered me. Came to terms with it in high school, you know what I'm sayin'?

I'm in the same boat, do I go for Chalice and risk locking myself out of Welder and Key or try to hose combo harder with a higher chance of a T1 chalice on 1

I guess if you don't appreciate aesthetics that's fine. I like having nostalgic cards in my decks

>cards from different sets
>cards with white borders
>shocklands instead of duals

3/10 see me after class

Why don't you have that black enchantment as Rack 4 to 7 instead of cursed scroll?

Cursed rack his creatures

How do you find it? I was thinking of buying in, especially with the wasteland reprint.

I'm only missing 2 duals teach let me off the hook this time.

Cursed Scroll is removal + wincon. It also makes the deck a bit less discard-focused, which is good.

What basics do y'all run? I'm torn between Unglued Forests and BFZ Noah Bradley ones.

>tfw never getting a signed revised forest to match my duals

I use the fullart zendikar lands, but I plan to switch to urza's saga lands.

Makes sense.

I love Cursed Scroll as a card, the design is neat, the art is great and I have fond memories of it being the hottest shit when I started playing, but I never found a deck in which it would be a good choice.

Mirage, Ice Age or Beta for me. I don't like the full art lands. APAC or Euro are cool too.

Most pox decks play some number of Cursed Scroll, but they're about the only deck that does I think.

Can someone explain to me how 4 horsemen works? I've never seen it before, but I've heard tales that shit is crazy.

Does legacy burn splash white and green bullshit like modern?

no it's always mono red because it gets hot shit like Price of Progress and Fireblast

I have two unhinged forest from when I played modern infect. Unhingeds and APACs are the best and that European island is based as well

But MTGO says otherwise

posted this just 4 u f@m

bccomix.com/playing-the-game-with-legacy-burn-cameron-ramsay/

I like full arts but I find John Avon overrated. He just makes everything look like it's glowing.

It's a combo deck that mills its whole library with Basalt Monolith and Mesmeric Orb, but it plays one Emrakul because the graveyard pieces have to be milled in a certain order for the combo to work. Emrakul lets you mill over and over again until you hit all the pieces in the right order before hitting Emrakul. Statistically, you'll hit them in the right order eventually but because each iteration is random repeating it over and over is considered slow play.

That's wrong then. While you could, there are enough good burn spells in red that being immune to wasteland is more important

See, I just use the lands from my old decks. The zen/bfz full arts both look extremely digital

Just came in to share something I saw over the weekend.

>Go to Uni's Magic Club looking for an EDH game
>They're running a Legacy Tournament
>Not very serious as there's a bunch of black and white printed cards
>Watch one match with a guy who has a printed Jace the Mind Sculptor on the field
>Briefly wonder why anyone would have him in casual play but continue to watch
>Guy then plays a REAL Jace the Mind Sculptor
>Proceeds to end the game by Having his opponent twice

I don't think I'll ever play against him.

building lands. i have all of the cheap shit and groves (i play tron) and im just gonna proxy the rest of it. shit is indistinguishable anyway.

>slowly build Fish over time
>don't really get to at much
>I have everything except wastelands
>check recent lists
>everyone is running Chalice
>chalice is $40 now

The ride never ends.

I'll get there eventually.

Are you lads telling me that at this very moment, I'm just a playset of Chain Lightnings away from Legacy? Golly, I'd better finish that Pauper Burn deck so I can switch on the fly.

Playing Miracles and loving it. The deck walks such a fine tightrope.

Playing esper miracles. Been fun, show and tell shits it's pants when I put a "the abyss" onto the battlefield and storm and ANT has difficulties playing around thoughtseize/IOK with counterbalanced top lock

Eidolon of the great revel is kind of important for the deck, goblin guide is pretty good.

Price of progress can be great, but you can always just flame rift motherfuckers.

Not him, but I really don't like the deck. So many people are playing it that now the meta has shifted and people know how to play against it. I'm on Grixis delver, and after losing to it a whole bunch I figured out the matchup and now consider it quite favourable.

