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First for everyone makes a mistake once in a while

First for free chainaxes.

Anyone has experience with Tamiya paints? I might use them to make Alpha legionnaires.

You monster. Do you not know what you're doing?

daily reminder

What do you want to know?

The regular paints, the clears, the primers?

>That TS realising he became a monster right before being killed by Constantin Valdor

See, that's the HH stuff I want to see, a beautiful greek tragedy, not some daddy issue bullshit.

my old post

I just finished Legion in the novels, been wet with excitement to actually get a fists legion playable.

Tfw haven't actually played yet

...

Mostly their clear and the light mettalic blue.
I prime all my stuff by brush with the Vallejo liquid primer, weather is not nice enough to use any sprays around here.

n o

le epic bald man =/= lorgar

fiennes is good at playing villains, and he could do a very good sympathetic true to form lorgar performance.

Morning sickness is not a beaut!

>47857424
Sorry for the late reply, but that sounds really helpful, thanks!

>You monster
>Yes
Beautiful.

Do you have an airbrush?

If yes, the usual recipe:
Start with the metal
- Prime black
- Base with a dark metal of your choice (Vallejo Model Air Gunmetal, Black Metal, etc.)
- Zenithal highlight of a medium metal
- Very careful highlight of a light metal

Pick your poison for the clear hue
- Mix 1:1 clear green with tamiya thinner and apply from top like the light metal highlight, or do a zig zag pattern, or whatever you fancy.
- Mix 1:1 clear blue, do complete coats.
- Repeat the blue till you are happy. Or do the blue first then the green. Or skip the green. Or add some violet in there. Or whatever you want, have fun.

If you don't have an airbrush:
- God have mercy upon your soul.

Well shit wish me luck then.

Is it really impossible to achieve it without an airbrush? Brush strokes become way too visible?

I was hoping to do like pic related. Would the first step be impossible to achieve smoothly by brush?

Will we ever see the Defilotron's origin? It's these guys, right? These guys are maybe my favorite model ever.

But Phil Collins even sounds like Lorgar, not to mention the looks.

Given the standard image for How 2 Painting Alpha Legion apparently doesn't involve an airbrush, you might be okay.

That's one of the ugliest models GW has ever done.

If you use the metallic paint you should be alright actually. Practice a few times.

If I remember, the poster from B&C doesn't use an airbrush.

Naaaah Lorgar is meant to be young, with a skin more bronze than white, and a thinner face, oval, not completely round.

you mean the defiler?

It was custom-made specifically for the 13th black crusade.

But will he have the BEARD OF EVIL™!?

The Onager Dune-Crawler?

AKA, the M.U.L.E.

Hahaha I fucking wish, I actually tried that technique, it didn't worked out at all for me.

Metal was never the right colour. At first too silver, and when I got to a proper blue tint, the colour was still not uniform and too thick because of the half dozen or so blue glazes that were required.
I genuinely don't know how that user got such a good result.

Not sure if I should post in the new or old thread.

I actually bought the extermination (sp?) book and was looking at these guys. Currently drooling over all the fists art.

Is it just a tactical marine with different weapons? I kind of look forward to different paint schemes.

I really like shields.

reposting to keep context continuity

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion REEEEEEE
Yes. It was?! As in, 10 000 years were spent without any defilers at all?
Fun story: Arkhan Land (the re-discoverer of the Land Speeder and Land Raider) named and designed the M.U.L.E inspired on what he though real mules were:

Insectile beasts of burden.

After millenia of radiation, maybe they had become insects though. Or perhaps he was missinformed, somehow.

r/ing Angels of Caliban
For Luther!

I'm not sure if I'd be okay with pack Crabs.

Poor luther, I just read descent of angels and legion.

Felt bad for poor luther

breachers need to be able to take rhinos.

if they could take rhinos it would almost make up for them being stupidly overcosted

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess.

40k-style Land Raiders were supposedly just starting to enter construction as the Heresy began, and would have been more common by the Siege of Terra – the Fists’ biggest battle of all. Just use them as Land Raider Phobos, which come in two looks but are functionally the same. Mark VII tactical power armor was out by then, too. That battle would have actually looked a lot like 40k, at least according to the old fluff. We’ll see what FW decides to do. (The Emperor’s Children and World Eaters might be in their 40k colors by then.)

