What did RPG nerds roleplay dwarves as BEFORE the Fellowship of the Ring movie came out and popularized Gimli as the...

What did RPG nerds roleplay dwarves as BEFORE the Fellowship of the Ring movie came out and popularized Gimli as the ur-dwarf?

Gimli.

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This.

Yep

I love Veeky Forums sometimes.

Gimli was already the ur-dwarf. Your stereotypical dnd dwarf has always been an axe wielding warrior who's pigheaded and touchy but unfailingly loyal.

What Jackson's Fellowship contributed is that overnight all dwarves became Scottish.

Gimli predates DnD, son.

Scottish dwarves were already a thing before the lotr movies. Warcraft had em.

What were Humans played like before LOTR

They were all oily barbarians with a zweihander/battleax in hand and a lady in a bikini at their feet.

Aah, the good old days. When men were Conan, and villains were shapeshifting snake men.

Good times, when men everywhere where hacked to death by Conan and women used as sheaths

Well you had four flavors : a fighter, a theif, a wizard and a cleric.

That's a Dwarf? I even if it's supposed to a loli she needs to be at least twenty percent thicker.

She wouldn't be a loli then.

>She

I-I'm pretty sure that's a skirt! B-boys can't be that c-c-cute!

and Evillak

...

Of course they can. Even you can!

>loli dwarfs
>brown elves
>katana wielding edgelord weaboos
Japan has been nothing but a menace to ttrpgs

Oh and dogbolds, fuck the nips

Dogbolds are better than the Veeky Forums fetish trashbolds.

Kobolds were normal monster race until D&D made it canon they deepthroat dragons...

Of course, I'm a raging shotacon so I always knew that

Meh, they're both trash imho

Yeah but one is trash, and the other is trash leaking juices everywhere and ruining everything they touch.

are we talking /ss/ or the "regular" kind?

>touch the cow, do it now.jpg
Also I somehow don't think it's either of the fantasy species who has been leaking juices while you typed that.

I was complaining about the trash fetishbolds.
Because yeah, dogbolds are dumb, but they don't ruin the game. People fetishizing about the shitty little lizardpeople do ruin the game.

>trash fetishbolds.
So, dogbolds.

What. I mean I guess furries are pretty annoying too, but I've never had any problems with them on Veeky Forums.
It's the fuckers who shitpost about EGG BEARING HIPS and pretend that kobolds aren't even worse than goblins when it comes to being vermin that deserve to be wiped out.

>D&D made it canon they deepthroat dragons

It was the fetish-fags extrapolating from a section where they mentioned that kobolds are vermin who eat anything possible and have no gag-reflex to fit more stuff in their mouth, and then several lines later talk about them doing anything to please their Draconic lords.

Not disbelieving you, but I'd really like a screen cap so I can be even more glad I don't play D&D anymore.

Sorry, don't have it, since I'm the one complaining about kobolds. Don't want any of their shit tainting my hard drive.

Makes sense. I'll see if I can find it myself.

Seriously though, no gag reflex? Fuck.

I'd imagine it works kinda like that

Not the other guy, but I'm looking for it now. Prior to 3e, no relation to dragons at all. 3.X has them speak Draconic, but no other relation. 4e has them revere dragons and form cults about them. 5e has similar.

The 'kobolds serving dragons' thing first appears in the 2e box set Dragon Mountain, where a red dragon has a bunch of kobold tribes fighting to be favoured by it, but that wasn't an 'all kobolds' thing until 4e.

Not even PF's Bestiary has them with no gag reflex, so it must come from some supplement somewhere.

Getting deepthroated doesn't even feel good anyway. It's a little strange, and certainly not worth it.

You'd think a Dragon would want something better from their mortal servants.

Thanks user.

Regular. There's nothing cuter than two little boys lewdly embracing each other.

/ss/ though is perfectly fine

Is that Matsu-sensei's art?

I love his shota, a shame that he does nothing but /ss/ with cowtits. I love cowtits and don't mind /ss/ but a shota that cute is being wasted...

/ss/ is the best possible context for a shota though, you degenerate.

fair enough

/ss/ is okay but shotas were made for each other, user. Don't deny the truth.

That's a brother and sister pair though. They just trade identities on the regular.

EEEEEEEEEEEEVILAAAAAK!

Not that user, but found it.

Actually their real genders are never confirmed. So you can imagine whatever you want...

>mfw it is confirmed

What book is this from?

>What did RPG nerds roleplay dwarves as BEFORE the Fellowship of the Ring movie came out and popularized Gimli as the ur-dwarf?
You've got it backwards, the depiction of Gimbli in the LotR movies is actually based off the typical RPG dwarf, rather than the other way around.

The typical RPG dwarf was in turn something of a distillation of the dwarf characters from all of Tolkein's fantasy stories, perhaps moreso the Hobbit than the LotR's novels. (Thorin is probably more the ur-dwarf than Gimbli, I believe.)

The movie version of Gimli is very much filtered through the popular sentiment of how a fantasy dwarf should look and act.

Like hell.
Little boys were made to be molested by older girls.

>Well you had four flavors : a fighter, a theif, a wizard and a cleric.
Not so! You just had fighting man and magician.
The finer granulations came afterwards.

>rpg nerds
>the movie

I don't know who the fuck you think you're talking to, but all the dwarves in D&D have been Gimli for like 40 years now. If somebody was somehow familiar with D&D but not with LoTR, they would have seen Gimli in the movie and said, "Look, a D&D dwarf".

How far back are you going? The cleric dates from
'74 in an RPG sense.

