At local gamestore to commission a painter for a custom model I got done

Nice well thought out response.
I didn't even put up the ad brah

My first idea would be to interpret it as "no trannies", but you're probably right too.

Fuck off to /v/, shithead

Image of this poster

Every tranny I've played with or known has been completely insufferable.

Even if it doesn't directly mean trannies they all end up fucking mental after fucking their brain up with hormones.

The ones on Veeky Forums don't sound too bad.

You've never played with one.

Do you keep your dick in a jar, or do you just throw it out?

They turn it inside out and shove it in senpai.
Haven't you seen the webm?

As a complete sperg, I'm full of shrugs about this. While it's unfortunate to discriminate against particular vulnerable populations, they can make the game pretty unfun. On the flip side, I don't really care because if I wanted to play with that group, I can handle my mental illness just fine, and when I can't I just wouldn't show up to games. It shouldn't be a defining feature for you as a human being, the same way being a weeb shouldn't define you, or smoking weed shouldn't define you. People who tend to define themselves that way are generally dicks, and I can understand not wanting to associate with them.

Hey you know what sucks?
Playing with narcoleptics.
Dealing with actual spergs.
Having to go slow for people with dyslexia.

All trannies are bad, don't lie to yourself.

People with dyslexia who prepare themselves can usually get along pretty well in my experience. I've even met one who printed out a variety of rules that would be relevant in a font that was made to be easier for dyslexics to read, which was smart of him. Then again I've never gamed with people with such horrible dyslexia they were practically illiterate either.

Autists aren't really people. I say this as an austist

I think thats against the law

not yet tumblrina, people have right to hang with who they like

I think that's implied for most groups.

What? You don't consider being trans a mental disorder?

Nope, private functions like a fucking group hang out don't need to be inclusive fortunately.

Depends. Most, if not all, states have laws in place for private businesses to run pretty much how they see fit so long as they do not violate the wording and spirit of Federal/State law in regards to profiling/discrimination. The problem with mental disorders is that they are not binary in nature. i.e. Are you Black y/n? Are you Male/Female? Things like that. Mental disorders operate on a sliding severity scale ranging from It's Fucking Nothing to Get the Wrangler it's out of the Cage again. Most states do not want to officially fuck with trying to classify different disorders and their severity. It would be a legal nightmare on it's own, let alone the people who would try and abuse the shit out of it like they do now with Wellfare/Snap/EBT and other programs.

This fine user right here is an example what steps to take and how to manage oneself when you have a diagnosed disability. Good on you, user.

I guess it's an attempt to keep nutters at bay and avoid those uncomfortable "we are literally kicking you out of our gaming group for being a problem child" conversations.

I'm a forever DM my last player I booted was completely disruptive for no reason. Attacking or gravely insulting NPCs for no real reason. Arguing with other players, arguing with me about rules. He made it 4 sessions. I talked to him privately after each session about his behavior. Nothing worked. This was a grown man in his 30s too not done kid.

>2016
>Still playing with paddies
>literally playing Irish propaganda about stealing jobs from honest hardworking Americans

Well, the main issue is that it's not a store putting up the ad, nor does it sound like a store sponsored event. It's a private game, run by private citizens, who can accept or reject anyone they see fit.

>tfw when depression and anxiety disorder

I've played with one. They're a bit weird and focus on some strange things, but overall they're a pretty good GM.

The sign said "no SERIOUS mental/social disorders"

I say this as a person with depression

>serious disorders
>depression and anxiety
If you had either of those to a "serious" degree you couldn't handle being in a gaming group to begin with.

Look, is it really a disorder? A disorder just really means 'it affects your ability to live a normal life.' And a doctor confirms it and all that. It doesn't necessarily mean that you're too scared to even roll a dice, or you're always sad. If you're just a little nervous around people or a little sad, can you call that a disorder? If you're anywhere between those, you can probably handle being in a game.

It's a disorder only if it hinders your ability to function in life.

Attracting shit from prejudiced tards like you doesn't count, or else being black would be a physical disorder.

>tfw literally diagnosed with aspergers
>tfw most people don't notice
>tfw one of the better RPers in my group.

"Serious" means that it significantly inhibits your ability to do whatever is being discussed. As long as it's not stopping you from attending sessions, paying attention, or doing other things necessary for full participation in tabletop RP, then it's okay.

Oh boy, here we go

Gaming with someone with Dyscalculia, is frustrating too. "Whats 7 + 8?" Sincere goddamn question that was asked last game.

>posts on Veeky Forums
>assumes other posters don't think being black is a physical disorder

I don't know what you think people here are like, but it's worse than whatever you're assuming.

