Adeptus Titanicus Returning

From a conversation Recalcitrant Daze had with Andy Hoare, Mark Bedford, and Chris Drew at Warhammerfest 2016

>The game is set during the Horus Heresy in the spirit of the original Adeptus Titanicus.

>It will begin with just Titans.

>The scale will be 8mm - They decided on this scale after 3D printing a Marine, Dread, Leman Russ, Warlord and a Mastodon in three different scales.

>8mm was deemed the best as you could see the details to the point of telling different armor marks apart but didn't make the Titans too big.

>8mm will make a Warlord around 6" tall (that's what it looked like when Andy Hoare put his hands apart, don't blame me if the final model is smaller or larger...).

>The models will be produced in resin by Forge World.

>Typical force may be in the region of two Warlords, two Reavers and two-three Warhounds.

>More Titan variants are possible.

>Down the road infantry and tanks are to be introduced.

>Other forces are also possible, this includes Xenos which can be introduced in a themed expansion, e.g. Adeptus Titanicus: Armageddon to bring in the Orks.

>Currently the Titans are being 3D modeled by Chris Drew, the Warlord has been done as the 40k version was originally 3D modeled so it was a case of just scaling things down and getting it to work as a model which can be manufactured.

>We may, may, get to see something at the Forge World Open Day...(may, depending on Tony Cottrell)

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A downsized 3D copy of FW's Warlord Titan, from 2015.

Wasn't old Epic 6mm? Kinda dickish move imo. But at least is something.

Not really much a surprise, they already pretty much said that Epic was going to return at the last Horus Heresy Weekender and that it would be a different size.

Most of the Forumware stuff is closer to 8mm anyway so I'm looking forward to the larger size.

I've fucking hype.

Going to be the first 40k purchases i've made in yonks.

I wonder if they'll re-release the old multipart space marine

Never played Adeptus Titanicus or Epic, but if I can get a reasonably sized Titan for an equally reasonably price, I'm in.

Why don't they just go get the old molds out of the bin? would save a lot of time IMO

Those old models are dated and don't fit the modern aesthetic of 40k/30k

Because the looked like shit and weren't even in scale to each other.

But principally it's because GW likes to save warehouse and storage costs by destroying their old master molds.

This is why you'll never see Sisters of Battle or Brettonians ever again, barring brand new molds for all of them.

>poor Descent copy
>poor Battletech copy
Kek, GW looks pretty desperate.

I wonder if the grogs of the 80's said the same thing when Titanicus came out.

Oh look, it's the slav shitposter again.

Add to that: can't into 6mm so must invent new scale.

>no proxies for you

And don't forget about FW prices.

If you think Battletech is anything like AT, you're a fucking slav.

oh wait. reported.

How the hell you suppose to assemble that?

FW epic prices were actually really reasonable.

Damn,it sounds cool. A pitty GW is run by a bunch of money-thirsty jewampires and it will cost a kidney.
Well,I hope they'll introduce Knights soon after the release. I don't play 40k,but I like them Knight models but can't afford one; having a small Paladin to put on my desk would be lovely.

GET
FUCKIN
HYPED

I can't wait for affordable large armies to become a thing again with an epic scale game.

very carefully

I remember an amusing warseer blog where the guy shot/scaled the model as if he was painting a regular marine, and everyone thought he was an extremely shitty painter.

Aeronautica prices were atrocious, though. Which has me real fucking salty because they dropped support before I had the spare cash to dump into it.

>GW and FW
>reasonable prices

YOU BEAUTAY

They were. That's why GW shut them down. By the end Forge World we making stuff cheaper than GW that was superior in quality, so of course GW HAD to shut them down.

lmao kill urself my mang

yu0 = fag0rt

My Dad started playing Warhammer with Adeptus Titanicus in 1988.

Neat.

If he stopped the fame and doesn't listento the news about the hobby anymore, you could gift him that. That would be a lovely present for him I'm sure.

Honestly I would love to grab that Warlord just to paint it. I wouldn't be able to get an actual Warlord titan because of how expensive it is, and buying it "just to paint it" would be impractical with such a large model but the AT version would be right up my alley.

This. If they're not too expensive it's probably what I'll do. I always wanted an Epic Warlord, but they put them out of production before I could purchase the old one.

