Tundra civ ep. 54

Welcome everyone, new and old players alike! This is Tundra civ, a civ thread series in a fictional, non-fantasy setting where you play as the rulers of the White Republic, a nation in a world similar to our own.
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Previously on Tundra civ:

It is the year 1158 After the Exile. The White Republic is in a golden age as technology has advanced, the economy has been growing and people are living better than ever before. Biplanes cross the skies as automobiles are found in every major city. Our navy and army have been modernising to be able to meet the demands of a modern kind of warfare.
The world has largely been at peace for over 30 years now, but the future is uncertain. The God-Emperor of the Kaichou has gone missing, socialists are causing trouble in the Sunset Alliance's colonies and the New Pajit Union has been growing rapidly.

>Population:126 000 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 21 000 000 Eyerdar 10 500 000 Veita 10 500 000 Ocras

>Economy:9//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability: 9/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws

The Prince of Kayans united the Prizzid under his rule and then married the Princess of Al-Abad, creating a dual Prizzid-Krushid Monarchy. The two states have been loyal vassals of ours so far.
With a rising demand for oil, the government chipped in and expanded our own drilling operations in the Junutu Isles and the Hibibi desert.

I. I think we should be getting an iron grip on certain industries, like oil and energy in general. Maybe we should begin investing in nuclear and geothermal energy, we got a few volcanos after all.

D

>K.Diplomacy and war
try to politically help the KE by providing help researching the Emperor, also we must denounce the NPU for this treacherous behavior, they must be behind this, after all the spire monger have retreated in their territory, more trade sanctions inbound.
also this is my only post of the day since I have something to do this evening, have fun you all and don't go losing KE as an ally while I'm absent guys.

Our civil tech is roughly around 1919, our military tech around 1914

Flying machines you say? Why, such objects could have a myriad of uses if we were to procure our own: more accurate maps, and easier travel, bypassing of annoying trails that twist and turn in every way. Why, one fellow even has the idea of somehow using them as airborne torpedos to strike the enemy from above; though I question his sanity.

Which nation are these objects originating from? I suggest we inquire and see if any are possible through trade?

changed to F

Four independent nations exist today - The White Republic(us,names in black), the Greater Kaichou Empire, the Sunset Alliance(the nation of the chinks) and the New Pajit Union. The first three together form the Occidental Axis. We, the WR, also have a few vassal states in our home continent, Aymsland.
We are advancing through the Second Industrial Revolution. The Kaichou were the first to create reliable airships, but it was engineers from our nation that built the first aeroplane. Since then all nations have been designing such aircraft, our military has recently taken an interest in this technology, as it would allow for aerial photography. Some even propose direct combat use, though that has not yet been tested out.

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>F
we need us some big airships.

We've built airships of our own in recent years. Eyerdar Military Headquarters have also been experimenting with using these dirigibles for scouting and even combat use - the theory of aerial bombardment is still untested in real combat, but one thing is sure - the sight of a massive, armed airship coming would strike fear into the hearts of many soldiers.
Waiting for more players to gather, so smaller advances for now.

>Population:127 000 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 21 200 000 Eyerdar 10 600 000 Veita 10 600 000 Ocras

>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability: 9/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws

E. Let's improve public transit and roads/rails. We tied iur rail system to the SA, let's improve it further. Also, how affordable are cars? Maybe make a motorbike that's cheaper.

>F.Improve Military
I think we should invent in the military this round, because we're going to war soon.

F improve our airships to be able to carry planes within them.

