So how would you have handled the Black Magic M-66 incident Veeky Forums?
For a quick summery for those unfarmiliar: >Two military grade androids are being shipped to a testing facility >The Transport they are on crashes and casuses the two to wake up following the dummy orders they had installed during intially testing >The military is deployed to capture the two weapons as reports of missing hikers/ campers, and bisected body of a black bear were found >After contact, one of the androids is neutralized but only after it destroyed itself and rreleased nerve gas from it's body >The second android continues on it's mission eventually ending up inside of a city resulting in numerous injuries and deaths of civilians and soldiers set to capture it >It was only stopped after sustaining heavy damage loosing one of it's arms, heavy machine gun fire as well as overheating from prolonged activity
Mind you this was only after it was heavily damaged before hand from the various traps set by the military and having part of a building collapse on it.
They are very durable.
Grayson King
>So how would you have handled the Black Magic M-66 incident Veeky Forums?
Me or my PCs?
Me, as much as I'm ashamed to admit, I'd shit myself and cower in fear.
One of my PCs has ability to disable machines with his mind, other can speak to machines. So, they'd handle it easily.
Jonathan Ross
Handled it in what fashion? As a GM? Being in charge of the recovery operation? Whoever loaded nerve gas into the bot should be fired. It's a freaking test for the bot. Nerve gas testing should be done in a damned lab! Does the unit have a tracking device installed? How are its EMP/EW defenses?
Samuel Lee
>Black Magic Man, I was so young when I saw that. Anyway, here's my last few characters I've played or playing.
My Pathfinder Mermaid Cleric would be killed in short order, unless we beat a hasty retreat.
My Dark Heresy Sister of Battle has an Inferno Pistol and normally a few Krak grenades or similar, though she may end up doing a heroic last stand taking it down. Depends on if it can break Power Armour open or not.
My Mutants and Masterminds Overpowered Heroine would be safe behind her shield till she knows she has a clear shot, then the robot and everything behind her for the next two or so dozen metres will be, literally, atomised. She is fucking overpowered, but then so is the rest of the team. We're kind DC power creeping our way into apotheosis here. If the military HAS to have most of her back, then she might be able to cripple it with a much more controlled blast but she can't promise anything.
My Gamma World Superheroic Blue-skinned Alien Inventor has a universal EMP gun guaranteed to stop any electrical-mechanical device for at least ten seconds. She can work with the military, she stuns it and they work really fast to restrain it otherwise she'll be whipping out her heat-ray pistol to prevent as many deaths as possible. Then she's making a break for it as quickly as possible before she is captured alongside the robot for being an alien.
Finally my young girl Hospital Patient from the DM's homebrew Survival Horror, which ceased being about survival and horror not long there-after, she's hiding in a corner and praying for the nurse to find her before the robot does. Hell, even that demon doctor would be welcome at this point, he at least just likes torture and abhors killing.
Ian Garcia
In the anime they used iron wires and portable magnets as a way to detain and detour the android. In one instance the reporter woman (who's name I forget) managed to get a hold of one of the magnet devices to hold the android off while stuck in an elevator with it .
Justin Williams
I would administer headpats to M-66 F6-402
Mason Rogers
>the first android >the second android They've got names you know, they're called M-66 F5 and M-66 F6-402!
Jeez!
Carter Reed
>So how would you have handled the Black Magic M-66 incident Veeky Forums? by not making "dummy" orders include any killing, destruction, or even locomotion. Christ.
Zachary Jackson
Who are you calling a dummy?!
Jayden Smith
Declare war on wherever the transport crashed. Doesn't matter if it's my own country, I fucked up, I'm owning this mistake and ruining this particular area.
Jaxon Hall
>It was only stopped after sustaining heavy damage loosing one of it's arms, heavy machine gun fire as well as overheating from prolonged activity Actually F6 was only TEMPORARILY stopped by all that shit.
At the very end she does a final jumpscare by propping back up after cooling down, but then she's de-activated for good.
Here's a scene where F5 and F6 first get into combat with the military.
F5 An Heros after being restrained and F6 beasts her way out with a light pole as a staff
Josiah Turner
With explosives and no regard for civilian causalities
Connor Moore
Hate to sound like that, but man
How come that we went from that to modern weeb shit?
James Diaz
In the past, anime producers consumed other forms of media. Modern anime producers have only consumed anime, so the result is an inbred puddle.
Camden Ortiz
Economics. Japan's economy went into a long-term recession, so animation companies have to make what's popular and cheap to stay in business.
