Ben 40k

Can he go Solo against 40k and Fix it.

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He has a literal omnipotent form so yes

And the omnitrix would copy any xenos he came across

How would it handle Mutants and Abhumans? At some point the mutant is so fucked up it is its own creature, but radically different from another of its "kind".

Also, what about Tyranids? Aren't they constantly evolving as they devour the universe? How the fuck can the thr Omnitrix keep up with that bullshit?

Being a xenos doesn't seem to be working out for the xenos in 40k.

I don't think mutants are ever adressed in the show, but in case of weird and extremely non-human aliens the omnitrix seems to just go for a compromise between the human and alien form

He also always keeps a human mind, even when he's in forms that are non-sentient. For some fucking reason it can also copy machines which are commonly used by that species. So when he turns into a slime creature the omnitrix also creates an anti-gravity thing so that he can control his shape

Oh and it can also copy species that are partially inorganic

And what would the imperium,the emperor and the Primarchs think?

I doubt it. As someone else pointed out he does have an omnipotent form but the problem with that is to do literally anything with that form he has to mediate between two entities that are complete opposites to do anything. I'd doubt he could pull off fixing all the problems in 40k because they would never stop arguing over every minor detail.

Outside of that he could still do something noteworthy. He could be able to turn the tide of a big battle. Could even made a huge impact at fighting orks or tyranids, but against chaos I would have doubts that he has the willpower to not be corrupted. I know he's got good morals and kept them even with great power but chaos is a completely different force. Him going crazy and joining chaos randomly? I'd doubt it would happen, but if he were to be exposed to it right in front of him? that's a different story.

I never watched every series of the show so I could be doing this on outdated information.

>Oh and it can also copy species that are partially inorganic
>partially inorganic

He can turn into a being of living energy, a machine, a ghost, hell, one of his forms is a fucking lego gorilla. At this point I don't think there's a limit to what can be copied.

Besides the Emperor putting some of his power on each of them, are the Primarchs even biologically human with all the insane crap even the ones who aren't psykers can do?

'no'

Does that mean the Primarchs are technically xenos?

Seeing that he's an immature arsehole who can't control himself to any reasonable degree at all, no. He'd probably fuck it up that every faction would be against him within the first day.

The omnitrix and its variants are fucking retarded strong.

However, you have to remember that the GhostFreak arc happened, and that was just a regular ghost alien. What would happen in 40k is that the watch would copy a demon and he would try to assume that form and immediately get irrevocably brain fucked by Chaos.

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2. Ask us to put together a portfolio of how the 40k universe will fuck you up.

3. Combine.

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5. Profit.

He can rewrite the DNA of everyone in the universe (including giving everyone Ork DNA to make them immune to Chaos), or create an explosion that destroys the universe.

So... possibly, and for multiple definitions of "fix" too.

He can assume a large number of extremely powerful and difficult to destroy or even damage alien morphological forms at will. The device he uses to do this is preloaded with over 10 thousand species, all of which posses at least situationally useful physical or metaphysical powers. At any point he has at least his own (relatively average) intelligence, but when adopting the form of a species with greater than human intelligence, his intellect is greatly augmented.

Notable forms include sapient magma, a shapeshifting humanoid crystal, multiple big tough monsters physically on par with or surpassing a titan, a tiny "grey" like creature capable of understanding complex technology at a glance and formulating extremely complicated yet reliable plans, a blob of plasma which can instantly integrate into seemingly any sized machine or cyborg (both assuming complete control of its features and dramatically improving its functionality), a cyborg which shits nuclear radiation everywhere, a 300 foot tall colossus that shoots laser beams, and an indestructible and nigh omnipotent extradimensional god (though he has extremely limited control over this form, to the point where the character vowed never to try it again after the first time)

The device he uses to do all this is a watch like device called the omnitrix, has other bizzare powers as the plot demands. At one point, he cured the infertility of an entire species of space nazis by integrating DNA information stored within it into their bodies, remotely (this rendered the device unusable due to lack of power for several hours).

However, the critical flaw that Ben would have in 40k is that he has basically zero psychic resistance. He has fallen to the whims of even low level psychics multiple times and has not shown a way to overcome them other than waiting for someone else to defeat the psychic. In fact, at one point he was controlled by the personality of an alien which was stored within the watch.

>And the omnitrix would copy any xenos he came across
Okay, here's a thought.
Could it copy a Chaos God?
What if there was 2 Chaos Gods of the same thing?

>Also, what about Tyranids? Aren't they constantly evolving as they devour the universe? How the fuck can the thr Omnitrix keep up with that bullshit?

He eventually replaces the Omnitrix with the Ultimatrix, which can create "Ultimate" versions of his alien forms by simulating millions of years of evolution in harsh conditions. So he could just morph into an Ultimate Tyranid and kill everything.

I was going to dismiss this but given the capabilities the omnitrix is shown to have I don't see why it would not work

The problem being how the fuck he's going to scan a Chaos God and the therapy he's going to need after transforming into one

He did used to have literally a ghost, so I guess being incorporeal isn't a problem for the device.

