Hiro says the users should have discussions on our boards about the way they're moderated

Hiro says the users should have discussions on our boards about the way they're moderated.

Let's use this thread for discussing this issue.

Mods, please don't delete this thread. Your boss told us to make them.

Please just end yourself.

Make me the new mod.

Qualifications:
*Not the current mod.
*Browse Veeky Forums

As your first act could you please ban OP?

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Enforce the no god damn quests rule. That is all.

We've already had this discussion. How about you stop making these threads to get your precious quests back and An Hiro yourself before you run out of proxies.

I don't think quests should return and I like this mod. He's been pruning a lot of fetish bullshit and off topic stuff in the last week.

okay

>*Browse Veeky Forums
Overqualified.

Fkoff

>the main posters and participants in off topic metathreads are antiquestfags

God forbid we want to talk about board issues other than quests

Well all of these meta threads are being started by quest fags, after they whined to hiro and he told them to start a discussion about it. The threads are an attempt to make it seem like quests are more popular than they were to get them back in Veeky Forums, so anti questers are coming out in full force to make sure that doesn't happen

Hear, hear.

It seems almost 100% antiquestfags starting shit. Again.

Also, you guys should really decide if quests were super populous enough to need a board or so unpopular a new board is a waste.

The loss of quests sucks, but to change it would require 8 solid years of shitposting, and im not autistic enough for that.

(You)

This. New mod is the fumigation this board has needed for a long fucking time.

>Bitching about whining
Given the nature of anti-quest discussion, apparently whining is a-ok.

>my side could never be in the wrong!
It's quest fags making these threads. For the first time in years I've seen cool threads with a really narrow topic surviving for more than a day. I've seen a lot of shitty threads getting reposted by questers trying to false flag, but they've been getting pruned really quickly along with all the fetish bullshit. I can actually start a thread on a very specific topic and chat with around 4 to 5 people for a few days on it, really getting to the meat of the topic. I couldn't do that when quests were around. There WERE too many

I miss when we were excellent to each other and didnt require safespaces where we never had to see badwrongfun, or else we"d get triggered.
Probably rose tinted goggles.

Keep quests off Veeky Forums and on /qst/.
Make /qst/ better.
Crack down on fetishfags overrunning threads.

user, that happened when quests were around too. The board has never been so fast that dying in a day was a concern. Not even during the most populous quest times.

I always was able to talk about niche shit, user.
I think the problem might have been on your end.

That's not true, it happens to threads I'm in all the time. 3 people couldn't make a thread live if they left it alone for a bit, now they can

Except now the problem is gone. Getting rid of quests solved that issue

That is outright false, user.
Why are you lying? We have never been that fast.

>no
>yes
>no
>yes
>no, you're lying

It's not like either have evidence to the effect. I'm not lying, just because you were in your quest threads didn't mean there weren't other threads that you weren't in dying

Maybe the secret is docusing on talking in your niche thread instead of shitposting about quests.
Niches have consistantly been talked about when quests were here.

user, the problem is you chose not to enter niche threads, of which there were numerous. I did, and they consistantly lasted.

I'm only posting right now because I don't want these false flagging attempts to work. There's no problem with quests being on /qst/. People who sre interested in wuests go there, people who aren't don't. Veeky Forums has more traffic, but any of Veeky Forums that doesn't like quests doesn't go to /qst/, and any that does goes there. Coming back to Veeky Forums doesn't help anything, because anyone that isn't going to /qst/ isn't going to participate anyway. We're higher traffic, but most of that traffic isn't going into quests. It's falicious thinking otherwise

No, I was always going in them. They're the main reason I was here. Don't tell me what I do or what I think, we're anonymous here

user, why are you blaming everything on false flagging like a questfag would?

Additionally, you seem to not give a shit about all marketing knowledge or things like exposure.

If you were in them you would have known they generally last a while and get a fair bit of discussion.

>because anyone that isn't going to /qst/ isn't going to participate anyway.
But that's actively a lie. We've seen for a verifiable fact that ALL quests have gotten their participation rates cut by at least a third.

Oh please, as if Veeky Forums is that exposed. We're on Veeky Forums, the only boards that get exposure are /b/ /pol/ and /v/

Please keep quests off the board and go back to banning metathreads

See

"You're lying! You never had these things happen to you! We're the real majority! Everyone loves quests! It was only a few people who were really loud who hated them! Our side could never be wrong, I'm part of it!"
I'm done fighting with you guys, anytime I present our side you just say "No that's a lie". Quests were cancer, and I'm glad /qst/ is making them suffer

Please put quests back on Veeky Forums and go back to banning people who bitch about quests

Maybe you should stop fucking making up provably wrong facts then, fuckface.

>Stop pointing out when i am wrong!
>Stop pointing out i broke the rules for 8 years straight before i got my bottle!

I mean, we have an archive, at least make your claims match it

>It's another thread made by someone butthurt over quests being banned

GO BACK TO THE ABYSS!

They have another eight years worth of saved up shitposting to burn through.
I wonder if they are autistic enough to make good on it.

