Jumpchain CYOA Thread #825: Coal Into Diamonds Edition

Considering Life Fibers are a species why not just use genetic perks?

Mainly because I grabbed a bunch of tailoring perks and I want to put them to use.

Plus if I could make a benign version then I can give superpower granting clothes to people. I know there are perks to just give people powers, but I like being thematic.

I meant use genetic perks to remake the Life Fibers.

Not doing threadly updates now or anything but figured as the newest version is not yet in the drive I should amend and clarify some of the stuff that's come up. Giants reward is explained better in notes, as is the import stuff. Pets can now be imported. Eunuch and The Unworthy are now mutually exclusive.

Oh, whoops. That will work, just got to find the resources now, thanks.

HEADING INTO TWILIGHT, SPREADING OUT HER WINGS TONIGHT

>While those will help controlling Life Fibers, they don't help with the actual recreation of them.
Nooooo they won't and yes they will, respectively. It's not about somehow applying your self-specific toggle to others, it's about applying your self-specific toggle to certain perks that stand in the way of doing it.

On a side note I recommend researching their DNA in Kill La Kill if you have the chance. Mostly since it gives you more data available than if you just study the life fiber items.

What kind of enemies piss you off the most, Jumpers?

Dodge tanks.
Little fuckers just won't sit still long enough for me to blast them.

Other Jumpers. Vicious fuckers.

The kind with emotion manipulation and no sense of self preservation.

So, Overlord jump question. If I took Level 100 and Dark Wisdom as a Magic Caster and converted D&D spells to YGGDRASIL magic and then tried to fight Momonga, what would happen if I cast Mage's Disjunction? It states you gain a 1% chance every caster level to destroy all enemy magic items (up to and including artifacts) and as a level 100 character, technically I would have a 100% chance of doing so... Would this work or am I wanking way too hard?

Disney was like, jump #100something, WAY before our messiah gig. We weren't even a collective consciousness back then. Hey, everyone has old shames in their past right?

Also, the kind who plays by his own rules and thus one of the few candidates able to truly relate to demonic converts.

>perks

Xenobiology and Reverse Engineering, XCOM

Biosynthetics and Chromosome Analysis Specialist, Biomega

The entire Former Assistant perkline from Street Sharks

Last Hope and Artificial Parasites from Skullgirls, if you feel able to adapt those techniques to Life Fibers

Parasitologist and Project W from Resident Evil, especially with the Hypnos Gene

Biotechnician from Posleen Wars

>resources

Progenitor Crystals from EVO, if you don't mind budding Life Fibers from yourself

A Geneforge is always handy

You can pick up a Pharmaceutical Company in Resident Evil for mo' supplies

The Slab, from Legacy of the Aldenata

A good stock of plasmids and/or the parasitic slugs from Bioshock could help

Thanks for the suggestions. Hmm.

1. Interesting suggestion. On the one hand, as written seems to only work on HUMAN concepts according to the wiki. On the other hand, IS capable of elevating humans into something surpassing the planet with other things boosting it. We have eyes of those at A+++ as well as being a Page of Void so-worth tinkering with, at least.

2. Good question, the inside of the Brahmastra certainly seems to suggest it CAN be forged into some sort of complex infrastructure. Not sure if it even has any capabilities for actualising concepts though; mantra is really more like a kind of ki.

3. Isn't it an explicitly scientific psychic ability? This being viable really hinges on whether it's possible to think wholly new concepts into being with something like the Imaginary Numbers District, which IIRC is more the Magic Side's thing.

4. Pretty much. Cards on the table-we still have no idea what we're doing in Digimon.

With in the wake of Civil War, is the MCU Jump in need of an update? What about when Doctor Strange come out, and the cosmic shit gets involved again?

I think Red was planning to hold off until at least Avengers 3 beacuse at this rate there's just going to be so much new stuff.

Besides, I watched it today and-without spoiling anything I can safely say nothing sticks out as being worthy of added, really.

I just used the Terra Formar's import option to be a Life Fiber Mosaic, then got the second mosaic of Bagworm Moth. You literally just start producing whole bundles of the stuff on demand.

Sure you miss out on a few other options and you'll likely be told you're doing it wrong, but when you yourself are the producer and you start undergoing all kinds of nifty genetic modification, no one really stops to understand what that means for the Life Fibers you produce.

