CYOA General

Alright, and now for the moment nobody was waiting for, I finished V2 of "Student President CYOA," which is hopefully the last one.

- Added more of...basically everything, but especially drawbacks. Also they're now worth 1 point instead of 2.

- Attempted to fix the layout, scrapped that new layout, then made another new layout. It's now marginally better than before, in the sense that death by stabbing is better than death by drowning.

-No really I apologize in advance. I'd keep working on it but honestly I sorta want to be done with it and it'd be a shame to not post it.

Pg 1/2

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What happened to the permanent immortal choice option?

Possible build comment: It may be worth losing upgrades elsewhere to gain a companion from the Culture books, since the nerf only applies to power, and not knowledge.

Bearly Human and Thermosaturation.
I will be a fire breathing Bear

Sorry to repost stuff from last thread, but I just got to ask: how were we supposed to know any of the secrets for this one? This is completely unfair. There's nothing in the hints to clue you to any of those secrets. Am I missing something guys? Is this my problem or are the secrets just far too hard?

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You're not. It's meant to feed the part of the human brain that enjoys gambling. I know, that's completely baffling and retarded, but that's brains for you.

Like so many other CYOAs, it ended up centralizing the CYOA too much and instituting a point tax. There's little challenge in a CYOA like that if you're permanently immortal, resulting in being spoiled for choice and never actually having to think about how things are going to work out. It turns the CYOA from an actual thought experiment into an exercise in making up ridiculous ploys that succeed only through the plot device of perfect immortality, and draws focus away from the actual themes.
If you want to pretend you're immortal, go ahead. You can't cheat in a CYOA unless you're playing a quest, you can only ignore the guidelines. It's a lot more rewarding in the end to follow the rules, and people are justified in laughing at those who have to make up their own rules in a power fantasy because they can't feel good otherwise, but it's your choice.

Normally I'd be inclined to agree with you, but the weird fact is that I was there when it was first posted and somehow people have actually guessed most of them. I honestly don't know how. Maybe it's like full of secret anime references or something I haven't caught on. IIRC, the only one nobody discovered was Meshara Brown's. All the others were practically agreed on by the time Harem user released the secrets.

That's /cyoag/ autists for you. It takes a combination of the ability to pick on extremely slight hints in the wording, knowledge of anime tropes and knowledge of how cyoa writers love the most to fuck you.

I'd prefer it kept to the notion of the original. That is, that even though it dealt with classic Christian themes, it was only loosely, and being a demon wasn't auto-lose, and nobody sided with God because he hates everyone equally, especially angels.

I remember that. Though if I remember correctly the cards were the only part that nobody had a decent clue on.

I was one of the guys who guessed the cards. It was kind of a "partially" thing. Some guys did guess the correct MEANING of the cards, symbolically speaking, but few of them guessed what the cards would actually do. Except for the Ace of Wands, which everybody thought would give you a younger Madame Lyubitchka (and is pretty much what you get).

I was actually talking about the extended immortality past present day, not the "absolutely cannot die". It's still referenced in the intro "based on your immortal perk selection"

I don't mind that, I just mean cut down on the pretentious purple prose and focus a bit more on the actual mechanics a bit more.

I know that's personal preference and all, but fuck reading the original hurt my brain.

The only thing I would say about it is that it's not very clear that the Tarot cards aren't choices in addition to the girls. I thought you were supposed to pick one girl and one card, which made it confusing.

That's silly. Why wouldn't you then just make people immortal by default? What's the point? To alter history then die? Kindof a wet blanket at that point.

Tell you what, why not just remark in a very small aside that it's completely possible to enact historical changes and advance the world to the point where agelessness-granting technology exists? Wouldn't that be the natural progression of things anyway? It's not like it's NOT going to happen -- it will eventually. What, are you going to then just tell the one doing the CYOA that they specifically can't partake in it?