F

Motor vehicles of all kinds are produced in our country - cars, motorcycles, buses, you name it. Automobiles aren't really cheap, in the countryside they are a fairly rare sight, the cities have more.
Rail transport is pretty well developed, some cities have also experimented with underground metropolitan railways(Metros) in recent decades. The largest such is in Centerhold, the terrain permits even further development, but it is still in early stages and not so wide-spread.
How would you like to improve our military?
A.Aeronautics experimentation
B.Land vehicles experimentation(We have some armored cars)
C.Develop better infantry and small arms
D.Develop better artillery, heavy armament and chemical warfare capablities
E.Military command, logistics and strategy
F.Other
Pick one or two

A. Work our way to airship carriers.

A and B

>A.Aeronautics experimentation
>B.Land vehicles experimentation(We have some armored cars)

>C.Develop better infantry and small arms
>D.Develop better artillery, heavy armament and chemical warfare capablities

A
B

Rolled 39 (1d100)

We organised wargames between Eyerdar and Aymsland Military HQs.
The Aymsland forces unveiled several new land vehicles - an improved armored car, artillery tractors and several variants of landships with various weaponry and armor.
The Eyerdar forces on the other hand displayed their use of a military airforce! Aside from airships, they also demonstrated fighter-planes and aerial bombardment.
These wargames were successful and useful for the development of the latest military technology.
Roll for event.

That the worst event roll in this thread and the last one.

Bad news.
It's been over eight months now with no sign of the God-Emperor. Rumors have started circulating among the commonfolk in the Empire
The Sunset Alliance is having a political crisis. At the latest election the Dragon's Will, the leading conservative party, was caught commiting voter fraud. Both liberals and socialists are angry and communist sentiments have spread not only through the colonies, but also to the homeland.

>Population:127 500 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 21 300 000 Eyerdar 10 600 000 Veita 10 600 000 Ocras

>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability: 9/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws

F, improve military. The airships must BE STRONGER AND FASTER.

>K.Diplomacy and war
Perhaps the Sunset Alliance would like some "assistance" with creating order and peace within their country.

C

>C

>>K.Diplomacy and war
Help our allies if they, become socialist then they more likly join NPU in a war aganist us.
Form the Anti-Commie League

K we must stop the spread of communism. We must help our allies in their time of need

K we will be there for our allies

Gentlemen,
our nation is stable and currently under no threat from political organisations internally, according to the latest Njordgale reports.
Two international issues are at hand - the God-Emperor of the KE is missing and the people there are starting to realise that; The SA government is unstable and there is a lot of civil unrest both at home and in the colonies, currently it's protests, increased crime rate and the occasional strike.

Propose plans of action for one or both of these.

Send soldiers and tanks and airships to help keep the peace and try to calm the civil unrest.

Send our best investigators to help track down the God-Emperor.

Send an envoy to the Kaichou empire.

how does KE succession work? I'll say though that we should send out an envoy and secretly try to find if this is because of treason

In the pic, Are those WOMEN? In the council chambers? What mad buffoonery is this! Someone escort them out before they begin prattling on about suffrage or immigration.

Send manpower to SA to calm down the civil unrest

Investigators to track down the God-Emperor

Also for both of the countries send envoys to futher our understanding of the problems, and how we can work together to slove this.

At the latest election the Dragon's Will, the leading conservative party, was caught commiting voter fraud.

Plan 1: Offer both our allies any assistance they might require, then give them whatever they ask for.
Or:
Plan 2: Under the guise of "International Security" we place the SA under our benevolent "temporary administration" for their own benefit. Can't risk those commies taking over.

It was take your daughter to workday okay.

I agree with Inky. Also I say its about time we start using sleeper agents to disrupt those communists guys who live abroad, see how they like it for a change. You know assassinations and splitting the party, that kind of thing.

why not both? but scale back plan 2 a bit so it's not a total takeover but more forceful advising

Rolled 59, 74 = 133 (2d100)

Top kek
I didn't even look at the picture thoroughly, it's A FUCKING LEAF city council from 1911.

We're making military preparations for an eventual intervention. For now, we're sending envoys to the SA and the KE(roll 1 and 2)

The God-Emperor is a mysterious figure. Only the members of the Imperial Court(Who he personally chooses) have ever seen him in person. The Court have great power in the governance of the Empire, they serve the Emperor's will.

As we coming up with a plan, what do you guys think of forming a Anti-Commie League?
I think of it as a pact with the three counties working together to get rid of socialist.