Boy love is pure love.

It will never be the purest love.

>How far back are you going? The cleric dates from
>'74 in an RPG sense.
well, "before LOTR" is 1955 at the latest

Depends on what LotR we're talking about.

And the cleric, as in 'holy man with magical powers that aren't powered by knowledge' is pretty fucking old.

>And the cleric, as in 'holy man with magical powers that aren't powered by knowledge' is pretty fucking old.
I'd say it's about as old as civilization.

About 2000 years ago it became really popular.

Their love may be pure, but it lacks user's greatest desire. Cocks.

There is nothing pure about older women and girls preying on young boys. They lust after them to fulfill their sick desires.

Two boys lovingly embracing each other, however, is nothing but the purest love, even if they lewdly buttfuck each other later.

I bet you unironically watch boku no pico

I liked the first two episodes. Pretty boring though, might as well just read a doujin/h-manga on sadpanda.

Animated porn is rarely worth the effort.

Blame Salvatore.
By my research, Bruenor Battlehammer is the Patient Zero for the Scottish-accented Dwarf. Flint Fireforge is probably the most notable dwarf character in DnD stuff prior to Bruenor, and he didn't have the accent.
(There may be another 'missing link' out there between Flint and Bruenor that I'm not aware of, but as far as I know, you can blame 'The Crystal Shard' for this shit.)

>These small, evil dog-like men usually live underground. They have scaly, rust-brown skin and no hair.
-Direct Quote from the Basic Boxed Set
Kobolds have been described with both lizard and dog traits since long before we gave a crap about Japan, user.
It was later (bad) writers who decided that they needed to be simplified into tinier lizard-men. For some fucking reason.

> getting deepthroated doesn't feel good

The fuck, man? That shit feels great. ESPECIALLY when they gag.

And this is why shotafags are the cancer.

>implying d&d invented kobolds
>implying being hairless doesn't disqualify 99% of dogbolds

There's literally nothing wrong with straight shota as long as the onee-san is willing to wait until her cute little boy has reached the legal age of consent.

And there is nothing wrong with scat fans indulging in their fetish in the confines of their own homes, but you don't see them shitting up (pardon the pun) a thread every time feces is mentioned. Don't act like neo-furries and insert your fetish were it doesn't belong.

There's everything wrong with shitting up threads just for the sake of your degenerate fetish.

The thread started with a picture of a cute boy and we've basically exhausted the original discussion, might as well derail it now.

>boy
user, if you actually bothered to do a simple google image search, you would have found out it's a girl.

>implying d&d invented kobolds
Hmm, good point. Hey, Wiki! What you got to say about Kobolds?
>The kobold (occasionally cobold) is a sprite stemming from Germanic mythology and surviving into modern times in German folklore.
>Although usually invisible, a kobold can materialize in the form of an animal, fire, a human being, and a candle. The most common depictions of kobolds show them as humanlike figures the size of small children. Kobolds who live in human homes wear the clothing of peasants; those who live in mines are hunched and ugly; and kobolds who live on ships smoke pipes and wear sailor clothing.
Hmm, you don't say. So, they're still not fucking lizard men? Good to know.

Were did you see someone claiming they were?

>Getting deepthroated doesn't even feel good anyway.
Maybe it's because I have a tiny dick (not even quite 5"), but it feels pretty good especially in a 69 position and she's cumming and moaning with your cock in her throat.

I've heard that the Scottish dwarf accent comes form Paul Anderson's 'Three hearts and three lions,' though I've not yet read it myself.

I read that book just a few months ago, and it does indeed feature a Scottish dwarf. (Not just a dwarf with a Scottish accent, but a dwarf of Scottish ancestry.)

It's also the origin of the regenerating Troll, and was likely an influence on the "holy avenger" style magic sword for paladins.

>I'd say it's about as old as civilization.

The original four classes were Fighter (Gilgamesh), Barbarian (Enkidu), Cleric (Utnapishtim) and Whore (Shamhat).

4e Kobolds were just core version of what Kobolds became during 3.X. 3.5 supplements are where the Kobolds as inherently draconic beings really took off.

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Just came here to say that.

Shamhat was just a Female Cleric. Like, literally.

So much ignorance in one OP...

This is true. 3.x gave them their current physical appearance, and then there were progressively more and more hints that they had some connection to dragons, and then the 'Races of the Dragon' supplement made it official. It's actually quite a good write up.

That's what the other guy says.

>what were RPG dwarfs like
>before shitty movies
>being this millennial

The Hobbit was published in the dim pre-internet age the Greatest Generation called the 1930s, snowflake.

Gimli.

>What did RPG nerds roleplay dwarves as BEFORE the Fellowship of the Ring movie came out and popularized Gimli as the ur-dwarf?
Gimli from Lord of the Rings the book series.
Or the old animated Movie that was pretty awesome.

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>that lone Curie
Is that the inspiration behind Bilbo?
Also she didn't really do shit, it's just that her hubby was nice enough to share the success with her.

next to gandalf and Saruman

The first two are God's gift to Japan and by proxy to us. The third is not even of Japan's own making but our own.

Kid, are you allowed to be on the internet unsupervised?

fellowship came out like 15 years ago bud

So in other words, no, OP is NOT allowed to be on the internet unsupervised.

Maybe OP joined the hobby "recently" and is also a grown ass man.
Nice meme though. Wish I had a bait image on my phone.

you would think a grown ass man, new to the hobby, might be able to do a little god damn research aka a 3 second google search and realize that, hey, maybe this trope from a game made in the 70's ISNT based on a movie made in the 00's