You are the best, thank you! Especially for the resources; I want to be an ethical mad scientist, as much as such a thing can exist.

Until the Black Panther movie and they expend on Wakanda (hopefully).

Sup /jc/

What does the inside of your cosmic warehouse look like?

The main portion of the warehouse is just a standard warehouse. Anything truly important is in one of my many astral/outerplanar fortresses behind a fuckton of traps.

Like a warehouse. But, you know, cosmic.

Nah, but for real, it's a cluttered mess. About the only things that are organized are the go-racks near the door. The shelves are littered with random artifacts, and there are a bunch of boxes full of Pokeballs scattered around.

In other words, if you've ever seen Warehouse 13, it looks like that. Except with a slightly less chance of knocking over something that can kill you.

Mine may or may not have been taken over by a dragon. They is useless gold coins and gems everywhere.

>The shelves are littered with random artifacts
You really should keep those organized. I keep mine in boxes labeled "Artifacts" and "Artifacts (dangerous)."

*there

I don't know, I could see a new drawback where this one special forces guy is somehow able to ruin your life because muh determination. I seriously loved that movie, but fuck was the villain stupid.

I'm a jumper.
That's how I protect against random intruders in my safe space. And also bugs.

Which movie?

It...well...it's a high-tech basement split up into two different rooms:
- The Armoury
- The Engineering Bay

It's also a Medical Bay on the top floor of the building that has the Bath House.

It's just weird, the World Seed got involved and next thing I knew, the little house in the corner of a massive warehouse became a home in the middle of a foggy area that imitated the world I found myself on.

Still not sure if Jump-chan was angry at me for that or not. All I know is, she's getting along WAAAAY too well with Schrodinger.

Civil War. The villain is an ex-Sokovian (because of fucking course he is) Spec Ops who lost his family in Ultron's attack, so he decides to make the Avengers destroy each other as revenge, using the conflict over Bucky as a trigger.

After all the aesthetic perks, the default changes are actually pretty minimalistic. We actually like the bleak concrete; the main changes have really been redistributing the lighting to have some parts of the Warehouse have absolutely no shadows, and other parts left in darkness to conceal just how thoroughly space and time have been meant in those regions to hold the Imaginary Numbers-pockets.That and different kinds of concrete-like surface arranged in a sort of mosaic divided by red-shifted light beams.

Also there usually isn't a deconstructed Safeguard/Chim/Fatima/Cyber Elf being probed for information dangling on the wall.

Same here. That said-I have to say Zemo is legimitely the most intimidating and successful MCU villain thus far. I've noticed the more powerful they are individually like Malekith and Ronan, the more vulnerable they are to getting humiliated with slapstick

I'm legitimately worried I'm going to end up remembering Zemo being more menacing than Thanos

depends where you are in it, the entrance room is a lounge club with a lot of doors, pillars and stairs with solid Australium murals lining the walls, nothing that would give away its nature except for what comes out of the water fountains, the colossal PC set up, and the cut Tanzanite platform the size of a small car that dominates the center of the chamber and the bright red spectral containment unit. the real weird stuff is off to the side and in the basement, the upper floors which I made by using that one perk from God of war to take some of the height off the tower and move it into the warehouse proper are mainly pallets of exotic materials or examples of technology I haven't been able to figure out how to replicate, or cultural/historical artifacts valued because they are old or historically significant. Some of the side doors lead to my companion's apartments, the various specialty rooms, and storage facilities for ships and giant killer robots, another leads to the tower where I keep my Zurg hive, University of Toronto and library of Alexandria.

The basement has a lot of grow lights and serves as a greenhouse for golden apple trees

The last time that I was present, at least, Red asked that question, it was a big empty room.

It is now a grassy meadow. Still empty.

So... no registration act? I knew it was going to have trouble since they can't use the m-word, but I didn't think they'd just make shit up to replace it.

I don't think that long. We got Dr. Strange coming later this year, GOTG 2 ('17), Spiderman: Homecoming ('17), Thor: Rag ('17), Black Panther ('18), Avengers 3, Pt.1 ('18), Antman & Wasp ('18). TV series wise we'll have Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones S2, & Defenders (hopefully) by end of '17.

Honestly I think there could be enough material by end of '17, but it's up to Red to decide what's enough is enough. time will tell.