You need a guarantee that you can speak the language of the locals.
I'll wait for you to add a time period after plumbing was invented before I make my build

was looking for the others from this in the last thread

Roberta's screams "up to something shady", and the part about the missing finger heavily implies involvement in some kind of cult or extreme organization that uses this as a loyalty test (aka Yakuza, Assassins, etc.).
Beatrice's secret is written all over her profile, I don't know what kind of moron you need to be to have no idea about it.
Dae Eun-Yeong is legit difficult, but people did guess it right back then so I'm assuming I'm missing something.
Samantha's secret is... really weird. I guess it's supposed to refer to some famous hentai VN or something, but in any case, even if you don't know what it is exactly it's kind of easy to guess the gist of it (i.e. something about her body is inclined to make things messy, and she overcompensates by being obsessed with cleanliness).
Many people caught to the fact that Tabitha is a monster-shifter-thing because of the focus on how she's never angry but is clearly bottling shit up. Bunch of people even outright said "giant monster", but I don't know how they reached that conclusion. My guess would've been a Werewolf: The Apocalypse garou due to the enviromentalism shtick.
Heather's easy.
Meshara's really hard.
If you know /cyoag/ and trolling creators, it's really, REALLY easy to guess that Cheryl would be a futa. Just saying.

Dae Eun Yeong may be a reference to Stein's;Gate, now that I'm rereading it.

You can literally pick any time period, and there's already a note explaining that you get free knowledge of language and culture.

This thread generally requires literacy from its posters; you might be better off just sticking to the porn.

He got rid of the immortality perks, but he added a Shape Shifting power. You should easily be able to shift into younger bodies whenever you feel like it, especially since you'll have thousands of years to perfect your skills.

Even without that, it's not like you drop dead the moment you lose your agelessness. You age like 100 times slower than a normal human, you're gonna be around for a long time.

Nice to see an update to this with more drawbacks and friends you can choose. As Rumors is 1pt now instead of 2 I added Temper to my build. Also the new year events are a nice addition. Thanks for posting this.

I did like the lined paper background of the original though the formatting on this one is nicer overall. Shame you didn't keep that background.

Shapeshifting age away is essentially wholesale banned from every CYOA in existence. It's the cheapest loophole.

And aging that slowly just means that I'm going to have to be an old fucking geezer for 100 times as long.

>You age like 100 times slower than a normal human

Not really seeing that anywhere, but I'm tired and blind.

Wouldn't Regeneration 3 serve to repair your telomeres, granting you a similar kind of ageless immortality?

How the fuck does Shapeshifting even fucking work if you can't shift age? Age is probably the simplest and easiest thing to change about your body, assuming you have magical morphing powers.

apparent age doesn't equal real age.

Now that you say it, I'm sure in that CYOA I'd take shapeshifting so I'd at least look like I'm young when I'm old, but I would still drop dead one day for no real reason.

Haven't seen this posted in a while.

>Shapeshifting age away is essentially wholesale banned from every CYOA in existence. It's the cheapest loophole.
>>people just go on the internet and tell lies

Don't remember which one, but there was actually a cyoa out there where the author said doing so was perfectly fine. There was another that specifically said it was perfectly okay as long as you bought a physical perk that was extremely cheap, like one or two points.

>How the fuck does Shapeshifting even fucking work if you can't shift age?

That's a great question, since the effects of aging are just the result of damage at the end of your chromosomes, which means most of your DNA. One would assume if you're changing shapes without limit after a time that you're changing chromosomes as well, otherwise it doesn't really explain how you're taking new and vastly different forms to begin with.

Remove Calibrun

It's a permanent shifting ability that grows in strength and versatility over time, and you get millennia to practice it.

The author hasn't given his reasoning for removing the immortality perks yet, so until he shows up and says that he decided he hates immortality and wants everyone to die after they reach the current year, I'm assuming that Shapeshifting was intended to be a more elegant solution, as well as a way to get people to finally pick one of the supernatural perks that were being neglected in the last version.

Real age is physical age, physical age is an aspect of your body, and shapeshifting alters your body.

"Age" isn't some RPG stat that acts like a Doom counter and kills you when it reaches a certain number. It's the deterioration of your body's cells over time.

If shapeshifting isn't giving me the power to alter my cells, WHAT THE FUCK IS IT DOING?

The author of that is kill or in hiding, So there's no other pages.

>knowledge of how cyoa writers love the most to fuck you.
In the missionary position as you gaze into each other's eyes?

>In the missionary position as you gaze into each other's eyes?

No.

Tied up or doggy style with lots of face slapping, hair pulling, spitting, berating and name calling, ultimately ending in tossing a dirty salad and a golden shower, with an expectation of a "thank you" before they walk out and leave you to practicing your escape artist routine before the next one shows up to hose you off and take their turn.

I love this one, though does anyone else find it ironic that after several revisions the porno drive has become a physical object, but the not-so-mystery boxes are nerfed to the point of being practically useless?

yeah, if there's some metaphysical component to aging in this cyoa, wouldn't you just die after a few decades in the past? What's so special about the agelessness granted by the cyoa compared to permanently shapeshifting your body into younger forms?

