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I've been playing in such a game for years. The game itself has been mostly amazing, far from perfect mind, but yeah, far better than the hell of flakey dms or groups that just don't stick together. I've seen some dms even get a group together designed to fail just to troll a known lolcow in an irc chatroom. I'm sure there are great games out there. But I have great games I feel are worth my money right here in front of me. It's worthwhile to me to spend that money. Not only do I get to have my fun now, I don't have to search for the right group anymore.

I'm honestly not interested in switching systems, mostly because I have a back log of character concepts I like I already know how to build in the system. As for taking a break, I am in 3 consistent games and mostly having a blast, so I don't see why I need to take a break. It's not like I'm actively looking for more games. I also don't see why people try to use the argument that I could get it for free or at the very least less than I already put in. I can also get food for less than If I went out to eat. But sometimes I would prefer to have the experience of eating food with my friends without making it myself. Sometimes they too wish for this experience. So how then are we to get that experience if none of us wishes to cook? It's pretty simple. You go to a restaurant.

Could people actually go back to making a new threat around page 8-9, rather than bitching "it's too early we're still on 10" or something?

I need a one shot module for a few level 5 players. Any recommendation for good modules? 3pp, 3.5, paizo are all acceptable.

Rappun Athuk

What the hell, Psybomb?
You told me you'll reply quickly. I'm waiting here in anticipation for over an hour already.

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Here senpaitachi

>swinging at shadows
No moron, the fact that you are acting like a monkey makes me superior to you, not the fact that I put more effort into my posts. It never ceases to amaze me how conceited groups of people who have the conceited scorn of others continues to behave holier than though. All you have to do to stop being inferior to me is no longer presume you are above others for having a different kind of fun.

>autistic rage
I provided a ballroom full of problems roll20 has, more than just image resolution.
The fact that you think the quickness of my reply has anything to do with me being angry or chomping at the bit is hilarious. It doesn't take much to reply to what is literally a couple retards laughing and acting smug and superior to hid the fact that when it came time to defend their ideas, they had nothing to say.

You're right, I'm not, but I do know them, and Earth Seraph Edna is their skype/google docs nick.

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Need opinions on this character. The last bit can be ignored (the mask is something the GM wants to give me). Also Beadth of Experience is approved despite being human.

But general thoughts? Really not sure on magic mouth.

>homebrew edition

Well shit, I need to make a ton more changes to the one I'm working on before I actually let it loose again. I do have that old Soulbound Doll construct companion alternative that never got much attention, though.
docs.google.com/document/d/19nO-febXa076vteES5CnpJIzxrPiR8Q0JrBbcKx2Nq4/edit?usp=sharing

I do have an important question related to what I'm brewing right now, though. How does /pfg/ like their magical girls, and what was the biggest disappointment of the Magical Child archetype?
Also, what would you want from a half-caster racial class/archetype for kitsune?

I respect your views on the subject, I disagree, but at least you aren't the other autist who was crying over models.

Holy shit user your not helping yourself

haha, wow. Is this bait?

Keep laughing, you belong in that cage.

thanks for allowing suggestions, now i can correct all your oppressive shitlord binary pronouns

>How does /pfg/ like their magical girls
With a decent spell list instead of a piece of shit.

CHA-based Magical Girl Harbinger archetype fucking when?

user now your picking posts at random did my apathy towards models seriously make you this angry?

n e v e r
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v e r n e
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r n e v e

The fact that they made homura and then simultaneously gave her the worst spell list causes a seething hatred in me.

Even eldritch scoundrel is better than this shit. The only reason to be a magical girl is to BECOME FAMOUS. If you don't give a shit about that oracle is still the best magical girl class. unless you like lightning damage.

Tell us?

I'm not picking posts at random.

>doxing someone over internet autism
Jesus christ just delete this post and go get a drink user.

Cool story bro. You didn't have to allow all of that to happen though. You let an autist control you and your group and then got butthurt enough to share your uninteresting story with /pfg/.

