What the hell is everyone's problem with girls in unrealistic armor?

What the hell is everyone's problem with girls in unrealistic armor?

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Autism being present in the people complaining about it.

in low fantasy - it's sub-par choice because practical / realistic armor would protect better
if it's high fantasy - it's sub-par choice because playing spellcaster is strictly superior

I don't mind it if the whole setting is highly stylized. If the men are all in cleary practical gear though it's jarring.

Well I don't know about armor, but my problem with you is how you use the word 'everyone'

It's a combination of people who are too hung up on realism and people who believe any sexual expression is bad.

They're both wrong, some of the time. The only thing a setting should be is consistent. If you're going with reasonable armour, go with reasonable armour. If you're going with boobplate, then I better see fuckoff great codpieces and exposed chests on your dudes, too.

Mainly the fact it's often transparent fanservice and is inconsistent with the surrounding environment. Men typically wear conservative, practical-looking armor. Women wearing what is ostensibly the same armor have large areas of skin showing, typically their midriffs, thighs, and cleavage. There's really no point to this kind of dissonance other than you just want to see the women wearing less. I don't get up in arms over it, but it's not appealing to me either.

I mean, I don't really give a shit about whether or not armor is "realistic" in terms of appearance or function but I do prefer it when it actually looks like armor. Metal lingerie is not my thing, aesthetically, even if the male equivalent is equally skimpy. Generally when I come across art designs which use the bikini look I just sort of roll my eyes.

Because realistic apparel is more attractive than retarded cheesecake armor and I can at least take it seriously.

And it's easy to suspend my disbelief for a woman being as physically capable as a man, it's not easy for me to suspend my disbelief for huge tracts of exposed skin not being a problem.

For the same reason I would tell a player who asked to use as a pool noodle as a weapon to stop being retarded.

It's not armor. Don't pretend it's armor.

Jack off on your own time.

Unrealistic armor? I'm fine with that.
Retarded-looking armor? That's a no-go.

See, I find a girl in a cute dress more beautiful than a girl without a dress at all.
I'm not aroused by skin exposure and the like that is innately present in bikini armor and its derivatives, but my dick goes immediately diamonds when I see a well-designed stylish armor and clothing (like "muh landsknechts").

Remember, kids - manners maketh man, and that includes dressing stylishly.
Everybody loves a sharp-dressed man.

>Mordhau

muh dick

Armor like your pic is fine. I've never met anyone who had a problem with it.
What's absolutely unacceptable is ALL of the following together:
1. SPECIFICALLY made of metal and intended to protect
2. SPECIFICALLY shaped like a bikini with nothing but bare skin around and under it
3. SPECIFICALLY justified with "more mobility"
If your entire fighting style is based on never getting hit, you're admitting you don't expect your metal "armor" the size of two Doritos to deflect a hit, so it doesn't matter whether you're wearing it or not.

Fap bait = shit tier waifus

Eh, no, I wouldn't say his pic is fine.
Spikes are almost always a bad choice for a good armor design (stylistic-wise, not protection-wise).
If you remove the spikes, then you get a standard Saber dress, which is as generic and lazy as clothing/armor design goes.
And while I'm fine with generic designs if they are stylish and fit the wearer, in this particular case, this just isn't true.

>using the term "waifus" in plural form
>using the term "waifus" unironically
user, please.

>spikes
>useless protection wise

Are aware that an important portion between armored fighters includes wrestling?

Reading comprehension.
"BAD CHOICE FOR STYLISTIC DESIGN OF AN ARMOR."
ENGLISH, DO YOU SPEAK IT, MOTHERFUCKER?

>Morhau
Hnng!

Oh, you're right. My bad

Why do you hate practical armor designs? They're much better than tacking on random shit and oversizing parts to look cool, or striping away any reasonable protection just to be tantalizing.

>sword to her exposed fucking face

Hnngh!

I think it's just unrealistic armor in general that gets me. and "style" isn't even an excuse because there's some really stylish armor that isn't autismal
>huge/ pointless shoulders
>no neck armor
>head/face not covered by a bassinet or for god's sake at least a grill
>obligatory plate bikini / heels
but by far
>downward opening segments
it would be super easy to get a thrusting weapon up & between downward opening segments. (that's why real armor never had them) The chevron shaped grooves in pic related are vertical opening segments.

