Can Eldritch Horrors be friendly?

Can Eldritch Horrors be friendly?

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No

Yes.

Yes

maybe

Yes, but they'll make you wish they weren't.

Yes they can be friendly but at the same time they make you go crazy and cut you into pieces.

When the guy finally let Nyarlathotep have the D at the end of the light novel he was basically begging for death the entire night.

She's a lovely person, but you're still getting a tentacle up your urethra on your first night together.

Maybe. Not that one though, that one's a psychopath.

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I imagine that eldritch horrors can be very friendly! I also imagine that their thought processes would be completely and utterly alien to us, and that their idea of 'friendly' quite possibly does not coincide with out idea of 'friendly'. Indeed, there could be quite a wide margin there.

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I think it is an intriguing idea to have the eldritch horror-related horrible things happen not because of malice, but because of some weird kind of sympathy.

>ur-quan are the best
>and we reincarnate
>therefore, if we kill everyone but the ur-quan, we give the lesser creatures greater and greater chances to reincarnate as ur-quan, who are the best
>We are such nice dudes.

That's a solid theory. Go ur-quan.

Traditionally the Lovecraft-esque horrible stuff is less because of malice and more because they don't give a fuck about humans - do you care about the ants walking on the sidewalk? There are people who do, though, and isn't that an intriguing thing to extrapolate from.

Elias from the OP is an interesting example of that, actually - he's plenty friendly and such, but he doesn't really understand humans. It's just that he's making an effort to learn. It's pretty cute.

Another thing that comes to mind is the Angels in Neon Genesis Evangelion - a non-insignificant amount of the mindraping they do is just them trying to communicate with humans and not getting that humans don't do so by blending the soul or whateverthefuck it is they do.

Allegedly the prisoner-faction was getting ready to fight the horrors from beyond time.

He really isn't eldritch. He's apparently a reasonably ancient nonhuman being that consumed human flesh, which is like an insta-level gain plus a massive stat boost for the likes of him in chinese/japanese/korean mythology.

That is a neat thought. I've thoughtlessly crushed bugs more times than I can count, but every now and then I'll do something... kind? I'll move a snail off a path so it doesn't get stepped on, catch a spider with a cup instead of a newspaper, herd a fly out the window. Couldn't say why, I just do.

But what would an Eldritch being trying to shoo you out the window or move you off the path look like?

And that's not even starting on the kind of person who throws scrap food to an ants nest 'just because'.

That sounds like *silly cow* talk to me.

ugu take responsibility

Its always fascinated me how in the bible angel's are always saying "do not be afraid". How Eldritch do you have to be for that to be your standard opening line?

The answer will unfortunately kill you

No. They have no concept of friendship, and thus, cannot be friendly. They can likely exhibit some aspect that could be interpreted as being friendly, but no.

Biblical angels are pretty trippy/nightmare-ish.

Very rarely.

That's what I've been playing in my 5e group, Great Old One Warlock who's basically a braindead corpse being meat puppeted around, taking all the Psychic and Shapeshifting abilities to make Psychic Alex Mercer.

He's not so much "friendly" as curious about the world and realized that the best way to keep their only host alive is to pass off as a normal human.

>Eldritch horror flying through space, about to smash into earth.
>Moves all of earth to another galaxy
>Alternatively, moves a handfull of people to a different planet that looks pretty (like a good place to live) to the eldritch horror before it rams into our planet.

No. Human psychology just doesn't apply.

That doesn't mean they never help humans, though; e.g. the invisible creature in Joseph Curwen's basement. Plus Nyarlathotep helping out Keziah Mason, even if that didn't benefit mankind in the long run.

He is not an eldritch horror, he is fey.

Well, there are the Seraphim. They cover themselves in wings because if a human were to look upon their true form the person would burst into flames. They were supposed to represent God's love, I think.

>And that's not even starting on the kind of person who throws scrap food to an ants nest 'just because'.
That kind of person is what we ants call 'God'.

A benevolent entity from beyond, with the power and the will to gift us all that is good and watch over us would be easily taken for an almighty creator.

no

Yes

Not that eldritch to be honest. There are tippy angels in the Bible but most of the messenger ones are just winged dudes/animals on fire. Seraphim and the like don't generally deliver speeches to mortals.