I want to steal BP's suit, because it's sick as fuck.

inb4 he follows you out of the jump to retrieve it, that dude had no chill.

>Thanks for the suggestions. Hmm.

Your welcome.

> Interesting suggestion. On the one hand, as written seems to only work on HUMAN concepts according to the wiki. On the other hand, IS capable of elevating humans into something surpassing the planet with other things boosting it. We have eyes of those at A+++ as well as being a Page of Void so-worth tinkering with, at least.

I suppose that would be an issue.

Oh also on a side note your KnK jump is chronologically implausible.

>3. Isn't it an explicitly scientific psychic ability? This being viable really hinges on whether it's possible to think wholly new concepts into being with something like the Imaginary Numbers District, which IIRC is more the Magic Side's
thing.

While their considered part of the science since the magic powers are more scientific.

>4. Pretty much. Cards on the table-we still have no idea what we're doing in Digimon.

The big bad of Tamers the D-Reaper basically well you when it comes to evolution but worse, except on a smaller scale, and more hypocritical.

Basically it's a data clean up program that grew past it's limits, mutated into a digital eldritch horror, noticed their was an entire world of data, ended up being an apocalyptic threat to it, escaped to the human world, noticed that modern humans grew past their original state, basically went "You evolved and that's bad.", and then used some kids despair to evolve into an even worse digital eldritch horror.

Although if your going to consider modifying your digimon jump to get stuff to use for the experiment I'd recommend taking some of the Digi-Spirits instead of a partner.

Alternatively taking one of the Code Keys with the excuse of 'Digital God things decided "Hey their leaving in ten years we can get rid of this", or something like that.

Mostly since it gives you access to a data thing to upgrade, and you don't have to worry about issues like 'Is this a companion or not?'

Actually. it's really great how they avoided that. The first twenty minutes makes you think they'll do something like that, but when the meeting to sign the thing takes place, the villain bombs the building while disguised as Bucky, shifting the plot to a manhunt for him. After that the oversight becomes a background thing, it's honestly the best thing they could have done.

A warehouse. Lots of stuff on the wall - posters from different places, weird shit I've found and items I got for free but never use. Bed in one of the corners.

Workshop, lab, kitchen and bathroom I had to knock together myself/get a very confused plumber in to do. Stasis pod gathering dust.

Chests of treasure, wardrobes full of doomsday devices, a small spaceship, couple of motorbikes and cars, lot of guitars, y'know the usual.

Mother Base. I'd carved up the warehouse as much as I could and that ceiling just wasn't getting any lower. Lots of room to grow, lots of natural compartmentalization due to the struts. The featureless plane isn't great, but I'm hoping to land in Bioshock so I can try siphoning the ocean. If Dark City can do it...

Oh, a question about the Wuxia Jump, I rolled and got the Three Kingdoms Era, could I fanwank it as being Dynasty Warriors-style Three Kingdoms? Or must I stick to the source material?

Another Blame! Question: does the net sphere count as a public network for the purposes of something like administrator access from kid radd? My understanding is It was intended to be public eventually but got locked down because silicon life and other people unleased netchaos and the builders went haywire.

I don't see a Dynasty Warriors jump, so go nuts. Lü Bu that shit.

I used FF7's "any spinoff" flaw to jump into Smash instead so I'm not gonna judge.

True. I just know everyone will be bringing their A-Game in Avengers 3 so I'd understand holding off until then for when things really escalate.

>BP's suit

...really? I dunno, the suit didn't really do it for me. Didn't even seem to really give him any new powers apart from the adamantium spikes, and I got the impression BP didn't even really need the suit to kick everyone's ass

>KnK (jump #42) is chronologically implausible

What do you mean by this?

>esper

True; problem is more that it's unclear exactly what an Imaginary Numbers district is capable of at this stage and whether it can meaningfully interact with things other than magic and Personal Realities.

>mutate
>Code KEys

Huh.

Nah, it's a little too late to change that jump up. Besides, we're looking to try something that will need quite a lot of finesse. Programs that can mutate into homicidal monsters sound like a bad idea for designing reliable, resilient software.

The suit basically makes him stronger, faster, and tougher. He dominates Bucky, and fights on equal grounds with Capt. Despite having no powers other than kicking ass without the suit. Imagine the suit, combined with Peak Asgardian. How dope that would be.

