You set down for a game and one of your players whip these out

>You set down for a game and one of your players whip these out.

Do you let him use them?

>Do you let him use them?
that D20 is fine, but everything else?

FUCK NO!

Use polyhedral dice like a normal person you smug, hipster, son-of-a-bitch.

Dip them in salt water and that will make them roll true.

So long as they're a decent random number generator device sure why not.
At least nobody can mistake them for anyone else's unlike generic dice.

Yeah that d12 scroll seems...problematic

The only one I'd be skeptical of is the d12(I think) since it's more asymmetrical.

Otherwise, it's just a fancy d20 and barrel die for the others.

>do you prevent a player from using dice that he bought with the sole intention of using them to have fun with friends and show off his nice things, that I've never seen near me, are interesting to look at and don't fuck up the flow at all?

what kid of dick do you take me for?
i use generic dice because i'm poorshit, but if i had the chance to bring cool dice i'd use them in every opportunity i could

the d12 scepter thing does look like it could be hard to read, though, i might rule him out of using that one if it bogs things down

19 bucks (that's with shipping) on kickstarter right now

Is it okay if I use these?

I picked up the previous set of PolyHero dice, and I think they're pretty cool. They are an entirely pointless, utterly unnecessary novelty, but they still roll properly and I actually like how they look and feel. Then again, I'm the sort of guy who just collects dice anyway.

I think that D20 may well be worse, if not as bad, as the previous D12!

Is that a thing?

It actually works pretty well. You flip it like a coin to randomize which side it comes down on, and then it rolls around on that side before arriving at a result. Having used it quite a bit, they don't seem any more biased than standard dice.

Yeah. Sometimes players try to make loaded dice by baking them in the oven or they buy them online. You can dip the loaded dice in salt water to make them roll properly. I dip all my dice just to be safe.

Teetotums have been used for thousands of years. I think they are better than dice.

Salt water will make them float, if you move it around in the water and it keeps having the same number face up then the dice isn't fairly balanced.

well that doesn't sound like it 'fixes' a loaded dice, just alerts everyone that it is, in fact, loaded.

It sounds like this guy's not using the right concentration of salt water. I just give dice a quick dip, and they roll fairly without issue.

how?
how the fuck does 'dunk in salt water' fix a loaded dice? you explain that shit right the fuck now or I'm going to dismiss your claim as being superstitious mumbo-jumbo.

at least follows some scientific reasoning to make it believable, loaded dice work by having their weight redistributed such that it will favor a particular side, something that would become painfully obvious when suspended in liquid as the uneven weight will act like ballast.

How does that even work?

No no no, it's very common to dip dice in salt water. Most GM's do it, I believe. As for how it works, I think what you said is correct. The salt water is able to detect which side is unbalanced.

But it's not un-loading the dice, it will still favor oe result over all others, you just now know it will do that without having to run some statistical algorithm.

Granted it still solves the problem because now you can just toss the loaded dice into the trash, but it will not correct the dice so it rolls normally from then on. that's our problem! your claim that it will make it stop favoring one side is going into superstition. Like thinking that stuffing a $2.00 bill into your dice bag will make your dice magically not roll shit.

I would rather not throw dice away if it can be helped. That trick with the $2.00 bill sounds interesting, though.

I guess you could use the oven-trick to rebalance dice.
Put it in salt water to work out which side it's weighted towards, then use the oven-trick to weight it toward the other side, then re-test
Would require a good bit of trial and error though, and you may slag your dice

But that would probably evaporate the salt water off of the dice.

If I'm GMing for you in real life, that means I trust you to begin with.

THE SALT WATER DOESN'T FIX THE DICE YOU FUCKING FUCK

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make you mad.

>because now you can just toss the loaded dice into the trash,
Oh who am I kidding?
that should read: "-make a gesture of throwing it out but secretly pocketing it for your own sinister ends.-"

If I could, I would INSIST my players use these.

