Warhammer Fantasy General: What A Terrible Night To Have A Curse Edition
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Is there a good system for setting up a tabletop/pen and paper game?
I doubt I could convince my friends to play the 2nd edition, given all the random bullshit involved in character creation.
Jace Myers
So, ignoring the Fag Times, Esmer got kicked out and fled to Marienburg, Volkmar resumed his position as Grand Theogonist, and Luthor Huss stayed at his right hand, right?
Josiah Murphy
You mean you want a Warhammer RPG other than Warhammer Fantasy RPG?
David Cooper
Yes.
Jaxon Garcia
Not sure if you need one. You can just dress up another RPG as Warhammer, can't you?
I don't think any other RPG exists unless you want to play 1e Warhammer.
Robert Bailey
Does anyone remember that mini-game Path to Glory?
Christopher Garcia
I was thinking of one that works really well as a system.
Like, whether I should go for GURPS or something.
Carson Brooks
>I doubt I could convince my friends to play the 2nd edition, given all the random bullshit involved in character creation.
Find new friends or change the chargen rules slightly.
Logan Roberts
At the risk of being a faggot I've run into trouble and this seemed like the best place I could get help, anybody know how to stop the fucking Vargs and Skaelings in total Warhammer? They are annoying the ever loving sigmar out of me burning my shit down and running just out of my poor undead legions reach even with the home region bonus move mod and they seem inexplicably immune to attrition, anybody got any advice?
Gavin Bennett
Going through my Fantasy folder and sorting stuff, found these. Not sure what they were for or why I saved them.
Colton Fisher
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Juan Carter
Just nake sure every province has level 2 walls, norscans cant make any chaos warrior units other than maurauders/chariots/warhounds and trolls.
You could also go send heimmlich kremler on a suicide mission with. A stack of skeletons, go to norsca and raze it down, he's a legendary lord so he"ll be back in your capital in a few turns even of hos army is wiped from the chaos attrition
Christian Jones
>Ogre Kingdoms >No cons
Seems accurate
Jackson Smith
>You will never stumble upon a furry beastmen orgy while strolling through Drakwald
WHY EVEN LIVE
Landon Sanchez
You want to see animals shitting on each other?
Ian Scott
Sincerely hope AoS fails and GW finally sees how they hit themselves in the balls with scrapping FB.
Too bad 12-year-old kids would ensure AoS thrives, though.
Michael Thomas
Howdy y'all,
I'd like to ask around and see if there are any Veeky Forums based Warhammer Fantasy skype groups, and if there aren't I'd like to start one.
It'd be for both general chat about models, rules, and the fluff/setting as well as pairing off for Warhammer Roleplay.
Add me, john.law87
Hudson Edwards
Doubt it. AoS burned bridges badly with the gaming community, and especially the FLGS.
The only places it will survive long is where there is a physical GW store, which there's less than there has ever been because the business model is outdated in the current market.
Grayson Young
Did the Lizardmen ever venture outside of the New World?
Xavier Myers
They were everywhere until someone chaos broke the planet. That's their whole thing. They were supposed to be the caretakers for the old ones, but they can't do that anymore since they are cold blooded.
Camden Rodriguez
The back-to-basics kid-friendly rules and such is a good idea in my opinion.
Sure the old rules "kept normies out" but at the cost of very few new players actually making it into the community.
I don't like the new setting very much and I can't forgive them for what they did to the old world but outside of lore-rape the changes weren't awful.
Lincoln Rivera
>since they are cold blooded I'm pretty sure it's not climate that stops lizardmen from acting more than simply not having clear orders to follow and being a relatively marginal faction that is not allowed to be in the spotlight
Cooper Lewis
There were also some lizardmen on the southern continent, to the west and south of the Tomb Kings, as well as supposedly some on the Dragon Isles, south of the Chaos Dwarves.
Nicholas Davis
gj guys.
