Rules, Regulations and Moderation For Veeky Forums

Hiro said to make a thread here so that's what I'm going to do. Discuss how we can better Veeky Forums

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>Discuss how we can better Veeky Forums

Move CYOA threads to /qst/. Bring back Dwarf Fortress.

Yes for the first, no for the second.

Wow its actually not being deleted

Bring quests back. Fire Mod.

All of this.

Make /qst/ not a containment board and let relevant quests come back. Leave /qst/ up though. It was a good buffer when it was just extra space.

Potential fix for people who really love page 1 and can't use a catalog: Force quests to put quest in the title (Which most already do), then make it so that threads with quest in the title only bump to page 2. Might need some technical finagling, but that's what the Developer is for, right?

second

Mods only playing ball because Hiro is back

quests belong on /qst/

it's what the board is for

I don't care what happens to quests.
Would be fine with it either way.

CYOA should get its own board. World building board would be good.

The first one makes sense to me at least

More lewd elves

Either make it so anything with Quest in the subject can't be bumped to the first page or make /qst/ optional

Bring back quests, if not to all boards than just to Veeky Forums. Fire the mods. Add a sticky teaching people how to filter out quests, or include a built-in optional quest filter.

hiro isn't going to read this shit

hiro isn't going to read all of the posts of this or any other thread of ALL the boards

He especially isn't going to read ALL of the posts of ALL of the thread of ALL of the boards

Don't kid yourself

Can't we keep things this way and just have you leave?

Agreed.

This guy gets it

Third. I myself see no reason for them to be moves. I don't particularly care for them, but I thought they were nice for adding some traffic to the board.

I'd move CYOA threads to quest and allow a 'quest roundup' thread on Veeky Forums for those faggots to advertise their games and continue to pretend they are on a forum, not an anonymous chinese cartoon imageboard. I'd support regular bans for zero-content threads.

>Fire Mod.

We can all agree on this one, right folks?

Well it's not like you're going to get any real sort of consensus here anyway. This thread will just be where butthurt quest thread people gather

Listen to this guys, specially about firing that fucking mod.

Quests are fine on /qst/. I've yet to see an argument against it that wasn't just some particular attention whore bitching.

I've never seen an argument for it that wasn't an appeal to the mod's authority or a completely subjective value judgement.

Mod is playing Mr. Nice Guy now. Don't let him fucking fool you. He was deleting these threads nonstop today and handing out bans.

Oh fucking Christ yes

>inb4 mod deletes thread 8 more times because Hiro didn't say anything for 3 hours.

Indeed. Metathreads should always be banned.

This.

Re-welcome drawfagging. Make Veeky Forums a special case board and put some more references to /qst/ than would be usual, simply to encourage awareness AND keep them quarantined all in one stroke. CYOA threads = quest threads, so treat them accordingly. Re-instate the Commander Keen rule. Relax a bit on art threads and whatnot; allow spoilered "racy" content as long as it's fantasy-oriented and not outright porn. If you're browsing here at work, fuck you. Abuse gets the old rule re-instated. Allow conversation threads to go off-topic so long as they don't go full /pol/ and don't devolve into flamewars. Too many derailed threads that were interesting get deleted by butthurt OPs reporting their own threads for being shanghaied. Too fucking bad, OP. Deal with it.

Basically, loosen the shackles a little, but keep your hand on your gun, mods. Motherfuckers can't be trusted to follow the good spirit of the rules sometimes.

Oh, and replace mods/janitors that show repeated bias in pruning or deletions. That shit is stupid.

Prove it

Backing.

Though in seriousness, quests belong to Veeky Forums they started here nearly a decade ago.

Seems like it, once Hiro bunny-hops away the mods come back to play us like a damn fiddle.

this

fuck all you idiots that just want to complain and are using hiro's ignorance to bring meta threads to Veeky Forums

I'd support this.

I just want people to be reasonable, and I would like it if the /pol/ shitposting was more heavily moderated. It's genuinely terrible to deal with far more often than it's tolerable.

Also backing.

/qst/ is useful as a place for QM's to not clutter a board up with new ideas or first time attempts, it should stay around just for that, but its not a home for actual quests.

We already have Quest Generals on Veeky Forums.

I want mods who will purge /d/ tier threads.

This.
/qst/ is an unmitigated failure, and quests have been on Veeky Forums since their inception nearly a decade ago.

Not sure if the second can be done, but YES to the first.

The worst part about the switch is how butthurt everyone on /qst/ is about it. The constant bitching over irrelevant shit is unbelievable. Making a calm post about it gets me several rage filled (You)s every time.

Christ, how entitled can one faggot be?

None of the quester community wanted /qst/
Theres not enough people for a full on board.

No we don't, they get banned. They were getting banned even before /qst/ was mandatory. The fuck are you smoking?

If there was an option for "punch mod in balls" I'd go for that.

