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I'd still like some advice on if anyone has the interest.

For the chummer developers: Any time I try to turn on books, no matter which books it is, chummer5 crashes while trying to close and reboot. No error message given. I'm using the most recent build as of a few days ago from Git.

Here's a few things I think could be fun:

A street kid who's in too deep with the local gangs
Anything involving Prototype Transhuman
A banshee
Boring office worker gets caught up with a runner team a la Black Lagoon.

The options in your post from last thread also seemed solid.

What are some of the more "unique" contacts you or your GM has brought to the game?

I actually was considering a infiltrator who was just the stuffer shack employee during a classic run of food fight. He gets into places disguised as a delivery boy.

My gm had chuckles as a DMPC face. He had a ungodly charisma, and that was it.
As in, he litterally urinated on himself when we first met him because combat started and the dude couldn't handle it. But he then convinced a guard that he was a potted plant through like 30 dice. Shit was crazy.

I would definitely play Stuffer Shack Quest.

Especially if it was just a slice-of-life about an ordinary Stuffer Shack employee who works the late shift and has to deal with Food Fight-esque shenanigans every week.

10/10 would read and play. Been pondering doing a side thing if I ever run SR again, for weeks when someone can't make it, doing a Night Shift sort of thing only as Stuffer Shack employees dealing with Sixth World shenanigans.

Oh I further forgot to mention, if it wasn;t obvious by the subtle hints, my gm was a pink mohawk kinda guy.

We then proceeded to meet a series of old runners who all chose names based on shakespeare characters, including a cyber assasin juliet and Hamlet who was a shameless flirt and leader of the Boston Triads. Which opperated out of panda express.
Incidentally Ed, Edd and Eddy running team. Y/N

Thats actually entirely unrelated to the quest idea I just thought it'd be cute.

>hit up game on roll20
>ask me to roll up character and send it in before they okay me
>make a human street sam, tell them I can change it as go to fit their group if out of line
>gm says no problem give me date they start
>sign in, all character art are anthropomorphic bunnies
>they are all surge bunnies, fucking each other in chat and logs

Welp, how has your weekend been /srg/?

Seem to have lost contact with the few people who were interested in a game due to having had to work essentially six days worth of double shifts (yay two jobs) in a row.

This particular Stuffer Shack just so happens to be on a block with the highest density of shadowrunners in the whole Sprawl.

Potential plot hooks include:
>Food Fight (duh)

>Johnson meet in the break room, gotta keep them happy without overhearing too much

>Your block is the site of an Urban Brawl match, and your boss didn't give you the day off

>Anti-Aztechnology demonstrators are picketing your store

>The store is the no-man's land between two warring gangs

>A shift in mana lines has the store become a strong magical nexus. The shop is overrun with mages who aren't buying anything

>An up-and-coming ork rapper is using your store as the set for his new music video

>Your slacker friend wants you to close up shop and play hockey on the roof

>A customer's credstick passes a rogue AI to your cash register. It doesn't want to leave.


Did you take screenshots?

It's now officially 11/10

All I would have gotten were small sections of chat, they did not even have a map besides a shadowrun banner.

I just ducked out and blocked all the players and gm.

Reminded me of the time I entered a Rogue Trader game and they were discussing child porn. Starting to give up hope in joining groups outside my friends.

Clerks + Shadowrun is just a winning combination, I think.

Ouch. I am once again eternally grateful that my friends provide more than enough gaming for me.

The best part is there's JUST enough room to round things out. Co-worker, manager, and couple regulars.

>Incidentally Ed, Edd and Eddy running team. Y/N
Absolutely Y.

We'll both find groups eventually mate. It's fucking a shame that they decided to use roll20 as "group F-list".

Well now I think I have enough runners concepts to run this. So shots will be given and if I fail at least I can say I tried.

Playing once a month for 4 hours at a time has pretty much drove me off of even wanting a irl session

Better give us a link here.

I do want an online group myself, if only because I want exposure to other groups and how they play Veeky Forums stuff.

See, I have ideas for a game, but it's getting people who don't seem to be trolling around and have reasonably decent concepts is the issue...and finding a day where I'm not fucked/fucking tired/already playing in games.

See I can't help you there, all of my concepts are fucking retarded.

Best of luck though

Just try user, it's not too hard.