Lucas Green
Hey guys, apparently we have to post here since the mods said we aren't allowed to post total war warhammer in the total war general
What's up!
Do you know when dwarves will get cavalry?
Really sucks playing "le dawi" because they have no mobility xD
Isaiah Martin
I'm mostly just looking for a way to incorporate the race into a small Old World mod for Warband, but was never under any guise that it was plausible. Just have the (crappy) models available from another mod.
Ryder Torres
Lizardmen holds active holds are not in the old world, they are in lustria, southlands and remote locations, the closest you can get is the recently built city of konquata in albion.
If you want reasons for lizardmen incursions: Relics, geomantic nodes recalibration, extermination campaign If you want ways for travel: Underway, stargates and flying cities
Mason Sullivan
What am I supposed to read here? Why aren't you using copters?
Kayden Reed
Can anyone help me identify these models?
Andrew Davis
Bottom-right, square-green base is Shadowblade's old model for Dark Elves. The one to his left, followed by the three other scythe wielders, are 6E-ish era Wraiths. Ghost-titties is a 6E-era Banshee, model to her right is a 6E-era Necromancer, model above her a Necrarch Vampire, model above that a Lahmia Vampire. Can't tell the other two. All the non-Shadowblade ones are Vampire Counts.
James Cruz
WHFB is never coming back, even though Total War is now more popular than AoS ever will be.
Charles Ward
Thanks bud.
Evan Foster
They had established colonies in the Southlands (i.e. south of the Land of the Dead/Araby)
They also could open up portals and teleport to other places for raids. They've attacked Nagarroth and Ulthuan this way. It required a Slaan Priest to actually care enough about something tho.
Jacob Hall
Not to mention Mordheim and Vermintide finally came out.
Burning the whole world was poorly timed, they are bungling good opportunities.
Brody Sullivan
Why does nobody ever discuss trading miniatures and such here? At least where I live in Texas face-to-face trading and bartertown trading are pretty popular among Warhammer Fantasy and 40k players.
Andrew Green
Looking back, which faction was best for:
>Lore >Tabletop
Grayson Ward
There is a kingdom in the south lands as well, mostly populated by skinks.
Camden Roberts
It's ok they have links to buy the models on the GW site that's all that's needes
Brody Ramirez
Empire hands down
Nolan Thompson
I don't understand what you mean by 'tabletop', like which was the funniest to play as/against or which was the bet for roflstomping?
Dylan Collins
>lore Subjective
>table top High elves, dark elves, woc in terms of base book strength
High elves had the strongest tournament standard unit in the game ala 40 white lions with banner of the world dragon.
Carter Murphy
What is that in the lower right? Chaos Dwarves?
Carson Allen
Yes
Never forget Chaos Dwarfs
Anthony Butler
The problem is they tried to force us to play Age of Sigmar. Instead of trying to give an option, a second mode for play, they thought "End it, our fans will follow our ass like human centipede."
Jacob Hill
Haven't played WHFB since 7th, reading 8th ed rules on a whim. Am I right that in 8th there is no benefit to taking additional spellcasters except for variety and the small increase in channeling dice chances?
Samuel Young
Is the chaos thing without the helmet supposed the be beastmen?
Eli Hernandez
Naa, the chaos symbol without the helmet just to the right of the one with is deamons. The third banner down in the left row is beastmen.
Robert Cook
Odd that it has a helmet too. Have a blocked off root cellar. Family had to lock up a ghoul or mutant child? Perfect spot
Benjamin Brooks
no that's daemons, beastmen is the banner above the tombkings thing
Adrian Nelson
Empire, Bretonnia, High Elves, Dwarfs Wood Elves, Dark Elves, Warriors of Chaos, Daemons of Chaos Beastmen, Orcs and Goblins, Ogre Kingdoms, Vampire Counts Tomb Kings, Lizardmen, Skaven, Chaos Dwarfs
Cameron Cox
You also have a necrarch on horse. Can't tell what the last thing is because of the lighting.
