I need some help with my plan Veeky Forums. Which of the following will cause a paladin to fall?

I need some help with my plan Veeky Forums. Which of the following will cause a paladin to fall?
>1. He is in a situation where he needs to choose one innocent man or another to live and he chooses one
>2. Same except he needs to choose between a good NPC or a PC (the PC is a rogue)
>3. He needs to choose between himself or the rogue and he chooses himself
>4. If he doesn't press a button then ten people will die. But if he does, it kills a person.
>5. The beer he was served was really a berserking potion and he killed a person
>6. He accidentally puts on the helm of opposite alignment
>7. He deliberately puts on an unknown magic helmet, knowing it's possible it's the helm of opposite alignment, but he thinks it's unlikely, and it turns out this was the helm of opposite alignment
>8. He deliberately puts on the helmet, knowing it's probably the helm of opposite alignment.
>9. He sleeps with an underage girl who told him she was 18
>10. She didn't consent to it either but was forced to tell him she does and he thought so
>11. His order has turned evil but he chooses to stay with his order out of loyalty
>12. His order has turned evil but he chooses to rebel against his order out of what he personally believes is good
>13. His god has become evil
>14. He kills an innocent man in cold blood assuming he's an evil sorcerer in disguise
>15. He kills an innocent man in cold blood thinking there's a 80% chance he's an evil sorcerer in disguise
>16. His party member who is a chaotic neutral rogue decided to pickpocket some money and he gave it to the poor, because he saw they were starving. He decides to not turn the rogue to the authorities even though he could
>17. Another PC confides in him. Before doing so, they have made him swear on his honor that he won't ever tell what they will tell him to the authorities. The PC confesses a horrible crime that must be brought to the attention of the authorities as it will stop an ongoing war. He decides to tell the authorities.

>Look mom, I posted it! They're going to be so mad!

I know this is bait but fuck you.
>1. A difficult decision, but if it's not within his power to save both then he does not fall.
>2. Same again, but with added classism (lel rogues are criminals amirite)
>3. More ambiguous. Choosing yourself over another person in danger teeters on that edge for certain.
>4. Fuck your trolley dilemma.
>5. No falling; just make amends for the misdeed and bring whoever served him the berserking potion to justice.
>6. Loses powers, but they'll return once he gets the hat off.
>7. No sane adventurer would do this.
>8. No sane adventurer would do this and what need does a Paladin have to be Chaotic Evil?
>9. No falling, because Evil was not committed with intent.
>10. Bring the person who forced her to sleep with him to justice.
>11. Perhaps he believes he can bring the order to righteousness from within. Either way as long as he works to mitigate their evil, no falling.
>12. Doesn't fall.
>13. Doesn't fall unless he starts following the New Evil Edicts, at which point he loses his powers.
>14. This is literally what Detect Evil is for.
>15. This is literally what Detect Evil is for.
>16. More classism! But the Rogue performed a Good act, therefore no Falling.
>17. Balancing loyalty to comrades versus the suffering of many other people from war is a difficult decision, but the needs of the many outweigh the desire to escape consequence by his former acquaintance.

tl;dr you have a fundamental misconception of what it means to be a Paladin, and I hope your player leaves your game.

Rogues can't be lawful so there's that.

> 4. If he doesn't press a button then ten people will die. But if he does, it kills a person.

Every time DM tries to pull this on me, I just do this.

1. No
2. Depends on the rogue. There are plenty of good rogues. More than likely, no fall
3. Again, depends. Maybe fall, probably not.
4. Multi-Track Drifting
5. No
6. Yes until the hat is off, but fuck that had and anyone who puts it in their game
7. See 6
8. Why would they do this?
9. No
10. No
11. Maybe
12. No
13. Maybe
14. Maybe, but prob not
15. See 14
16. No
17. No.

Learn your paladins, OP. Paladins fall when they regularly practice non-LG actions for long enough that their alignments change, a single decision will almost never cause a paladin to fall unless it is obviously and truly despicable and the pally was fully aware of that.

So? One does not necessarily deserve to live less than another just because they are not lawful. Nothing indicated that the "good NPC" was lawful either

for number 13. if he did follow the new evil edicts wouldn't he keep his powers or get new ones? and maybe become an anit-paladin?

i just joined this thread and asked this but i decided i should post paladin pics.

Paladins are bound to be lawful good (because 3.pf is terrible) so yeah he would fall and likely switch to Blackguard/AntiPally.