When you play female characters do you actually roleplay them, or you just play them like "a man with tits"?

All the porn and fetish-bait aside, I think is a much better example. I actually didn;t believe in the whole "guy with tits" thing until I started trying to describe how bad the writing and character development in this was.

She's a maternity paragon opposing parasitoid rape demons. Shoulda used Vasquez.

Well, considering the only female characters I play are rough-and-tumble tomboys, I probably do just play them like a man with tits.

The femininity issues can be fun to play out, though. "I look terrible in this dress, I'm way too muscular for it" and so on.

nawh, there were some tits

"Does.. Does battlemail make my ass look fat?"

"This plate armour has a very unflattering silhouette, and I hate this tassle. The sword is nice, though."

tits indeed. but this is Veeky Forums, odds are someone's hoping Ripley's hiding a dick there.

Nice

I don't really know if I roleplay women right or wrong,but definitely not as "man with tits".

>When you play any characters, do you actually roleplay them, or...
>Any character at all
>Having to ask if you "actually roleplay them"

You're That Guy, OP. Or at least a bad player.

Briana of Tarth every time.

She's absolutely a woman, just a really big one with an excessive sense of commitment who likes to stab people.

If Jamie Lee Curtis is a man with tits I'm gay as hell

>phone corrects Brienne to Briana

You guys do realize that in Alien Ripley was a man up until they decided they needed more female characters and just had a secretary rewrite the script by replacing any reference to Ripley's sex from male to female (swap "he" to "she", etc.)

She's literally a male character with tits and vag.

>Implying Korra probably wasn't a case of something similar because someone on the team decided at the end that the show needed a female protag that season.

Honestly it's more like "Human with tits"

How exactly would a woman character have been played differently in that role?

It's more like "unlikeable teenager with attitude problems" with tits to be fair. Fuck oh dear did she have like zero character development over 3 seasons and whine about EVERYTHING. I'm not saying she's a dude with tits, but lets be honest, the tits were the only reason she got away with it without being as hated as any other generic teeange-boy anime protagonist.

I play them like men with hips

The problem with playing a woman and not actually being one is that men and women both have naturally different thought processes and thought processes which are shaped by culture

Men are unable to play a woman as a woman without understanding female psychology and what motivates a woman to do something

yeah she's hot

A female Fett would have had an awkward, stalkery love triangle with Solo. Thank god that didn't happen.

Aren't we being told that there really is no essential difference between men and women, and therefore RPing a woman is simply being a man with tits?

;)

I admittedly only saw the first season and I don't want to do the /co/ on Veeky Forums thing, but Korra's character didn't seem unbelievable. She seemed like a regular bitchy tomboy.

But korra is the most whiny dependent emotional wreck in the entire franchise. The fact that she's built like a half orc doesn't change that, especially when she's actually a garbage tier avatar in terms of strength

Like a man with tits, of course. Anything else would be sexist.

Wouldn't the culture be completely different, though? You might as well argue that a man can't play any fantasy character without understanding history and what motivated people in the past to do what they did. Not to mention the xenopsychology experience you'd need to play a nonhuman...

I'm just saying, Ripleys gender wasn't really important to fighting xenomorphs. Either way, you're going to get your shit pushed in.

Good job she's hot.

People wouldn't put up with that bitch otherwise.

And you know what, that's a fine starting point. But when the character has like zero development over 3-adventures, that's not good writing or good roleplaying. It's someone with a fetish (I don't necessarily mean in a sexual way) that they don't wana abandon.

It's like the guy who plays a hordog bard that wants to sleep with everything but then never grows up or matures out of that even as it continues to cause misery for himself and everyone around him once the romp in the sheets is over.

I actually roleplay. In one of the many nwod games my friends and I play for a couple sessions then drop, I played a Ventrue vampire whom was simply known as "Her Grace", she was always followed by two ghouls known as Scum and Filth, they worshiped her as an actual Goddess.

We must have watched different movies, because that's exactly how I interpreted those events.

Two different groups. The people who use "man with tits" to describe characters are the ones with strong beliefs in gender roles, who aren't the ones saying there's no difference.

