Purposefully disobeys orders from superior officers to stand down and fight with allies

Vance won GW said so kaurava is ultramarine 2.0 get mad grimdarkfags

There's a fine line between cowardice and running away to fight another day, user.

Nah, he is just smart enough to realise you get far more fun out of fighting if you live to get to the next Waaargh.

I'm imagining a Tau KX139 in the hands of the Flash Gitz now.

Thank you.

And yet he gets into 3 planet spanning, multirace wars. Better than most warbosses.

Does DoW 2 confirm Stubbs won or just that Boreale lost?

The latter.

I saw a looted TYRANID CARNIFEX.

ANYTHING can be looted.

Who cares? He was never the best general.

Eldar won.

MOTHERFUCKING

>Space Marines having any authority over the Imperial Guard
>Blood Ravens not being heretics trying to deflect blame for their planetary purge to keep everyone away from their heretical artifacts
>Implying Sanctioned Xenos aren't a thing or that he doesn't have contacts in the Ordo Xenos
>implying the Baneblades weren't requisitioned elsewhere by Segmentum Command or the Administratum, like he says, and that the Titan Cannon wasn't buried there in the first place
>Chaos? [Citation needed]
>Implying restoring an Imperial system to full function after reconquering it isn't any good general's job

Slander and libel are acts of treason, Citizen.

op btfo

For real?

Nice

Nah.

>>Space Marines having any authority over the Imperial Guard
They are the Emperor's angels of wrath and report directly to the Adeptus Terra and the Emperor himself. By your logic, the imperial guard out ranks the Inquisition.
>>Blood Ravens not being heretics trying to deflect blame for their planetary purge to keep everyone away from their heretical artifacts
They were indeed not; infact, the Blood ravens sent to the system may have well been a majority of loyalists, sent so as to remove them from the legion. Further more, Boreal had nothing to do with the destruction of Cyrene, as it wasnt even their home world.
>>Implying Sanctioned Xenos aren't a thing or that he doesn't have contacts in the Ordo Xenos
Affiliating with enemies such as the Orks, Tau, Eldar and Necrons, all while at war could very well be treason. He was a coward, afraid to fight.
>>implying the Baneblades weren't requisitioned elsewhere by Segmentum Command or the Administratum, like he says, and that the Titan Cannon wasn't buried there in the first place
Clearly, you are mistaken incredibly. Vance "Fucking failure" Stubbs never held a titan cannon. That would General Alexander. This only proves how faulty your logic is
>>Chaos? [Citation needed]
Use of a icon of Khorne to inspire his troops to fight harder; the use of Eldar Webway gates
>>Implying restoring an Imperial system to full function after reconquering it isn't any good general's job
That is the job of the adeptus ministorium; Not some pathetic lord general. If he had won, it would have been his duty to be redeployed elsewhere and make way for the system to be re-integrated in the imperium at large, not turn it into his personal play ground.

>Slander and libel are acts of treason, Citizen.
Accusing a agent of the Inquisition of treason is heresy, Soon to be penal legionare

If he'd managed to conquer the planet, he and his men could've gotten the right to settle the world and form its upper class.

Impersonating an Inquisitor is a capital offense.
Also, Kaurava was a backwater where the Baneblades would have been "wasted" on pathetic enemies. Shipping them away is the only reasonable option.

No, he genuinely LOST them. The Baneblades were LOST.

>"Unfortunately, sir, a shipment of one hundred had just gone out to serve-"
What am I missing there?

That is a right given by the lord millitant of any particular segmentum; if it were by your logic, the Imperium would always be at war with one another for right of conquest. Even than, it would still not be his to rule.

The existence of Necrons, Chaos and the nefarious dark eldar clearly proves this theory wrong. Further more, Stubbs did not kill his men nor mind wipe them, despite their encounters with daemons. He and his men would have surely been corrupted.
Enjoy your torture and conversion into waste management servitor, fool

>>Mingles with Aliens, offering surrender instead of the deaths they deserve
Not sure what this is about. If anything it might actually apply more to Boreale, since he would have been willing to ally with Eldar in other circumstances. Stubbs, however, was very concerned with keeping up appearances - like his feigned disinterest in the Tau stronghold's technology.

>>Willingly using the blessings of chaos to achieve victory over his enemies
To be fair, so did everyone in both DC and SS.

>>Than, instead of going off and fighting another war like the general he is, he insteads takes over and instills a military dictatorship.
The system was already Guard-controlled, GOVERNOR-General and all that. On the other hand, if Lukas Alexander won in DC, he stayed behind to rule Kronus while his men left for other wars but remained loyal to him (further extending his influence beyond his new world).

