How is it possible that in settings where sex demons like succubi exist in large numbers human societies aren't in...

Conditioning, similar to Inception. They're trained to resist it.

I imagine it's a lot harder to summon an Outsider than it is to buy drugs.
You also need to have the ability to move the large amounts of magic around, knowledge of the exact and complex rituals required and the rare, expensive reagents to actually complete the summoning.

It's cheaper and easier to buy drugs and prostitutes is what I'm saying.

Most people drink themselves to death after years of exposure and desentisation, not after thinking "gee I can survive sleeping with a sex demon for 2 minutes, maybe 3 if I'm really lucky.".

Sometimes people have this thing called self control OP

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Succubus wouldn't kill a human so fast. She would use him to stay here as long as she can.

It's a heck of a lot more work to summon a demon than to pay a Elf to have sex with you.
Plus there's the whole, dying after-coitus which would turn off most people from actively seeking Succubi out.

Once she's here and killed her summoner she's free to do as she pleases unbound. So why wouldn't she want to?

The wild horse is never useful; even harmful, unless broken and saddled.

>It's "Spermotoxicosis victim with -3 Willpower save creates a smut thread" episode again
Okay, you're a faggot.
>It would be insanely easy for them to corrupt high ranking humans
Not all humans, even low-ranking, are following the first whim of their dicks. Some have, y'know, brain. Or at least some nerves in ass that might hint something is wrong with that lady.

They obviously grant +1 to chastity and teach the PCs everlasting fidelity to their partner.

>Some have, y'know, brain

Looking at what happens all over the world daily, only a tiny minority.

Sex is a nice leisure, yo. What is evil about sex if no one is getting harmed?
Oh, yes. Why big political figures have to constantly pretend to be either retarded or lawful stupid?

>Looking at what happens all over the world daily, only a tiny minority.

Enlighten me as to "what happens all over the world daily" to near enough of the over seven fucking billion people on earth that "only a tiny minority" aren't affected by it.

I'll fucking wait.

What? I could say
>demons
>sex
if I wanted to argue that they should be spiritual forces with no body and certainly no genitalia, but that ship's sailed for D&D. If a class of demons has been rewritten from tranny-rapist semen-bumblebees into hot seductresses, might as well rewrite a class of angels into headache-free homemakers.

And thus, any high ranking human with the faintest shred of a clue knows that a) they can do it with sex angels or sex demons, b) the former are preferable by miles for a wide variety of reasons.

Because if demons are so common and objectively real, than people are also on watch for that shit.

>Implying I wouldnt

>LAWFUL HOT DICKINGS.

>Sex is a nice leisure, yo. What is evil about sex if no one is getting harmed?

You're an obvious virgin, so I'm going to explain it to you gently. Guilt-free casual sex is a complete myth unless you're a sociopath. Life is not a porn video. The "harm" can be physicial, such as STDs, unwanted pregnancies, hemorrhoids, and yes, actual violence due to jealousy, control issues, or a destructive fetish. This leads to the secondary harm: Psychological. This is the harm you don't see as often. This is why, after awhile, you're at the single's bar and the only women you're taking home are "the crazy ones." Hot? Yes. But also scary fucking crazy.

Drain the very life from you. And then take you to hell.

Easy, OP: not everyone is a horny, virginal weeaboo grognard who thinks with his penis exclusively, unlike you.

The proper question is: if demons in general exist in large numbers, capable of corrupting humans, be it through offers of sex, wealth or power, how does the society hold together?

The easy answer is that they're held in check by some form of celestial bureaucracy, or, like in DnD settings, fucking with humans is an afterthought for them compared to plotting against and bickering with each other.

No, it totally is.
But seriously; by even making this thread and choosing that image you prove you think almost entirely with your dick. You probably never even considered that people might think differently.

>[desire to know more intensifies]

>not everyone is a horny, virginal weeaboo grognard who thinks with his penis exclusively

I guess that's why sex is still one of the most popular internet searches, sex tourism and prostitution flourish like crazy and from time to time we get sex scandals in the highest political elites.