Which is alarming enough for some near-east dirt farmer.

Almost all the Great Ones in Bloodborne are willing to assist humanity in exchange for a child. Most of them actually get exploited - humans are the real villains.

More like time for dancing.

If they're so easy to understand that they can be accurately described as friendly, then they're not eldritch, they're just a regular-ass non-human being or monster with a tryhard appearance.
This is garbage.

Sure they can.

im glad this is getting serialized, less so that its not hardcore

I don't think the Bible ever says what Angels actually look like other than that there is never any doubt that you are looking at one.

The humanoid look I think is mostly because of byzantine and renaissance artists. Daniel's first mention of them by names is in reference to the apocalypse.

>we ants

LN authors should have their fingers broken, their tongues cut out, and their eyes gouged out, so they can never again write, dictate, or have fun again. The shit makes YA look like immortal classics in comparison.

Well there is the officially-canon drawn-by-the-same-dude full-H sidestory, so.

They give really strange descriptions.

This site gives a rundown:

whatchristianswanttoknow.com/what-do-angels-look-like-a-biblical-analysis/

Here are some direct citations from NIV:

Isaiah 6:2: Above him were seraphim, each with six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying.

Daniel 10:5-6: I looked up and there before me was a man dressed in linen, with a belt of fine gold from Uphaz around his waist. His body was like topaz, his face like lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and his voice like the sound of a multitude.

yeah, but there's only two of those

>not hardcore
that chapter might as well have been hardcore

but then you'll have to glop their meals into them

nice meme dude

>not hardcore
this is from the "SFW" version

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Robert E Howard's lovecraftian stuff. It's more about a lack of understanding (not in the spook from space kind of way), like the tower of the elephant and the rue morgue parody.

Hardcore basically means niggers/fat old men and the rest of that garbage.

it's erotic yeah, but I want some penetration

get that weak ntr shit out of here

>but I want some penetration
The ear cleaning chapter has some penetration and ahegao.

oh you

that was niiiiiiice tho

Is the SFW version out already? I know the writer got it serialised, but no idea how far along in development it was.

5 chapters so far translated.

No, if an eldritch horror is friendly, it's probably not a horror and definitely not eldritch.

Haven't you confused horror with eldritch? Eldritch means stuff like otherworldly or weird. Elves and wizards can be described as eldritch, for instance.

What are we if not ants before the higher beings of beyond.

No, I did not confuse it and used it with that exact meaning.

don't insult ants like that, they really got there shit together

This is true and I hate them so much.

If you even find yourself with a roomate that habitually leaves unclean dishes around, you should probably kill him and clean it up or you'll find yourself with an infestation of ants.

That's what they are like in Bloodborne. The Old Ones are sympathetic in nature and are just trying to help.

>If you even find yourself with a roomate that habitually leaves unclean dishes around, you should probably kill him and clean it up or you'll find yourself with an infestation of ants

This is very true.

What is this? Tried image searching, but the only title I could find was love echo. And trying to google that gave me websites for support for that amazon thing.

So, what are the actual definitions of eldritch? Because I believe it's something to do with "Beyond our understanding" and if you dumb it down to the point in you understand it it ceases to be eldritch.

Link to said chapters?

Adjective
eldritch (comparative more eldritch, superlative most eldritch)
Unearthly, supernatural, eerie.

1790, Robert Burns, Tam o' Shanter:
>So Maggie runs, the witches follow,
>Wi' mony an eldritch skriech and hollo.

1850, Nathaniel Hawthorne, The Scarlet Letter, chapter VII:
>Pearl, in utter scorn of her mother's attempt to quiet her, gave an eldritch scream, and then became silent.

Basically, it's way older than Lovecraft's use of the term and was more used for weird stuff. Note the old-fashioned use of "weird" there.

"The Sister of the Woods With a Thousand Young" or "Ane Naru Mono"

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Eldritch horror sets up his human farm with mail ordered humans...