>Since the outbreak of the Warp Storm on Kaurava IV, the Imperial Guard had known a humbling series of setbacks – losing a full three quarters of their fighting men was just a start. General Stubbs was determined to triumph in the face of this and all other adversity. Unfortunately, a full regiment of Baneblade tanks, the Imperial Guard’s armored super-weapon, had that very day been dispatched to various territories throughout the Kaurava system.

Only thing the Bloody Magpies haven't been "gifted" yet.
>yet

>They are the Emperor's angels of wrath and report directly to the Adeptus Terra and the Emperor himself. By your logic, the imperial guard out ranks the Inquisition.
Space Marines have no authority over the Imperial guard since the Horus Heresy, their allowance to command the guard was removed to prevent such a thing from happening as easily again. They are separate branches of the same military essentially.
>They were indeed not; infact, the Blood ravens sent to the system may have well been a majority of loyalists, sent so as to remove them from the legion. Further more, Boreal had nothing to do with the destruction of Cyrene, as it wasnt even their home world.
May? May is not very solid ground to stand on.
>Affiliating with enemies such as the Orks, Tau, Eldar and Necrons, all while at war could very well be treason. He was a coward, afraid to fight.
The Newest Codex Disagrees with you
>Accusing a agent of the Inquisition of treason is heresy, Soon to be penal legionare
No inquisitor would speak like that to a Commissar.

>Accusing a agent of the Inquisition of treason is heresy
It also very definitely isn't. Inquisitors fall all the time. So common they even have a proper procedure for excommunicating fellow inquisitors.

They may not have authority, but there is no reason to assault them and refuse cooperation.

Besides, how can you make any sort broad statement about the Inquisition? Some may just hate commisars for the hell of it; whats he gonna do in a penal legion? Also, since they are servants by mandate, yeah it is, unless your ALSO a inquisitor

>but there is no reason to assault them and refuse cooperation.
They were doing the same thing.

>Besides, how can you make any sort broad statement about the Inquisition? Some may just hate commisars for the hell of it; whats he gonna do in a penal legion? Also, since they are servants by mandate, yeah it is, unless your ALSO a inquisitor
Because well you do the paperwork to get that done, or have the paperwork done he will goto his boss, who will goto your boss, and your boss will put a stop to it unless you have some better evidence then "I say so" because guess what the Imperium is a giant bureaucratic mess, and I am pretty sure the Lord Commissar has friends in higher places then you do.

>They may not have authority, but there is no reason to assault them and refuse cooperation.
If they demand cooperation and attempt to out step their bounds then yes there is every reason to refuse such a request.

The game flat out says that his baneblades were redeployed off-world. I could play through it again to find out exactly where it's said and quote it exactly but they were redeployed not lost.

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>Purposefully disobeys orders from superior officers to stand down and fight with allies
>Proceeds to attack said allies for no reason what so ever
His 'allies' wanted to kill him and all his men because they suspected heresy in the guardsmen that *didn't* turn to Chaos. "Allies" that didn't have the authority to give him orders because Astartes and Sisters of Battle have completely separate chains of command.
He had no way to tell the difference between them being loyal, or them having betrayed the Imperium.

>Mingles with Aliens, offering surrender instead of the deaths they deserve
He had two choices:
- Weaken his forces through the casualties taken exterminating those Xenos. Which risks losing the system to one of the other threats.
- Keep his forces strong so that they can deal with the current threats by letting the xenos that weren't a threat *at that time* go.
>Loses 100 fucking baneblades, and builds a cannon that shoots in one direction, pissing in the face of the ad mech
A tribunal needs to be held to investigate the circumstances behind losing the baneblades. Since you bring up a Titan cannon that wasn't even in the system, your incompetence means you don't get to take part in the tribunal.
>Willingly using the blessings of chaos to achieve victory over his enemies
I'll defer to the Inquisiton's judgement on this issue.
> and steals precious resources from fallen allies, pissing on their graves.
Better than using tainted resources.

>Than, instead of going off and fighting another war like the general he is, he insteads takes over and instills a military dictatorship.
Chaos cults are known for hiding. Tau supporters among the human population are also likely. Various xenos could have escaped and hidden. Don't forget about the need to suppress riots while the systems infrastructure was rebuilt.

Why waste time and resources shipping other guardsmen in so that you can ship his guardsmen to a new war when you can send other guardsmen to the new war ?