When you CAN prove that everyone thinks like that, get back to us. We'll wait.
Remember, it has to be everyone mind you, at the highest echelons of government.

I think its like one of those tests of Faith, like if your faith is strong enough then your dick wont be burnt to ash when you stick it in.

Also im paraphrasing here but I think I remember reading that a big part of why Satan rebelled in the first place was because God told him and a bunch of other angels to stop impregnating human women, cause Nephilim are some strange fuckers.

But angels can be just as evil as demons. Looking at examples from Bible itself, God and angles are often worse then demons.

One day you'll loose it and then laugh to yourself when you realize you actually made threads like this.

stay salty Wife of Lot

>or, like in DnD settings, fucking with humans is an afterthought for them compared to plotting against and bickering with each other.

^This. My players are always wise to them. That doesn't mean they aren't useful though. I see succubi as key infiltrators. They're "assigned" to an area to lure key individuals. In dungeon settings, they're almost always in disguise.

It's not.

There is no given reason beyond pride what Satan rebels in the Bible and the event itself is never even recounted.
You are correct about the Grigori and the Nephallim, but this is unrelated to Satan and actually is frequently thought of as a way in the Bible and other religions that share mentions of this to sort of explain away monsters and such they roam the physical world, as the progeny of the Grigori.

Kinda like the Titans or Greek gods and their million monsterous kids.

If succubi are everywhere, wouldn't that mean that ranking politicians would be screened to ensure that they are resolute before they get the magical nuke keys?
Or maybe civilisations in this bizarre universe put their leaders under a geas of celibacy.

That is of course assuming that this even becomes an issue, which I'm doubtful of. Oh, it'd happen occasionally, but people and civilisation would adapt to combat the threat. It would become political suicide to take a mistress because the opposition would all cry "succubus!" until you were forced to resign or be transferred to bumfuck nowhere.

Have a succubus.

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I wouldn't say capital E evil.

I would say cruel, however. Implacable. Ruthless. Incomprehensible. Plenty of other words.
Mostly however, Lawful Stupid seems to sum them up.

Here, "evil" is narrowly defined as "harm." An omnipotent being that knows the hearts of mankind can judge justly and condemn them in an instant. Evil? No. Celestial justice. They are in fact so good that they are intolerant of impurity. Just as demons by comparison cannot tolerate purity.

In most settings like those i can think of there isn't exactly an express bus from hell to the real world that i can think of. They're kinda stuck unless someone summons them or they get lucky.

neat

Psych enthusiasts have abandoned the Freudian model for (social) science. Didn't you get the memo?

Ruling council of eunuchs. Bam

Since when was the Bible the faintest bit relevant to this thread? "Succubus" should have been a clue that we aren't exactly dealing with christian mythology, because no such thing exists there.

Great idea for a campaign scenario, really. Lots of possibilities. Thanks!

"They're having sex with a demon!" is probably an excellent smear campaign and way to end someones political carreer in those settings. So most of the time when a high ranking political person sees a hot person they want to have sex with they have to weigh it against the fact that they might also be a demon. On the other hand there are plenty of other guaranteed non demon hot people they can have sex with.

There are different levels of "christian mythology." Some are more canonical than others. In this case, Jewish mysticism infiltrating Roman Catholic mysticism. Most angelology/demonology comes from these two sources.

Because the kind of a creature that's so good a lay it sways even most powerful of men is not the kind of a creature that would have any real agenda of its own besides being a damn good lay.

Because a vast 95+ percent of people in high society are smart enough not to voluntarily subject themselves to suicide via demonic snu snu and just hire magically enhanced hookers instead.

Nice. Or both the politician's mistress and the accuser's mistress are the same succubus in disguise.

>So most of the time when a high ranking political person sees a hot person they want to have sex with they have to weigh it against the fact that they might also be a demon.

