Burning Wheel

I think there are also monstrous stock options in the monster burner for players to use, but I'm on my phone, so I can't confirm.

By Tolkienesque, I mostly meant technology ranging from about the high to late middle ages, at least for human characters, combined with the (possible)presence of magic, elves, dwarves and orcs. Within that basic premiss, you have some flexibility. It's very possible to make a nautical campaign, or treasure hunters, nobility, dirt farmers, what have you.

The nature of the supernatural stocks (dwarves, elves and orcs) is completely codified in their life path options, and the special rules they get (Greed, Grief, and Hate)

The creator is a hardcore autist who literally did everything possible to bury this game deep in a pit and never spark wider interest.

And then he made several cutesy properties based on the game (liek Mouse Guard).

It's a cool book, but an obsession with anti-piracy and disorganized releases and versions killed this game.

Real talk, if someone would run it I'd play.

I genuinely like BW. It has a fantastic lifepath system--the folks I've played with ended up "burning" (creating) a ton of different characters simply because the lifepath choices were so varied and entertaining, and character creation works very hard to help you have a well-defined character.

It handles Tolkien quite well, and could easily do Martin as well. I tend to stick with the Tolkienesque, however--it's not really my system of choice for really High Fantasy or Pulp Fantasy. There are few systems to compete with it for dealing with human-centric settings, IMO. It may be a bit more work than you want to deal with, with 16 different races for players to pick from. Not impossible, mind, just not made-to-order.

New players might find pitfalls with the Duel of Wits and the scripted combat have a Forge heavy Storygames. Some folks swear it's intuitive, but it wasn't for me. With combat, I would start with the basic resolution, and as you get more comfortable, add in things like positioning. I find myself not using the Duel of Wits system much at all (and not just because I'm unarmed, har). Aside from these two items, both of which can be simplified, the game isn't too tough to pick up. Gameplay is speeded up and benefits from the philosophy of "let it ride", which cuts down on multiple dice rolls by rolling once for, say a skill like Tracking, and sticking with that roll through the entire scene, rather than re-roll at every point that skill comes up. I might also add the two books are two of the most attractive RPG books I've ever picked up, if you like that sort of thing.

There's a couple threads up on theRPGSite if you'd like to see the system in action, or read a review in the Pundits subforum

I'll maybe consider running a game if this one goes well and I feel more comfortable with the system.

Thanks I'll check it out. I watched a couple tutorial sessions on Youtube but seeing it played irl is pretty cringey.

The "problem" with Burning Wheel is that it R E Q U I R E S good players, and a good GM to take advantage of it.

It's the kind of system that earnestly sees nothing wrong with players trying to game the system, and in fact expects it. That's why it's so tightly and well designed. But if you have players who zone out or say "Uh, I full attack" all the time, and you put them in Fight, they're going to be overwhelmed by options and go full retard.

>seeing p&p games played irl is pretty cringey
>textshitters

Anyway, link
mediafire.com/download/03bfozl4dfcfonn/Burning Wheel - Gold Edition - Bookmarked OCR.pdf

If you have any experience with 1st-3rd edition Shadowrun, it's pretty fun.

Pic related, word salad combat
>you should be able to solve this

>mediafire.com/download/03bfozl4dfcfonn/Burning Wheel - Gold Edition - Bookmarked OCR.pdf
Already Dead

Try changing the title next time.

Going to run a Shadowrun 2e game soon, so that's good to hear. I'm expecting some weird and outdated mechanics, and am starting with some house rules, but I like the flavor so much better than SR4 onwards.

On-topic, Burning Wheel is pretty great, but most of what's been said in this thread is true. Hard to find players, hard to legally acquire the resources to even play it in the first place. The creator did a whole lot to ensure it would stay an indie hipster book-only thing, to the best of his ability.

Works for me senpai

Burning Wheel is not only Tolkienesque in superficial aspects, many of the mechanics mirror stuff from the legendarium. You could build most characters from the Silmarillion very faithfullly with the system.

You shouldn't homebrew anything with Burning Wheel. The mechanics cover pretty much every situation you need to deal with. Hell, 20% of the mechanics are all you need for a good 80% or situations, maybe 90%. The remaining mechanics are for specific niches.

Honestly, BW is the one system I would seriously consider if I ever wanted to tackle a Middle Earth game.

Posting one of the rarer books I've seen for BW.

>dark elves
Just what I needed. Thanks user.

GURPS fag please go.

hey virt

The system's problem is that it requires tremendous buy-in from everyone involved. A lot of games rely heavily on the GM, but Burning Wheel relies a tremendous amount on the players. The systems are complex enough that the guy who shows up to D&D and asks what his CMD is every week is going to short-circuit every time a Fight! scene starts.

I fall into the same, sad category that you're talking about. I fell in love with the system, but my group will never be up to playing it. Is that a bug or a feature? I don't know, kind of both.

Speaking of Fight! scenes. Technically, you don't need to use those. You can gloss over a fight with one or two Sword checks. You use Fight! , Range And Cover and Battle of Wits when the players and characters are especially invested in the outcome. E.g when significant Beliefs are at play.

The Roll20 Burning Wheel campaign

youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTj75n3v9eTle4ja3M_9nHDn2ji08Jaw4

Just read the manual and use your experience as GM if you've been one before.

Have played a few sessions of this, and it really is fun. I'd love to run it myself there were any good scifi conversions out there

There's Burning Empires and Burning Jihad (which is essentially Dune by way of the Burning Wheel)

>I'd love to run it myself there were any good scifi conversions out there

mediafire.com/download/enc9eqrt3a3dkmt/The Burning Wheel Burning Sand Jihad.pdf
Not-Dune: The Game

mediafire.com/#vh90rsfseg0br
Burning Empires