Stone-to-flesh has to be able to produce complex organic structures...

Stone-to-flesh has to be able to produce complex organic structures, because when used on a petrified person they are restored rather than just turned into a blob of meat. So would someone be able to use it to take a gem carved into an eyeball and turn it into a functioning eye. If so would it grant any special abilities? have a unique color? Or just replace the normal eye that was lost?

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Nope, only if it was originally a person. Otherwise you just have meat

You'd have to carve and shape the inside of the stone, too.
Or maybe have an even better version of the Stone to Flesh spell than just the basic one for reverting Flesh to Stone victims.

i had a wizard cast stone to flesh on a beholder and it succeeded. he then removed the eyes and crafted them into rods to use at a future time. I allowed it since he rolled a nat twenty on spellcraft check on top of having the appropriate feats.
Once we hit epic levels, the used the group's resources to start a beholder farm in a trap filled obdurium room with stone to flesh spells layed off everywhere with permanency affects. it was a matter of time before they all went off, then he cast whatever spells he needed to go in and harvest. He started a rod/wand factory and made millions selling to armies across the planes of existance.

>tormenting powerful evil beings to turn their eyes into zap guns for customers across the multiverse
That's some Rick and Morty type shenanigans

Maybe the type of stone you change to leaves a mark on you, if you're lucky enough to get changed back. Maybe even it heals you if changes are made to your form, like a clear eye carved onto a glass staue of you that gets changed back.

So if you were transformed into some gem hunk, cleaned up a little, then changed back, compensation is you're left with a healed but obviously different piece. Gem colored scars, changes of eye, transparency allowed you to see inside, maybe one upside with a downside or just something perk level.

I don't think stone to flesh actually generates complex structures, it just reverts the effects of petrification.

But you can use it on just plain rocks and they get turned into flesh so it doesn't just reverse petrifaction. Hmm. Maybe it should reverse fossilization too.

Can it turn a toaster into a raccoon?

Yeah, it'll turn rocks into blobs of meat, not complete living things.
But come to think of it, fossilization should be easily reversed by Stone to Flesh, as the fine internal structure will have been preserved inside. Fantasy Jurassic Park, anyone?

Hey we are trying hard to be serious here

Fossils are typically just a mold of external structure and texture, not something with detailed depth of the underlying tissue

Heh heh, you said "hard."

Hey, could a stone to flesh spell make a rock hard boner? Heh heh hm heh!

Think of it like this:
When you get petrified through magic, the statue of you is formed of the specific consistencies and layers of stone needed to produce you if the spell is reversed.

Random rocks just turn into random jumbles of meat when you use stone to flesh on them because they're random. So you could theoretically carve out an eye if you figured out the exact correct consistency of stone to perfectly replicate an eye and then find that exact mix of stone. Odds are that you'll just get a jumble of meat in the shape of an eye though.

Ok, so what if the caster had to have intricate knowledge of said consistencies and layers - like, say, from exhaustive study of, shall we say, "previously-used" eyes? And then, when casting the spell, he's actually using his knowledge of the construction of the eye to rearrange the stone before fleshing it?

If he was some kind of stone-shaper mage, then yeah. Galatea, here we come.

There was a third party 3.5|PF splat book (isn't there always?) about being a magic sculptor who makes statues and brings them to life, but sadly it was mostly devoted to perviness and full of really awful mechanics.

You're trying to add ability to the spell it doesn't and shouldn't have. "Stone to Flesh" is not a "shape stone" spell. It doesn't allow you to mold stone before turning it into flesh. Now some kind of "Shape/manipulate stone" spell cast before "stone to flesh" to turn the stone into the exact properties a "flesh to stoned" eye would have might actually produce an eye.

Well, seeing as the eye structure isn't a naturally occurring stone, he'd have to have spells that allowed him to form cellular scale structures in an existing piece of stone and also a spell to alter the mineral composition of those structures to the correct composition.

Both of which would require either epic spell casting or epic crafting feats.

Easier to just go around petrifying unwilling organ donors.

>Both of which would require either epic spell casting or epic crafting feats.
Considering the things even low level spells can do, where the fuck do you get the idea that manipulating stone has to be epic level?