Have you tried giving them a calculator? Or even just telling them to use the one in their phone?

>I AM ANGRY ABOUT ANOTHER MAN'S TOY SOLIDERS

Welcome to Veeky Forums

I see the reasoning, but I'm halfway certain that's not legal to do

Gamed with one that was pretty solidly post-transition. Pretty solid as a DM, but my only criticism was choice of system and general lack of experience.

And to be fair, the choice of system was a homebrew my friend made before he started hacking other systems, before he realized that, while trying to build a new system for every homebrew setting he wanted to make was something he felt he needed to do, he was shit at building systems and what he built essentially boiled down to "shittier Cortex."

I'm not a lawyer™, but I'm pretty sure, businesses can somewhat discriminate against mental disorders when it could harm others/the individual and/or damage property. E.g. I can imagine that a paintball arena or a GoKart track or something similar can deny service to someone mentally handicapped. Thinking about it, that might even be handled by that waiver-thing you usually have to sign before using one of those*. I'm mostly talking out of my ass here, though.

*(in the US at least, I remember goin on a GoKart track in Greece, not only did they gave zero fucks, the guy just pocketed the money without receipt, pretty sure the government never saw a cent of that transaction)

Nearly the entirety of the group I'm playing with, including me, has some form of mental illness, and they are all fantastic people to play with.

Pretty much this. If it's not severe enough to affect play, then it's not severe enough to be notable and get you kicked out unless you make the entire experience about your problems.

Note the qualifier of "serious". That gives the store wiggle room to determine what is unacceptable or intolerable levels of "mental disorder".

Holy hell, do you live in Sweden or something? Where the fuck is this PRIVATE ad not legal?

...

>*(in the US at least, I remember goin on a GoKart track in Greece, not only did they gave zero fucks, the guy just pocketed the money without receipt, pretty sure the government never saw a cent of that transaction)
This is why Greece is flat-fucking-broke. Also, awesome.

What autist obeys a "no autists" sign? The kind that would be ok to hang out with.

Fuck, I've been that guy. I can do single digits or numbers that're close together since I can count on my fingers, but if they're bigger numbers I've gotta write it down, and even then it takes me a bit.

Math's hard yo.

Narcoleptic here. Whats wrong with playing with narcoleptics. Genuinely curious cause i've never gotten complaints and i'm in the worst category for narcolepsy.

>Genuinely curious cause i've never gotten complaints
That's because they save their bitching for when you pass out.

>/v/

Thats not a thing so i'm assuming you've never actually played. The only time that IS a thing is in terminal cases and they wouldn't be physically able to drive themselves places unless you legitimately play with people who's parents give them rides.

Did you hear? They don't actually diagnose Asperger's anymore.

Depression and Anxiety can be awful dude. When it's severe enough Depression can mean not being able to get out of bed, and Anxiety can get bad enough that you're too nervous to leave the house.

Not saying everyone is like this, but calling it "a little nervous" or "a little sad" is a huge understatement

This. I'm honestly worried that I might actually have dyscalculia but I think it's more likely than not that I just never tried that hard at math

You sure showed him

this

You do realize that the "proof" they're talking about isn't just the concept of "proof" as a general concept, but the concept of being required to prove that oneself is transsexual, right?

Put another way, they're also saying that it's not OK to lambaste people just for being cis-het, because you can't be sure that they're not actually trans/LGB, and requiring proof that they are would be discriminatory, invasive, and morally wrong. Taking "proof" and "hugely problematic" and blowing them up like that misrepresents the argument. This is why people tell you to go back to /v/.

return to tumblr from whence you came

>assuming most people are happy with their gender
>problematic

I feel like these LBQTSADJFLSK;HF;LEJRFLK people don't know that there is a real world outside of Auistin and San Fran

So its okay lambaste cis-hets when you DO know they're cis-het? I thought you guys were against discrimination based on sexual orientation.

That's a good point if they're talking about people in general. Considering that they're saying something about "representation," though, it sounds a lot like they're responding to somebody calling for more explicit representation of trans individuals in some kind of media, which would mean a lot of characters showing up and saying "by the way, I am trans." This person is saying that's unnecessary. I can agree with them on that much: nobody likes tokenism, having trans characters for the sake of having them is obnoxious. I don't think anybody ITT is interested in more characters who are openly and expansively trans just for the sake of "representation," of whom "being trans" is their entire character.

I feel with you on that bit about the "real world" sometimes. I go to a liberal arts college, I know how this stuff can be sometimes. I'm just saying this cap in particular does not seem all that bad to me at all, not like the ladies who want guys castrated en masse or whatever. In a sense, I guess I'm just saying that compared to all the other radfem/SJW horror images out there, this one is actually really tame.