Like Mystique. Doesn't she age?

The boxes are just supposed to be a way to bring mementos with you into your rebooted life. They're not meant to be super useful, just a way to preserve things, or write notes to yourself so you don't forget the things you want to do differently.

Who hurt you, user?

Basically all you need in that cyoa is the pocket sized world. You are a god inside, functionally immortal, you can create anything, even earth if you wanted. Why would you ever leave?

who cares?

Because apparent age=/=actual age, and actual age is what kills you?

I don't see what's so counterintuitive about this, because, goddamn, people are trying to bring REALISM into a CYAO of all things.

If she does, it's because she's not changing herself on a genetic level, she's just changing her skin, flesh, and bone structure.

If shapeshifting lets you spoof DNA evidence, or become another animal altogether, then it's likely that, unless it's said otherwise, your chromosomes are changing to match what you're displaying on the outside. If it's not mentioned, then you're capable of, with practice, shapeshifting age away, if it is specifically barred even though you can turn into other creatures and spoof DNA evidence, then it's magic.

I was always operating under the assumption that she just aged to adulthood because she saw everyone else growing up and figured "why not?" Remember, she's a lot older than she looks, she's said herself she wasn't even born in the last century and thus is over 100 years old.

>she wasn't even born

I worded that wrong out of habit because I'm retarded, ignore the "even"

Mystique? No, or maybe not, she's over 100 though her exact age is unknown. Though a lot of mutants don't really seem to age either, like Destiny, one of Mystique's lovers is also over 100 and her power is precognition, not a bit to due with age.

I do. Why do you dislike authors?

this get an update? feel like it could use a companion and a location page

Yeah, pocket-sized world is great, if you don't mind being a hermit. Some people think being god is kinda boring, though, thus, the other powers.

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Calibrun supports elf rape, maybe. She has my sword.

>Because apparent age=/=actual age

This is correct.

>and actual age is what kills you

This is not. The reason we say people "die of old age" is because they've built up enough age-related issues that their body can no longer function. These age-related issues are brought on by aging, which as already stated, is nothing more than damage done to the telomeres at the end of your chromosomes, meaning new cells made from that particular cell reproduction are damaged in turn. Instead of a fully functioning cell, it's "chipped" or "cracked" so it only works at 95% instead of 100% at first. Then that cell splits, and the telomeres are damaged again, so the next two are 90%, so on and so fourth until damaged cells outnumber healthy cells and the next thing you know your organs aren't strong enough to get you through standard daily functions.

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>Thinking what I described is usually a bad thing.

I could show you on all the dolls where Slut Life touched me if you really want.

The boxes used to be completely unnoticeable to others unless they caught you stuffing something into it, now anyone that's less than neutral can pierce through the glamour hiding it, so basically anyone that thinks you''re hiding something can discover it. They were super useful in the old versions, now not so much.

Not if she doesn't want to.

It's also the only way to be truly immortal, since if you remain in the real world Heaven's going to collect your soul sooner or later.

>being a hermit
You can recreate earth if you want. Fact that it's not the REAL earth doesn't really matter, just live there instead. Use your powers to seal away your powers if you need to.

Also, does ANYONE in marvel age?

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Well, again, this is all in the vein of shapeshifters. If they can change their DNA, which they should be able to if they're taking inhuman forms, then whatever form they've taken is their "apparent age" and how long they've actually existed is their "actual age." Thus as long as they actually shift their forms, their "actual age" will never kill them as they can repair or replace the damage done to their cells themselves, especially if they've got some sort of regeneration on top of that. If they remained in any given form, even one based on how they originally looked, it would be their apparent age that kills them. Nobody really knows how a 1,000,000 year old person should look aside from "dead" after all.

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>Also, does ANYONE in marvel age?

Right up until adulthood generally, then they get a nice healthy dose of Marketing Potential with a side order of Plot Armor to go.