Ripley was only supposed to be a male character in the early drafts. There wasn't any boogeyman "they" who decided to change it. Scott just decided to flip the convention. Sigourney Weaver was actually up against Meryl Streep for the role during auditions.

Indeed most of the reason why Ripley is a good character, was because in the early drafts she wasn't written as a typical Hollywood female character for that time.

>We must have watched different movies, because that's exactly how I interpreted those events.
Perhaps, but it was a subtle thing in that was never directly stated. Otherwise Fett would have wasted all her lines somehow on it and it would have been a whole subplot.

And Sigourney Weaver still managed to convincingly play her as a femenine and at the same time functioning woman in a blue collard job. Amazing,huh?

Fett had lines?

>horndog that wants to sleep with everything but then never grows up or matures out of that even as it continues to cause misery for himself and everyone around him once the romp in the sheets is over.
Fuck, I've got a couple of friends I really wouldn't mind seeing some character development from after 20+ seasons.

But bobba fett was actually just your dad the whole time

Which is hilarious, because they're basically just describing a trans character.

Interestingly enough I have found that both male and female characters are equally inept (and sometimes competent) at cross-gender roleplaying. Both are just as capable of making cringe-worthy fap-baits.

"He's no good to me dead".
And "As you wish."

Oh and that willhelm scream.

That's why he was so good, he had like two lines one sarcastically agree with Vader about no disintegration and hailing his ship.

And the scream.

You have got to look up how Alien was actually written, man, there is a treat waiting for you.

Pretty much this. I've noticed that no matter who I'm playing with, their cross-gendered characters subtly (or not so subtly) conform to stereotypes of how the gender they're playing is presented to them in stuff aimed at their real IRL gender. Ex. Men being marketed to women as sensitive and non-threatening but marketed to males as emotionless badass killing machines.

I wish Bobba Fett was my dad. He wouldn't beat my mom like what her boyfriend, Johnny does.

Somehow that makes him look more intimidating.

"He's no good to me dead"

Since we all know that gender is a social construct, what are women if not men with tits?

Nobody said anything like that, so stop projecting. And I don't know what you're trying to refute here by saying the exact same thing.

That's what the dudes said in the documentary. What other version of the story is there?

>Gender is a social construct
>Gender dysphoria is a genuine medical condition

???

is okay to play a woman as a man if she's a dyke, no?
same for playing a flaming homosexual as a woman

I usually play super conservative women. The first was a lesbian half-Orc fighter, the next was a get the job done human Druid, then the virgin and probably gonna stay that way for a long time half elf paladin.

Roleplaying a character of the opposite sex is always ok unless you're doing it for some weird ass fetish or if it's full of stereotypes.
We're finishing a campaign this weekend,and for the next one I'm planning to play a woman, to see how it goes.

Right, because the actor/actress playing the character adds nothing to it

Thank god were playing pretend

>weird ass fetish or if it's full of stereotypes

Ah, yes. That Guy. Monstergirl character who fucks everything.

I play them as a man but take away all reason and accountability.

This is as good as it gets.

I roleplay male characters as females without tits.

It's great because these things are actually mutually exclusive.

Just the accountability.

I find it more fun to be the human male who tries to get into the pants of the monster girl characters, but that's just me.

IIRC, the original draft was written neuter, with all characters being referred to by part of their name. E.g. always 'Ripley.'
I can't say when they decided it, but I've got a nagging feeling they only did it when they had an actor they thought was best for the role.

Why try to get into her pants when you can just be in her pants all the time?

That's actually something which really frustrates me about trans people, to be honest. So much of it is about gender conformity - having a lot of interests identified with the opposite sex means you identify as a member of the opposite sex, instead of someone who just isn't a traditional member of your biological one.

To play devil's advocate, not necessarily.

I mean even if gender is only a social construct, it's completely possible for people to feel psychological dissonance between what you feel you are and what society tells you that you are. The mind is weird as fuck.

I play a female character as a hideous hag wearing a burqa so she's as difficult to objectify as possible, while making her absolutely flawless and the best at everything so she's not making a statement that one woman is bad at X therefore all women are bad at X, and I make sure she's never in a situation where she might get hurt, be vulnerable or need to be helped by a man.
You know, equality!

