Pathfinder General /pfg/

Well, defenses, including saves, WERE one of the things that 4e got right.

Oh cool, didn't actually know. I'm not really familiar with 4e.

Doesn't it benefit casters more, though? Frontliners need con anyway, so being able to pick the better of strength and con isn't really a big deal(especially since with a couple exceptions, they already have good fort anyway), and being able to switch wis to cha or dex to int benefits int or cha based classes the most.

>is there a reason my dm didnt coup de grace the paralyzed pc that was within the distance needed, other then the fact that our dm is being too nice?
If the enemy is intelligent and isn't an assassin sent specifically after you, disabling those still fighting is generally a better idea.

Well you could always bar it from the full casters.

I'd rather just give fighter all good saves because why not.

Lord knows the fucker needs it.

Asked a few days ago about a scroll master build and someone mentioned Scroll of Silver Bullet. But for the life of me i cant find anything in the pfsrd about it. Plz halp

Hey does anyone have a map of the city named FreeStation? It's in The Kaava Lands.

They were referring to one scroll being your figurative silver bullet, having all your scroll'd spells on one actual scroll. Since you can use the spells on it without having to pull out a new scroll each time, and slap people with it if you need to.

It's not an actual thing.

Since most poisons are so terribly expensive and/or bad at scaling, and equipment trick is a bitch, is there any 3PP way I can make Adlet Mayer from Rokka no Yuusha?

Polymath alchemist? Poisoner's Stance gives a good increase to poison DC scaling, Solar Sting could easily do the caltrops thing too, just using a quick-drawn throwing weapon for it.

> a bloodrager or sorcerer cannot swap a bloodline power that she has altered or replaced with an archetype for a bloodline mutation
What the fuck.

I just found out about Starfinder and am super pumped.
Who is with me?

various kinds of pump, I would imagine.

Also breast pumped?

>You a shot in the face with blaster!
>Okay, I take, uh, what, 4 damage? Wew, that was dangerous.
I have a feeling Paizo would manage to make it worse than KotOR or d20future.

If you're wanting to play lethal, gritty dnd, you're better off playing 5e.

I'm looking forward to it. The biggest problem Pathfinder has is that it's shackled to the design paradigms from DnD 3.5. they've stated that Starfinder will be conversion friendly, though, rather than backwards compatible like they billed Pathfinder to be in regards to 3.5. This tells me they may be moving away from the old paradigms.

Such, as, for example, the fact that a friend has told me they're making a new crafting system. Because come on, it was needed.

At very worst? We get shit we can use in pathfinder with only a little work. But at best we get an actually working system that doesn't have glaring balance issues. Given Paizo's track record, I doubt it'll be the latter, but I bet it'll still be better balanced than PF - not that that's difficult.

They're doing what WotC failed to do and easing people into a transition rather than dropping an entirely new system on people without any warning or study.

>Ultimate Intrigur makes it very possible to run sessions upon sessions without any physical altercations. It can make Call of Cthulu investigations a real thing rather than some dice rolls in between stabbing an abberation.

How true is the above?

Well, it really depends on the group as to what goes on in their game. It's already possible to do that shit, Ultimate Intrigue just provides a few more tools. built around that; but it also supplies a ton of combat stuff.

So... can it do that? Sure. But since you could already do that before it's not saying much.

I just wan t my suspension of disbelief to make as few will saves as possible.

heh

> In general, you can take Improved Familiars for class-granted variant familiars like a shaman’s spirit animal, with a few exceptions

Oh.. this is cool... What should I change my Shaman Familiar into?

hello /pfg/!

I'm building a character for a new incoming campaign, and it's a school savant (Illusion) arcanist, eventually going Veiled Illusionist.
I got the basics, the spells are set (mostly) and the DC is high, but i don't know shit about caster feats.

Considering it's 1pp only, what's good metamagic for illusions?

It's literally the excuse the Nazis used when they started annexing portions of Europe. This is where we are, /pfg/. This is how we get worse than almost-porn-anime-girls in the OP.

Why would I want to deal with a patch of land and dirtfarmers on it? Are there no more dragons to (s)lay around?

Persistent and Quicken are always good, maybe Dazing if you want to use some area damage.

What the fuck happens if you cast ethereal jaunt while on an outer plane instead of prime material?

Because you're a weakling with no real combat skill and no other skills besides demagoguery (seriously you pumped all your skill points into that), but you still want to feel important. So you claim the Halflings are the dragons of the kingdom, you claim that the kingdom is overcrowded, and you go to war with the Elves, the Dwarves, and the Barbarian island tribes. Foolishly you ally with the Gnomes, who were only ever good for the last millennium at getting other people to fight for you, and the Tengu, who you don't really have anything in common with but who also hate Dwarves. Then you decide, being that you've dumped all stats but Charisma, that it would be smart to fight everyone at once. Later on, when things seem like they're doing okay, the god damn Tengu decide to sneak attack the Aasimar, and that's it for everything you planned. You've managed to learn one small spell and use it to detonate your own brain before the Ice Dwarves can reach you because they will encase you in molten gold for bothering them with your bullshit.