Old epic titans where a different scale from the 6mm infantry before. But really its close enough that it'll probably only matter if you're mixing FW and 3rd party minis.

Same here. I reckon I'll pick one up on release and only get more if it picks up locally.

>How dare you lift me with a single hand!
>I am the Emperor's wrath! I am the death of a million xenos!

what size is epic? i was about to get some of that but might wait for this if the scale is different.

People are saying Epic was 6mm, the reboot will be 8mm.

mmmgay

Do we have any idea of time frame?

I'm presuming this is a next year at the earliest thing.

Start playing now, buy used and forumware, disregard GW unless titans come at usable size and acceptable price.

My thoughts exactly...

>Let's reboot the Epic scale.
>But what about the old players and the second hand market?
>img

>blog where the guy shot/scaled the model as if he was painting a regular marine
Link or more clues?

i remeber it got too the point where a FW strike cruiser was about half the cost of a GW one here in Australia. Shame BFG died not long after that.

eh it's not that big a deal. Old minis will still work, they'll just look odd if mixed in the same stands.

which already was the case with the FW epic next to GW epic

I really like EPIC. I still hold up E:A as the best designed game GW ever put out.

Yet I am completely unexcited by this.

Still trying to work out why but, nope, no feelings of hype or nostalgia-fuel at all from this.

if your FLGS are really gonna complain about a few inches difference
maybe find another FLGS

i am complaining about it, since it will look like shit.

cant mix different scales together.

I'LL TAKE A DOZEN

Any current news/rumors/ideas on the pricing?

$200 per warlord

>cant mix different scales together.
epic has pretty much always been a mess of scales and styles

I'd wait until you see the models before complaining about it, unless you're some kind of purist for one specific release bracket for one specific edition of epic/at/space marine/the ten other names epic has gone under.

I always said Horus Heresy suited Epic. The battles and legions are a much larger scale and who the fuck can be arsed to collect another army of power armoured men?

My only complaint is that I wish they'd gone for 10mm.

You seem to be one of the retards who don't realize they are the same company

Holy shit this might actually make me buy something from GW!

Please tell me I can take those lovely, lovely mars pattern Warhound titans and Lucius pattern Warlords

You will be paying far, far out the ass for it.

>Never declare the Emperor's glory to me or my son again!

>The models will be produced in resin by Forge World.

Dear Chinaman ...

Very good

it's so cute :33

Is this shitposting or did you actually hear this somewhere?

Shitposting

probably shitposting.
but if i where to guess at price i reckon around $100. if a warlord is about 6 inches tall that makes it about the size of a thanatar or Leviathan dreadnought I'm pretty sure, and thats about how expensive those are.

in the same sense that parker brothers and Milton Bradley are the same company because they are both owned by Hasbro.

GW and FW being directly tied to each other is a recent development and even now the forgeworld crew are being kept separate as a design studio, but are given the specialist games as well.

>forumware
This. GW can't into scale for shit. Marines alone were several different scales, not to mention the tanks and titans.
This game is either going to be perfectly in line with "6mm" Epic, or it'll be 10mm or possibly even 12mm, but no chance in hell it's actually going to be 8mm.

Sometime next year, not until after Blood Bowl.

.I can't wait to see the rules for this, I hope it scales well in terms of engagement size. I want to play desperate stands where a Warlord desperately tries to defend a forge against hordes of xenos or traitors.

Something like a minigame to see if you can topple an enemy titan with limited forces. IT would really give the feel of how Titans are described as fighting in the books.

What are the chances the rules aren't changing much?

I'd say pretty high.
Changing the rules would mean both additional effort, and risking alienating the audience they're targeting.

thats promising.
Guess its just a question of if FW will price themselves out like they did with aeronautica.

>based on original Epic rules
Where can I actually look at the original rules for Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine? Someone must have scanned them.

Yeah the Adeptus Titanicus box was my first Games Workshop game. Had to have been 88 or 89. I wonder if any of that stuff is still around at my parents' house.

Well try to think about it from GW's perspective. I hate them as much as the next guy, but I can see why theyd decide to change the scale.

Scribd has a lot if not all of the old rules as pdf files on it, and you can go to Simply Debrid to get them for free if you'd like.

>space marines only
>change in scale to try to fuck over all the 3rd party epic scale minis that have been made over the years and existing model owners

Can't possibly put this in the trash any faster.