And thus, they decide to hire a group of adventurers to make certain said soliciting concubine is a succubus or not.

are they like completely cut off from physical sensation, sorta like a living cpu type of deal? could a demon like magically/psychically impose sexual sensation on them remotely or through proxies; like a whatever this one virgin sacrifice is feeling you fuckers are now feeling as well?

Angels doping the same thing. Duh .

At that point you might as well just use mind control.
...which isn't a bad thing mind you. Mind controlled faction leaders are a useful and good storytelling tool. But at that point the succubus element is frankly unnecessary.

So the question now is; how is it in a setting where mind control spells exist is it that mortal societies aren't in complete disarray?
Bonus question; does magic resistance or true sight give you a resistance to succubi enticement? They're all hideous demons under their glamours, right?

>pic marginally related

Because it's really difficult to learn demon summoning, and even then, it's really difficult to get a succubus.

You can't summon demons by profession, and "succubus" is a profession.

You can summon demons by individual name. Ancient grimoires will give you lots of names of succubi. If you try these, you will find that they're all dead or gone, because once the name of a succubus is in wide enough circulation that you can stumble across it in a grimoire, someone will smite it or bind it or entomb it or something.

You can look for a wizard who knows the name of a succubus *not* in wide circulation. Go on, guess what that wizard is doing with that name. Guess what the wizard's reaction will be to anyone else asking if they can have it too.

You can also summon demons by rank: a Baron of Hell, a Duke of Hell, etc. Succubi exist at all ranks, and are a minority at all ranks. Chain-summoning until you get hot demon chick is a chore where you die if you fuck up.

Demons with the capacity for illusion, shapeshifting and other trickery also exist at all ranks, and outnumber succubi. Even if you very carefully and laboriously bind and compel the hot demon chick to not steal your soul, not bite off anything, not injure or pain you in any way, to present an honest vagina and not a disguised ass, not to put contact poison in its vagina, et cetera, et cetera, you still risk missing some clause you hadn't thought of and now you've been kissing Heroin-Breath The Bloody Harlequin and she has you by the metaphorical balls when it comes to negotiating further services because you need that fix.

If you try to circumvent the loophole issues of demon binding with generalities about commanding good behavior, the demon will usually combust on the spot because that's inimical to its nature.

I was going to go with a traitor in the midst of the eunichs, who still has his twig 'n' berries, but is eventually rooted out by the succubus.

Pic reminds me of a DM I had once.

Once.

>are they like completely cut off from physical sensation, sorta like a living cpu type of deal?
When thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind, it's time to start reshaping minds of chosen few towards the ways of the machine.

Depends on the setting.

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That image is retarded.

And I'm not just talking about "angel prostitutes", or even putting angel prostitutes in Orzhov.

It wants Boros replaced by Azorius, fuck no. Selesnya folded into Orzhov, I would say kill me, but under Orzhov that won't even help. Calling for a "perfectly peaceful" Ravnica but keeping Izzet and Rakdos while getting rid of Simic, WTF? This is selective utopianism and favoritism across the board.

It's hard to say what their effect would be without knowing more about the succubi/sex demons and how long they've been around.

Are they inherently evil or just creatures that sustain themselves with sex? Do they kill to sustain or can they just have a little boink session?

Imagine a world where succubi have been around for hundreds of years and just need to fuck a guy now and then. The society would be vastly different from ours since the attitude of sex would be so different.

Posting lewd because it fits the thread.

>In the not!China the emperor became a figurehead to prevent demonic influence after the previous one was discovered to be fucking a succubus
It writes itself.

Koakuma is an Imp, not a Succubus.

Simic destroys more than Izzet, just all at once instead of gradually.
They're also (slightly) the more evil of the two.

The Cult of Rakdos exists to keep Rakdos asleep.

Not what succubi are you fucking neckbeard

Seriously, Veeky Forums gets more autistic by the day

To be fair I'm sure than existence of magic alone would change the world in ways most shitty fantasy writers can't even imagine.