That being said it fucked with his head and ultimately escaped, nearly killing him and destroying the earth.

So, I guess, worst case scenario, Ben could end up accidentally duplicating one or more of the chaos gods, if he happened across one of them.

>The problem being how the fuck he's going to scan a Chaos God

If he found anything that generated a gellar field he could use one of the smarter forms to upgrade it and "safely" enter the immaterium.

Even if Ben couldn't proffesor paradox most definitely could. Not even chaos would be a problem since he's already been through the mind-breaking insanity bit before

I never stopped to think how bullshit the stuff in that show was

I the point was that he's a Doctor Who parody.

The ghost fucked with his head because its species had "sentient DNA". And eventually he managed to fix that.

I'm just saying the way it happened seemed awful similar to chaos bullshit

I thought it was a mix of "Dr" that had any time and space bending power. Like Dr Who or Dr Strange.

well in one episode of omniverse he did use Alien X powers without even convincing the Dual personalities of the Celestial Sapient.

Well that's dumb. Or was it actually justified, something they just would have immediately agreed to?

Well he was fighting against hybrids of rogue plumbers. And he was outnumber.

Do you think that an Ultimate Version of Eldar would be Slanneshi proof?

It might be Slaanesh.

That would be a Ultimate Dark Eldar.

I was expecting someone would say it would be like Ynnead.

Just wait for him to time out, then snipe him.

that could work initially but he would wreck face with someone like Ultrama-I mean, Way Big before thay happened.

Important question: What streaming service can I watch ben 10 on right now, because I haven't seen it in years.

ITT me discovering ben 10 had more than 2 different shows and that it somehow managed to reach power levels equal to if not greater to DBZ and DBS

KissCartoon might have it. and you can totally watch on your tv if you have chromecst

you're tellin me. some of the post-Alien Force guys are just insane.

Ultimate Ork Would be The Beast.

Ultimate Tau would be a Big ass space marine Tau or somwthing posibli a Gundam.

Ultimate Necron would be Kinda a Proto Ctan.

>literally a ghost
According to Derrick J. Wyatt, Zs'Skayr is a living being - the Ectonurite concept of "life" is just very different from most sentient life forms

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Where the fuck is the porn of him and his cousin already?!

This isn,t /co/pal.
But there is one already

They will never be Slaaneshi-proof

>KissCartoon
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He has an omnipotent, god-like form, if he could convince them to travel to one of the gods realms, he could easily do so and then if he touches one of the gods, if it possesses DNA, he would obtain a new form based on a Chaos god.

Most of the alien forms the Omnitrix creates possesses alterations that remove flaws or weaknesses of that particular alien. If he turned into a Tyranid, he would most likely be immune to the control of the Hivemind, and if he became a daemon, he would be most likely immune ot Chaos's corruption, that is, if the Omnitrix can even register a Daemon, since it needs a DNA signature

>mind-breaking insanity
I love that aspect of Professor Paradox's character. So crazy he's sane.
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Things to consider:

Mana exists on the B10 setting, and there is an entire realm of magic it is drawn from, which is quite tzeenchian.

The species made of mana, Anodites, do not have DNA, and cannot be scanned by the Omnitrix

Ben likely wouldn't be able to scan any daemons, and certainly not any of the gods he managed to meet their manifestation within their realm.

Even Professor Paradox likely is prohibited from interacting with he realms of Chaos, since he's also prohibited from even getting close to Celestialsapien. (500 Lightyear restraining order)

It occurs to me that Alien X is basically a C'Tan with multiple personality disorder

He is just gonna get shot in the head. Don't have to wait for him to turn back to human even, I doubt most of his aliens are 40k bulletproof. In the show he just always happened to have the extra tough aliens when he was being shot at. And if that fails, either Chaos corrupts him or some psyker breaks his mind.
Also every faction would instantly hate him. Except for Tau, but because he is such a do-good boy with a strong individual personality and stubborn as fuck, he'd soon piss them off when he'd start preaching on all the way Greater Good is wrong.

Better question; after Ben is inevitably Necron'd/blam'd/mindfucked/corrupted or destroyed by Chaos, what happens when an ork bonds with the Omnitrix?

By your own logic, that's like saying Ynnead would be the Ultimate Craftworlder, not Eldar.

Crafterworld eldar only live by denying half of their psychology. Dark Eldar only live by indulging that half in total excess. Technically speaking, only the dark eldar have a chance to live as their real selves, appreciating the full spectrum of their alien psyche. The problem is, only the ruthless survive Commorragh. It would take a Satellite Realm deldar, real-space residing deldar, or a corsair to be able to... well, be himself.

Come on anons, what about the most obvious problem:

>time limits

He can be full of all sorts of omnipotent alien magic, but the second he turns into a less-than-omnipotent form, he's going to instantly get skullfucked by the combined ire of chaos. And that's a "good end" so to speak, really he'd wind up getting kidnapped by some tech priest, and mind-raped into oblivion so he could become some sort of sentient weapon capable of singlehandedly destroying worlds, if he didn't simply get shot in the face first.