Thanks ZZ Top.

>Yeah, I'm bleeding. Whatcha gonna do about it? I'll hold my sword backwards and murder-stroke the shit outta you, I don't give a fuck.

Most people who insist on using it for character art usually stole it from a video game or an anime, and both are signs of shit players.

It was a slight problem in P&P rpgs and then it got totally overblow by the mmorpg genre and has only gotten worst as time passed. So it's just a kneejerk reaction to not like it at this point.

2nd from the left would be the most guilty of being 'Not Armor'.

(in)famous last words.

>holding the shield the wrong way

Well, tip of the morning fedora to you, my jolly-good gentle-sir! Aren't women ugly when they wear makeup?

>wearing 50kg of pointlessly thick anime armor
>weapon is another 20kg
>face not even covered
>guy in wafer-thin armor that covers his front from head to toe just stabs you in the eye with an estoc

>I'm not aroused by skin exposure and the like that is innately present in bikini armor and its derivatives

Same here. Bikini armor fails at being arousing for two reasons:
- Plain skin is boring, except for a few parts that the bikini armor always covers.
- I've got access to porn.

A fully clothed girl with the right attitude can be arousing because of the implication that the clothes could be coming off. Bikini armor doesn't have that implication, it states that the character is showing as much flesh as she is ever going to.

Now I don't mind bikini armor existing. Though I do have a problem it being so common that it doesn't leave room for more interesting armor designs.

I don't know, the far right one appears to not be armor at all.

Carpe diem!

Took a meme to the knee.

>le "womyn in realistic armor"
>long hair

>holding the shield the wrong way
Also:
>Yo dog, so I heard you like pauldrons, so I got pauldrons for your pauldrons for your pauldrons so you can deflect blows while you deflect blows while you deflect blows.

>implying implications

Would wear 1 3 and 4
2 is alright
5 isn't armor
>exposing knee caps
Asking to get memed

Trips of truth indeed

Sometimes bitches' knees need to be capped.

>female midget in the roman army
I could see this as a Colosseum event.

Eh, more often than not you contrast the metal lingerie with dudes who wear entire houses covered in spikes. Both are equally ridiculous, though I tend to prefer overdesigned to underdesigned.

Something like pic related strikes a happy medium, I find. Maybe throw a cape on there. I'm a sucker for capes.

Ah, yes. Guild Wars 2. Not the worst example, just the one I've played.

Everything tries to show societies with equality between the sexes, until you look at what everyone is wearing. Among three of the playable races there is a lot of mens clothing that is only worn by males and a lot that is only worn by females.

Somehow we are meant to believe that their societies aren't sexist despite the very clear rules about male and female clothing. Rules that everybody follows and nobody talks about.

wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Embroidered_armor#Human
Just one example of how two armors that are from the same set look very different on males and females.


I don't mind the "as sexy as we could make it without annoying the ESRB" female armor existing. My complaint is that I don't get to choose between that and the male armors.

Also there is no sexy male armor. Just to hammer home the sexism that the lore is trying to deny.

We've been raised with feminism and believe it's immoral to treat male and female characters differently.

The general rule is that guys dress for function first and fashion second, while girls are dressing to attract male attention. That chainmail bikini gives you a fabulous armor class: one or more meat shields with legit armor.

Fantasy tabletop role-playing games are full of anachronisms, which we ignore because facts are inconvenient to our enjoyment of our game. And rightly so, because it's JUST A GAME, and the purpose is to HAVE FUN. The people who argue too ardently about things like this are either too caught up or have hurt feelings that they won't admit to.

Wait a minute... Am I looking at this right?

No I'm not.

What the fuck is wrong with their toenails.

I never played GW2 but I did play 'Granado Espada' and they had the whole thing sexy M/F characters equally shown off down pat. Sometimes the male outfits would actually be more revealing then the female counterpart.

Could you post some comparison images of the male and female variants of the same armor skin ?
Here are some GW2 comparisions:
gw2armorgallery.com/human-light.htm
gw2armorgallery.com/human-medium.htm
gw2armorgallery.com/human-heavy.htm
gw2armorgallery.com/human-outfits.htm
Ignore the colour differences. All colours can be used by everyone.

Personally I'd be happy if all armor skins in the game were equally wearable on both genders, with the only difference being due to anatomical differences.