Breachers are expensive in terms of money, and there aren’t separate upgrade kits you can combine with tactical marine minis (even though they’re basically Mk III tac marines with shields). The arms wouldn’t work, I’m guessing. A lot of people are hoping that plastic breachers will be in the next Betrayal at Calth-like box this fall, but it isn’t 100% confirmed. If money’s an issue, wait and pray.

The Eye of Horus podcast had a good episode on Imperial Fists.

Breachers are cool - they look great and have lots of options - unlike 30k tacticals they can take special equipment, and their DT option is a Land Raider.

The problem is that they are expensive as fuck - much like Assault marines, someone got the numbers wrong, and while there's hope for correction, for the moment they remain cool but impractically costly (though if you play ZM they rock, apparently)

Imperial Fists love shields, of all sorts (they're one of only two legions to get storm shields) - if they form up with them, they get tougher and better.
They also have a unique unit equipped with shields, but this somewhat overshadowed by one of the other unique units that are also shieldmarines

>there aren’t separate upgrade kits you can combine with tactical marine minis
forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Space-Marine-Boarding-Assault-Upgrade-Set

Not to mention that Phalanx Warders and Templar Brethren are both upgrade kits as well... good job the Fists are the legion most able to have Mk VII, I guess (not going to lie, it's a little lame they don't have any full kit units)

I love Magnus so much. He's a mess.

Oh that would be perfect, a podcast I could listen to on crunch. Do you have a link or is it just "eye of horus" podcast?

If I could have a wall of shields with range behind it that would be cool.

What do you mean by numbers are wrong? What is "special equipment"?

Sorry for all the preguntas

>It was?! As in, 10 000 years were spent without any defilers at all?
correct

I'd grab photos of the article in white dwarf from when defilers were new, but I don't care enough.

>mfw people try to tell me BaC legs are better than the FW ones
>mfw people try to tell me they won't make the marines look like stumpy retards

if you want to run breachers with IF run stone gauntlet right of war to give them all T5. its about the only way to make breachers useful.

the problem with breahers is that the units cost too many points, 250 points for 10 of them base, compared to 150 for tactical marines. and the only transports they can take are landraiders, which are also overcosted points-wise.

what does "stone gauntlet right of war to give them all T5" mean?

How important are transports? The only one I have is a 40k land raider.

If I have enough time I might show the calth ones I have already painted.

Why is Vulcan white?

THICK marines > noodle marines

epic meme my friend

Tamiya's acrylics are designed for airbrushing and need to be diluted with rubbing alcohol, not water. I wouldn't brush them. A good finish isn't impossible with other acrylics, it just might take an extra coat or two.

>wet with excitement
Dangling for Dorn. Fappin' for the Fists. Ready for a reaming from Rogal.

My vote is for Kevin Spacey to play Lorgar. Or maybe Erebus.

>what does "stone gauntlet right of war to give them all T5" mean?
when you build a list, if you take a HQ who has master of the legion you get a rite of war, its kind of like chapter tactics. the IF have one called stone gauntlet where all models who have shields get +1 toughness.

transports are important because people take thudd guns and various tanks that can easily infantry on foot

Standing thick > standing noodle > squatting noodle > squatting thick

Not too sure on the last two. Noodle thighs or not, the walking FW legs are way better than the squatting GW ones. The GW walking ones like in the HQs and assault marine box are the best though.

Ah shit. Thanks for warning me. I'll try to see what I can do, but I'll get my mind on a back up plan then.

Ahh okay. I have sigismund as the guy I have planned to be my HQ. Would that mean breachers would be a bad idea?

From what I recall, if an enemy warmaster goes down he buffs my whole army

Plastic anything > resin anything

this 2bh
>I have sigismund as the guy I have planned to be my HQ. Would that mean breachers would be a bad idea?
nope. sigismund is always a good idea, hes probably the best non primarch character in the game. he can take the stone gauntlet rite of war, he just doesnt get +1 toughness, which he doesnt need anyway since he has eternal warrior.

basically a stone gauntlet list would want to focus on breachers and terminators with stormshields. add in whatever vehicles and other stuff you want.