Do you think Hillary and Trump are chiefly motivated for their desire for sex? They are both well into their sixties and already have all the resources they need to have all the sex they could want anyway.

Playing devil's advocate here but... Something something Clinton.

Though to be fair he's small time compared to Berlusconi, who I'm pretty sure is a Slaaneshi cultist.

Because people who live in a fantasy world who want to try something exotic would probably understand that a succubus would be almost the worst choice they could make?

I mean you got dryads, pixies, centaurs, lillends, nagas, sphinxes, the list potentially goes on and on, and you want to hook up with the one creature that is built around sex based murder?

In many medieval societies high ranking leaders can pick and choose between mistresses. Some would have entire harems to sate their lust.

Occasionally concubines and mistresses might become powerful enough to influence leaders. But most of the time there would just be so many choices of lovers to have sex with the ruler just moves from woman to woman to boy to girls on a daily basis. A succubus would have some fierce competition if she tried to corrupt a king with as many potential sex partners as there are women i the kingdom.

In summary: 1) Leaders of the day wouldn't be thirsting for sex constantly 2) political skill would be much more important for a lover to make herself relevant than just being able to have sex with the leader.

Lot of talk about libido in here, but don't they have straight up charm magic?

The thing is demon sex should by definition feel many times better than normal one.

3 possible options:

>Most of them spend their time seducing greater and more powerful demons in hell

>They're refugees from hell because the material planes are much, much nicer and they'd rather not get sent back, so they behave well

>Slutty angel counter ops teams

Charm magic doesn't work on anyone important. Protection from Evil makes you flat-out immune and is 1st level.

>underestimating mortals

>every world is D&D

>I get upset when someone uses an example

Most people probably wouldn't even bother trying to get laid if they could just summon a succubus instead.

Apparently onaholes are enough to destroy birthrate. Imagine what succubi would do.

Depends on how much it costs to cast a spell. Also if the succubus tries to bite your dick off when you climax in three strokes

Azazel and a couple hundred other angels decided to have sex with chicks and teach their human followers superior knowledge so they could kill and subdue anyone who wasn't for them. The archangels see that and realize it's some serious bullshit, and acknowledging the serious bullshit God sends Enoch to send an official condemnation to all the angels involved.

Enoch is a fun book, gets real trippy at one point but it's fun

>nobody would care since they can get laid anyways

Seriously?

The entire point of demon girls is that they look so good no human could even compete. And fuck so good anyone would get addicted to them. To the point normal human would never be enough again.

>He thinks that Freud is still relevant

Yes, yes it does. As folklore.

Do you even know how retarded modern psychology is? Everybody is exactly the same, there are no brain differences between men and women, you get crucified if you are not ultra leftist and there are like 20 genders.

I'd take Freud over this bullshit.

Anyone with a decent pool of willpower could just spend a point in WoD to overcome it or resist with secondary dice pools.

Oh, yeah, those would be the tranny-rapist semen-bumblebees from earlier in the thread. "Succubi" in Christian folklore were demons that would rape a man in his sleep, steal his semen, then rape a woman in her sleep and impregnate her with the man's semen, adding relationship drama on top of rape.

And then they got sexified and hottified in a manner similar to what Twilight did with vampires, resulting in the current monster manual entry.

Humans capable of resisting vampire mind powers in 2E pretty much don't exist. Even spending WP does shit.

>"Succubi"
Don't forget that the kid would be part demon, because what are genetics?

Normal humans are not adventurers in WoD.

Tip: nothing in Christianity is original.

Tip: I wasn't the one who brought up the Bible.

And then they were used in porn, eclipsing things even further beyond the ridiculous.

Heck, aside from a few leaders that are worth manipulating long-term, most succubi encounters of the soul-stealer variety can probably take their price while the horny peasant is busy getting dressed.

And this thread is not about supernaturals fighting supernaturals, but supernaturals manipulating human society.