>What do you mean by this?

To start you arrived in 1996 which means Shiki just went into or is about to go into her two year coma.

Meanwhile the events that lead to Fujino's murder spree don't occur till after Shiki leaves her coma, but the reason you gave for destroying the rest of the Asagami family occurred way before that.

This means Fujino is unlikely to go on said murder spree do to your interference. Which means the conflict with Shiki was unlikely to occur.

Meanwhile the main reason Shiki even knew to go after her is because her father hired Touko to assassinate her.
This makes those events even less likely to make sense.

Your probably still going to end up meeting the main characters though, but that's mostly because Fujino is friends with Azaka Kokutou a.k.a. Mkiya's sister, and because Araya is targeting both you and Shiki.

However basically unless something really weird is going on, or you spent two years staring at a wall a significant part of your KNK jump is really damn unlikely.

However if you don't want to have to change too much to fix this I can think of a solution to the fact that you have Shiki as an enemy.

You can just make it the Shiki from her Melty Blood route that was summoned by Alaya.

This has the advantage of the fact that unlike the normal version Melty Blood Shiki lacks a lot of her redeeming qualities because Alaya gave them so little information they think the situation is just some dream. Which makes her even scarier.

>Nah, it's a little too late to change that jump up. Besides, we're looking to try something that will need quite a lot of finesse. Programs that can mutate into homicidal monsters sound like a bad idea for designing reliable, resilient software.

To clarify the D-Reaper isn't a digimon, but an entirely different type of reality distorting data life form.

Then again while the Digital World itself is rather stable digimon themselves might react to emotions too much.

It does? In that case-damn. It didn't look nearly as bulky as, say, Tony's so I assumed that was natural super strength/speed he was using; I've never read a Black Panther comic in my life. If it does, that thing's /incredibly/ efficient for being able to do what it does

Speaking of other confusing powerlevels, sometimes Scarlet Witch's TK seems like it's as strong as the plot needs it to be. One minute she's struggling to project away a bomb's blast, the next she smashes Vision through a building and implicitly shut down his density manipulation somehow

Note: His suit is made from vibranium.

>Scarlet Witch's TK seems like it's as strong as the plot needs it to be
True to the comics then.

Got a question about the Persona Jump, why isn't there an option to be a Fool? I would think that a Jumper would be a perfect fit for the role.

Probably the same reason half of the arcana are locked behind a perk despite there being no real benefit to using any of the arcana over any others aside from the few special ones. Arbitrary restrictions for no real reason.

Balance, mostly.

Though I think it'd be funny to have the Fool character and the Jumper tries to outprotag each other.

...

...huh. It's been a while since I've watched the movies. Must've gotten the dates wrong.

If her murder-spree didn't yet happen then-it's quite possible WE went on a murder-spree against the rest of our family preemptively for bringing about the conditions for the risk of it to happen-and those asshole kids, just to be sure. In which case Shiki could have been investigating the mysterious death of almost the entire Fujino family and hunted us down, leading to mutual accusations of hypocrisy, death threats and a slap fight escalating into cosmic shankings.

Not to mention since Araya was targetting both of us he could well have tried to pull something on our sister to lure us out at the time.

Isn't Melty Blood a Tsukihime property, not Knk? But yeah, if the above doesn't work let's go with that. Just means the Void feud started in Tsukihime. Probably had the same mutual YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG reaction on first sight.

>the D-Reaper isn't a digimon

Ah, so it's more like a really buff MMZ Cyber Elf? I'm not quite sure what the distinction is though, other than this D-Reaper seems to be artificially produced whereas I think Digimon are just kind of...there. In the digiworld.

I'm really, really not a Digimon buff.

It would be blatantly the best option. Then again, making the jumper the fool from the outset might have worked.

Pretty much this, that's why I asked. It's the only reason why I'd Jump into Persona.

If not Fool, what's the best Arcana for a Jumper, anyway?

Like a normal warehouse that I've divided into a warehouse, a armoury, a material sample room, a kitchen, a workshop, a film room, and a computer lab. Inside my office, there is a computer which I can use to control the Biosphere and run Sburb: Warehouse edition.

