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Warhammer Fantasy General: What A Terrible Night To Have A Curse Edition

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Is there a good system for setting up a tabletop/pen and paper game?

I doubt I could convince my friends to play the 2nd edition, given all the random bullshit involved in character creation.

So, ignoring the Fag Times, Esmer got kicked out and fled to Marienburg, Volkmar resumed his position as Grand Theogonist, and Luthor Huss stayed at his right hand, right?

You mean you want a Warhammer RPG other than Warhammer Fantasy RPG?

Yes.

Not sure if you need one. You can just dress up another RPG as Warhammer, can't you?

I don't think any other RPG exists unless you want to play 1e Warhammer.

Does anyone remember that mini-game Path to Glory?

I was thinking of one that works really well as a system.

Like, whether I should go for GURPS or something.

>I doubt I could convince my friends to play the 2nd edition, given all the random bullshit involved in character creation.

Find new friends or change the chargen rules slightly.

At the risk of being a faggot I've run into trouble and this seemed like the best place I could get help, anybody know how to stop the fucking Vargs and Skaelings in total Warhammer? They are annoying the ever loving sigmar out of me burning my shit down and running just out of my poor undead legions reach even with the home region bonus move mod and they seem inexplicably immune to attrition, anybody got any advice?

Going through my Fantasy folder and sorting stuff, found these. Not sure what they were for or why I saved them.

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Just nake sure every province has level 2 walls, norscans cant make any chaos warrior units other than maurauders/chariots/warhounds and trolls.

You could also go send heimmlich kremler on a suicide mission with. A stack of skeletons, go to norsca and raze it down, he's a legendary lord so he"ll be back in your capital in a few turns even of hos army is wiped from the chaos attrition

>Ogre Kingdoms
>No cons

Seems accurate

>You will never stumble upon a furry beastmen orgy while strolling through Drakwald

WHY EVEN LIVE

You want to see animals shitting on each other?

Sincerely hope AoS fails and GW finally sees how they hit themselves in the balls with scrapping FB.

Too bad 12-year-old kids would ensure AoS thrives, though.

Howdy y'all,

I'd like to ask around and see if there are any Veeky Forums based Warhammer Fantasy skype groups, and if there aren't I'd like to start one.

It'd be for both general chat about models, rules, and the fluff/setting as well as pairing off for Warhammer Roleplay.

Add me, john.law87

Doubt it.
AoS burned bridges badly with the gaming community, and especially the FLGS.

The only places it will survive long is where there is a physical GW store, which there's less than there has ever been because the business model is outdated in the current market.

Did the Lizardmen ever venture outside of the New World?

They were everywhere until someone chaos broke the planet.
That's their whole thing. They were supposed to be the caretakers for the old ones, but they can't do that anymore since they are cold blooded.

The back-to-basics kid-friendly rules and such is a good idea in my opinion.

Sure the old rules "kept normies out" but at the cost of very few new players actually making it into the community.

I don't like the new setting very much and I can't forgive them for what they did to the old world but outside of lore-rape the changes weren't awful.

>since they are cold blooded
I'm pretty sure it's not climate that stops lizardmen from acting more than simply not having clear orders to follow and being a relatively marginal faction that is not allowed to be in the spotlight

There were also some lizardmen on the southern continent, to the west and south of the Tomb Kings, as well as supposedly some on the Dragon Isles, south of the Chaos Dwarves.

gj guys.

Hey guys, apparently we have to post here since the mods said we aren't allowed to post total war warhammer in the total war general

What's up!

Do you know when dwarves will get cavalry?

Really sucks playing "le dawi" because they have no mobility xD

I'm mostly just looking for a way to incorporate the race into a small Old World mod for Warband, but was never under any guise that it was plausible. Just have the (crappy) models available from another mod.

Lizardmen holds active holds are not in the old world, they are in lustria, southlands and remote locations, the closest you can get is the recently built city of konquata in albion.

If you want reasons for lizardmen incursions: Relics, geomantic nodes recalibration, extermination campaign
If you want ways for travel: Underway, stargates and flying cities

What am I supposed to read here?
Why aren't you using copters?

Can anyone help me identify these models?

Bottom-right, square-green base is Shadowblade's old model for Dark Elves. The one to his left, followed by the three other scythe wielders, are 6E-ish era Wraiths. Ghost-titties is a 6E-era Banshee, model to her right is a 6E-era Necromancer, model above her a Necrarch Vampire, model above that a Lahmia Vampire. Can't tell the other two. All the non-Shadowblade ones are Vampire Counts.

WHFB is never coming back, even though Total War is now more popular than AoS ever will be.

Thanks bud.