Here's some more freebies:

>A shopper collapses in the snack aisle. They're a drake transforming for the first time

>A drunk troll is harassing people in your parking lot

>A bunch of upper-class teens decide your store is just dangerous enough to be a cool hangout. They're driving away your regulars.

>A crazy-popular NERPS line is all the rage this holiday season. A shipping delay means your store is the last place in the Sprawl with them in stock. Chaos ensues.

Well I can do this two ways, i can post what i have now and wing it super fast, or i can actually have shit prepared for when you pick a character.

Don't rush yourself. Just make sure to drop in and let us know when you get started.

I just meant when you do run it, omae. Do what you gotta do to make it fun for both you and the others.

It'll have been easier if I actually RAN shadowrun before. I am constantly afraid I'll get some bit of lore wrong, get called out on it, then get stabbed by Harlequinn. People don't even like that guy it would be the ultimate shame.

Naah. Only the gronards would be that much of a pain. You seem to have a decent idea of what the hell is going on, if those green text ideas were yours.

Jokes on you they weren't I just suggested the ed edd and eddy guy.

I'm a wild card you have no idea how shitty my ideas are.

>if those green text ideas were yours

That's a negative. The greentext was suggestions from me to the quest runner, who is a different individual.

In fact I'm going to just namefag in this thread so people know who's sinking this ship.

For the record I'm also

I'm always intrigued by mundane street level campaigns. Sail that ship on, omae. Sail it straight to the center of the earth on wings of soykaf and cram.
Believe in me who believes in you.

Man you guys are going to be so salty if the stuffer shack guy isn't actually voted in.

>YOU are not a remote operated system. YOUare not a dogbrain. YOUare a person.
YOU have your perspective wrong, chummer. Is the weapon remote or manual controlled, from the perspective of you & your two hands?

Best campaigns are mundane street level that slowly evolve into bigger runs. Low level stuff can allow nice and steady character building for players and GM.

For example my now ended New York campaign started with a trio of small runs.
First was to sabotage a power reactor for more experienced teams run and to achieve that they took a small task from local mafia to rough one store owner to get enough nuyen to buy necessary equipment for the run. Power reactor run went swimmingly thanks to new equipment. Last task was simple overwatch for the experienced team as they feared their Johnson was trying to backstab them.

All in all they gor their Johnsons trust by helping the more experienced team. Gained Mafia contact that proved useful in future. And the more experienced team cooperated with them in the future after my players bailed them out from their Johnson meeting gone awry.

And their next runs were quite standard, but things do snowball when plot starts to catch up.

AGI when used in a "jumped into a drone" sense is purely the side of it that deals with your coordination

The question was for manual, which is definitely YOU, if you are IN the machine and moving it the machine moves as fast as you can mash buttons on your RCC, its just your doing that the same way a decker uses the buttons on a cyber deck.

Are you still crying about this? Oh no, boohoo, now you can't dump every physical stat as a decker! How horrible!!!! Deal with it.

Actually CAN'T you if you dont go rigger? I mean isn't there a decker style that is just Hikkimori? Like Two Times?

Last thread a nomad/micro go-gang campaign concept was bandied-about (see pic related). How would you recommend starting the campaign off/set up the players meeting up?

Stuffer Shack sells gasoline now. But as go gangers you dont pay for shit, so you have to rob a discount gas station burger king just as Vory hit the place.

Ideally I think you'd want character creation (at least the concepts, no need for all the crunch) to be done as a group so you could have the characters built with some shared history.

I'd want the game to start with all the characters already being a go-gang together.

I mean STREET, like a group of kids trying to scrape together a shack to live in, get clean water, and keep the air filter and heater running at night. Like the Little Rascals, but Uh Huh keeps pissing off the go gang down the street and Stymie's got an old pediatric implant that's long overdue for a replacement.

Go gangs live in highways i think you just mean halloweeners here. Go gangers are too violent to be in high population areas for very long they make enemies too quickly

You can't do manual through rigging. Full stop. Manual relates to your own two hands, not thinking through a control rig.

... Sorry, guess you tried? Could not have read that more wrong, mate.

The tough elementary school down the street, then.

So a more automotive-based Food-Fight. Neat.
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I should clarify: I meant a campaign in which the characters are a team of runners who all have vehicles- my gimped bike-knight last thread being one of them. They wouldn't actually be a go-gang, just more vehicle-oriented runners.

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See, this shit got confused. At some point someone was bitching about using AGI while actually rigging.

