>all this internet drama between regressive and lolbertarian MTG youtubers
Just out of curiosity, does anybody actually give a shit about this kind of stuff in your local gaming store?
Sure, there's a few people we laugh about for still having Bernie 2016 playmats. Someone even has a very detailed Hillary For Prison playmat, while I sport that picture of Trump on a tank.
But nobody is actively talking about politics. Nobody is crying censorship, or caring about the "10 white men" who made Conspiracy, or that there's a black planeswalker, or a transgender khan.
Ayden Roberts
Internet drama is mostly just that. Internet drama.
Strangely enough, people are even more vitriolic without anonymity.
Blake Cooper
>But nobody is actively talking about politics. Nobody is crying censorship, or caring about the "10 white men" who made Conspiracy, or that there's a black planeswalker, or a transgender khan.
That's because these people don't actually play the game, they're online activists that fling controversy from the safety of their apartment.
Lincoln Ramirez
The people who start drama are inevitably the people who benefit from it. Youtubers and shitty clickbait sites need hits, so they fabricate controversy out of whole cloth. It also makes them feel important. Professional victimhood, and reactionary lashing out at professional victimhood, are now both growing entertainment industries.
Josiah Brown
you know this drama is 100% manufactured bullshit when even reddit isn't talking about
Dominic Cook
>Magic needs better internal representation of people other than white males >As written by a self proclaimed "hipster" white male
Blake Hughes
Self flagellation is an age-old method of virtue signalling.
Aaron Evans
>when even reddit isn't talking about Jeff Hoogland tweeted about the MTG HQ drama today blasting him which started a flame war on the reddit. Funny enough this article was posted two days ago and all but two cuck downvoted to hell were saying how retarded this article was.
Cooper Gray
The best part is that Wizards is based out of Seattle, arguably one of the leftist cities of the west coast.
Ryan Stewart
>Just out of curiosity, does anybody actually give a shit about this kind of stuff in your local gaming store?
I don't use YouTube for any purpose, so I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to.
As far as the "politics" of MtG card designs - I'm all for inclusiveness? I don't see why anyone would have a problem with WotC focusing some card designs on appealing to any niche audience. It might be silly for the developers to parade it around for "progressiveness" points, but that's still a retarded thing to get upset about.
Brayden Cooper
>but that's still a retarded thing to get upset about. people want to play a card game, not tumblr politics
Adam Green
Every other human creature card is a black person or a girl. They get just as much rep as the white boogeyman.
Lucas Nelson
>not tumblr politics
But there aren't any politics in the game. You and your Tumblr boogeyman are the only ones carrying on about that shit.
Jace Sullivan
This article is awful and you should feel bad for exposing it to all of us.
Jason Murphy
>what we learned
as with most regressive shit stains, they learned nothing but how everything is bad.
Ian Miller
>But there aren't any politics in the game. You're clearly an idiot, missing the point that much.
John Richardson
Author really needs to check his privilege if he can spend all that time writing this article in an expensive New York apartment.
Caleb Ward
People at my shop come to play magic, if I wanted to discuss politics, national/international news, or the "black planeswalker", no body would care. I wouldn't care if Jace is gay, if his card is relevant and good in a competitive deck, I'll play it. Who gives a shit about lore.
Kayden Murphy
Vorthos players. :^)
Christian Harris
>(((Stein))) /pol/ is always right Praise KEK.
Kayden Fisher
>That's because these people don't actually play the game kek. probably went 0-4 at FNM and wrote that article
David Lewis
The best kind of players
Levi Bennett
>Who came really close to making day two of a Grand Prix on several occasions. Oh my
Austin Green
>10 white men developed and designed conspiracy >it's good
So... every set should be designed by 10 white men?
Easton Cruz
Funny you say that, last fnm was kinda awkward for a bit during the draft because two people were disscusing politics (the state of the minimum wage) and those of us who were there just to play cards all tried to tune it out. for bonus points the people arguing were a young black woman and a young Indian man.
Nathan Moore
>two people were disscusing politics (the state of the minimum wage) >a young black woman and a young Indian man
AETHER REVOLT CONFIRMED
Levi Jenkins
It's good because its a secondary product and therefore the game designers have more freedom to make interesting and complicated mechanics. a lot of recent sets have suffered from being toned down to be easy to explain to newbies.
Jacob Baker
>arguably
Logan Nelson
I'm sorry, but I'm being lead to believe we need to take the race and sex of the designers into account, and the verdict seems to be that we need more white men designing these sets.
God, if only more white men played magic, then we could really expand and improve the game.
Isaiah Gomez
Portland is full of homeless self-identified minority trannies. Seattle is full of hipster coffee drinkers with a $15/hr min wage.
It's hard to tell which is worse.