Okay, so it is redundancy/breadth and not raw power like it was in 7th. Thanks.
Joshua Wright
No problem.
In 9th, its better to take multiple ones again.
Isaac Barnes
In a way I kind of doubt scrapping Fantasy had done much damage to them. 40k has been their cash cow for a while now and they're even expanding into old territory with LotR and Specialist Games.
I've still yet to hear of the supposed flood of new players Total Warhammer was supposed to bring in.
Warseer and Dakka love their anecdotes, so if even a handful existed I'm sure they'd be on it like flies on shit.
They obviously viewed the rules portion of Fantasy as baggage, meaning there was no incentive to keep it around.
I also doubt they thought anything of the sort. They probably figured some might come along and some might stay, like with anything else.
This is honestly one of the problems with the fanbase of 40k and Fantasy online, they circle jerk each other so much over their beliefs they've lost the ability to consider for even a moment that GW is not dumber than them and that the company itself manufactures toy soldiers and in the grand scheme of things is small, it's not something on the level of a Walmart.
Nathaniel Roberts
WHFRP 2e works really well as a system.
If chargen is your only problem let your players choose their career and give em points they can distribute 1 to 1 on their characteristics.
Josiah Collins
They have armies fighting all over the world to stem the tide of chaos. Kroq gar Is mentioned to have fought on every continent, even the southern wastes, and for rok has at least been as far as the ogre kingdoms. Despite being all over thenwod they never show up in anyone else's fluff other than the skavens. Even the tomb kings get mentioned fighting alongside imperials and wrecking the Norse
Jayden Foster
Albion had a sizable lizardman contingent on it. I think newer fluff had them conquer the continent completely.
Kevin Hernandez
Which faction is the absolute worst to be a captive under? What fates await the common man or woman who falls prey to the O&G, vampires, tomb kings, chaos dwarfs, beastmen, chaos warriors, dark elves and skaven? And if you had to be a captive under one of those factions, which would you pick?
Lucas Cook
>I've still yet to hear of the supposed flood of new players Total Warhammer was supposed to bring in. Pretty much every new player that popped up either here or on the sigmar general came due to total war tho
We have no way to measure the influx, but we more reasons to believe there's rather than the contrary
Caleb Foster
>O&G >Slavery, abuses, tortures, meat
>vampires >Bretonnian paesant tier servitude in life without the good aspects, undead, drink
>tomb kings >Political captive, execution, execution by scarabs
>chaos dwarfs >Too weak for slave labor, death by exhaustion
Got 6 necro knights and 3 chariots off ebay yesterday for £45.
Feels pretty good. Only need another 3 Sepulchral Stalkers and a unit of Ushabti and my Tomb Kings are pretty complete.
Is there any third party ushabti models that look good or am I gonna have to go to chinaman?
Robert Wilson
Damnit. I must have missed that. I'm checking the fantasy section of EBay pretty much daily. Got outbid for some Skinks this morning. Ballbags.
Wyatt Wood
12yo don't play AoS tho. They play xwing or 40k
Christian Ramirez
Carsteins and Tomb Kings seem to be the best. Warriors of Khorne may give you a chance to redeem yourself by sword. Dark elves and Beastman are the worst. Dark Elves will torture you just for the sake of it,beastman will start eating you alive
Adrian Hill
Tomb Kings don't have any urges to satiate on their prisoners so you're unlikely to be bummed to death like with Beastmen.
William Allen
Skinks and saurus are basically untouched in the new boxes. The saurus one in particular is better for making regiments, since it has 20 dudes in it instead of 16.
Only problem is bases. I'm going to need like sixty 25mms and thirty 20mms after my purchasing spree.
Jace Jenkins
>bath that doesn't sound too bad
Jace Bennett
The rules are awful, its one of the worst wargames on the market when it comes to rules. They are also needlessly complex in all the wrong ways but completely lacking in others.