AGI here then means manual dexterity blah blah blah coordination blah blah.

Thats a bit less black hat.

Well extractions will be a go to. Nothing like having your sam cut open a armored truck on the rooftop, enter it, and forcibly throw a scientist into your side car as your ride is slaved to your riggers RCC.

It's a shitty, confusing subject, apparently, with wrong or incomplete answers in the easily found sections.

A mysterious Johnson has need for a crack team to raid a convoy traveling between Seattle and Portland. He (or a fixer) calls up the characters individually, knowing each of them has a thing for their ride and can handle a vehicular shadowrun.

After they complete the job, they quickly get another offer for a Smokey and the Bandit style long-haul smuggling run across the NAN. This Johnson mentions that they come highly recommended from the last Johnson.

After that mission, they've earned a reputation for handling those sorts of jobs, and further missions follow.

Nice. Could potentially feed into nomadic shenanigans. Fixer could contact them via the Matrix and inform them on local jobs.
It turns out that its not just bootleg booze their smuggling, but also a few kilos of novacoke

The riders then realize that coincidentally their rigs combine into a giant robot and that only they can save UCAS from the evils of Baron Bug and his insect army.

At least that's how the trid went.

Is there a place for me to get shadowrun returns portraits? I need images for my quest.

If you've got the game installed, the portraits are in
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Shadowrun Returns\Shadowrun_Data\StreamingAssets\ContentPacks\seattle\art\portraits

There are other portraits in other content packs, as well as in the dragonfall and hong kong folders.

Thank you, that makes my job easier.

New topic. Lets talk Traditions, do people like how they are mostly fluff based now with the elements taking up the raw crunch? How about how mages can now have spirits like shamans do?

And most importantly, what is YOUR tradition?

Having Traditions be mostly fluff certainly makes things easier to run, so I think that's a plus.

I'm cool with Mentor spirits for non-shamans as well - especially for adepts.

My current player character is a Raven adept, half because I like the fluff and half because getting Traceless Walk for free is totally sweet. Tradition is Chaos Magic, since she's pretty much self-taught.

The last mage I made was a Voodoo shaman, because oh god fire spirit possessions on manikins is hilarious gold.

I had an Aztec caster once but I've also completely butchered how it works in my mind because I have no idea what I'm doing.

I think mentor spirits should come on a case-by-case basis.
Hermetic mages and any tradition based off a major world religion (except perhaps Hinduism) shouldn't be able to get totems.
Most of the others are fine.

The reason for this is that in the above cases, the concept of a mentor spirit just doesn't make sense. Hermetic mages are very arrogant and prideful towards spirits, and wouldn't really identify with one on the deep level required. For the religions, especially the monotheistic ones, the inspiration is coming from a specific divine source. Taking inspiration or power from some spirit animal is tantamount to heresy.

If a player with a religious tradition really really wanted one, I wouldn't be wholly averse to homebrewing a different totem, (along the lines of the Great Mother or somesuch) but it'd need to be tailored for that specific faith. Mages are pretty much a no-go, though.

So, can I mount a flash pack to my gun to blind my targets? Would the penalties to attack only apply to attacking me in that case?

Flash Paks are generally omnidirectional, unless you activate wireless, no? Might be able to do something different with your GM.

Idk, but you could mount a fleshpack, a custom designed squirt gun shaped as a dick, unto the underbarrelslot of your gun and blind your foes with its shots.

>unless you activate wireless
How does that work..?

Couldn't I just mount some sort of simple funnel around it, only allowing it to shine forward? Sounds doable.

Can you explain how this works?

A totem doesn't HAVE to be the animal/concept it's named after.

Just because you have a spirit of bear doesn't mean you have to have a spirit bear following a guy around. It can totally just be an angel or something instead.

Fluff mate. Fluff

RAW.

Random anons are not your GM. If you don't like RAW, speak with your GM.

Hell, it even says this in the description for mentor spirits.

I'm looking into SURGE III since you can apparently end up being a cat person, but looking through metagenic qualities, I haven't seen anything that would result in something like cat ears. Is it just a given appearance thing from a quality like Broadened Auditory Spectrum or Keen Eared?

I meant how does it work in a non-meta sense

Ok, here goes - stop being a lazy fuck & read the book.