I'll bite. Forced IDs means people argue against other posters and personalities develop, the board's so slow even with the Veeky Forums immigrants it takes a permasaged thread DAYS to drop off the board, and it's unsustainable from the perspective that people who don't already know where it is and what it's about probably won't bother with it. On Veeky Forums anybody and everybody has experience playing in a group: they're just one interesting premise away from participating in a quest assuming they don't have a massive stick up their ass or something.

Veeky Forums was just better, dude. /qst/ isn't as bad as some people make it out to be, but Veeky Forums was almost... I dunno. Like it bred out weakness, and if you crashed and burned it covered up the evidence in a couple of hours tops. Looking at the bottom few pages of /qst/ is just sad.

By that logic, all of Veeky Forums belongs on /b/ because that's where it started more than a decade ago.

What about those who started on /qst/ from the get-go?

These

At the very least, let board-relevant ones back here.

I don't give a shit about maid waifu ninja quest or whatever, but if you're running a fucking Warhammer-based one then let it be on Veeky Forums.

/qst/ is not a failure it works fine

you people just don't like change

This guy gets it.

Quests took up barely any space on the board. They've been here since they were made, years ago.
If you're not going to accept /qst/ is a failed and dead board, at least let quests stay on Veeky Forums.

>none
fuck off liar
/qst/ works great, try it

For one, stop shitting on design threads.

Second, CYOA SHOULD be sent to /qst/.

Third, I actually agree with on the dorf fort. There is plenty of overlap between Veeky Forums related things and other hobbies like vidya. Allowing some more interpretation-heavy games like dorf fort wouldn't hurt the board.

If you were going to post in quest threads what's so fucking hard about just going to /qst/ at the same time? I like being able to see things on the front page that aren't general threads and quests. With the catalog you can't really see what direction a thread has taken
If there's one thing that should continue to stay the way it is I'd say it's this

But what about my quest, it started on /qst/ and I'm too scared of Veeky Forums to move in if I got the offer.

CYOA, Risk, and all the other forum game shit needs to fuck off to /qst/ to complete the purge. They can take the completely off-topic worldbuilding and storythread stuff with them. It's a containment board after all.

Next we need a solid crackdown on all the /v/ leakage. SS13, BFG Armada, DF, Warcraft, and Dawn of War are the worst offenders.

Contentless threads need to go too, Filename, BestOf, OMGCutePictures, StatMe, ThisIsHow, and pretty much anything that isn't actually traditional game discussion needs to go too.

No it doesn't. It's glitchy and threads that would have been popular elsewhere are slowed to a crawl (If even) on /qst/.

I don't like the idea of quests only bumping to page 2 because that still shuts out a lot of potential new blood, albeit not to the degree that /qst/ does. For example, I only got into MGNQ after seeing it on the frontpage for months.

I think a built-in, optional filter for "Quest" would work better. Opt-in rather than opt-out. And of course a permanent sticky explaining what quests are and how the filter works.

I did. It was shit so I went back to Veeky Forums, and it's still shit.

>/qst/ works great, try it

bullshit, You go to the board that fits is.

>you people
So you're saying you don't play in quests?
Because /qst/ was made on the whim of a random mod, at the behest of a vocal minority who'd bitched for years, taking in almost not criticism and ignoring all the QMs and questers who said it was retarded.

The "community", as it is, it too damn small. It's an extremely small number of people, enough that the /qst/ board is totally dead. There was no harm in allowing them on Veeky Forums and taking them off it did plenty of it.

Keep /qst/, if you must. But let quests stay on Veeky Forums

They're never going to delete /qst/, so I wouldn't worry.

Support

Looks like the ban happy mod is on /qst/ now. He deleted the thread Hiro wanted their in only 7 minutes

Honestly the /pol/ stuff goes away if you never reply to it.
They get bored eventually without their constant supplies of (you)s and move onto another thread.

I love how all you guys are batching about where you get to watch some usually bad writefag brutally rape canon to insert a schizophrenic/multiple personality disorder self-insert that makes no sense and ruins it.

Unless it's OC, it's usually bad.


This.
On topic and original quests should be allowed here, but shit like DragonBall quest belongs on

that's false

threads would be just as dead anywhere if there are dead there

/qst/ has created many, MANY more quests that would never have existed without /qst/

That's merely the nature of quest threads, user.

Fuck off. It wasn't a containment board until the mod started listening to people like you.
Also, those things are literally nothing like quests. CYOA is literally a solitaire experience, and RISK is just a board game.

The fact that you think worldbuilding and storythreads are off-topic speaks volumes as to your contributions to Veeky Forums.

Says someone ignorant of quests.

Hell, i wouldnt even care about quests being restricted to page 3 or more on here.

They will die without foot traffic from the boards they are related to.

>vocal minority
I'm sure that's very convenient to believe

This.

Veeky Forums needs a discerning but firm hand when it comes to moderation. The discerning part is important due to the nature of the board.

Also remove risk/civ/CYOA/evo threads to /qst/ and make it a general forum games board.