The rules never kept people out in 6th edition and it frankly baffles me people think AoS was the solution instead of just going back to pre 8th edition WHFB. They were a top 5 selling game before that trainwreck.
Adam Lee
Lad I started to play WHFB when I was 11 and the book was 300-pages thick. Stop thinking kids are retards because you are one.
Andrew Torres
I still don't understand why they included half points up until sixth edition. That shit was a pain to keep track of when writing out a list.
Chase Watson
Not really different from full points desu.
Samuel Hernandez
It was difficult for my seven year old self, since I didn't want to write it out.
Brayden Wilson
They don't bath with you as much as they bath IN you
Carson Anderson
3rd edition WFRP uses point-buy character creation, works well, and embeds more warhammer flavour in the mechanics than a random generic system would.
On the other hand it works best if you play with the physical cards and tokens and such, and those can be expensive or hard to get hold of.
Connor Sanchez
Depends on what faction of every one you are taken prisoner by.
Sylvanians outright enjoyed being ruled by the Vampire Von Carsteins.
Jaxson Evans
>Stop thinking kids are retards because you are one >Implying implications
David Jackson
A necrach bloofline vampire on horse, a lahmia vampires, a necrach vampire om foot, a old necromancer, 3 wights, a spectral damsel and if im not mistaken the old dark elf assasin character
Justin Jones
old cairn wraiths at least
Ayden Harris
I have a pdf of it on my phone, it seemed pretty damn cool, though the mutation table was rather disappointing!
Kevin Murphy
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Angel Fisher
So apparently Kislev was confirmed for DLC (CA created a placeholder wiki page for them, along with the Bretonianians) which they only do for playable races.
What does everyone want to see for there units?
Aaron Diaz
Bear cavalry.
Owen Russell
Ulrika.
Evan Wright
Anything but massed bear cavalry.
Joshua Garcia
TZARINA
Xavier Gomez
I had the idea for a fluffy army where a desperate Empire general recruits a local necromancer to help "bolster" his army in the face of an Orc invasion, who agrees because he doesn't want to have his lair overrun by greenskins either.
"If anyone asks, you're a legitimate member of the amethyst college, right?"
Samuel Gray
The only way that would work is if there's NO Sigmarite priests left. Or priests of Morr.
Also, he pays off his soldiery.
Or is a Border Prince, they get a lot of leeway.
Nicholas Flores
Winged Hussars, Polish/Slavic legacy is a-go!
Jayden Martin
Why are Empire Greatswords the best looking and comfiest unit in the whole of Warhammer?
Isaac Collins
I like it. I have a converted VC Army using all Empire bits.
Xavier Hill
You'd be comfy too if you were slaying monsters in your pajamas
Also it's because Perry bros scuplts are based
Carson Sanchez
This might be common thing near Sylvanian boarder
Jose Rodriguez
Not as a unit, possibly as a commamder mount upgrade. Non-ridden warhears can be a unit.
Kevin Bennett
I want to paint one up as giantdad.
Xavier Gomez
If you're good looking, you might get a position as a sex slave when it comes to Dark Elves. It might get a little freaky, but it sure as hell beats toiling in misery or getting sacrificed.
Matthew Wood
As long as you don't have warpriests in your army it's fluffy.
Julian Hall
Sort of the reverse of the Von Carsteins being able to use Empire militia/ state troops because they're the rightful rulers of that area.
I'm not sure if that's still a thing. It was in the back of the VC book back in 6th ed.
Isaac Garcia
Dark elves torture you for fun and view you with utter contempt. Beastmen are jealous as fuck that the civilized races control their former lands and will take out their misery on you. The beastmen rulebook pretty much states several times that you will be raped, shit on, losses on, raped again, then eaten alive. The worst fate is for captains, generals, standard bearers and mages, or anyone in general who takes pride in nice things. Think of a stoic badass imperial general being captured by the beastmen. They won't just torture him, they'll humiliate and degrade him for days on end until he is a broken, weeping mess. Then they'll eat him alive.