They had established colonies in the Southlands (i.e. south of the Land of the Dead/Araby)

They also could open up portals and teleport to other places for raids. They've attacked Nagarroth and Ulthuan this way. It required a Slaan Priest to actually care enough about something tho.

Not to mention Mordheim and Vermintide finally came out.

Burning the whole world was poorly timed, they are bungling good opportunities.

Why does nobody ever discuss trading miniatures and such here?
At least where I live in Texas face-to-face trading and bartertown trading are pretty popular among Warhammer Fantasy and 40k players.

Looking back, which faction was best for:

>Lore
>Tabletop

There is a kingdom in the south lands as well, mostly populated by skinks.

It's ok they have links to buy the models on the GW site that's all that's needes

Empire hands down

I don't understand what you mean by 'tabletop', like which was the funniest to play as/against or which was the bet for roflstomping?

>lore
Subjective

>table top
High elves, dark elves, woc in terms of base book strength

High elves had the strongest tournament standard unit in the game ala 40 white lions with banner of the world dragon.

What is that in the lower right? Chaos Dwarves?

Yes

Never forget Chaos Dwarfs

The problem is they tried to force us to play Age of Sigmar. Instead of trying to give an option, a second mode for play, they thought "End it, our fans will follow our ass like human centipede."

Haven't played WHFB since 7th, reading 8th ed rules on a whim. Am I right that in 8th there is no benefit to taking additional spellcasters except for variety and the small increase in channeling dice chances?

Is the chaos thing without the helmet supposed the be beastmen?

Naa, the chaos symbol without the helmet just to the right of the one with is deamons. The third banner down in the left row is beastmen.

Odd that it has a helmet too. Have a blocked off root cellar. Family had to lock up a ghoul or mutant child? Perfect spot

no that's daemons, beastmen is the banner above the tombkings thing

Empire, Bretonnia, High Elves, Dwarfs
Wood Elves, Dark Elves, Warriors of Chaos, Daemons of Chaos
Beastmen, Orcs and Goblins, Ogre Kingdoms, Vampire Counts
Tomb Kings, Lizardmen, Skaven, Chaos Dwarfs

You also have a necrarch on horse. Can't tell what the last thing is because of the lighting.

Multiple lores, Miscast insurance, resisting assassination.

Mandatory almost for VC and 9th TK.

Okay, so it is redundancy/breadth and not raw power like it was in 7th. Thanks.

No problem.

In 9th, its better to take multiple ones again.

In a way I kind of doubt scrapping Fantasy had done much damage to them. 40k has been their cash cow for a while now and they're even expanding into old territory with LotR and Specialist Games.

I've still yet to hear of the supposed flood of new players Total Warhammer was supposed to bring in.

Warseer and Dakka love their anecdotes, so if even a handful existed I'm sure they'd be on it like flies on shit.

They obviously viewed the rules portion of Fantasy as baggage, meaning there was no incentive to keep it around.

I also doubt they thought anything of the sort. They probably figured some might come along and some might stay, like with anything else.

This is honestly one of the problems with the fanbase of 40k and Fantasy online, they circle jerk each other so much over their beliefs they've lost the ability to consider for even a moment that GW is not dumber than them and that the company itself manufactures toy soldiers and in the grand scheme of things is small, it's not something on the level of a Walmart.

WHFRP 2e works really well as a system.

If chargen is your only problem let your players choose their career and give em points they can distribute 1 to 1 on their characteristics.

They have armies fighting all over the world to stem the tide of chaos. Kroq gar Is mentioned to have fought on every continent, even the southern wastes, and for rok has at least been as far as the ogre kingdoms. Despite being all over thenwod they never show up in anyone else's fluff other than the skavens. Even the tomb kings get mentioned fighting alongside imperials and wrecking the Norse

Albion had a sizable lizardman contingent on it. I think newer fluff had them conquer the continent completely.

Which faction is the absolute worst to be a captive under? What fates await the common man or woman who falls prey to the O&G, vampires, tomb kings, chaos dwarfs, beastmen, chaos warriors, dark elves and skaven?
And if you had to be a captive under one of those factions, which would you pick?

>I've still yet to hear of the supposed flood of new players Total Warhammer was supposed to bring in.
Pretty much every new player that popped up either here or on the sigmar general came due to total war tho

We have no way to measure the influx, but we more reasons to believe there's rather than the contrary

>O&G
>Slavery, abuses, tortures, meat

>vampires
>Bretonnian paesant tier servitude in life without the good aspects, undead, drink

>tomb kings
>Political captive, execution, execution by scarabs

>chaos dwarfs
>Too weak for slave labor, death by exhaustion

>beastmen
>Rape, abuses, tortures, meat

>warriors
>Slavery, sacrifice, torture, execution

>dark elves
>Slavery, servitude, sacrifice, execution, torture, abuses, bath

>skaven
>Slavery, tortures, abuses, meat

Dark elves

Got 6 necro knights and 3 chariots off ebay yesterday for £45.