>few thousand years pass (going by bible time)

Man, this is waaaay too much micro management to get them to do what I want! I'll just put them on the counter over here, they'll take care of themselves probably.

>Meanwhile

GOD IS DEAD! We are forsaken!

>aw man there's satellites everywhere
>what the hell is wrong with you little shits, I was only gone for a few millennia

>Where the fuck did I put the messenger system for this shit?

Thank you

Can Eldritch Horses be friendly?

Sure they can. They love friends.

>And that's not even starting on the kind of person who throws scrap food to an ants nest 'just because'.

>ancient alien race hears that we like oil
>sees we are running low on it
>decides to be nice and pours unfathomable amounts of oil over an entire continent with his space magic

depends on the s___________

by definition, they're not supposed to be friendly. they're supposed to be totally unrelatable to human beings. they represent the "other", the other that will always be the strange and non-understandable. if i remember correctly, it's completely inaccurate to even RP as a character that likes eldritch horrors. they're supposed to be this universally repelling and fucking weird-ass creatures no one can comprehend, and therefore, they cannot love and they cannot be loved. they're kinda like the angels in evangelion, with the exception of EVA-01.

I'd personally would say that there are people that like eldritch horrors.
We call them lunatics. Madmen. Psychopaths.
There is a border between human and horror and just like humans can't understand and empathize with horrors we can't empathize with the mad, because they aren't on our side of the border.
They are on theirs.

Of course. Any and all creatures will have outliers and exceptions. Even things as small as bacteria will eventually have one that is different from the others, even if it's through mutation.

To say that all eldritch horrors would be cruel is a bit of a stretch. They're called "horrors" because they look "scary" to us and are frightening. Bloodborne does a good example of this because there are several Great Ones that are not hostile until attacked.

Bloodborne has "sympathetic" great ones. They could be summoned my humans and could offer assistance... kinda. Usually using heir powers or blood to break the normal rules of existence. Problem was their presence still fucked shit up, and their sympathy didn't make them any less alien or dangerous to the ones they were helping.

Of course!

Wasn't the real horror in Lovecraft and his more successful copies the realization that real horrors are internal? That one bad day is all it takes for someone to become the Joker? That, faced with the unknown, we are all like the person astrally projecting for the first time?

>the invisible creature in Joseph Curwen's basement.

I've always been under the impression that it was Curwen and friend's teacher who introduced them into the arcane secrets before they reduced him down to powder.

Considering the nature of the Hunter's Nightmare a part of me imagined the imagery used for Ludwig was that of the horse-faced guardians of Hell (Naraka) in Buddhist mythology.

s... sauce?

I don't think she really counts.
She's evil and turns the MC evil too.

No idea. Just got the pic.
Just watch a lot of eva porn and you're bound to find it sooner or later. That might also (not) double as real life san check.

>they're kinda like the angels in evangelion, with the exception of EVA-01.
Tabris says hi.

Also, of course, Leliel/Ariel/Tabris all tried to actively communicate with various pilots and talk to them - it's just that they don't have a fucking clue how humans talk to each other until Tabris comes along and instead Leliel and Ariel just communicate in nightmarish-to-humans ways. I'm probably forgetting some other examples there - Armisael, maybe?

Nah, the real horror in Lovecraft - cosmic horror in general, really - is that humans don't fucking matter, nothing you do will ever amount to anything, if God exist he just doesn't fucking care. You won't even have an ironic statue like Ozymandias did, you'll just be scattered atoms on a dead planet. The pale blue dot is so little, and so ultimately insignificant. We aren't even ants in the face of the horrors out there, and there's been thousands of civilizations that have risen and fallen where we are now, many greater than ours, without anyone remembering them.

Somehow, though, he still managed to stay relatively positive despite having that attitude. Hell if I know how, though.

He's more of a sociopath.

He literally does not understand humans

You're a right pussy, m8

He's trying his best to learn how to, though!

I wonder what'll happen when he finds out what marriage actually entails. I'm not sure that he knew what he was doing when he went out and got a fiancee.

Mostly by being incredibly racist and blaming all his problems on others.

True.

>He literally does not understand humans
that doesn't qualify as a disorder when the creature is not human itself