>What do you mean by numbers are wrong?
A minimum breacher squad, naked, is half again as expensive as a naked minimum tactical squad, and is not particularly points-efficient

When I say more options, I mean things like Meltas and Flamers - 1 in 5 can take them, whereas a tactical squad is all bolters.
They can also take melta bombs and breaching charges and things
This is nice, but it adds to their already-expensive cost.

Overall, it's a nice unit that's just a bit too expensive for what it does most of the time

As points out, if anyone can make Breachers work, it's the Fists - with an HQ that has Master of the Legion you can take an option that limits your list but boosts your army, for the Fists one of their Rites of War includes (but has more than) the following:

>Resolve of Stone:
Anyone with either a Boarding Shield or Storm Shield in coherency with two other models which also have shields gains +1 Toughness. This bonus can't be used if the unit the model is part of runs, charges, or makes a Sweeping Advance.

>Shield Charge:
A model which fits the criteria for Resolve of Stone also gains Hammer of Wrath. Useful for your TH/SS Terminators. With your Breachers and Phalanx, you should enjoy your T5 Resolve of Stone and let the enemy charge be minced in Overwatch. Don't forget that Breacher Hardened Armour has a -1" charge penalty, so only charge with them if you really need to.

Breacher Squads are the only permitted compulsory troops

With a few other things. Basically it's shield love

Every legion has its own special Adeptus Astartes (insert legion here) special rule. On top of that, there are Rites of War (RoW) you can take that give your army a boost. There are a few general ones, like if you want to take Predator tanks as troops, and every legion has a couple as well. Stone Gauntlet is an Imperial Fist-specific RoW. It should be somewhere in the Extermination book. These guys go into it: agalaxyinflames.[b l o g s p o t].com/2015/09/imperial-fists-tactics-rite-of-warstone.html (Veeky Forums has something against that site, so fix the URL yourself)

You'll need some mobility. Obviously the guys behind the wall can stay there, but you'll probably need more than just one Land Raider. Spartans are very popular, especially upgraded with survivability mods (Flare Shield) and carrying a death star unit. Mostly because Land Raiders can't carry a full squad if it has a character attached, which is annoying.

>Bale Rane knew that death would probably hurt. War would probably hurt. Breaking up with your brand new bride and leaving her to go off to war, that would hurt too. Like a bastard.
>He never, ever, in a million light years, expected treachery to hurt so much.

Why do people think ADB is actually better than Abnett again?

Do Fists get their bolter bonus as part of their Adeptus Astartes special rule, or is that a different RoW?

Alrighty cool.
The kits I have are for a warder squad, templar squad, and the rest are tactical.

I guess there are a few terms I need to memorize for this to make sense.

What is a death star unit? Is that a nickname for something?

ADB doesn't run out of pages and rush his endings EVERY SINGLE TIME.

its their adeptus astartes rule, so they get that in addition to whatever.

Thick > Noodle. There is no variance here.

I'll take permanent squats over legs that never squat.

This guy.

>literally had to publish a separate novella for all the shit they had to cut out of First Heretic
>all his HH novels and shorts have literally all ended in a similar manner

Personnally speaking, I just love the way ADB writes. I believe he has the most fitting style for 40k. It goes to the point where I might not like the content, but the form is so damn good that it is still pretty enjoyable.

Abnett is too descriptive imo.

If it's big(ish), it's horrifically powerful, enormously expensive, and (potentially) has a glaring weak spot, that's a Death Star - basically you sink a lot of points into one unit (primarch + escorts are notorious), and in theory it'll be nigh unavailable and hugely dangerous, but if you kill the transport or drop a lot of templates then that very expensive unit could well end up doing very little.
The cost of a transport is included, but may be something of a catch 22

The similar manner being? Just curious here.

>nigh unavailable
Fucking spellcheck + drinking, I meant nigh unkillable

So I've decided to fluff out Quid Fornax some more. The regular civilians live in towns that wouldn't be too different from towns in Alaska, and wear heavy fur coats over the love child resulting from a druken three way between flak armor, what Scions wear, and what SA wear. In ages past they would race against each other on their snow mobiles, but the races became more dangerous and illegal modifications to their snow mobiles. The tech priests don't interfere with the local settlements too much, but seeing such tech heresies started to make the Cogboys tighten their control over the settlements. Eventually the races ceased to exist, and the local tech priests loosened their control over the locals.