I enjoy how specific that answer was
Neato

This was from a story i found from back in 2013 offsite

Sword and board Antipaladin here again, did more thinking and decided Dazzing Display was just too feat intensive. I'd of been more comfortable if I was using at least a high crit weapon, but it just wasn't going to happen, so here we are now.

Antipaladin X/Lore Warden Fighter 1
Noble Scion of War
Power Attack
Shield Focus
1B Cornugon Smash
Hurtful
Furious Focus
Dreadful Carnage

The Fighter dip at 6 gets me "early" access to Cornugon Smash which seems beneficial. The inclusion of Furious Focus and Dreadful Carnage so far seems kind of up in the air since I don't particularly expect to be getting killing blows to take advantage of Dreadful Carnage, but, I should still be able to kill a mook or two to trigger the aoe demoralize.

Still accepting advice besides "use a 2h weapon". I've considered Quick Draw since then I could always 2h with my warhammer then since it's a free action to equip and uneqip my quick draw light shield, but it feels like such a wasted feat...

proof pls?

Was there information you were expecting that I wasn't providing m8?

Should I be more general about how you are flailing wildly? You seem to be having a giggle but lay off the bubbly, it's making you a little uncoordinated pal.

>How does /pfg/ like their magical girls

Neutral evil with fluffy tails.

Really, I don't understand where the summoner comes into it at all.

Even with a passing knowledge of the genre, magical girls either

>A. Fight hand-to-hand with their adversaries (play an Avenger)
>B. Are blaster-casters (play a Warlock)
>C. Use emotion or illusion-based magic (ie, WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU JUST GIVE IT THE BARD LIST?)

It's like yes, Magical Girls usually have a mascot animal, but Luna, Kero, Kyubey and most of those guys aren't battle companions, so they'd just be normal familiars with maybe a special ability or two, not the focal point of the class's fighting style.

Honestly they probably would have been better off making "magical change" a feat or a talent.

"Olelele! Olelele!!"

I'm quite honestly not sure if your expecting that calling me a drunk on this of all sites it an insult but ok. Now let's both crawl back into our respective holes before some tells us to fuck.

It is not especially secret. They partake in the IRC channel under the name Agata and add people to Skype fairly freely. I am unsure how I could sufficiently "prove" that to you in a way that would not also expose my own identity and make me a potential target for their autistic rage.

just fug alreagy :DDDDDDDDDDD

>Really, I don't understand where the summoner comes into it at all.
Card Captor Sakura is pretty much a Conjuration specialist Wizard, Paizo decided it should be a Summoner instead.

as far as I know evolution surge doesn't benefit familiars even in that archtype as well yes?

Honestly Most magical girls are full casters with high BAB and high physical stats. There was never a class that was going to do them justice, but the summoner list is honestly the jokest of jokes.

Synth summoner is ironically a better archtype to be a magical girl than a magical girl. Sure you don't get batman powers, but now most of your spells aren't shit because they do marginally help you, and you actually have a transformation sequence that is meaningful. Throw in some eldritch heritage for a familiar and you are golden.

Even if you hate synth, a dip is good enough and there are other abilities that are similar, like elemental body, or other transumation effects.

It's your conduct while drinking that is the problem, not alcohol. I don't have a hate boner for booze. It's one of the few things left I can smell while cooking with.

So /pfg/ what's the best way to use your undead besides combat, which is a given. I need some creative ideas, as I'm currently a fuckin idiot and can't think of any.

I am currently using the large sided necrocraft as combination storage/transportation(playing as a ratfolk), but seeing as I recently picked up an easy way to make undead(wand of animate dead) I wanted to see if you all had any ideas.

okay faggots I need to win a bet with a friend, how many of you ERP?

>conjuration wizard
nah, Sakura is at least 3/4ths bab, and is some kind of card based archtype or prc.
theres like a million of them now so I'm not sure which one would be best for her anymore, but yeah, Harrow caster of some kind.

Now we're just getting off topic

Yo.

is this in game or out of game?

either

As backup dancers for a villain song.