Elijah Gonzalez
the Indian guy was against raising it since he owned his own construction and landscaping bushiness and the black woman was for it, mostly on principal since she was a student. both made excellent points but id rather talk about cards when drafting.
Jack Butler
>conversation at our last FNM draft devolved into Brexit discussion
Jayden Cruz
Why do neckbeards care about this? Does this affect the speculator cabal's Euro sales?
Elijah Morales
It's been on the news a lot, so neckbeards like to bring it up in a desperate attempt to look informed on foreign affairs.
Gabriel Garcia
I find the whole brexit thing really interesting, but I don't really have friends I can talk to about it.
I have to actively stop myself from bringing it up at work because I know no one else there gives a shit since we're American blue collar workers.
Gabriel Price
>transgender khan. Mtg is retarded
Tyler Price
>It's a manufactured controversy episode Shit, nowadays there's nothing new on TV
Camden Ramirez
Dear America. Can you kill all SJW, 3rs wave feminist and neo-liberals? they're leaking into the rest of countries. Thank you, your neighbours, the rest of the world.
Ryan Sanders
Lol, all of europe is way to the left of the US, that's why your union is breaking apart and you're within 10 years of murdering each other like you've always done since the dawn of time.
Camden Walker
My LGS had to raise event prices as a result of the vote. It does have an effect.
Christian Myers
Your LGS is playing you for fucking fools user.
Jackson Mitchell
fucking lol
Blake Wilson
americans have no idea what europe is like.
they somehow imagine it is an entire continent of foppish parisian faggots sipping espresso and reading paperbacks in sidewalk cafes.
its like if Europeans genuinely believed all of america was like san fransisco
Levi Gomez
user, we're breaking apart because every country is turning into nationalist ultra conservative, that's literally the opposite of left.
Julian Howard
this is true.
Blake Nelson
nope the most you'll hear about internet drama at my LGS is the occasional 'triggered' joke, and people largely don't give a shit what feminists on the internet are saying unless it's to mock something exceptionally stupid
overall, there really aren't any discussions about anything on the far right or left - people there tend to talk more about games than anything. brexit was little more than a passing word on who voted what, for instance.
as far as conspiracy 2 goes, most of us who play magic are pretty excited for it - hell, one of my friends was going to drop magic outright before i told him about it, and we're likely going to set up a draft pretty much the moment it's out. emn on the other hand had all the impact of a damp noodle and the countertop box for it is still filled with boosters. ema was only really relevant or discussed because the boosters for that were priced at like, £11 instead of the usual ~£3
hahaha, you're getting fucking scammed, mate
Ryder White
I thought Europeans thought Americans were all gun toting cowboys with fat wives and ugly children.
Gavin Powell
as an outside observer, people frequently do think all of america is like NYC or texas
Andrew Jones
But it is in response to massive leftist policies. People see the failure the left has wrought in Europe and want to be successful again.
"Wet streets cause rain" and all that.
Kevin Morris
I'd say they're both half right.
It's like saying Australia is full of shitposters. you're not exactly wrong.
Gabriel Taylor
>My LGS had to raise event prices as a result of the vote. Your LGS is scamming you. I bet they raise FNM to £10 if Trump is elected. :^)
Benjamin Walker
Australia is full 3ft flying spiders
Ryder Young
You spout all that, but the guy is right. European politics are far more left than America, and Britain along with Germany are screaming back towards their old, warmongering ways the moment their far left politics were put to the test. We think the French and Italians sip expresso all day. The benefits of being American is that we can learn how your culture REALLY is, if we feel like it.
Parker Kelly
More like Cispiracy.
Luis Anderson
>murricans being in any position to call somebody 'warmongering' s h a r t i n m a r t
Isaac Sanchez
The best card site in Europe uses euros, so I've put off buying stuff from MKM during the crash the pound had after brexit
Joseph Gray
>started WW 1 and 2 >hasn't known peace on the continent since the Romans Fuck off, eurotrash. Americans don't deny being warmongers and openly love their guns and violence. At least we are honest.
Jaxson Young
>the crash that lasted literally a day before rebounding better than it was before Brexit
Juan Lopez
>Says the guy who in the span of 200 years had a conflict with literally every country in the world, even his own.
Jonathan Hernandez
Are you blaming someone for events they weren't apart of?
Detected the cuck who apologizes for slavery.
Hunter Barnes
>>started WW 1 and 2 does your LGS have a designated shitting aisle?
Robert Richardson
>Cis-piracy
"Arrgh matey, I'll be taking yer assigned gender as me own now!"
Gabriel Myers
To be honest, Europe hasn't been in with themselves in 70 years, and only fought in conflicts because USA told them to. So makes sense that the last generations consider themselves less beligerant than America, who has been in several conflicts just in the last decade.