There are cities but they are more akin to fortresses that house men and women that are a step below Skitarii, and worship the Machine God. They look down upon the normal locals and view them as hicks that are only worth murdering Orks, and rarely allow them into their city fortresses. The actual Skitarii and these guys deal with the Necrons who thaw out and other thinking machines that free themselves from their icy prisons. They normal locals share the resentment towards them. The actual Skitarii are indifferent towards their stalkers from the city fortresses.

The local Feral Orks are Orks who do Orky things. They've been on the planet since the Old Night, and don't seem to be leaving anytime soon. The normal locals deal with them, but the Not!Skitarii and the real Skitarri will deal with them if there's a WAAGGGH large enough to warrant their attention. Their bikes would often race the locals in their snow mobile races sometimes welcomed but mostly unwelcome. They are hunted down by the normal locals to gain favor from the tech priests who need Ork corpses to power their factories.

Two characters talking about a cliffhangers for other books
>The First Heretic: that gay marine talking with his demon about the start of the war
>Betrayer: Kharn and Lorgar talking about Angron's transformation
>Savage Weapons: Lion and Corswain talking about Guilliman declaring Imperium Secundus
>Howl of the Hearthworld: Two space wolves talking about them being sent to watch dorn
>Mark of Calth short whose name I don't recall: gay marine and Lorgar talking about the assault on Calth as well as using the unruly marines as fodder

So is Master of Mankind going to end with the Emperor and one of the Custodians talking about the coming Siege of Terra?

All signs point to yes.

Something like that

>MALCADOR, BRING ME TENDIES

Master of Mankind is either going to redeem the Emperor, or prove him to be the biggest douche in the universe for all time and make the Chaos Gods the true victims.

What did each of the legions do with their Librarians? Does the FW canon differ from the HH novels in any way in regards to Nikaea, or has that been avoided thus far?

I know the Space Wolves and Thousand Sons both ignored Nikaea, the Blood and Dark Angels both just folded their librarians back into the line companies, and that the Imperial Fists imprisoned and sequestered their Librarians.

well considering the 'chaos did nothing wrong' cuck ADB is writing it...

The most likely outcome will be that BL ignores what a massive fuckup they've portrayed the Emperor as, so the end result will try to make the Emperor look completely justified/tragic while really just looking like an incompetent moron with absolutely zero interpersonal skills.

I still think John Cena would make an excellent Guilliman. Noble jawline and all.

>Abnett is too descriptive imo.
Agreed, and he also seems to find a favorite phrase and cling to it. By the end of Legion, there were so many instances of people who "did a namaste" I just started imagining it as taking a huge shit on the floor, and everyone just accepted that as a standard greeting.

Have you heard the good news? Lorgar is here to save us all from the Emperors sins, also free Daemons for all!
Working on getting these WB Cata Termies done by the end of the week.

Night Lords didn't give a shit, but Sevatar hated the Chief Librarian and shipped him off to Terra.

Morty banned his, alongside Corax.

Angron let them die and stopped recruiting psykers.

Goody two shoes probably did the same as the Lion.

Also, Dorn didn't imprison them, he only did this after the war started and he told Garro he was keeping them for something

Or it could be the "I was just pretending to be an asshole" all according to keikaku Emperor? Honestly I don't know which would be worse.

nice

>I still think John Cena would make an excellent Guilliman. Noble jawline and all.
He would be Corvus Corax, for you cannot see him

With Abnett you get hundreds of pages of intricate detail and world-building. For example, Titanicus had a story arc on the side about a shop keeper who is implied to have been a titan crewmember, mind-wiped as part of his retirement. Didn’t add anything to the plot, just added to the setting. Which was a nice touch… but then suddenly I realize I’m 90% through the book, the final battle is only starting, and there are five or six character threads that are still open.

The last 10% doesn’t get the same level of detail. Not even close. The good guys win, this character goes home, that character vanishes into the desert, a huge disagreement between allies built up over several chapters gets defused in two pages, everythingsgreatandtheresnomorespaceTHEEND.