I would recommend it to someone who doesn't like making a lot of decisions, or who isn't confidant in their ability to outplay their opponents. The deck is quite one dimensional, but if you're ok with that it might just be for you.

anyone else playing enchantress?
post secret tech

i just bought my very first deck, what the fuck is a "legacy" magic?

it's a format
you can play cards printed from every edition except few banned cards (mostly the one printed in the "what the fuck are we doing" era of WotC)

constructed magic is divided in "formats"
the official one (aknowledged and supported by WotC) are
T2 aka Standard -> you may play cards printed in the last 3 blocks of expansions (atm 2/3 of Tarkir block, new Zendikar block, magic origins and new Inninstrad)
Modern -> doesnt rotate like standard, all cards printed since Mirrodin block, but there is a banlist
T1.5 aka Legacy ->all cards from every expansion except gold bordered (strange promos or UN-editions) there is a banlist that prevents some extraordinary imba cards to be played tho (Ancestral recall, moxes, Time walk, time vault et simili)
T1 aka Vintage-> can play every card, most broken ones are limited to 1 copy instead of 4 (still stuff like bazaar are allowed 4x)

EDH aka commander -> decks are build with 99 cards + a commander (must be legendary creature) and every card is 1x, has some rules that allow multiplayer to be more fluid and slow

Pauper -> recognized by WotC but has no direct support from them, you can play only common printed cards, decks are default 60=< cards (it is no directly supported because it is a "poor" format and gives Wizard too few money)

Tiny Leader -> like commander, 1x copies for each card, decks are build with 49 cards+commander, cards cant have >3 mana cost

If you're just playing casually, you won't care about tournament formats though

I love the deck I theory but I can't be arsed to buy into it when it doesn't share any cards with the legacy decks I already have.

By playing 4 shocks instead of ABURs in ANT how much would I worsen my win percentage, give or take?

Well, the Ad Nauseam kill gets a lot more difficult. It should rarely matter if you can naturally chain enough spells together, but since you only need one of each dual as you will mostly fetch for it, I would definitely recommend getting one Volc and one USea.

Since you run even less - and more cmc expensive - mana than TES (which I am playing), I would say that 10% of AdNaus kills are lost as you often have to dig deep and stay out of bolt range and stuff.
Again, it doesn't affect much the natural kill, but you will lose maybe 3% of games to burn or two goyfs where you might have won with one lifepoint left.

If, like many ant decks, you don't actually play Ad Nauseum, you won't lose many games to your lands except in the aggro matchups and combo mirrors.

>cringy self drawn anime deck box.

Yup, legacy player alright

You're my heroes. I've been wanting to play legacy pox for years, especially loam pox. It felt sweet crop rotating a forest to a karakas then bouncing a Show and Tell'd Emrakul. I've enjoyed playing with or against all the legacy decks I've tested online. Yes they're not all fun, but I enjoy the interactions and decisions more than what's presented in other formats.

I could never get any friends to get into legacy though, because they thought modern was cheaper and better. Now they each have multiple modern decks so they probably would have saved money getting into legacy and not getting their decks banned (I'm salty, because they banned delver right after I built it). At least I managed to get the group into EDH so we can all enjoy playing with older cards and mechanics.

>I'm salty, because they banned delver right after I built it
wut?

I built the Red Blue delver deck with treasure cruise, because I had been wanting to play delver for a couple years and loved the cruise version. Then they banned cruise which I think was unnecessary. The meta was starting to deal with cruise decks well enough. People complain about modern getting stale, because it's always the same few decks, but once something new comes out that changes the meta they whip out the banhammer.

Nigga just stop, functional reprints of power have no place in Legacy.

I built 8rack and saw Pox. So the great difference in power level so I decided to go into legacy. I didn't play it for a year because my friends wouldn't see the light. Thankfully they saw the light. Now in my playgroup we have sultai, grixis delver, Eldrazi, Halloween party, Pox, and elves. SO MUCH FUN I TELL YOU ;-;.

I'm the original guy, agreed with all of this. It's linear (which is why my version is going to be slightly more toolbox for my own sanity) but it's cheap and it's Eldrazi, which I've wanted to be a deck since I started playing.

You can get around slow play by changing steps every time you shuffle back in with no board state changes.