10/10, you actually had me there
Don't worry, I'm not salty

they look like sex toys

If a player manages a Piggy Back, I would let them use as a natural 20.

Smug
Hipster

Rules say for Pass the Pigs that if you get it clearly you're cheating and you lose the entire game.

This salt water trick is good for a single session, but to really "cure" crooked dice you need to take them to the ocean source.

Dice come from the ocean? I did not know that?

>the only way to get X is through cheating
>people who cheats is aiming for X, or else he wouldn't cheat
>give X to the cheater
You make him win the game, because he wanted to lose.

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Pretty new to tabletop here, and while these dice do really look cool, wouldn't they function like, worse than a normal dice?
Am I missing something here?

I own the previous set, and as part of the prior KS they did rolling test videos and showed some of the statistical analysis they did to ensure that the dice weren't overly biased, and they seemed pretty solid.

The quality of manufacture has to be higher to ensure they are balanced (if salt water is not forthcoming) but provided they are balanced, then they are in a way superior to dice. They have the advantage of being able to be spun like a top. The proper name for these is teetotums.

Neat!
I always thought novelty dice were really cool. But weren't sure that they would be ok to use.
One of my local shops had these really cool "Dwarven Dice" that were all carved in runes and were kind of big and had this sick colour scheme. Expensive as hell but really damn cool.

> Sit down for a game and notice these dice in front of an empty seat
> "Leopold's in the bathroom but he'll be back in a minute. Don't touch his dice."

What do?

Lick his ears, obviously.

Second dice isn't kosher, you'd need to re roll it.

Nope, when dice doesn't land flat you perform all the actions / locations on the (at least partially) up-facing sides. In order of player's choice.

That's why you put your dice in salt water instead of vinegar; just like pickles, it's to make them kosher.

So you just get REALLY all up in that guy's ear canal.
>Channel your inner Illithid

Stupid dice trick: If you have dice you think are shitty and don't have salt water handy, you can significantly reduce bias by rolling two dice, adding them, and rolling the total over if it exceeds the highest face value.
It's impractical and dumb, but it works, whether one die is loaded, the other one is, or even if both are loaded.

So touch and lick his ears then, but not necessarily in that order?

How can you make dice roll higher than their face value? You must teach us the secret. Do you dip them in vinegar?

If you mean these guys, their problem isn't statistical (to my knowledge)
The problems with these are the weight and material, which makes a very loud sound when rolled on hard surfaces and may leave scuffs or scratches
They are also excessively hard to read from any fort of distance because the numbers aren't coloured and those neat runes confuse the number's silhouette
Also they're expensive on top of that, like you said.

That's why I only roll them for Inspiration rolls or stabilization rolls.

Gotta get dat dramatic tension.

Let's see:

>rolling two dice
>adding them,
>rolling the total over if it exceeds the highest face value.

Okay, I worded that poorly. So you roll 2 d6s, get a 3 and a 5. Added together, that's 8, which is higher than the 6 which is the d6's maximum face value. You roll that over, 8-6=2. You rolled a 2 on a simulated unbiased d6.

I am about at the point where I'm going to make an rpg maker dice roller and put it on android.

It just seems like guys that play a bunch of games using dice would never be allowed to flat throw like that in Vegas.

Or just use anydice to make the rolls. However computer random vs physical random are two different things.

Another problem is that because they're metal they don't absorb the salt or the vinegar, so you can't know for sure if they will roll true.
They do absorb BBQ and ripple just fine tho.

That makes literally no sense.

But is there any way to get a roll higher than six on a d6? I've heard of ways to do it, but I've never found anything that works. Maybe dipping the dice in soap water?

why not just roll an unbiased dice to begin with
or put them in salt water

Look at that fucking goblet d12 and the Scroll d8.