They don't destroy their moulds.

>Titan legions=Space marines

Do us all a favor and throw yourself in the trash as well.

I dont think theyre changing the scale 'to fuck everyone over'. Its not unreasonable for them to do this.

going by the devs statements its just an aesthetics thing. like the change too 32mm bases for some 40k minis.
Looks a bit better but on the whole inconsequential.
Epics scale was already messed up enough that this doesn't make old collections or 3rd party stuff incompatible.

It's Games Workshop. It is 100% unquestionably to fuck those people over. Why even pretend it isn't?

I dont think you know anything about Epic, let alone played it. I suspect you're just a retard.

>The game is set during the Horus Heresy in the spirit of the original Adeptus Titanicus.

I wonder if all the stuff they've added to the Horus Heresy will be included, or the Ordinatus engines.

Also, it being 8mm, would it be close enough to 10mm to use terrain in that scale? I was thinking of using the Hawk Wargames paper terrain for beginning games but I'm not sure if it would mesh well.

Guys, wait, wait... what if the company sucked for reasons aaaannnnd it didn't matter if the models were 8mm or 10mm?

Here ya go, this is what I've found for it so far. I can upload some epic stuff if you want it.
mediafire.com/folder/wkfm7emnlzlp5/Adeptus_Titanicus

Not That guy, but thanks. More would be cool.

Alright, give me a bit and I'll update you.

>I wonder if all the stuff they've added to the Horus Heresy will be included, or the Ordinatus engines
well they mentioned testing scale with a mastadon. so yeah seems pretty likely.

and yeah 10mm terrain will work. even 28mm terrain will work if its nature stuff like hills or trees.

Epic is officially 6mm, but the vehicle scale is closer to 3mm.

Alright, here's Epic. Should be good, let me know if there are any errors, there was a brief hiccup in the upload, but I think it alright.

mediafire.com/folder/0cxfqs82tff8t/Epic_Armageddon

>affordable
>Games Workshop

You are so funny, user.

I want one

Other way around, Epic is 'heroic' inflated for 6mm, same way 40k is for 28mm. For example a rhino is like 1.5x the size of a 1:300 M113, and whilst it's a much bigger vehicle to start with, even next to comparable infantry it's chunkier than even the GHQ standard 1:285 model too. Where as 3mm is 1:600 so way smaller. Still, smaller than Battletech's '6mm' which is somewhere nearer to 1:200 these days...

Titans are way out of scale though in every incarnation so far, as at the most consistent size (30 meters for a warlord) they'd need to make Battletech's 10 meter high mechs look closer to Knight miniatures rather than the Warlord size models as they are currently.

It is a right bloody mess really, though honestly it doesn't matter too much until you get up to clearly bigger stuff. 10mm dwarfs 6mm equivalents of the same. A 10mm tank can have as much or more mass to it than a 'heroic' 28mm infantry figure. A 6mm tank will probably have about a torso's worth of the same. Maybe with an arm or leg too if it's big 6mm.

Only the Horus Heresy infantry. The rest is still 6mm, though at least the forumware Titans are true-scale 6mm. The official Titan models were smaller.

Crazy thing - the old metal Warlord Titan is 2.75" tall. The new one will be… 6". That's 40k knight sized. Will it be 40k knight priced??

Follow the links in here. NetEpic GOLD is the ruleset with the most direct lineage to Adeptus Titanicus, but updated. Not as good as Epic Armageddon if you're playing with infantry and tanks, imo, but good for Titans.

sounds like they're going for everything being in scale. a 30m tall warlord at 8mm scale would be 6 inches tall.

A bit more information. In terms of release, Titans will be first, followed by HH. Xenos later.

The people who've said it's going to be 8mm are actually part of the FW Design Studio, one of them is even the head of the Specialist Games Team/Studio.

Thanks

Given how GW prices its big figures, even with stuff like that knights boxed set as an example of the direction it might go, that's probably gonna put the game well out of my price range.

>waaaaah I don't want to buy anything ever again ever. I gave GW money in 1994 and now they owe me.

He means that GW minis aren't actually the scale they say they are.

Splitting a niche audience is a bad idea. Whether this is good or not depends on how big the infantry turns out to be. The vehicles being too big is fine; epic vehicles are too small.