Including the "sexy" armors. I don't mind it existing, I just get annoyed that the males get the better looking (in my opinion) armors.

Yes, that means that male characters with bikini armors. Not something I want to look at but something that I'd be a hypocrite to oppose.

Though that's for MMOs. For tabletop RPGs it's not an issue as I can declare that my character is or isn't wearing bikini armor.

what aboout medium magic

please post historical armor with spikes on it

armor has always been about getting blows to glance off, having a spike on your armor will just make it easier for your opponent to land a blow.

>loli with impossibly huge hammer

I personally don't really care. I like hyper realistic armor, and like that unreal as fuck shit. But I would never have armor that doesn't fit the game.

Eventually there comes a point where armor doesn't protect you. Now, that doesn't mean you shouldn't wear armor, because you should. There's a lot of things armor does protect you from. But if a GM told me that this less protective looking armor was enchanted and had magic to make it just as good as or better than normal armor, than i'd roll with it.

Depends on...

>Tone of the setting
>Whether magic (which could easily explain revealing armor or even casual clothes being used for battle)
>Tone of the setting
>Whether it fits the characters personality
>Tone of the setting
>Whether the character design looks nice
>Tone of the setting.

>loli with impossibly huge penis

>shota with impossibly huge penis

I don't care if it's realistic or not I just think that sometimes it gets too retarded and usually it's for the sake of cheap TnA.

Im not gonna bitch if the armor isn't 1:1 medieval accurate but at least look like clothes someone might wear

It seems to come primarily from anime influences (i.e. Meme la Meme) intermingling with too many games. Some players--in WoW in particular--want their character to be eye candy, which is an attractive prospect for your run of the mill neckbeard. In the case of WoW, the most expensive pieces of social armor (Transmogs) are the really slutty pieces of plate armor, AKA Armorkinis. Due to the rarity of these pieces of armor and the insane prices they fetch (you can pay for a month of the game with just a few pieces of the set) you can only assume that the demand is pretty high.

Maybe it's just kids without porn?

I do agree with another user here. At the risk of sounding like a fag, I derive attractiveness from a chick's outfit based on the implications of said outfit, such as status or personality. I'm more likely to respect a "knightly" sort of character if I can reasonable believe they are a knight, not a bitch in a metal bikini with a sword. I can suspend my disbelief of magic and demons, but if you world has realistic laws of physics, swords will behave the same and you need armor that matches the real world.

her hands are as wide as her waist

she also doesn't have a nose

that poor woman

Then how does she smell?

terrible

like roses

The better to hand-hold fist stroke wrestle punch hug you with.

>tfw I am American and still don't have a good measure of how much a kilogram weighs.

Thanks public school!

>Maybe it's just kids without porn?

They would probably be one of the groups most in support of bikini armor. Because it's as close to porn as they can get without their parents getting angry.

The other group would be the people who don't like any change that they notice.

If I'm gming and a player describes their character wearing 'sexy' armor, I just have all NPCs treat it as regular armor. Thus allowing me to ignore the 'sexy' part and think of it as armor, while the player can keep thinking it looks like however he wants it to look.

That solves the issue in most cases. As for the other issues:
- If he wants a stat bonus for sexy armor, I'll try to accommodate him. But stating it as sexy armor means it's no longer effective armor, so it will be less effective in combat. Probably a weight reduction as it doesn't use as much material. But no cost reduction, as the crafters who make sexy armor demand a higher price for their labour.
- If he keeps talking about how sexy it is. The problem here is not the armor, but the player who keeps trying to bring up sex.

Gosh that's a smug looking breastplate.

Maybe your kilogram should stop shrinking and it wouldn't weigh so much.

>what the hell is everyone's problem with girls?
fixed

They're icky and their peehole is not the same as their "sex here" hole.

If I want to jerk off then let's have tit plate

But if I want to take a thing seriously then make practical gear
Meaning girls wouldn't be in armour in the first place since that is what is real desu

If we want to have fun then let's do both. But i won't be taking it as serious. But it's fun

I don't want to play with some guy who can't control his boner. That get's annoying fast

>don't have a good measure of how much a kilogram weighs.
It's simple, 1 liter of water is 1 kilogram.

Wait a second you're trying to trick me, aren't you?

Do you only dm with characters with lots of erotic descriptions?