So I'm guessing we can't just replace him with someone who greatly resembles the Emperor, no?

i think thats a great idea, im in.

How about plan 1 as plan A?
If that fails and and the SA fall into chaos we will consider using plan B (formerly known as plan 2) a last resort.
>Anti-Commie League
I'm with you
>get rid of socialist
But we're kinda socialist ourselves. Department of Culture teaching people about the glories of collectivism and all that.

lel, have a njordgale put on kaichou face and pose as the god emperor?

Well by socialist I mean the bad parts about them, I just clump them together.

that's a good idea, but just saying, socialism isnt the same as communism

Yeah, like Councilor told me, but you know what I meant. That was a misthought on my part.

so
-we're forming an anti communist league
-sending an envoy to KE to find out exactly what's happening along with investigators
-sending an envoy to SA along with a small military force to help keep the peace. If possible, set up temporary, or permanent, "advisors"

Sounds good.
> temporary, or permanent, "advisors"
Let's make them temporary for the time being. If the SA devolves into complete anarchy we will take more drastic masures.

>e
+1

We don't KNOW what the Emperor looks like, user. According to the Kaichou he is a God, the same divine being has been leading their people for over a thousand years, that's probably religious hocus-pocus, but we don't really know the truth. The Court knows what he looks like.

Envoys have arrived in Xikou, capital of the Sunset Alliance.
The Dragon's Will are the party in power. Their party Chairman has become national Chairman in the latest election.
The Dragon's Will are generally percieved as the party of the elites, they've won most elections in the past century. There's also the nationalistic Tiger's Claw, the bourgeois Golden Party and the socialist Worker's Party.
The latter three are now trying to use this political crisis to gain power and popular support. It may come to the resignation of the current government and new elections. The Worker's Party have been gaining a lot of support recently, they might be able to win an election, having a plurality of the popular support already.
What shall we do?
A.Support the Dragon's Will - the conservatives have always maintained good relations with our nation and have been a reliable ally, it may take some internal changes and the Chairman's resignation to make them a viable choice to the electorate though
B.Support the Tiger's Claw - the nationalists have the sympathy of much of the military and many in the homeland, less so in the colonies. They've never won a general election, but have some representatives in the SA's parliament. They believe in putting the nation's interests first, but are open to working with their allies, as long as their sovereignty remains
C.Support the Golden Party - the party of business and free thought, it has won some elections in the past, has the support of the middle class in both colonies and homeland. In the past they've also had corruption scandals, they may be succeptible to "manipulation", the question is will we be the ones to do it?
D.Other

>B.Support the Tiger's Claw - the nationalists have the sympathy of much of the military and many in the homeland, less so in the colonies. They've never won a general election, but have some representatives in the SA's parliament. They believe in putting the nation's interests first, but are open to working with their allies, as long as their sovereignty remains

I'd have written a bit more, but 2000 characters limit.
Under Other you can consider ANYTHING, be creative if you don't like any of these three options alone.

B would be best for the SA probably, but A would be good for us but could lead to increasing dissent amongst the people.

B, having a strong and independant ally could be useful, as long as we are significantly stronger.

B

This is about the Sunset Alliance.
The Kaichou Empire after this. They're the ones with an Emperor.

>B.Support the Tiger's Claw -
I think B is the good middle ground, while if we picked A it'll cause more dissent in the people.
C looks like the nose got into it.

A+B support the dragon's will but actually support the tiger's claw. We don't want them believing we betrayed their party

My bad.

Then:
>C.Support the Golden Party
We can manipulate those fools easypeasy. For example having them invite our military and advisors into their country.

B

While C you can manipulate them easy, their is still the thing about the nose.
>they may be succeptible to "manipulation", the question is will we be the ones to do it?