Bruh, Ben is practically Incorruptable Paladin of God Tier. Chaos ain't got shit on him.

So I didn't really watch the shows for a long time, but I'm pretty sure he literally became a delinquent in one of the episodes, leading to that rivalry with the mutant/alien kid.

What about NRG Is an alien made of Nuclear Radiation and yet is aviable. Also isnt ben part anodite and not fully Human.

Ben's 1/4 anodite but he didn't a full anodite form, only Gwen did

There's his Mary Sue future self who has full control of the omnitrix and access to the Ultimate version of humans (which apparently does nothing except allowing him to use all the abilities of all the species in the omnitrix without actually transforming into them), and also learned magic

Chaos.

>Fix 40K

The only way to "fix" it is to destroy it completely.

So, yes.

The last episode of Omniverse shows Ben Surviving a Weapon that already destroy his universe once. All Thanks By a Failsafe that azmuth install.

>Can he go Solo against 40k and Fix it.
He COULD, with the Omitrix granting almost literal omnipotence not to mention plot armor.

Is it likely? Probably not he would be too busy being pretentious little asshat. He would get out of every bad situation no doubt but at the end of the day he would never get any real shit done.

Heck Ben10 might even be THE BEST Saturday morning villain for 40K, he would never be truly defeated and never get caught but he would never achieve anything either because of the lack of his own arrogance and self control. All the while he was just trying fix shit but always get everything wrong. I would love to read shit like that.

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>Alien X, my most powerful transformation ever. But it isn't worth the price.

What price? All he lost was some time, after which he procured a free ticket to autosave the Earth, which he denied. All it took to solve the argument between them was to call them lazy assholes.

Probably not. Even if we grant that he's capable of defeating anything he comes across, will never get caught with his pants down between transformations or anything, and will never have the world hes on obliterated, he's still just one guy. Total tactical supremecy stretching from where Ben is standing out to the horizon in every direction is a big deal, but it's not going to be a "galaxy shifting" big deal, just a "in most cases, the side Ben is on will win the fight for this one planet" big deal.

Fixing the 40k galaxy requires a charismatic genius with enough institutional support and credibility withe every organization that the vast rats nest will facilitate their reforms not drag their feet and deploy assassins. One more super soldier isn't gonna cut it.

And Ben has approximately the charisma of a rabid badger wearing a fedora.

That's probably not going to work a second time, and if he used the transformation again he'd be stuck arguing constantly for thousands upon thousands of years so that the other personalities could manage to do anything

Dude. He has to argue for MILLENNIA inside of the the damn thing. He might lose too. Spend millenia sitting still doing jack shit as you argue over whether or not to save the dinosaurs

He is always in good relations with Serina is Bellicus who always want him to suffer for anything.

NRG has dna and isn't made of Mana. And as said, those manafolk specifically do not have DNA and cannot be scanned by the omnitrix.

Any human can learn to use magic, and ben outright doesn't have "the spark" so he's otherwise considered fully human even if descended from an Anodite grandmother.

>tfw you know the kid who was in the live action Ben 10 movie
>he's a douche who thinks he's better than everyone
>got made fun of and called Ben all the time at his high school

Did he get decent pay?

Isn't anything animo makes a mutant?

he made one sentient but generally he wants to turn Humanity in Hybrids of animals.

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So, I watched Ben 10 ages ago (around 2008 - 2009 iirc) and have seen most of the first series and part of the second. Around 2009 I moved out on my own and haven't really had TV.

From what I remember the first series was Ben and co as 10 year olds battling Vilgax. The second series was Ben and co in high school.

These newer series look like Ben's in middle school, what's up with that? Did they decide to go back and cover the stuff that happened in the time skip for two series? If so, why does Ben get a power down in high school?

Because some of his shit breaks the show

how about you kill yourself.

they jump back and forth through the timeline a lot along with the dramatic artstyle shifts. Quality is pretty spastic too.

good rule of thumb for if it's worth watching: do Ben and Gwen have some sort of vaguely uncomfortable incestuous romantic tension going on? if yes, this is probably one of the better seasons

...

mainly in the original Series and sometimes in the future self-specials.

Gwen was supposed to be his girlfriend but they changed for Well reason...

But he doesn't have a time out?

>Can he go Solo against 40k and Fix it.
Nah.

Tries to go full Emprah. Gets his motivations curb-stomped by bleakness of moral choices he has to take for literally trillions of humans. Eventually faces off the Chaos. Goes mad. Becomes a chaos plaything.

One good thing about 40k is that power levels matter very little in attempts to change the face of the galaxy, as "just doing good" Objectivist-style never works there.

What would The Emperor think of a Device like the Omnitrix.

The Omnitrix was originally made to improve inter-species relationships by letting the user experience different ways of life, so a few of them would probably help 40k given the Inquisition didn't hack the arm off the user and Exterminatus the planet

>cartoon network
>paying anyone
>ever

Are his aliens able to match the Primarchs?