Yes

I don't feel like downloading a book to read one line you anus

Lazy, just lazy. True Shadowrunner has all splatbooks in neat folder next to latest Chummer

>Downloading the new Chummer everytime it is updated
Who do you think I am someone who wants to replace their chummer files once a day

You need to stay at the peak of the information old timer.

Information age? More like shit age.

The issue is more likely to be related to another option that's not being set correctly. Um. Check your default character sheet is set properly, that used to cause a bunch of problems.

5th ed saw the introduction of DRM to most devices. They have features turned off unless you log in.

DRM implanted grenades.

No one thought that sounded extremely stupid?

>5th ed saw the introduction of DRM
I know anons like joking about this, but if you keep it up, eventually someone will fail to see it's BS & take it seriously.

Shit

Muh combat hacking, essentially. Wireless was too practical and high tech, and everyone knows that REAL cyberpunk has cable spaghetti.

The other thing was that it was done to nerf a lot of equipment. Using a smart gun with any sort of meaningful improvement in combat effectiveness now requires broadcasting your location via wireless. But at least you get those windage calculations from the satellite, even if you are deep underground. If you don't, the smart link only improves you if you're already an expert. Same with your extendable baton. The signal goes from you, to AOL, to the baton in your hand.

Wireless bonuses are self-satirising at this point.

Would it be odd for an ambitious, up and coming fixer to actively seek out and recruit promising runners before their competition gets to them instead of just waiting for the potential recruits to approach them? Seems like it would be smarter to do legwork in that sort of position than just sit around hoping they come to you.

That's pretty much Fixer 101, dude. They're like Talent Agents. They connect the talent with useful contacts, but they also hunt the future talent down and give the talent their business cards.

Bodyguard job regarding a bratty executive's on in an amusement park.

Stealing a prized recipe collection from a novahot trideo chef (not gordon ramsay) by becoming candidates in his newest show.

Congratulations you have your fixer character concept.

*Slides card into girl's hand* How would you like to be a shadowrunner IDOL?

That could be a good fixer concept if you managed to write around the fact that there's a lot of risk and preparatory work involved in it that would make it unviable in the long run, at least if you want to raise your runners one by one.
For example a fixer who's come to big money and has a lot of influence - but he's grown to hate shadowrunners over the years, seeing them as posers and selfish tryhards who need a wake-up call. Using a mix of his own money, corporate contacts and shadowrunner contacts, he funnels wannabes and guaranteed showoffs into the community to undermine the areas that his corp contacts tell him to, as well as getting revenge for being bossed around and having to handle irrational, violent and unpredictable runners for decades.
Most of the time, he just sits in his apartment and watches the local screaming sensational trid channel, to see when one of his "masterworks" that he's pumped full of parodic ideas and supplied with discounted 'ware and gear makes a bloody mess on camera.

It did this to me the first time I ran the program, when it asks you to look over options. Default sheet is SR5, and I don't choose any of the German books.

At worst I'll just delete and reinstall and I'll figure it out.

>shadowrunner IDOL

Damn, I kinda want to play that character now. What qualities would you give to a character like that? Distinctive Style obviously, but what else? Electronic Witness/Day Job combo? Fame? Would you make them a face? Street Sam? I doubt an idol would go down the decker/rigger route, though magic would definitely be another possibility.

I want you to remenber The Nightingales from shadowrun storytime.

Los Angelos Runners like in hollywood are essentially celebrities. This doesnt make them any less tougher, in fact the fact that you can blow up a ares base and walk into their recording booth to film a commercial for a Roadmaster the next day shows serious balls.

I'd do a combination of one of the positive hearing qualities (Keen-eared, Broadened Spectrum, or Biosonar) and a lightly refluffed negative like Unusual Hair. For my catgirl changeling I actually refluffed Mood Hair to represent her ears giving away her emotional state.

Can anyone please explain to me how Universal Mirror Material works to your benefit? Does it do anything helpful if you've got a Chameleon Suit?

Is it better to pick up Adept Ways later, or during chargen?

Only way I could fix it was by going into the options file and manually adding the books I wanted into the code. I don't know why this is happening, but it works.

During Chargen, paying 30 Karma for an Adept Way during Career mode is a fucking daunting task.

I read in /srg/ that the RAI according to the writer is that its intended for you to be able to buy an Adept Way during Career Mode for 15 Karma, but take that with a grain of salt.

You mean 40 karma.

Huh well I stand corrected. I was thinking they were 15 Karma (and 10 for Burnout).