>So I full-attack with my spacegreataxe
>The spacewizard uses his interrupt action to invoke his 3+INT/Day Autogrimoire and thus casts emergency force-field instantly, blocking all your damage

>So Long Spacebows can offer about 380DPR, which is about twice as much as the dreadnought's primary wave-motion gun's DPR. Furthermore thanks to the spacedamantine arrows letting you ignore all ship hardness, they're actually doing about four times the damage in ship to ship combat than the energy-based main guns, whose damage is halved against objects like starfinder vessels and who can't ignore hardness due to having no material qualities to use.

>Blasters are 20 000 credits for a normal non-magical one, the ammunition about 5 credits apiece if you craft it yourself, OR you could just buy a +3 Long Spacebow and a few thousand arrows for the same price and do approximately eight times the DPR.

>It wouldn't be realistic for Crossspacebows to be reloaded rapidly; this is a medieval fantasy not some kind of space opera with clockwork technology

Uh I have my expectations on the subject. I'd hope to be proven wrong, but... I suspect I'm not far off.

Does Breaking Glass Strike from Shattered Mirror still deal weapon damage? The text usually states that it deals damage as normal + X effect on maneuvers, but it doesn't on BGS. BGS is actually the first thing I have seen that doesn't seem to deal weapon damage. So is it just a typo/mistake or is it actually not supposed to deal damage?

Got my Horror Adventures hardcover last night. Wish I had some more time to read it, there was some neat stuff. The Corruptions seemed like some very interesting quest hooks.

>energy-based main guns, whose damage is halved against objects like starfinder vessels and who can't ignore hardness due to having no material qualities to use
At least energy guns bypass force fields.

Wrong.
Only Lasers do, specifically. However invisibility makes you literally immune to them as well.

Unfortunately lasers are also fire damage... and not a lot of it either...

But yeah, if you use any other weapon than lasers (which include the laser torch, pistol, rifle, beam cannon and X) the force effects - fields included - are fully functional.

Also do you *really* think the starfinder force effects (maybe not the fields but definitely the magical ones) won't have been re-researched to "be effective against more modern weaponry" and thus be immune to lasers rather than let them through?

>But it makes sense and is balanced, because the laser does damage at range while this makes you immune to it, you can still melee the spacewizard as long as you uh, can get through? the forcefield? ROLLPLAYER ALERT HE'S A ROLLPLAYER MAKE HIM GO AWAY HIS QUESTION IS UNCOMFORTABLE AND THUS TRIGGERS THE ME

Hey can you tell me anything about werewolf corruption?

Will there be a Psionics update for Starfinder? I'd imagine the new game would require a bunch of new powers for shit like spaceship combat.

Only that its a thing. I just skimmed over it. I don't remember much about it. All corruptions have three levels of "failure", where if you fail the save against whatever your corruption's trigger is, you take alignment damage and take one step towards getting NPC'd. The trigger for Lycantrope corrpution is, I believe, the Full Moon. You also get "manifestations" of your corruption which both help and hurt you, for example with the Accursed corruption, you can give people a cursing death glare, but your eyes are malformed and you take (I think) negative modifiers on disguise and sense motive checks. Sadly, I don't remember the manifestations for the Lycantropes.

No, we'll get to enjoy lovely psychic classes.

And now you're importing Orcs because the natives aren't having kids anymore, and since you're a magic-based industry shipping in non-magical creatures will surely help your economy for the better.

Does anyone have the Way of the Wicked PDFs? I've been looking everywhere for them and all the links look super sketchy.

www72.zippyshare.com/v/atgqI284/file.html
Read book 7 before running book 1.

why's that?

>mfw I tried to join a Roll20 campaign with a tough Mwangi Steelfist Commando
>mfw the DM actually asked me if I was black, because otherwise I can't play an assertive black character

Sounds fake.

STOP MAKING INT THE DUMP STAT OF EVERY CHARACTER YOU REROLL.

It was a Living Campaign.

Book 7 is full of supplemental material that didn't fit in the first few books, including stuff that creates subplots through the entire AP. If you're running WotW, you would probably want to know about all of the extra content before finishing the campaign.

There was a similar story a long while back about a FR game, and I doubt it was the first, not to mention that the community yelled at a guy who wanted a woman for "diversity" (and got moderated which was when I quit R20 for good).