Too good.

Why assume there isn't even more magical under-lying issues that aren't understood beyond "Well the spell says it turns rocks into hunks of meat, and it makes people who are rocks into people again, can it make rocks into little peoples?"

What if those statue people have souls, and that's why it works like that?

Or if you could bind spirits to the inanimate objects, and when you used the spell it alters the outcome, to try and manifest the object as a living thing that the spirit residing within can utilize?

And maybe normal rocks just can't do that shit.

Hell man, magic.

According to the SD (d20srd.org/srd/spells/stoneToFlesh.htm) you can turn a stone golem into a flesh golem, and a normal statue into a corpse. It would be dead flesh, so unless there is some sort of additional positive energy component to infuse the eye with vital energy it would be like taking an old corpse's eye for transplant.

>fossilization should be easily reversed by Stone to Flesh, as the fine internal structure will have been preserved inside.
That's the opposite of what fossils are.

How would the corpse interact with spells like resurrection and reincarnation?

>Stone-to-flesh has to be able to produce complex organic structures, because when used on a petrified person they are restored rather than just turned into a blob of meat
A petrified individual isn't one contiguous slab of granite, they have all those complex structures already in them, merely formed of stone.
If you cast stone to flesh on a statue you just get a meaty marionette.

I'd be willing to let a player make a knowledge:anatomy, profession:stone work, and a spellcraft check to make an eye out of stone and then stone to flesh it. Knowledge and profession on the craft roll, and knowledge and spellcraft on the stone to flesh.

Not sure what I'd set the dc at though.

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It won't give you living flesh, but it will produce the complex structure.

Not sure, I've found arguments that it would be a valid target for Create Undead, but not any restore life type spells because there's nothing to restore.
Also I found this amusing anecdote in my search.
>During a game, a medusa turned an NPC into stone.
>Did the players act out of concern for the NPC?
>Did they stare in awe at the medusa's power?
>No, not my players.
>My players wanted to know what kind of stone the NPC got changed into and were hoping for something like Italian Marble so they could sell the statue. Sigh.

>get petrified
>For some reason, people don't think you're petrified, instead think you are a statue
>You are moved to some city square as a statue of a fighting-man
>Centuries later, someone unpetrifies you accidentally
>what do?

You wouldn't really be aware of the passage of time, so you'd end up pretty confused, I think. Maybe look for your surviving relatives next?

sounds like a pretty good plot hook/PC back story to me. I'd allow it. I might even include an NPC like that now.

Masturbate at the table because this is my magical realm

Sure.

i'd say allow it, but make it super expensive to get a new eye made out of a gem, and have it be only the most valuable gems that grant effects, Black Sapphires, Diamonds, Jacinth, and Rubies.

I want to say Animate Object+Stone to Flesh

But then it might still only be alive for the 1 minute.

test it, then if it does, cast permanency. but then that raises the question of if that would grant immortality, if used on a complete object, or would turn the Gem Eye into something like an anti-eye-of-vecna

>Fantasy Cryogenics lab run by medusae
>Filled with a bunch of petrified kings and heroes suffering from fatal diseases with rare or no known cures

heroes being voluntarily petrified to be able to combat their arch nemesis when it returns.

I once read a pornography story where a medusa would glamor herself into looking like a human woman, seduce men, and then petrify them mid-coitus. Then have fun with the statues left behind.

Loving it

I like to imagine thatflesh to stone converts each type of organic material into a different type of stone.

So if you wanted to fabricate an object that would work when stone-to-fleshed, you'd need a type of rock inlaid with other types of rock.

Like, a human being might be primarily clay flesh with iron-rich arteries/veins, soapstone fat deposits and pumice bones.

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Well that... Is apparently up my alley

He'd need to do the "rearranging" BEFORE casting Flesh to Stone. And having studied eyes wouldn't be enough, he'd have to study petrified eyes specifically to reverse-engineer them. And even then it might fail because studying the macrostructure might not be enough, he might need to get the microscopic structure right as well.

Read "The Shape-Changers Wife", the lot of you. It deal with exactly these questions.