Feels pretty good. Only need another 3 Sepulchral Stalkers and a unit of Ushabti and my Tomb Kings are pretty complete.

Is there any third party ushabti models that look good or am I gonna have to go to chinaman?

Damnit. I must have missed that. I'm checking the fantasy section of EBay pretty much daily. Got outbid for some Skinks this morning. Ballbags.

12yo don't play AoS tho. They play xwing or 40k

Carsteins and Tomb Kings seem to be the best.
Warriors of Khorne may give you a chance to redeem yourself by sword.
Dark elves and Beastman are the worst.
Dark Elves will torture you just for the sake of it,beastman will start eating you alive

Tomb Kings don't have any urges to satiate on their prisoners so you're unlikely to be bummed to death like with Beastmen.

Skinks and saurus are basically untouched in the new boxes. The saurus one in particular is better for making regiments, since it has 20 dudes in it instead of 16.

Only problem is bases. I'm going to need like sixty 25mms and thirty 20mms after my purchasing spree.

>bath
that doesn't sound too bad

The rules are awful, its one of the worst wargames on the market when it comes to rules. They are also needlessly complex in all the wrong ways but completely lacking in others.

The rules never kept people out in 6th edition and it frankly baffles me people think AoS was the solution instead of just going back to pre 8th edition WHFB. They were a top 5 selling game before that trainwreck.

Lad I started to play WHFB when I was 11 and the book was 300-pages thick. Stop thinking kids are retards because you are one.

I still don't understand why they included half points up until sixth edition. That shit was a pain to keep track of when writing out a list.

Not really different from full points desu.

It was difficult for my seven year old self, since I didn't want to write it out.

They don't bath with you as much as they bath IN you

3rd edition WFRP uses point-buy character creation, works well, and embeds more warhammer flavour in the mechanics than a random generic system would.

On the other hand it works best if you play with the physical cards and tokens and such, and those can be expensive or hard to get hold of.

Depends on what faction of every one you are taken prisoner by.

Sylvanians outright enjoyed being ruled by the Vampire Von Carsteins.

>Stop thinking kids are retards because you are one
>Implying implications

A necrach bloofline vampire on horse, a lahmia vampires, a necrach vampire om foot, a old necromancer, 3 wights, a spectral damsel and if im not mistaken the old dark elf assasin character

old cairn wraiths at least

I have a pdf of it on my phone, it seemed pretty damn cool, though the mutation table was rather disappointing!

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So apparently Kislev was confirmed for DLC (CA created a placeholder wiki page for them, along with the Bretonianians) which they only do for playable races.

What does everyone want to see for there units?

Bear cavalry.

Ulrika.

Anything but massed bear cavalry.

TZARINA

I had the idea for a fluffy army where a desperate Empire general recruits a local necromancer to help "bolster" his army in the face of an Orc invasion, who agrees because he doesn't want to have his lair overrun by greenskins either.

"If anyone asks, you're a legitimate member of the amethyst college, right?"

The only way that would work is if there's NO Sigmarite priests left. Or priests of Morr.

Also, he pays off his soldiery.

Or is a Border Prince, they get a lot of leeway.

Winged Hussars, Polish/Slavic legacy is a-go!

Why are Empire Greatswords the best looking and comfiest unit in the whole of Warhammer?

I like it. I have a converted VC Army using all Empire bits.

You'd be comfy too if you were slaying monsters in your pajamas

Also it's because Perry bros scuplts are based

This might be common thing near Sylvanian boarder

Not as a unit, possibly as a commamder mount upgrade. Non-ridden warhears can be a unit.

I want to paint one up as giantdad.

If you're good looking, you might get a position as a sex slave when it comes to Dark Elves. It might get a little freaky, but it sure as hell beats toiling in misery or getting sacrificed.

As long as you don't have warpriests in your army it's fluffy.

Sort of the reverse of the Von Carsteins being able to use Empire militia/ state troops because they're the rightful rulers of that area.

I'm not sure if that's still a thing. It was in the back of the VC book back in 6th ed.

Dark elves torture you for fun and view you with utter contempt. Beastmen are jealous as fuck that the civilized races control their former lands and will take out their misery on you. The beastmen rulebook pretty much states several times that you will be raped, shit on, losses on, raped again, then eaten alive. The worst fate is for captains, generals, standard bearers and mages, or anyone in general who takes pride in nice things. Think of a stoic badass imperial general being captured by the beastmen. They won't just torture him, they'll humiliate and degrade him for days on end until he is a broken, weeping mess. Then they'll eat him alive.