Agreed.

are you retarded?

>Bring quests back
Honestly the mod's not been absolutely awful, but there have been some odd decisions like nuking a few discussion threads and game creation threads. Could be worse, compared to no moderation whatsoever. I do not miss all those /pol/ threads intended to just start real world arguments.

I did. It was shit

This will fail without a site wide rule. We had quests for things that had nothing to do with Veeky Forums, because when someone made a thread on their relevant board, they were told to come here.

As a result, Veeky Forums suffered since half the board was quests nobody gave a shit about.

So, it should be that quests are allowed on every board, as long as it is relevant to the board at hand.

Second

Fragmenting the community wasn't necessary, it wasn't like they were pushing valuable threads off the board.

I'd endorse it of Veeky Forums was anywhere near capacity, but it really isn't, so having the quest threads here was a nice way to cross-pollinate and grow both the forum-gaming and sit down gaming communities.

MANY popular quests from other boards had drastic drops in posters.
But I don't think /qst/ needs to go. It just doesn't need to be a containment board.

I feel indifferent about quests, but I do enjoy the butthurt and tears of all the quest people and wish for this conflict to draw out for a bit longer.

Wait Dwarf Fortress is banned? I vaguely remember a thread just a while ago. It should definitely be allowed here.

Keep /qst/ but dont be militant about it. Encourage its use by making it USEFUL not a containment board. If people like it, they will use it. If you provide a useful service, youre doing it right.

Clean up the janitors. Seriously. Do your damn job and actually regulate their actions! Fucking hell, its not that hard to check up on them is it? Delegate it to someone who gives a shit if you cant, but get it done. Abuse of power is more toxic than anything the community can conjure up.

Just, stop being lazy about things. The heavy hand you have been using is leaving a fucking bruise.

>Forced IDs means people argue against other posters and personalities develop
The entire questing """community""" is this. The attitude of so many quest runners is "I, questfag name #1, condescend with my brilliance to these poor anons"

WE HAVE TRIED IT.
QMs, Questers, we all fucking tried it. And it was shit. The community is dead, the board is filled with /b/ tier drawquests, all of which died after 50 posts and no-one drops in from seeing a quest they care about and dropping into it from Veeky Forums.
And the board "features" only made it worse.

I don't read fanfic quests, but that's cool I guess.

You literally are a vocal minority, most of Veeky Forums doesn't care. Just use your fucking filters and ignore the under a dozen hidden threads.

Agreed. Look, /qst/ can stay because some folks seem to enjoy it. Good for them. But let quests come back to Veeky Forums if the QMs wish to run on Veeky Forums.

Also, fire the mod. He's trash.

MOD, READ THIS NOW. You're universally hated! Please, have the grace to resign! You fucking trash.

One of the big things about quests is that people got incredibly fucking lazy about it.

About stories, concepts, and even about getting some damn closure on the thing.

Low quality quests started building up and instead of "Something something space quest #8" we got "Harem anime in quest form #515" everywhere.

I'd argue /qst/ is a good thing because even if they're slower with less visitors, having good quests be visible amongst the shit allows people to get exposed to the idea that there's something better than just aimlessly wandering around for several dozen threads.

No quests on Veeky Forums. /qst/ is fine and Veeky Forums is better without quests choking it up.

Veeky Forums's been doing pretty well since the Quests were dumped. Don't think we need anything.

>Re-welcome drawfagging
There is a draw thread up RIGHT NOW

>The "community", as it is, it too damn small.

And yet they're flooding this thread with "agree". You're just looking for a scapegoat.

Imagine the butthurt tears of the anti-quest people.

Actually here, just go back a few pages
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Point1: agreed
Point2: yes and no. Video games related to Veeky Forums, like the dawn of war series, do and don't belong here for different reasons. Veeky Forums related discussion about the games should be far whereas talking about the game play and mechanics of the game should go to /v/ or/vg/.
Point 3:
>stoplikingwhatidontlike.jpg

But seriously, your third point makes you sound like a pretentious cunt. It's part of board culture, it has been, and it's not going away easy, nor should it.

>MOD, READ THIS NOW. You're universally hated! Please, have the grace to resign! You fucking trash.

No fuck this guy

Just Unironically

Kill Your Self

Hell the idea of restricting quests to page 2 or 3 would work fine for most boards. Since then you go looking in the catalog and thats where people can still find the things like quests that get them interested.

Quest haters dont have to look at them or have their content restricted, quests get their appropriet player bases. Everyone wins.

>Choking it up
This is a lie. It has always been a lie, and it always will be.

Stop spreading lies.

Quests have never choked up Veeky Forums, and considering that they peaked YEARS ago, they're not likely to in the future.

>mods are actually reading a thread instead of deleting it for the 10th time today
>you idiots are talking about quests instead of important issues, like the quality of posters, blatant shilling, and off-topic nonsense that fills most fast moving threads

I agree with this person