Basically, it's because the Fool Arcana isn't just the Protagonist Arcana, it's also what gives them the ability to change their Persona and create new ones. It's immensely stronger than any other Arcana.

There actually is a reason here too. In the newer games, all characters and all the shadows have been Magician through Hanged Man. Teddie is the only exception, and he's a Shadow. If that changes in P5 I'll remove that restriction.

The fool is not the wild card. The Fool is just an arcana like any other arcana.

>In the newer games, all characters and all the shadows have been Magician through Hanged Man
But that's...that's wrong. Like, blatantly wrong. Every Persona game has a character for every arcana and persona for all of them too.

Pretty sure the Wildcard ability is not the Fool arcana man. It's related to it and generally shared but they're not identical and you can easily just say you can have Fool Persona/Arcana and not have the Wildcard ability.

>In which case Shiki could have been investigating the mysterious death of almost the entire Fujino family and hunted us down, leading to mutual accusations of hypocrisy, death threats and a slap fight escalating into cosmic shankings.

Maybe, but honestly I'm not sure she'd give a damn. This is the person who spent all her time moping about wanting to kill stuff, while being horrible at actually doing so. No seriously the only person she actually killed was that cannibal Lio.

This includes a psychic mad bomber that went after her because she saw him doing mad bomber stuff.

>Not to mention since Araya was targetting both of us he could well have tried to pull something on our sister to lure us out at the time.

Oh this reminds me of another issue. If the conflict still occurs the sixth movie is likely to be a major problem for you if you don't change things. Mostly since it has Touko sending Shiki to help investigate something at the school Fujino went to. Said something being the user of the Unified Language and also a teacher giving someone memory stealing invisible fake-fairies.

>Isn't Melty Blood a Tsukihime property, not Knk? But yeah, if the above doesn't work let's go with that. Just means the Void feud started in Tsukihime. Probably had the same mutual YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG reaction on first sight.

One of the later games had a Shiki Ryougi route that can basically be summarized as "Shiki Ryougi thinks she'd having a weird dream, gets into a lot of fights, Arcuied shows up as Archetype Earth, Ryougi notices her lack of death, Archetype Earth basically says Gaia and Alaya decided to have them fight for control of the world or something like that, and Ryougi still doesn't seem to realize she's not dreaming'.

>Ah, so it's more like a really buff MMZ Cyber Elf?

They actually don't really explain the different non-digimon data life forms that well. Just that they don't follow the same 'pattern' (for lack of a better term) as digimon do.

Have to butt in here, that reasoning for the restriction makes zero sense. All the games have social links/characters/shadows for all arcana, that's kind of the point. Even if you were trying to say it was just playable characters it's still wrong because several of the allowed arcana are from npc's instead of the main characters (At the very least I know the Strength and Hanged Man ones aren't main characters in the newer games. Speaking of, isn't the jumper meant to include the older games too? Why use only the newer ones as reasoning?).

When you say "recreate," do you mean making knockoffs from scratch or just growing them en mass?

If it is the latter, you just need to get some integrated with your body and then grab something like Broodmother from SCP, or a symbiote from Symbiote. Then you can just eat snacks and pop out bundles all day long. Technically, if you have a high enough pain tolerance and a lot of patience you could just pull some out of your body and regenerate it over time (like Senketsu did to recover from the blinding trick he and Ryuuko pulled on Sanageyama), but that's not really sustainable.

Antispiral's got the right ideas about redesigning them, though.

Are you going to answer any of the responses? It's been about half an hour now.

Holy shit dude, be patient. Not everyone is on the thread every minute of every hour of every day.

A little column A a little column B.

Recreating from scratch it appealing to me because it means I can create a friendly variant, but it also means a higher chances for unwanted variables and will prolly take time to get right.

On the other hand the Broodmother sounds like a easy and cheap production solutions, but then Id have to deal with it being the original world eating kind unless I mess with the Life Fiber DNA to begin with.

Honestly Im going to just take all these ideas and put them in a blender and see what comes out.

The first one was posted just 3 minutes after his last post. It seems pretty patient to calmly ask again after half an hour of waiting since the first post.

As much as I liked this idea back when TF first came out, with how the plot's gone I... can you blame me for waiting to see how it ends first?