If you are only capable of seeing people and their opinions in terms of shitty divisive cliques, it is you who belong to tumblr, not I

>you guys
I wouldn't really count myself an SJW. I'm just reading this person's tweets, what I have of them here, and trying to see their point. I don't really know how they'd respond to that question. For my own part though, of course that's not OK. I'm pretty much anti-lambasting, to be honest.

>At local gamestore to commission a painter for a custom model I got done
You can commission painters to do your models for you? I had no idea. I kinda thought painting the models part of the point of making them in the first place.

Its my hero forge models, greyscale

They cost a lot and I really like them, too much to waste them on my painting skills

Playing someone who is any of the lgbtbbq stuff in an RPG is similar to playing any other special snowflake race. It's your fetish, its to push an agenda, or your That Guy in 99% of cases. I don't want your m2f any more than i want your chaotic evil dragonborn sorcerer paladin warlock with psychic powers.

I was more saying nonbinary's as "you guys". I thought their whole deal was being against gender and orientation discrimination.

I have some serious mental conditions, but they're managed fine with medication. I'm not sure if I would be welcome in that game or not.

Not OP, but just curious.

>Like the gook who weaves for friendly games of magic

At least use the right Asian slur.

Why would you be referring to nonbinary people with "you guys," though? I'm not nonbinary. What gave you that impression?

That sounds about right, yeah. Personally speaking, most of the games I run stick to PG-13 stuff, so the only actual references to sexuality are usually gay jokes courtesy either of my group's resident fujoshi. It's funny, I think she makes more gay jokes than the group's actual gay guy.

I guess I wouldn't necessarily mind having somebody roll up a trans character, but it'd be a real bitch to incorporate "explicitly" without either being a) weirdly unrealistic or b) weirdly off-tone. The only way to handle it would be to make it realistic, and by doing so alter the tone and probably the setting significantly, so I think the snowflake comparison is pretty apt unless the whole group is in on/cool with it. It'd also probably be a pain in the ass to roleplay even then, and I'm not sure if the experience would be worth the trouble to try.

Why are people even talking about trans people? What has that to do with mental disorders?

Being trans or gay or whatever in itself doesn't make you an insufferable person. It only makes a difference if that person is being a fucking insufferable cunt about it. But people can be insufferable cunts over anything. Just visit the meta-critic user comments.
sums it up pretty well.

I've encountered more vegans that are insufferable cunts about being vegans or Christians about being Christians, or edgelord Atheists about being Atheists or even edgelord anti-SJW about being anti-SJW; than anybody being a insufferable cunt over their sexual orientation or the way they identify. Not that I would mind lumping all of those people in as "mentaly disabled losers" that I don't want to have in my campaign.

>Why are people even talking about trans people? What has that to do with mental disorders?

Because it's a mental "disorder". Or at least, a mental difference from "normal" or the vast majority of humans.

>Being trans or gay or whatever in itself doesn't make you an insufferable person.

Neither does having a mental disorder. Yet here we are.

>but it'd be a real bitch to incorporate "explicitly" without either being a) weirdly unrealistic or b) weirdly off-tone.
I think it depends on the game. I could see it being handled pretty easily in a standard D&D game.
>Character has always felt uncomfortable in their own skin
>Decides to become an adventurer because that is the only way they can see to get enough money together pay a wizard to cast polymorph on them and give them a body that makes them look how they feel.

That is lazy bullshit. I'm hosting a post-apo campaign. One of my players wanted to play a white guy, but how the stats in the system works he was "forced" to play a black guy. The player happens to be gay. I threw him some male eye candy bone and he bit it and the following encounters resulted in a lot of amusement for everyone involved and actually kickstarted a smaller "side-quest" for the entire party.
That NPC might aswell have been female, but by making the NPC male, the player not only had some fun, but also understood very fast what I was trying to put in motion there.

If you refuse to cater to the interests of your players, you're a bad fucking GM. And that counts as both their individual interests and their individual interests in relationship to the interests of the group and the individual interests of other players. If that sounds like to much work, than you shouldn't be the GM or at the very least you won't be a very good GM. Works well enough for those Pathfinder society and convention bullshit though.

In conclusion: A gay character is not in itself a special snowflake.
Thaaaat all said: If someone wants to be an actual "special snowflake" and the GM and the group are not okay with that and/or they're being a fucking pain in everybody's ass, then yeah, fuck that person.

Actually, come to think of it, this is a good opportunity to ask something that has been seriously bothering me for a while now re: players with problems possibly preventing them from playing P&P.