Anons that contribute greatly to thread should be made mods as they'll understand thread jokes and so not ban someone for talking about 'foreskin drums' when talking about slaaneshi shits

Basically hire mods/janitors that understand games and are up to date

Allow VPN posting because sometimes I'm using public wifi that sees the whole of Veeky Forums as a child pornogrpahy site, and I'm sure this applies to others

Make calling KnightAnon's fists iron warriors a bannable offence

>Mods that know Veeky Forums
I dont have enough laughing anime girls for your naieve post.

Can we ban everyone who complains about anime? They are flanderising themselves.

I don't actually care about quests so I don't keep track of this, but why don't the quests like having their own board? I would think that's a good thing.

Veeky Forums has decent moderation, unlike most other boards. The only change I might suggest is more proactive moderation of /pol/bait, which is becoming surprisingly frequent.


>quests

Whether or not you hate quests, they really do deserve their own board. And the new board has added tools to make questing more easy. Why would anyone complain about that?

Quests and forum games are a byprodyct of individual communities. They only thrive when they are a part of their native communities.

Hence why /a/ quests did badly here until they went back home, /m/ quests are still on /m/, and all quests on /qst/ had a massive population drop.

It is like expecting a community art exhibit to be in itself a fully functional community.

>Hence why /a/ quests did badly here until they went back home,
There aren't any on /a/.

/pol/ shit will probably just get worse and die down as election bullshit wraps up.

Anyway this thread is fucking retarded. There isn't any discussion happening here, just spamming bullshit. I'd rather hear about a fucking elf slave in a tree complaining about me killing too many people

One thing above all I want is to have the board police removed. I'm sick and tired of seeing people take it upon themselves to shit up any thread they consider badwrongfun and it feels like it's been happening more and more over the last weeks. The rule say to be excellent to each other and that rule is being violated again and again. I want people to just go back to just enjoying and contributing to threads they enjoy. Can we that?

I feel i already touched on this, but it seperates the community game from the community. Which members of said game and community might dislike.

You need to pay more attention.

Fucking this.

Ive seen them shit on writefags, drawfags, storytime, optimization, fucking everything.

Just be a decent human being holy shit.

This. If it were a general about just general Veeky Forums improvements it wouldn't be a big deal, but this thread keeps popping up as a shallow excuse for questfags (or more likely, the same questfag) to bitch and moan about how unfair life is now that they can't pollute Veeky Forums

And the hundreds of
>person did nothing wrong
>best primarch coming through
>hurr durr I speech ork
>can a sister love nurgle
threads had nothing to do with others falling off the board?

>/a/ quests did badly here until they went back home

I don't browse /a/, so I can't say whether or not this is true, but...

Why the fuck were there so many anime quests on Veeky Forums if quests were allowed on /a/?

Funny how the first people to broach the topic were antiquestfags.

We've got bigger fish to fry than quests. Namely, board police emboldened by quest removal to shitpost against everything, because they found out it works.

Because some mod decided all quests go on Veeky Forums.
And Veeky Forums is weeb as fuck on average regardless.

There is something people are forgetting, this quest mess was a unilateral power grab from the nazi mod and you dumb new fag fuckers went for it like the dumb edgy shits you are. I hate quest fags as well, Christ if everyone on /qst/ got nuked this world would be a better place, however, I refuse to acknowledge ANYTHING done by the nazi mod and you should too if you are legitimately part of this community.

Good for them, the larger community could not give less of a fuck as long as they don't have to see quests taking up discussion space

Because, despite their topic, the whole act of playing a quest is closest to Veeky Forums. Or also to Veeky Forums, but they would never allow this. I'm not pro-quest, mind you, but I can understand moot dumping them here for the lack of any better solution.

This.

This is the second coming of nazi mod and redditification.

The larger community doesnt give a shit about seeing quests.
Both questfags and antiquestfags are a fraction of a fraction of Veeky Forums. Claiming otherwise is tribalistic masturbation to your pet issue, pro or opposed.

No, I'm pretty sure these god awful threads were made specifically because some fags wanted quests back
>unilateral power grab from the nazi mod
Didn't school start already?

The big problem with this mess is the nazi mod did this shit and everything the nazi mod does is to destroy Veeky Forums that evil Furry fuck.

Antiquestfags have been false flagging and making metathreads for a decade.
Given how they were the first to talk about quests, they are probably behind tjis one. It is their MO.

Why don't the questfags just make a quest general on boards that they think would be interested in their game? The QM could post the gist of their quest premise, link to the appropriate thread on QST, and the generals can be used to answer questions or acclimate new players to the idea of questing.

Either that, or make /qst/ into /games/, like other people have said.

>le eternal summer Maymay because you know I am right and you are a Fucking moron

That has been discussed, and they are considering a quest recommendation thread on Veeky Forums after the shitstorm dies down.

>Didn't school start already?
I know that Amerifat teachers usually don't care what students do as long as they get paid. The others are ones who are teachers only for the power trip and thus even breathing gets you punished. So in both cases, they can do whatever since they're either being punished anyway or not at all.