>all these people keeping dumb jokes going
my bad
>this one guy keeping a dumb joke going

Well yeah, it doesn't operate on common sense, it operates on math. There was a thread about this months back, and some dude wrote a program to analyze it, which showed that it worked. Some math nerd confirmed the principle, too.


I like you. You're silly.

That's why it's a stupid dice trick. Might be useful if you're in the Kalahari and you only have a bag of shitty dice from like a Chessex pound'o'dice, and you can't get salt water for crazy reasons.
It's not practically useful in any normal situation, just a neat trick.

I'm interested in purchasing a quality set of dice, something interesting but functional, unique but minimal. I honestly don't know where to start, since I don't know how best to gauge dice quality and I don't know what's really out there, besides some poking around on Amazon and google.

What's are some cool dice sets to get? I currently have a Mage the Awakening d10 set, along with some generic translucent dice.

Is steel cool? Easy to maintain? Does it work?

Is there something that might have slick design that's cheaper or smarter?

Or is there something that does cost mad dosh, but is the true patrician's dice set with absolutely no substitute? Help a novice fa/tg/uy out.

The finest dice are ivory.

I read that as Leopard and let me tell you, it confused the hell out of me.

>In a desert
>Not able to get salt water

user, if you aren't sweating in the Kalahari it's because you're dead.

>Or is there something that does cost mad dosh, but is the true patrician's dice set with absolutely no substitute?

Game Science tried to position themselves as that, but it turns out that being as unbiased as possible is not really much better than the average die. And sharp edges are annoying.
Most dice are fine, just be wary of stuff like the aforementioned Chessex Pound'O'Dice, which is basically factory seconds. IE the dice that were a little irregular. Even then, they're probably mostly fine for anyone who's not running a casino.

>sweat
That's it! Eureka!

If you sweated enough to fill a bowl and float some dice in a timely enough manner to test them during a tabletop game, you'd be dead, too.

No you see ears is first so you need to ears his lick

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Absolutely none of the options on the left die would work with Eyes or Hair.

Underrated post

SPANK
EYES

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>kosher
>oh you.jpg

Dreidel! Dreidel! Dreidel!
I made it out of clay.
And when it's dry and ready,
Then dreidel I shall play!

>He doesn't spank his women's eyes

I'm getting lotus flashbacks.

Game Science or gtfo.

>lick eyes

Ugh. Bet he thinks you're supposed to stick it in down there too. Why can't he just talk dirty into her elbows like normal people?

By the games rules, piggyback is instant-loose. So make it 1

Wife and I bring these to every game. They suck shit though and the writing rubbed off so now we just have glow in the dark cubes.

Yes, but I make fun of him constantly for doing so.

The game science dice are pretty neat, because you can get them with no paint, just the grooves for the numbers, and you can do wax rubbing to make the numbers any colour you want.
I have a set of white GS dice where I made each one a different colour for new players to use, so when they ask which one the d12 is incandescent say the orange one

Yeah, these are specifically wizard dice, so enchantment is a concern. If they're ensorcelled, salt will kill the witchcraft. Dissolving it in water first just ensures a full coverage.

Sure, whatever. He'll still need a d3, d5, d7, d14, d16, d24 and d30 though.

>they are in a way superior to dice
But in a way that, for tabletop games, matters more, they're inferior. They take longer to roll, especially in pools.

One perk I have seen with them is that they are big enough that autists who have shit eyes cannot misread the numbers.

When he returns from the bathroom, I put a lime in Leopold's mouth and cut his head off. Only a vampire has a name like that,

Using a roll like that is less despicable than using "dice" in the singular.

Why not just stick a die in each armpit?

I have those. They're fine.

>Tell me your secrets ass

Japan has some serious repressed issues to work out.

Those are called dyslexics, user. Get your mental illnesses straight.

I saw these at a booth at Gencon 2 weeks ago, and they role like crap

We used the wrong number of nukes. Not sure if we guessed high or low, but we definitely settled on the wrong number.