If that were the case, simple therapy would be an effective cure, but it's not.

I'll concede you have a point there.

Really, there's so many differences between men and women, even subtle ones like women having a better sense of smell and men having more sweat glands, that I find it hard to buy the whole "gender is purely a social construct" thing. Heck, there's even been research showing that the brains of transgender people are quite different than those of cis people, so it's definitely something more than "feeling different than what society tells you".

Now one could have an argument that Gender Roles are a social construct, which I could find more believable, but even still, there are quite a few things which women naturally find more appealing than men and vice versa.

Op, when you play a male character, do you actually roleplay them or do you just play them like "a woman with a penis"?

I play it like a male pretending to be a female.
Which is perfect, because that's what the character is. Of course it isn't actually a female character, but it's way easier to RP.

According to some research and artistic renderings, a woman with a penis acts pretty differently from a man

I like Korra for one trait. She doesn't give up. She jobs, whines, bitches, moans and cries, but at the end up the day she comes back for more.

The lack of character development was due to shitty planning by the show creators who only planned one season at a time, and never knew what to do with her apart from that, so they just ran the same story three times.

>never knew what to do with her apart from that
That was partly Nicks fault as the creators never even knew if they'd get a full season, let alone three.
Then Nick tried to pull the plug before No.3 was even finished.

SocJus people are weird because they get offended when people don't have a college level understanding of the issues they care about, yet by and large make absolutely no attempt to be understood outside the little bubble of people who agree with them. When they say "gender is a social construct," they actually do mean traditional gender roles, and most of the other things we associate gender beyond the purely biological. The thought that the memetic phrase they've latched onto to express this idea is confusing and easily mocked and nitpicked by their detractors never crosses their minds. It's almost like they care more about smugly circlejerking on the internet about how right they are than actually doing anything.

God I hate the left so fucking much, and I'm basically one of them

and therefore further measures are taken

>God I hate the left so fucking much, and I'm basically one of them
Pretty much the same. I'm all for LGTB rights and doing more for economic opportunity, but dammit, self-righteous SocJus-types are making us all look nuts.

I'm right there with you. I'm a man without a country.

>It's almost like they care more about smugly circlejerking on the internet about how right they are than actually doing anything.
Which Veeky Forums also does. The issue is more one with the way internet culture works than it is a left vs. right issue

>get offended when people don't have a college level understanding of the issues they care about, yet by and large make absolutely no attempt to be understood outside the little bubble of people who agree with them
same could be said about large portion of people in academia

>there's even been research showing that the brains of transgender people are quite different than those of cis people
I remember reading that men's brains look a certain way and women's brains look a certain way, and that gay people's brains are actually more similar to the opposite gender's than their own.

>Which Veeky Forums also does. The issue is more one with the way internet culture works than it is a left vs. right issue
Not denying that. I think it's really a millennial issue, linked to that participation award mentality where feeling good is more important than doing good and effort has intrinsic value regardless of results. Now we have a generation of people who think "activism" means posting Facebook statuses that will mostly only be read by people who already agree with you

Academia is the other big problem. Again, they're only interested in communicating with each other and can't be bothered to make themselves comprehensible to anyone who hasn't gone to college, because apparently classism only exists when it intersects with the "isms" they actually care about and it isn't the least bit hypocritical to claim to be a socialist while endlessly mocking (white) lower class stereotypes.

I usually play it like The Boss or Lady Oscar. They're really no different from the men I play, but they're still women, when it counts.

In the original, yes.

Ripley didn't become a symbol of badass maternity until the sequel.

>Now we have a generation of people who think "activism" means posting Facebook statuses that will mostly only be read by people who already agree with you
I see that more from 30somethings than I do from teenagers, and the people I know are about an even mix, age wise.

Aliens was overall a better movie than Alien.

>Aliens was overall a better movie than Alien

Both were good for different reasons, but I agree.

Honestly, after reincarnating between genders for thousand of years. She would have a fucked up sexuality.

...

>Neill Blomkamp Aliens sequel that brings back Ripley and Hicks and ignores 3 and Resurrection will never come to pass

It hurts to live