Well I do for one. you might have an easier time just posting a straw poll or something though.

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I made this like a month ago, posted it once and stopped bothering. I might as well post it again.

I have a custom-weapon creation system, where you use points to make a weapon. Still need to work on the pricing, but the math is good.

This system makes slings, crossbows and firearms viable like bows, and you can make weapons like the old spiked chain.

Basically you pick a weapon type (Simple, Normal or Exotic), a Weapon Group and spend the points on it. If you pick more that two 0 Point modifications, the third onwards cost 1 Point.

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Can Emergency Force Shield be used while flying?

The wording is kind of strange but since wall of force doesnt need to be anchored to the ground, my guess is that It does offer the same benefit

I am lovin' your autism.

strawpoll.me/10449640
ok

Anyone know where that crow warrior fae creature came from? I can't find it on the pfsrd.

>The fact that they made homura and then simultaneously gave her the worst spell list causes a seething hatred in me.

Why? She only ever spammed one spell in battle, used another exactly once to repair her vision, and then otherwise relied 100% on modern weaponry she burgled with that one spell she spams. She deserves a bad spell list because she's a bad magic user. Mami was the only decent caster of the group.

>If you pick more that two 0 Point modifications, the third onwards cost 1 Point.
Totally not stolen from Lemmy. :^)

Bestiary 4, iirc.

5, actually.

Oh, and I forget to say that Simple Weapons have 2 points to expend, Martial have 4 and Exotic 6.

The original idea is from Lemmy, I just expanded it. paizo.com/threads/rzs2szvc?Lemmys-Custom-Weapon-Generation-System

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I do with my boyfriend.

docs.google.com/document/d/1VJNynrpwteY3NLoXRMrPXkEdUZMJJxZokWidA16ef_w/edit#

Yeah, his idea is awesome! See

My character uses undead to pull chariots, carry her palanquin, digging, moving heavy loads, rowing, probing for traps, or making a good impression. People listen when you climb a staircase of skeletons to address them.

BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

Ah, ok.

What.

You mean the Vilderavn.

Do you guys know if there are classes and builds to make a cool magical cook?
So far I can only think of a few combinations using brew potions and a few instances of craft wondrous items, using classes like witch or artisan. Anything to expand the range of effects beyond 'i prepare stuff you gargle down to heal and buff yourself?'

I read that as cock and was about to suggest an unarmed strike build.

Thanks, are the bestiary's all on pfsrd, or are the books in the pastebin? And anyone else got good ideas for tough fae warriors?

All excellent ideas, thank you, I was think of making wheel skeletons for transportation, so a chariot/skelecart will be perfect

linebreaker is a half orc spell
Blood scent is an orc spell
savage maw is a half orc spell
heart of metal is probably gorum but not sure
unsure if mask from detection is a pathfinder spell but seers bane is mephistopholes and that seems to be the closest equivelant.
sacred space is aasimar.
windy escape is sylph.

there may be more but those stood out of to me as all spells that cannot be cast without a line authorizing their use. Just because these are on your spell list doesn't mean you can cast them without meeting the prerequisites.

All 5 bestiaries can be found on both the SRD and the PRD.

So any thoughts?

How tough are we talking, and how fae? I like Dullahans a lot myself, though they are technically undead they're also considered a type of fairy in folklore. Nuckelavees make good "mounted" enemies as well, and Redcaps are classic killers. None of them is as strong as the Vilderavn, though. He's like end boss-tier.

>durr I'm a keep laughing
k.
She used a force missle effect, burst of wind or dispel magic to disperse gass. She also has inhuman strength and abilitity (as shown by being a cripple with a golf club wrecking a steel drum)

Mami also uses ribbons as her special ability, she turned those into guns. Theres no reason homura cant do the same. At the end of the series without her shield she had a bow and feather fall, She does otherwise rely on a 9th level spell at all times though, so I guess that makes her a weak caster.