One day, a link to an article caught my eye about Roleplaying with Blindness. I missed the article, but ever since then I've become very, very anxious from the realization that being blinded would likely COMPLETELY screw me over re: TRPGs, or 90% of my hobbies. You can't read grids, dice rolls (do Braille dice exist?), character sheets, spell descriptions, or even the GM's expression when he says "Are you sure about that?" TRPGs aside, trading card games and board games would also be impossible.

Does anybody know anything about this? I don't think this question necessarily deserves its own thread, but I might make one anyway if nobody ITT knows anything.

I remember an article somewhere about a blind guy who plays MtG by braille-ing his sleeves

Huh, you're right. I guess I was assuming there would be angst involved because my understanding was that dysphoria is a really shitty experience, but I guess severe trauma isn't exactly an integral part of it.
That seems true as well. You can't be a good GM if you can't incorporate your player's desires for their characters. I'd still be worried about any chaotic evil characters tho because they probably won't get along with the party unless they're evil too

>Neither does having a mental disorder. Yet here we are.

While I don't actually disagree with that, for me, the difference lies in the fact that sperglords and spectrum-riders are in their very nature antisocial. Spergers need drugs and/or effort to be social in a group of people. The gay guy does not.

A mental disorder's nature is disruptive to the social gathering. A persons sexuality is not by nature disruptive.
Of course, I'm fucking simplifying and generalising on Veeky Forums here.

Nah see, it's just one giant red flag. It says "i'm different, look at me", same as people who play "so wacky" characters like gnome barbarians and the like. It doesn't mean "you can't play", but it DOES mean im going to be watching you much more carefully to pull the plug

MARKED CARDS MARKED CARDS

JUUUUDGE!

>gnome barbarians

I lol'd. I'd allow this.

Are you misreading it on purpose? It says "serious mental/social disorders", not "mental disorders in general".

In all honesty; I don't think you're actually wrong, hell I think in practice you're very much right and I'm doing the same.

In the end, it really just comes down to group dynamic and people being on the same page through actual talking with each other. If people would just talk more to each other and listen more, most problems would be solved (fuck, I sound like some dirty hippy, I feel like throwing up). And while not all, some That Guy™-problems could be solved. Sure, some That Guy™s are just fucking assholes, but most That Guy™s I hear of and encounter, just expect something completely different from the game then the rest of the group and fail at reading the dynamic and social ques in the group.

Now of course, especially with strangers, that dynamic is impossible to know until you're a couple of hours into the game. It get's even worse with RP newbies or even worse; RP newbies that don't want to actually be there (the "DM's Girlfriend" problem, doesn't need to be female or in a relationship with the DM).

OP was after all simply a LFG posting "No serious mental disorder" and while even there "the group needs to talk more and be on the same page" remains true, turning down the people with the slightest of red flags is more than appropriate. And even I have to say "my character is gay" is at least a small red flag if I don't know the person.

I've had a couple autists in my games before. One of them couldn't decipher body language or tone, and if you made a high pitched noise like a whistle or squeal she would straight up backhand you across the face. She did that to me twice before I asked her to stop coming. The other was... I'm not even sure really. He was some tiny ninth grader who wore rubber boots and had coke goggles. Dude was the best roleplayer in the group but had a shit ton of issues. The one that crossed the line was he got enraged by PDAs, which was bad cause we had an incredibly flirty gay couple in the game as well. (It was an art school in Canada, the LGBTQS Alliance made up the vast majority of the RPG club. Shit ton of furries to come to think of it.) Anyhoot, while cleaning up after a session they started kissing and the kid screams, picks up a chair and tries to huck it at them. Luckily I managed to get hand on it and it spun off in a different direction. Thank God the club supervisor was there, she restrained then calmed him down and called his parents.

About a month or two after that he transferred to the city's special school and I never saw him again.

>I guess I was assuming there would be angst involved because my understanding was that dysphoria is a really shitty experience, but I guess severe trauma isn't exactly an integral part of it.
Well, there probably would be, but it wouldn't need to be any worse than any other "I am adventurer because something shitty happened in my past" backstory.

>tfw saying you wont allow mental disorders in is violation of ADA
>tfw sued into oblivion
>tfw starbucks opens up in the opened up shop

It's not against any law tard. Private groups can choose who they do and don't associate with.

The ad is for a game not a job.

And forcing people to accept certain others into their group will make them up and leave in a flash. I don't associate with spastics myself, and I'm autistic. I spent a decade of my life learning how to behave, and I expect the same from them.

Can't do that? Get out of my society.

Tumblrettes aren't trannies, they're attention seekers. Real ones are perfectly normal aside from wanting a sex change.

>tranny detected

oh look, an Ork

thats just about the least normal thing you could want to do