Know No Fear wasn’t too different.

He gets us really invested in the characters and then skimps on the denouement.

I kinda want a movie/tv show but I also know that they would fuck it up and do something retarded like make half the legions women

FW hasn't really gotten into it. Inferno (the next book) will be the right place for it.

Betrayer goes into the World Eaters' experience. They ignored Nikaea, but they already hated their Librarians because a) they couldn't receive the Butcher's Nails without dying and/or making a big mess, weirdboy-style (so they stopped recruiting new ones), and b) whenever a Librarian gets near a World Eater (including Angron), it triggers their Nails and hurts.

I dread it to, but, brothers we must not forget the AGONZINGLY ALONE speech! I shall post it for the unlearned.

>sacrificing detail and sculpt quality of resin for pleb plastic crablegs

ABSOLUTELY DOGSGUSTING

>inb4 we're all wrong and it has the based Emperor explaining all his actions and blowing Lorgar, Horus and the rest of the retards the fuck out

it's ADB, of course the Emperor will be an asshole

>Also, Dorn didn't imprison them, he only did this after the war started and he told Garro he was keeping them for something
Fear to Tread has the Blood Angels librarians relieved that Sanguinius didn't imprison them all like Dorn did to his librarians.

Why does ADB have such issues with the Emperor? That scene with him in the Abaddon book was fucking cringe.

>‘WE ARE CURIOUS,’ came a mighty, anguished thought which itself transcended time.
>‘WE HAVE FOLLOWED YOUR INTRUSION INTO OUR SANCTUARY, OUR ANTRUM AND ADYTUM.’
‘My lord.’ Jaq sank to his knees. ‘I beg to report to you before I am destroyed. I may have uncovered a major conspiracy—’
>‘THEN WE WILL STRIP YOUR SOUL BARE. RELAX, MORTAL MAN, OR YOU WILL SURELY DIE IN SUCH PAIN AS WE ALWAYS ENDURE.’
Jaq breathed deeply, slowly, stilling the panic that fluttered under his ribs like a trapped bird. He surrendered himself. A hurricane roared through his mind.
If the story that he had thought to relate were a tangled forest – and if each event in that story were a tree – then within moments all the leaves were stripped away from all of the trees, denuding them to bare wintry twigs, to a raw basic life without the foliage of memories.
He was drained of his story; that was sucked from him in a trice, all of those leaves whirling into the mind-maw of the Master. Jaq gagged. Jaq drooled.
He was an imbecile, less than an imbecile.
He was less than a new-born baby.
He neither knew where he was, nor who he was – nor what it even meant to be a someone.
The inquisitor sprawled. All that was known to his body was distress, the gurglings of the guts, breath and light. Light from afar.

ABRUPTLY, ALL MEMORY flooded back. On that instant, each leaf sprouted anew to recloak the forest of his life.
>‘WE HAVE PUT BACK WHAT WE TOOK AND TASTED, INQUISITOR’
Trembling, Jaq regained his kneeling posture and wiped his lips and chin. The previous moments were a hideous limbo, unknowable, immeasurable. He was Jaq Draco again.
>‘WE ARE MANY, INQUISITOR.’ The voice boomed in his mind almost gently – if gently was how an avalanche would sweep away a doomed village, if gently was how a scalpel might strip a life to the bare aching bones.

The only issue with this is that some of the Emperor's actions are flat-out indefensible. Pretty much everything about Angron for example.

>‘HOW ELSE COULD WE ADMINISTER OUR IMPERIUM—’
>‘AS WELL AS WINNOW THE WARP—’
>‘HOW ELSE?’
The Emperor’s mind-voice, if that truly was what it was, had dissociated into several voices, as if his great undying soul co-existed in fragments that barely hung together.
>‘SO DOES THE HYDRA THREATEN US?’
>‘IMPERILLING OUR GREAT AND AWFUL PLAN TO STEER HUMANITY?’
>‘DID WE OURSELVES DEVISE THE HYDRA?’
>‘PERHAPS IN A PART OF US, SINCE THIS HYDRA PROMISES A PATH?’
>‘SURELY A MALEVOLENT PATH; FOR HOW COULD HUMANITY EVER FREE ITSELF?’
>‘THEN WE MUST BE MALEVOLENT TOO. FOR WE HAVE EXPELLED OUR SENTIMENTALITY LONG AGO. HOW ELSE COULD WE HAVE ENDURED? HOW ELSE COULD WE HAVE IMPOSED OUR RULE?’
>‘YET BY VIRTUE OF THAT WE ARE PURE AND UNCONTAMINATED BY WEAKNESS. WE ARE GRIM SALVATION

Trips of Sadness.
Sleep tight, Empra, shiny and rotten.