Finally got the response, hard to get references in work computer. Anyway, the Greater Extra Arms example has the offhand only getting 0.5x Str. Prodigious TWF would bring that up, but base is reduced

>strawpoll.me/10449640
>ok
this isn't what I said yes to, so I'm going to vote no one this.
If you don't want skewed results, you probably shouldn't stick your dick into the experiment. I'm sure it makes your fee fees feel good but acting condescending to one side of the vote tally isn't going to make them want to tell you anything.

>Anyway, the Greater Extra Arms example has the offhand only getting 0.5x Str.
Why the fuck?
You can just as well wield two off-hand weapons to get 0.5x on each.
And by core rules of multiplying and additive stacking, it's +0.5x and -0.5x, resulting in 1x total.

Moreover, Prodigious TWF doesn't mention that anywhere.
Literally quoting that feat for your blindness:
>Benefit: You may fight with a one-handed weapon in your offhand as if it were a light weapon. In addition, you may use your Strength score instead of your Dexterity score for the purpose of qualifying for Two-Weapon Fighting and any feats with Two-Weapon Fighting as a prerequisite.

small eidolon is ass.

>dev how does this work????
>NO THAT'S WRONG THIS IS HOW IT WORKS

He referenced an entirely unrelated feat.

Need it for stealth. He isn't a combat eidolon so he only gets summoned when it's espionage time.

then be another class instead, and pick up a familiar. theyre tiny, don't lose hit points the further away from you they get, will have the support of familiar effects that can teleport them back to you if shit goes wrong, can fit in a familiar pouch.

just no.

It's not +0.5x and -0.5x. Wielding a weapon two-handed lets you add 1.5x your Strength to your damage. Off-hand attacks (made using Two-Weapon Fighting) add 0.5x your Strength to damage. Depending on order of operations, you either deal 1.5x Strength damage, or 0.5x Strength damage.

Prodigious Two-weapon Fighting has nothing to do with that.

Wrong feat, meant Double Slice

d20pfsrd.com/basics-ability-scores/glossary#TOC-Multiplying
As per core rules, that translates into +0.5 -0.5.

I'm thinking for mooks, like something kinda tough. I can use fae ish elves for most multi-purpose things, but I want some signature heavy infantry sort of things.

Then why would Double Slice reduce the damage of the primary weapon (as you said explicitly)?
That doesn't make any sense.

It's not multiplication in this case, it's just doing 1/2 of a modifier or 1-1/2 of a modifier. That's different from something doubling or tripling damage.

>only ERP with my girlfriend
So.. No, then.

No. Small Skill-dolon is incredibly effective at winning at skills.

Just use your summon monster ability in combat.

You better have a full list of all the monsters you can summon, as well as adjusted stat blocks of them already printed out and ready to go otherwise you will make the game incredibly slow and boring.

You also can't really be the main damage dealer with your summon monsters, but move-blocking, tripping, etc will seriously help your team.

Well, Power Attack is explicitly worded as multiplication:
>This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon, a one handed weapon using two hands, or a primary natural weapon that adds 1-1/2 times your Strength modifier on damage rolls.
>This bonus to damage is halved (–50%) if you are making an attack with an off-hand weapon or secondary natural weapon.

Then maybe he's wrong and someone needs to cite a correct answer. As he said, he's posting from his work computer. Devs are not infallible.

Get the real rules so everyone can be right.

>Trying to build a paladin on 20 point buy without dumping

This is a lot harder than I thought it'd be. What's a good array if I want to still be a good paladin but also have decent dex, wis, and int?

There is no multiplication happening. A value is being set to either 1.5, or 0.5.

That's not relevant to figuring out how much of your Strength you add to your damage. Like, at all. The fuck?

>I need to have literally every stat high
K E K

>i want to have a high str and cha
>and still have a high dex, wiz and int
um...you can't. Unless you think 12 is high.

Don't? If you want your character to be above average at literally everything, they're not going to be especially good at anything. That's how this works.

Dump STR and build DEX.

You can't, you fucking mongoloid.