>They are the Emperor's angels of wrath and report directly to the Adeptus Terra and the Emperor himself. By your logic, the imperial guard out ranks the Inquisition.
I have no fucking idea how the imperial chain of command (or any military chain of command) works - the post.

>he insteads takes over and instills a military dictatorship.
Isn't this fundamentally wrong? Doesn't he just get assigned system governorship as a reward for his successful campaign?

I have to respect the conversion, while at the same time wondering why on earth he thought it was a good idea to waste models like that.

If I remember correctly its canon that he won Soul Storm
Eldar won Winter Assault though.
Space Marines won Dark Crusade

Nope. All this bullshit happened the moment he took command which was way too fast for him to have reacted to it in time.

The whole sector was plunged into war and the two other Imperial Factions didn't wanted to see any reason (especially the Sisters), so Stubbs had absolutely no choice but to attack the Blood Ravens and Sisters because they saw the whole mess happen on Stubbs's extremely short watch.

Also what kind of bullshit are you talking about? What Chaos blessings? The Chaos Space Marines were the last to fall.

The part with taking over Kaurava was probably because the dickward nobles that ruled it ran away leaving the place to be torn asunder. Hell, Stubbs even blew up a xeno museum the nobles build. At least he had a vision and had the power to make Kaurava great again.

Also the most likeable of all the commanders in the game. Duh.

>thinking IG didn't win in SoulStorm

He already had governorship. The outcome of the campaign would just determine whether he got to keep it.

>++ Memorandum ++
>++ Topic: A New Vision for Imperial Kaurava ++
>++ Subsection: Vyasastan ++
>++ Sender: Governor-General Vance Stubbs ++
>Key among the precepts I require enacted is that administratum and military forums find mutual expression. I will repeat this as many times as necessary to get the point across. This must happen, we cannot have divisions in purpose, although we must be divided in function.
>To this end the aqueducts in sectors 19, 37, and 4 will be expanded to accommodate better converse between Dussala and Vyasa. I have already ordered the embankments on the Virata River fortified.
>Furthermore, the outer urban areas will be properly districted, just as on Attila, and the foundation-work laid for an additional space-port, with full shipping and military capacities. By these and other such efforts, we will make our world redound to the glory of the God-Emperor.

>As per the orders of Governor-General Stubbs’ sub-auxilliary executive commissioner of planetary affairs, we are pleased to announce… that tomorrow at 1100 hours there will be a formal parade of 252nd Conservator troops and heavy armor, before they are deployed to the field of battle. Attendance is mandatory. Daily Eclipse editorial looks forward to seeing you all there. Among the parade retinue will be 10,000 Guardsmen, two refitted Baneblades, and a newly arrived company of Kasrkin Guard, direct from the frontlines on Cadia.

>The small province formed by the habitable shore of Shakun Sea is famous for its health benefits, and for the wealthy and powerful who tend to have second homes along the water.
>The region boasts several proper cities, along with numerous poor fishing villages. A famed museum of xenos and mutant curiosities was closed with the arrival of Governor Stubbs, who deemed it blasphemous and heretical.

>waste

STUBBS FOR DOW 3!!! [spolier]I really want to play a OW game as part of Kaurava regiment in a crusade led by Stubbs

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>being this retarded

Orroit, 'ere's 'ow ya zoggin' loot a fancy-schmancy 'umie tank.

Firs', ya gotta krump all the squishy fleshbags inside it. Dat's da easy part. Wot I'z like ta do is just run at it wif me Choppa and hope ta Gork an' Mork that some Tankbusta happens ta fire in the righ' way! 'Asn't let me down so far!

Nex', ya gotta tear out any ee-lek-trik gubbins. Da Mekboiz get mighty mad 'bout dat, but we don't need no stinkin' 'lectriks to tells us where ta shoot!

Then, an' dis is the impORKant part, ya gotta add as much dakka as ya possibly can. THEN ADD MORE DAKKA, YA GITS. If ya can count the number of shootas on the tank, ya don't have enuff shootas, alroight?

Next, grab some metal. Doesn' matter from where, just zoggin' get some. Throw it at the tank until it sticks. Mekboiz like ta use some super burny thing ta help it stick - 'weldin', I think - but throwin' works just as well.

Finally, ya need a crew. Some gits loik ta assmbel boyz who 'know how ta tell da go from da shoot'. Me, I just grab whatever ork or gretchin is nearby, yell 'YA WANNA DRIVE A TANK' and den throw 'em inta it. Does the trick alright.

And dat's how ya loot a tank.

>traitors.

10/10

Well done.