...

A lot of people like realistic armor more. How is this hard to understand?

This.

And one liter is a cube one decimeter to a side.

I see *tips fedora* thrown around a lot on Veeky Forums, and especially Veeky Forums, but this is the neckbeardest thing I've read in days, at least.

How the fuck is it neckbearding? Attitude is far sexier than tee hee look at my panties which frankly gets boring fast. If anything the fanservice armor is neck beardier

I never thought I'd see the day when people would try to draw up a measure of "neck-beardiness" other than the actual presence and thickness of a neckbeard.

>See, I find a girl in a cute dress more beautiful than a girl without a dress at all because I'm just special like that

But mostly
>Remember, kids - manners maketh man, and that includes dressing stylishly.
>Everybody loves a sharp-dressed man.

>>Everybody loves a sharp-dressed man.

are you arguing with ZZ top? Really Im sorry no one wants to compliment you on your green lantern logo tee

I am. Because it's very rare for anyone who boasts about how well they dress to actually dress well.

Tell me about how well you dress, user. I look forward to hearing it.

It's actually not nearly as bad as you think.
youtube.com/watch?v=vwuQPfvSSlo

If someone else's aesthetic preferences in a game of make-believe are rustling your jimmies, maybe you should find a new hobby. Just saying.

it's less about aesthetic and more about someone trying to force their fetish into the setting where it may not fit.

I accidentally added you to the reply, sorry for the double hollow (You)'s

I have more of an issue with girls all wearing full cuirass.
Why the boobplates?
Unnecessarily hard to forge.
It'd be like fitting a bra except in metal.
And what would the chick do if her boobs grew?
"Well fuck I can't use it now I can't get the fucking side straps to close."
Just give them a plackart they can use with a coat of plates or a brigandine, or just a gambeson and maille.
Then you get reasonable protection, reasonable boobage, and reasonable mobility.

3rd post best post

thread should have stopped here

Then it doesn't really matter because everyone has mind powers

For high magic settings, wouldn't there be a decent number melee fighters be just as stuffed with magic as the arty piece mages?

They would just be superhuman.

Of course, not all melee fighters have to be that way in a setting, but neither do all the spell-casters have to be any good.

youtube.com/watch?v=vwuQPfvSSlo

Fucked if I know. It's a world of high fantasy, adventure, and so on and so forth. I'm not playing a real-life simulator.

Though this is a valid point.

This.

Apart from the designs themselves there's also the problem of characters wearing plate armor as day-to-day wear, which, to me, seems about as unrealistic as boob plates,

We are autists,
We can NOT talk to or acknowledge "girls"
but what really bothers us is historically inaccurate armor or inefficient design.

-This has been a public service announcement-

2.2 pounds (or close enough). 50 kg is about 110 pounds.

Not that you'd actually need to know that if you went to Britain or Ireland - in my experience people there talk about weight in terms of ounces, pounds, and stones (14 pounds) rather than kilograms. When they say "tons" they probably mean Metric tonnes, though.

Which *should not be a thing*, by the by. It's a MEGAGRAM, you inconsistent fucks; if you're gonna harp on about the Metric system being superior then you should friggin' USE IT. Say it with me: megagram. MEGAGRAM. 1,000,000 grams. 1,000 kilograms.

For that matter I never hear anyone use most SI terms, either, and they'd probably struggle to even name the ones that should be in common use. Why is something "half a kilometer"? Don't you have your fancy Metric system precisely so that you can say "five hectometers"? Shouldn't the distance from Earth to the Sun be expressed as 149.6 gigameters, not 149.6 million kilometers? IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE EASY, ISN'T IT?!

...anyway. In America you don't need to know it at all, because we still use our version of the Imperial system. Which is just comfier and not harder at all for day-to-day use. In point of fact, Americans tend to be better at eyeballing things like distance, weight, and temperature than Europeaners, precisely because the Imperial system is based on real-world phenomena (1 foot is roughly equal to the length of the average person's foot, for example), whereas the Metric system is based on entirely arbitrary measurements.

Is that a Princess sub-classed into Hoplite?

It needs to be setting consistent.

In World of Warcraft everyone's running around in wacky shit so who cares if Night Elf archers wear bikinis

Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings (despite having magical shit) are much more grounded so it'd be awful in those settings.