True that.
But when our "advisors" are in place we can gradually neuter the power of their native political institutions in favour of our "advisory commitees". Thus possible influence by the nose is rendered harmless.

nah, that's bound to backfire eventually. I'd rather have a strong, independent ally that's beholden to us. "Advisors" would help in that regard

We'll start negotiating with the Tiger's Claw faction.
Now on to Kotoima, capital of the Greater Kaichou Empire.
Our special envoys are speaking with the Imperial Court.
They handle the day-to-day management of the Empire at a high level, directing the lower levels of government.
"We haven't seen the God-Emperor in over seven months now. Normally, we give him reports and recieve His orders every few days."
"It's happened before, for one or two days, a week, a month, but never this long. The Emperor has always come back from...wherever he goes." "He only leaves when he has something of great importance to do...usually doesn't say what it is either"
"This time he left us a message, though - I have business with Them"
The people will grow restless if they find out the Emperor's been missing, even more so that the government's been covering it up.
What shall we do in this regard, if anything?

send in njordgales to track him down.

>"This time he left us a message, though - I have business with Them"

god dam it its fucking jews

ask them if they know of any other places with the spires

>What shall we do in this regard, if anything?
Order all our operatives and intelligence to be on the lookout. We can't let our beloved allies be without their leader.
"They" have been rather innactive in recent history. Let's pray they'll remain that way.
>that's bound to backfire eventually
Indeed. Hopefully in a hilarious way.

How about we send the njordgales to track them down.
Help them keep the people from becoming restless.
Also work with them to keep their country in order.
I think the nose got to him, but we can't risk mass panic right now. We have to keep up the show.

Guy's I have an ides, it's only a basic one but what if we set up a political trap to lure the shadowy organisation into and then capture or execute a great deal of them? It would of course only be known by a few of our most loyal ministers and would be of great risk, but I for one am tired of merrily having to react to them and never striking first at them.

what would the trap be? that we "found" the emperor?

We'll be using our njordgales to help find leads on the Emperor.
"It's definately got something to do with the Organisation."


>Population:128 000 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 21 400 000 Eyerdar 10 700 000 Veita 10 700 000 Ocras

>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability: 9/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws

Have an elite spy, the bst spy be sent to the court. Have him say he's the Emperor that has taken form in a new body (or give him a cool mask) and have him run the show til we find the real one?

How would you go about setting this trap?
>G.Research science

G.Research science

Not sure yet, it's just a concept right now that I was putting out there. Hopefully I and a few other anons can hammer out the details, as for using the emperor were not secure enough in knowing what happened to him to try that.

G. lets do more research in physics and chemistry.

>G.Research science
How about we research ways that the car can be made cheaply so everyone in our country can have one.

i dont think that will be as useful as working towards nuclear power and stuff, there are better things to use our votes for i think.

Choose two scientific areas
A.Industrial technology
B.Transportation
C.Electrical engineering
D.Chemistry
E.Physics
F.Military
G.Navy
H.Other

Ok so here goes, we set up some kind of new commite with extreme power, within our own government of course, and as those under the noses influence flock to it we spring our trap and grab the. The commite will be blatantly against everything our civ stands for so no true democracy loving northerner will join it and many of the people will be outraged. However the ones under the noses influence will flock to this opportunity to screw over our nation (any ministers caught in the crossfire would have to resign as they did try to seize power illegally). A very risky idea of course but if it works it will set the nose back years and make our own government secure for decades.

G

>B.Transportation
>C.Electrical engineering

C and E.

B, E

Oh shit what'd I miss?

C and A

>C.Electrical engineering
>A.Industrial technology

>Oh shit what'd I miss?
Oh, the usual.

Too risky in too many ways.
I would rather recommend continued conventional intelligence as our safeguard against infiltrators and spies.

F and B

What does the picture mean?

C & B
Cars, telephones, radios have become more affordable and better. They've gotten more widespread, across all continents. Potential for rail transport development has increased as well.
>Population:128 500 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 21 500 000 Eyerdar 10 800 000 Veita 10 800 000 Ocras

>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability: 9/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws

H

H. improve the storm-born and make landing craft for beach invasions.

H. Also create regular coastal patrols via a Coast Guard.

>>H.Improve Navy
Let's improve our navy maybe make aircraft carriers.
So our planes can bomb the NPU islands by sea.