People should be sad for slavery, but never apologize for something they didn't do. It's funny blacks forget they were also slavers, and far more inhumane than whities with their slaves.
David Perez
Trump is so going to win
Ethan Perez
>the Roman Empire >anything resembling peace and stability
With the possible exception of the reign of Augustus, choose one and only one.
Luke Fisher
>Pre Brexit > 1.40 > Now > 1.17
Camden Kelly
>Says the guy whose nation hand a weighty hand in literally every major problem faced by the world today Who turned the middle east into a shithole? Who created Israel? Who set up Mao to gain dominance? Where is Russia? Why is the entirety of Africa a hellhole? Where did Americans stem from? Europe is to blame for literally everything wrong in the world. Kill yourself, and take some of your countrymen with you.
Luke Sanders
>5 mins to read
What is this bullshit. My ebooks have been doing the same. 19 mins left in chapter. I hope I never reach a point in life where that is a useful feature.
Luke Nguyen
Remind me who started 2 world wars?
Josiah Gonzalez
>(((Stein)))
Jordan Gutierrez
>tfw still worth more than the dollar
some faggot fucking krauts who've still started less recent wars than you
Dominic Fisher
>kraut apologist
Thomas Kelly
I don't understand these people who obsess over politics. I'm a fascist and I literally never mention it in public unless someone explicitly asks my beliefs.
Daniel Perry
>Who turned the middle east into a shithole? USA in fact >Who created Israel? Also USA
Hunter Sanchez
>this thread has 72 replies
...boi
Aaron Cooper
>blaming Germany for ww1
Now who's historically ignorant?
Dominic Morris
Oooh, sorry! The correct answer was 'The United Kingdom,' but thanks for playing!
Wyatt Torres
Actually, son, European colonization is to blame for the first, and Israel was Britain's idea. Thanks for playing.
Andrew Allen
>UK >Europe Nice
Josiah Sullivan
>[there is] transgender khan There WAS a tranny khan. Get fucked. t. Kolaghan.
Andrew Price
>>Who created Israel? >Also USA While it is true that the USA was the deciding vote, it was the cucks in the EU who wanted it.
Henry Adams
Get with the times, Europe is either a whole country or several depending what fits our narrative, and if only one of those countries (even those who never were in the EU or never were fully in it) does something, you all do that something by association.
Kayden Torres
amerifats can't distinguish between countries that aren't their own
Leo Lopez
The UK is part of Europe, yes. Are you historically AND geographically ignorant?
Leo Young
What does "t." Mean?
Asher Gomez
Short for terveisin which is "regards" in Finnish, how you'd write at the end of an informal letter or email.
Thomas Jackson
I really couldn't give a shit what the gender or race of a card is. If they want to design cards for a wider audience I'm all for it. It doesn't change the actual gameplay and nobody actually gives a shit if your 2/3 flier is the correct shade of skin so seriously, who the fuck cares? Besides WotC for the diversity points of course.
Carter Peterson
Stupid Euro shit. Also this
Thomas Robinson
Mhmm.... no? UK is albion, like spain and italy are africa.
Only true europe is us, the aryan übermensch germanics.
Eli Wood
>We have to pander to groups of people that don't even buy the product we sell Man, in what times we live in.
Luke Hughes
I don't need an army. I need ten white men.
Wyatt Scott
>all of europe is way to the left of the US user's talking about left wing identity politics, not actually socialist economic policies. The US basically doesn't have the latter, which might actually be why it's the world leader in the former to compensate.
Dominic Johnson
I don't care this game has drawings of trasgenders, 404genders, agenders, furrygenders, phitogenders, 1/4Asian1/4Black1/4Caucasian1/4Xenomorph, etc, I don't care. My problem is when this cunts (including wotc who should be impartial) go with "it was about time [insert whatever you like] appeared in this your a fucking white male ridden game, you fucking racist, sexixt homophobic and transphobic pigs, make space, we're here to stay, deal with it" and the like.
Christopher Rogers
>>tfw still worth more than the dollar
Do you have any clue how currency works?
Joseph Ross
>a transgender khan.
There were some laughs about the fact I decided to play Alesha EDH while myself being trans, but it was good natured. Just the sort of thing where a few friends were like "Oh, of course you'd be playing that!", you know.
Carson Watson
Australian here, I've never seen a flying spider taller than two and a half feet, ergo you're full of shit.
Brody Wood
Go pick a fight with a Cassowary
Michael Ross
That sounds like exactly the sort of thing that a 3ft Flying Spider would post.
Chase Hall
>implying a 3ft flying spider would associate with 2.5ft spiderlets anyway
Kayden Morales
>Who came really close to making Day Two of a Grand Prix on multiple occasions How bad do you have to be that you don't even make it to day 2