Everyone is false flagging but meeee
Well when people talk about "power grabs" by getting rid of quests like it's fucking game of thrones I'm inclined to think they have the mind of a child

It is really worrying that this shit exactly mirrors the early days of nazimod

Sure we can get ever more meta about who cares about quests jackass, but that is the reason you fucks got exiled and will remain on /qst/ until you crybabies stop screaming about a nazimod who gave you months to make peace with Veeky Forums or leave for a different site.

Face it, if you can't come up with a reason quests are considered traditional games discussion you don't belong here.

To be honest, I feel that threads that are the same tired bullshit should be autosaged rather than pruned.

>These threads are made by falseflagging quest fags
>It couldnt possibly be the guys who have been falseflagging for a decade

Sorry user, but if you are going to claim someone is false flagging, i am going to think of the guys who have a decade of false flagging on their record

Just cause your a new fag doesn'the mean you have to show you are. This is EXACTLY like the early days of the nazi mod, you will see, you will all see, Veeky Forums will once again burn and you are all throwing coals into the fire.

Quest poster would never do that. He's a good boy

Actually the reason they got exiled was people shitposting for a decade and getting banned for it repeatedly.

And we both know that you will ignore any and all reasons quests might be traditional games, just like you ignored board rules for a decade

Well, antiquest poster does have a history of this shit.

I share your worries.
Overmoderation is here, and it cares more about shutting down content than removing /pol/

>but it seperates the community game from the community

This doesn't make any sense. I doubt the migration to a new board is going to cost you any of your regular participants.

As for some perceived overlapping culture, I don't think there is any. Veeky Forumsers have largely been filtering quest threads outright. The board was so densely populated with them that virtually nothing else had a chance to occupy the first page.

There is absolutely no drawback to quest threads being forced onto /qst/. Arguments to the contrary have been purely out of spite, and I'm not going to reply to them beyond this one post.

It has factually cost them a third of participants, so your entire premise is flawed.

Turns outva lot of quest traffic was from general Veeky Forums population. You know, guys running without filters because they dont care.

So here's what I've gathered from this thread:

Quests should both stay and go

There's too much moderation, but more moderation is needed to keep things out

Good discussion everyone. This metathread isn't entirely the kind of thing that lead to them being banned

It has been repeatedly shown that quest participants are every day Veeky Forums posters.

god forbid you ever visit another board on Veeky Forums

>The loss of quests sucks
Its really not a big deal, /quest/ people get their own board, so they can keep the threads up longer, while Veeky Forums has a cleaner archive and can have more non-quest threads up at a time.

Everybody wins and nobody loses, I don't see the problem. The only difference now is that there are two boards to browse for people that liked the quest threads

When the shoe was on the other foot, they shatpost for a decade about how hard it was to scroll past things they didnt like.

Going to another board is a monumental effort in comparison.

/qst/ existing is good for both parties though.
Now people don't have to hide every quest thread on Veeky Forums, and they no longer take up space in the catalogue. At the same time, instead of being outright banned from Veeky Forums, quest threads got an entire board to themselves, so now there can be more at a time, and they can stay alive longer than they would have on Veeky Forums

I don't see why anyone has a problem with this change, it just seems better for everyone overall

Well, quest people lose to a tune of at least 30% of their participants.
And neutrals lose yet another slice of variety.
And oldfags are having panic attacks about nazimods.

/qst/ is explicitly worse for questfags, if you would pay attention to the thread.

And it only benefits antiquestfags, as neutrals give no shits

>Well, quest people lose to a tune of at least 30% of their participants.
>And neutrals lose yet another slice of variety.

Sounds like those kinds of people only ever went into quest threads because they were really bored anyway. The people that actually really enjoyed them would be on /quest/

Seems to me like the mods are doing about as much as they can to make sure that anyone that cares enough about quest threads knows where to go to find them

Quantity =/= quality
Antiquestfags can't tell the difference, but 90% of the Quests on that board are utter shit, as if some proverbial reset button was hit. A good portion of threads there aren't even Quests, either (RISK, civs, evo, etc).
Sure, it doesn't matter to people who don't participate, but for people who actually like the medium are suffering from it.

user, many of the quests i enjoyed i only found because i was bored.

Something catching your eye in passing is very important.

They didnt even put up a banner.

Regardles, it turns out the passing Veeky Forumsgoer made up a huge portion if quest posters.

Well, what if instead of asking the mods to merge the boards, we asked for a feature in our settings to merge certain boards on an individual basis.

For example, you could merge Veeky Forums and /qst/ so that all of the threads appear in bump order.

I think it would be a neat feature, and it would completely solve this problem on Veeky Forums

Personally, I think it would be nice to be able to lurk /v/, /vr/, /co/, /ic/, Veeky Forums and /mu/ all at once like that. It'd be easier than having a tab open for all of them and trying to keep it organized.

Even a 3rd party extension like this would be cool, although it wouldn't solve the problem here since not enough people would use it