Says who?

All about that incidence has been from the lobotimized retard's PoV, his brutish sons, or his lickspittle brother. We haven't given the Emperor a chance to defend himself.

What if Angron isn't remembering right (due to the nails), and they were already dead by the time the Emperor came there? He wanted anyone but himself to blame for their deaths, so he focused his anger on his father

>‘NOTHING THAT SAFEGUARDS HUMANITY CAN BE EVIL, NOT EVEN THE MOST STRENUOUS INHUMANITY. IF THE HUMAN RACE FAILS, IT HAS FAILED FOREVER.’
>'WHEN WE CONFRONTED THE CORRUPTED, HOMICIDAL HORUS WHO ONCE USED TO SHINE LIKE THE BRIGHTEST STAR, WHO USED TO BE OUR BELOVED FAVOURITE – WHEN THE FATE OF THE GALAXY HUNG BY A THREAD – WERE WE NOT COMPELLED TO EXPEL ALL COMPASSION? ALL LOVE? ALL JOY? THOSE WENT AWAY. HOW ELSE COULD WE HAVE ARMOURED OURSELVES? EXISTENCE IS TORMENT, A TORMENT THAT MUST NOURISH US. EVIDENTLY WE MUST STRIVE TO BE THE FIERCE REDEEMER OF MAN, YET WHAT WILL REDEEM US?’
‘Great lord of all,’ whimpered Jaq, ‘did you know of the hydra before now?’
>‘NO, AND WE SHALL SURELY ACT IN DUE TIME—’
>‘YET SURELY WE KNEW. HOW COULD WE NOT KNOW?’
>‘ONCE WE HAVE ANALYSED THE INFORMATION WITHIN THIS SUB-MIND OF OURS.’
>‘HEAR THIS, JAQ DRACO: ONLY TINY PORTIONS OF US CAN HEED YOU, OTHERWISE WE NEGLECT OUR IMPERIUM, OF WHICH OUR SCRUTINY MUST NOT FALTER FOR AN INSTANT. FOR TIME DOES NOT HALT EVERYWHERE WITHIN THE REALM OF MAN. INDEED TIME ONLY HALTS FOR YOU.’

>Know No Fear wasn’t too different.

oh yes
>old fluff, UM get fucked but through the strategic abilities of Guillman and their own officers they manage to turn it around and after many brutal battles on land and space they secure victory

>Abbnet fluff, this guy made an antiviris just stick this chick in the USB port and you win, gg oh and word bearers managed to do all they came here to do so it doesn't matter anyway

>‘WE ARE AN EVER-WATCHFUL LORD, ARE WE NOT? DID YOU HOPE TO GAIN OUR UNDIVIDED ATTENTION?’
>‘HOW ELSE SHOULD WE SOUL-BIND PSYKERS AND OVERVIEW THE WARP AND BEAM THE ASTRONOMICAN BEACON AND SURVIVE AND RECEIVE INFORMATION AND GRANT AUDIENCES ALL AT ONCE, UNLESS WE ARE MANY?’
>‘AND YET STILL WE MISS SO MUCH, SO VERY MUCH? SUCH AS THAT WHICH GUIDED YOU HERE.’
>‘OUR SPIRIT GUIDED YOU.’
>‘NO: ANOTHER SPIRIT, A REFLECTION OF OUR GOODNESS WHICH WE THRUST FROM US.’
>‘WE ARE THE ONLY SOURCE OF GOODNESS, SEVERE AND DRASTIC. THERE IS NO OTHER SOURCE OF HOPE THAN US.
>'WE ARE AGONISINGLY ALONE

It did matter though, it's a victory for morale as well as crippling the WB in ratio (one half of the UM for one half of the WB)