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Arrival: Pre-Agriculture (776 BC, Olympia)
Appearance: Body From Scratch
Position Within Society: Mysterious Stranger
Mental Upgrades: N/A
Body Upgrades: Strength & Speed (Level 1), Regeneration (Level 3), Reflexes & Reaction (Level 2), Iron Gut, Beauty, Pain Control, Non-Reactor, Diet (Level 2), Sanitary Convenience (Level 2), Breath (Level 2), Impervious (Level 3), Temperature Tolerance (Level 3), Pressure Tolerance (Level 2), Super Senses (Level 1), Endurance & Stamina (Level 2)
Supernatural Girt: Master of Motion
Company: N/A
Items: N/A
Drawback: The Dustbin of History

For those with a single point left perhaps an option to a get a superior sword, shield, or piece of armor would be a cool choice to have. Maybe for more points you could get a gun with unlimited ammunitions? An unlimited supply of something small to throw? A lot of things you could do. Maybe add an option that instead of the Pocket Dimension you can get a more well off and hidden base in your local reality rather than one that isn't. Drawbacks still run on percentages instead of straight points incase you forgot to change it.

Fully upgraded Regeneration is functionally ageless immortality even if not intended that way. In the same way that a high regenerative factor makes a lot of bodily functions completely or almost completely self-sustaining. Take enough body upgrades and you'd live longer than normal anyhow. I only went so far back in time to watch the world change and so that it's easier to kill the browns. Also to maybe fuck up the first olympic games. That one is for me.

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One point option should be something trivial like "cool sword" or whatnot

I don't like this game anymore. I want to leave.

there might be some kind of metaphysical aspect that we can't do anything about, especially since being able to shapeshift into inhuman forms raises the question of how we can shift our brain/nervous system into something else and still retain our thoughts/memories/etc.

Still, until the author dictates otherwise I'm assuming that Shapeshifting for immortality is valid.

I do. Pls bully.

Then disregard the last two suggestions. Those first three still seem tame enough. Two of the three single point things you can get are all supernatural in someway. There are plenty of reasonable ideas that could be implemented. I was just making a think. A tired think.

> Make you a girl

*Sigh*

>Remains a beacon of hope to her fae subjects
She's worse than her father in every aspect beside maguc. First she will integrate mortal world and London, next she will ban racism against fae. Where the hell is Magna Carta to limit power of this Insolent child?

But... bullying is the exact opposite of what I want to do!

>he didn't actually read the cyoa

You can only rearrange your cells.

It makes you into a girl though and then the drawback switches you back

What's really shocking is that Harem user actually released a CYOA which didn't burn everything down.

Good, now with more choices it's harder to pick everything

They will bend the knee or I'll destroy them by writing to their parents, extra work and detention

>Perks
Athletic, Crafty, Intelligent, Perceptive, The Stare, Willpower

>Friends
Sanae, Morio, Hitoshi, Fuyuko, Shiro, Natsume

>Drawbacks
Rumors, Temper

>Events
Student Revolt

Little pink letter

The Culture festival

Everything runs smooth in school because president cares, even though those brats don't appreciate

At first year they revolt because of rumors that president is not good enough. Well with several kicks and punches of the most vocal opposers while running campaign of how new president will help everyone those commies should tone down their anarchistic feelings, if not, keeping Shiro close since he strong and knows stuff, while Morio and Sanae would crack down on protests

Second year, well here Morio, Natsume, Fuyuko and Shiro have to protect their beloved president from getting lewd pictures of her all over school, or even worse, internet. With wits and friends "underground" it wont be hard to find who does this

Ah, the culture festival, give them directions, control fairness of competition with iron fist and everything will be nice and sound

>*Sigh*
>doesn't want to be a girl
Found the redditor.

Ah yes and Shiro is mostly with me to stop me from beating stupid people

>Harem user actually released a CYOA which didn't burn everything down
You mean the second version of Harem CYOA?

DARKITY DARKITY DARK

DAAAAARK SECRET

>Removed Immortality Upgrades, improved base immortality somewhat
As some have already stated, removing the "ageless forever" is a heavy nerf, unless you clarify that it's attainable via some other given option or options, such as Shapeshifting (by way of shifting your DNA and such), Regeneration (regenerate those telomeres to remain young), and/or Non-Reactor (aging-induced degradation, while a natural bodily function, is essentially unhealthy).

Until you explicitly clarify matters, I'm going to go ahead and assume one (or more, but especially the last one) of those is enough to counter aging indefinitely.

>Dark Messiah of Might & Magic

I'm pretty sure Xana was actually working for my dad and not the Necromancer. Either way I'll become the Demon Lord's child and literally kick the necromancer to death. It's too bad I can't stay in that world but at least I get ridiculous demonic powers after dad is freed.

I have a idea for a new build.