Lucas Gonzalez
For the most part yeah, although granted this is Masamune Shirow we're talking here although he's done hentai as well but I imagine every manga artist/writer has to pony up porn at some point in their career.
Alexander Jenkins
... I make triple sure at every stage of packing this DEATH MACHINE into its box to clear any mission perogitive given to the DEATH MACHINE during the testing of said DEATH MACHINE at the DEATH MACHINE's point of origin.
Robert Rodriguez
Well having the Dummy orders be something like "Rules Of Engagement preclude any offensive actions save in final self defense" and "Proceed directly to nearest preprogrammed extraction point, enter sleep mode, and await pickup" Seems like a good start.
Julian Clark
I suppose next your going to tell me that we shouldn't build giant Death Stations with weak points that kill them in one hit OR that it would be better to kill enemy spies by shooting them rather than hooking them up to elaborate death traps. Your insane.
Gabriel Sanders
Well are we talking about the incident in the anime, or in the manga (by Masamune Shirow)? They're very different beasts, with the anime taking place on Earth for one, and there being four M66 units and the incident being part of a larger narrative in the manga.
Eli Turner
Shirow also did the character designs, the storyboards and some of the direction of the anime
Leo Anderson
Ok look, I've had it up to here with all the crap people give me- I mean, the project lead on the Death Stars, about that fucking exhaust port. Look on your computer. You see that grate on it? That's an exhaust port. Most machinery has aeveral of them. I- I mean, he, erm, they, as in the entire design team, were able to create one singular exhaust port for the entire station. If there had been more than one the exhaust from firing that giant ass laser would've vaporized any nearby ships and severly fucked with the various systems around the exterior of the Death Star. With one port we- THEY managed to properly shield necessary systems without breaking the galactic economy as well as set up a proper early warning syatem for ahips to move to safety. We did good. They. ... They did good.
Julian Perez
Who lets their granddaughter dress like that?
Grayson Bailey
the kind of irresonsible mad scientist who builds a military killbot based on a maidbot
Jacob White
Do they say what the magnets do? You'd think there'd be safety elements put in place, like ways to shut them down remotely.
Camden Peterson
>suddenly in charge of military forces/equipment evacuate the local area roughly 3 miles out. perimeter with tanks and big scary guns that could mulch the damned thing trap it. make it so the damned thing HAS to come out into one of our wonderful traps or be destroyed. then i take it apart while its still online, slowly. maybe i can still make a wonderful killing machine yet...
Connor Sanchez
The magnets are strrong enough to repel it so it's Imagine it's designed to pin it in place if placed as such so then you can restrain it with the steel cables.
Chase Miller
Technically the second one isn't an android but a gynoid.
Luke Clark
>Two military grade androids are being shipped to a testing facility
>fully assembled, charged and equipped with nerve gas
WHY
you could at least slip a plastic tab in between the CPU contacts so that they don't activate for no reason at all in transit
AT LEAST
Nolan Campbell
>soldier sees a bit of trash on the machine, flicks it off >nope it was that little tab like in small gadgets to keep the batteries fresh >WW|||
Noah Richardson
What? You've never sat spent a day at home in just your underwear?
Dylan Powell
They were supposed to be delivered separate from the memory chips that actually allowed them to be active. The doctor bitches the other guy out for transporting them together, with chips in the androids, rather than separate from the chips, like he was supposed to. The actual plan was alright - just some person was'nt thinking and fucked it up.
Camden Watson
It's been a long while since I saw it, but wasn't there some suspicion thrown around that the delivery had been purposefully fucked up, so they could perform a field test for the androids in the guise of an accident?
Liam Brooks
That's what thought also. but I honestly haven't seen it since I was a child so my memory might be faulty.
Benjamin Campbell
For Shirow though, it's more like he's a porn artist that has to pony up normal stuff.
Alexander Rodriguez
The manga was so much better.
And much weirder.
Adam Miller
The anime lifts just a segment from the manga and reframes it. It would require quite a bit of exposition if they'd retained the original setting so I guess they chose to take the simpler approach.
Bentley Harris
In the original manga it was in fact sabotage.
Ian Reyes
Yeah there's an undercurrent of political play between power blocks in the story. In many ways Black Magic is Shirow's proto-Appleseed. Both feature high tech, politics, bioroids, special forces action and gun porn. The only thing not present in Appleseed is psychic powers. (And Appleseed in turn could be called a template for Ghost in the Shell.)
Kevin Campbell
They're both girls, F5 is just a bit more tomboyish.