I would not doubt it.

'cause it's an addon to first six books.

Honestly I just assume all stories involving real people on here are fake. I've seen and participated in the topics here.

I'm cautiously optimistic. I just don't want it to amount to basically just "Pathfinder in space." I want new classes, new approaches to magic (it's thousands of years in the future, can we please ditch Vancian?), and stuff like that, rather than something like a setting book.

>can we please ditch Vancian?
>Paizo, ditch vancian casting

>tfw I just want a good lewd campaign to play my character in and roleplay knowing I've got the freedom to show or say basically anything.

What do you use to make your world map? I find myself needing a strategic world map with hexes or tiles, and don't know where to look.

Starfinder will be one more step removed from 3e, so it's a possibility. I'm not super-optimistic about it, but it's a possibility.

>What do you use to make your world map? I find myself needing a strategic world map with hexes or tiles, and don't know where to look.

inkarnate.com/

No, they're just going to use their shitty psychic magic system instead of psionics. Paizo can't make non-vancian systems.

This.
I'm fully expecting there to be the wizard class, and there being some waffle about 'Tomes are now dataslates' and 'wizards towers are now satelites' and all sorts of fluff reskins and 'some spells are lost to time, some have been made anew for this modern time and some were forgotten and rediscovered." but it's going to boil down to the final line of 'regardless of time's passing, wizards still remain at core what they were since the days of yore, true intellectuals and masters of reality."

Because why change things that aren't broke, says Paizo.

Is slavery still evil if a slave race had been conditioned long ago to desire and enjoy complete servitude to others?

Even children raised outside of slavery have a powerful instinct to blindly serve a master.

>Is slavery still evil
I've seen the argument made that slavery is less "Evil" and more "Lawful", fundamentally.

Probably not.

Slavery is also not evil if you follow the Roman model - that is, slavery is built around legally selling yourself into slavery to pay off debts or support your family.

Children born from slave parents in the Roman model were free, you know.

I don't think slavery has been called out as explicitly evil in PFI could very well be wrong, so don't quote me on that. Though I imagine the writers certainly think so.
Slavery could easily be neutral if you take the "undesirables" or what not, have them work for you, but treat them well and help raise them from their previous position.

I think Gygax thought CG people took slaves instead of killing babies.

Can't you just lie assuming no voice?

And shit it's not like you made a spear chucking Marksman named "Dindu Nuffin or Kunta Kente" or something.

>Can't you just lie assuming no voice?

No? Why would I lie?

If these shits are the types that would actually get angry at a white guy playing a black man, I want to see it through to the bitter end with my honesty intact.

I'm excited for the vigilante archetype literally called "serial killer".

Being excited about anything coming from Pathfinder is really bad. You should just throw your expectations in the trash.

No that's just your fetish. You should have made an argument for it not to be your fetish, but your image leads me to believe otherwise.

Yeah, I can see why you wouldn't indulge these fucks.

I wonder how many of them were playing weeb characters from NOTjapan too?

I want to kill innocent people.

My only expectation is for it to be capable of serial killings. Since every character in the game is capable of this I think it'll go fine.

>I wonder how many of them were playing weeb characters from NOTjapan too?

Most of them? They were either weird furry-things or pale adorable waifs or brooding mysterious A&F models.

I think it gives you neat ability, like triggering people so fucking hard they get hit by Nightmares.

Why can't we ever have something normal in the OP, like the latest adventure, or a book cover, or an illustration from a PF book?

Because anyone up on Veeky Forums at fucking 4 AM is up to no goddamn good.

Because why have actual discussion when you can just shitpost

What's the secret to making good homebrewed spells?

Is the secret to just not try at all?

Finding one that's recruiting can be hard, user. Why not run one?

Every time I try to start a discussion it dies out three posts in or people just ignore it for being "fucking stupid."

You guys don't care about discussion, none of you do. All you want is to get angry.

>spells
>good
ecks dee

Just make maneuvers instead.

>Finding one that's recruiting can be hard, user. Why not run one?

Because I have no experience as a DM.

If I was competent at running a campaign I would be running one, user. That's why I'm asking to be a player, since I'm better at that than being a DM.

>or people just ignore it for being "fucking stupid."
Probably because it is

Is there some specific effect that's not published yet that's not worth spending limited wish on?

>maneuvers
>good
ecks dee

Try playing 5e.

How do you know you're not good at running one if you have no experience, though? No one has GMing experience to start with; you never know how good you are until you take the plunge!

>5e
>good
ecks dee

Try not playing D&D.

Aaand we arrived at GURPS GURPS GURPS GURPS GURPS GURPS in just three posts!

>playing
>good
ecks dee

Why not do something productive you sperg?