A giant flying island, hovering over a perfectly still endless ocean, which reflects the alien, eternally night sky, with its uncountable multi-colored stars and ever shifting moon. The world is filled with beautiful gardens and soft ethereal music, the architecture seemingly taken from the Kingdom of Heaven itself. And above it all stands a golden, impossibly tall tower, giving a truly overwhelming impression of ancient glory, and unspeakable eldritch power.

If you can’t tell I really dig Red’s warehouse upgrades.

It's a cave. Interior decorations change depending on what type of music we're playing at the moment, but the bar's always solid.

Why? Don't tell me the Mosaic Organs are in fact and the true masterminds behind the Johj, the Chinese and the Romas now.

It turns out the Wildcard Ability is something that can be used by those of the Fool Arcana, and that it is possible to become a Fool as Aigis managed it.

As for the how, when, and why; it was never really explored outside the fact that, yes, it is possible.

>I... can you blame me for waiting to see how it ends first?
...okay yeah I admittedly have to accept defeat to that logic. It just seemed like a pretty easy way to go about it since the more a Jumper progresses, the higher quality it gets. Plus all the other perks people have given would give you more customization but... yeah TF really is like Toriko lately isn't it.

Well I'm glad someone's making good use of them!

Spoiler Warning: The Warehouse options aren't getting old anytime soon.

So just say Fool's can't learn it. Problem solved. People can be the Fool, get Fool persona and there's no Wildcard shenanigans. It's not the first time a problematic ability is dealt with like that in JC.

Well, if you want to get started quick, consider that Senketsu was made friendly by cutting his Life Fiber genetics with human DNA (specifically, Ryuuko's). The Cadmus blueprints from Young Justice can help you get the Human/Fiber ratio right if you don't think Isshin's research alone is enough.

In Persona 3 and afterwards, it's the Fool that has the unlimited potential necessary to create new Persona. Igor specifically says as much, and we also see the two wild cards who gain the ability in the series (Aigis in The Answer and Elizabeth after the end of The Arena) changing to the Fool Arcana.

Correction - there's a character for every Social Link. But we know from Aeon that a character's social link and their Arcana don't need to be the same. Meanwhile, there's only one playable character with an Arcana outside of the 0-XII paradigm (Teddie), and the only enemies with an Arcana outside that paradigm are either Final Boss-tier or Optional Superboss-tier. It fits with the Fool's Journey as well - Death splits the Fool's Journey, where he transitions from his old self to a new one.

I've been out and about, mate. That last post was before I got in the car, and I don't love you all enough to post on Veeky Forums while I'm driving.

...I'm not Wild Card user.

Oh I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying at all, but I do not want to die a roach-y death.

Please don't jinx us with a Terra Formars-Toriko crossover event.
I can't handle Gourmet Johj.

Something almost identical to the Wildcard ability was also used by non-Fool Arcana Persona users in the first two (or three if the two Persona 2 games as separate games) Persona games.

On the first part, see . It's an easy to fix problem.

On the second see for why the 'playable character' justification falls apart and remember that Aeon is really not representative of a normal social link. Saying that it works because it fit's the 'Fool's Journey' makes no sense either, because you can't be a Fool in the jump as is so that's irrelevant. Most importantly, it means that Jumper's might not be able to choose an Arcana that does fit them, which seems like a far more important thing then half hearted excuses about it fitting the settings theme or something (Which as explained above, it doesn't)

>Gourmet Johj.
I don't think I have a picture to accurately describe my fear.

I will try anyway.

>But we know from Aeon that a character's social link and their Arcana don't need to be the same.
But Marie's persona is an Aeon persona and her social link is the Aeon Arcana too??

Im not sure how I feel about that because as far as I can tell it is always what gave Senketsu human intelligence and morality.

While it would be awesome that the super empowering clothes I give people would be able to work with their host, there is something sketchy about creating sentient life only for them to be used as a tool.

Christ this took way, way too long. Enjoy friends

And here is the companion supplement. Everything in this and the jump itself are subject to change, especially the price of these companions.

...

Well this is going to be awkward for the Eyebrows who started making one.

You've... been gone for quite a while, haven't you?

Eyebrows picked it up and has been working on it. ...maybe this is a good time to try and talk it over. I dunno. Something. I really hope there's a civil discussion so you two could figure something out instead of people suddenly jumping down either of your throats over some petty popularity contest.