In the age of antiquity...

Deepest lore.

>Kynaios and Tiro, joined by their love for one another and for freedom
>for freedom
u/w/r, check
>for one another
green gayest color confirmed

>so triggered that freedom of creativity is tagged as "pandering"

I can't be mad, the Greeks were notorious boyfuckers.

Freedom in MTG is red/green. W/U is law and order, or blind dogmatism.
So it's more RG, check, gayness? Well WU is the color of Gideon and Jace who are back home expanding his Theros into Jace's city of guilds while the girls adventure, so WU being the gay color combo confirmed

Two people in love and that fought for the greater good.

WU people have have relationships, you know

I feel bad because you actually typed out a reasoned flavor-specific correction, but I was just shitposting, because this thread is bullshit /pol/bait

Eh, half of my post was shitposting itself, just a different shade of it.

Yup, like Gideon and Jace.

Actually, the greek didn't really like homosexuals, it's just that they had a different idea of that.

For them, the "bottom" guy was the only one gay, and the active is still straight. They even had a slur for the bottom guy.

See, this? This is a good way to portray a gay character. Two guys, looking reasonable for their setting and roles, that do stuff completely unrelated to the fact that they are gay. Not a single word about them being gay, because you don't fucking need to EXTRA DOUBLE REPRESENTATION STATE something that is said anyway, "their love for one another" is sufficient. You don't have to write about the woes of gay suppression or the amazing perks of being a cockgarbler.
Hell, they might not even BE especially into dudes, they just love each other despite the cocks,

That's how you should do this and write any type of romance anyway,

Yeah, but Theros is an incredibly shitty representation of Ancient Greece and Mythology in the first place and they have admitted as much...

I don't care about gay couples in magic but I care about the fact that they stopped portraying violence in the artwork.

Can't have violence against (human) females so better do none at all. Equality my ass.

ITT: Nerds trying hard to find a meaning in their lives by being angry at inconsequential shit.

Nigga what? This is just from the Commander 2016 product and it's not done being spoiled yet. I can find plenty of violence both magical and not in Kaladesh alone, and it's supposed to be the "Le happy inventor's fair" set.

Lasting social arrangements don't exist in a void my kind friend. Context is important and shouldn't be stripped away.

Here's one from Kaladesh, plus there's one that a POV shot of getting mauled by some kind of tigerbear thing.

It took me two minutes to find "Eliminate the Competition", so you are full of shit.
Also "If we can't show violence against women, we won't show it against men either" is pretty much the definition of equality.

>As an oracle of Athreos, the god of passage, Ravos knew the fleeting nature of life. Even so, watching his beloved perish in battle was too much for Ravos to bear, and he struck a deal with the god. Ravos swore to help Athreos guide the dead to the Underworld in exchange for seeing his dead lover once each year. In the interim, Ravos plots his rescue and secretly defies Athreos by escorting his wards back to the land of the living.

That context isn't really important for that story, though. What's important is that they did stuff and that people saw them as their guardians. That they were lovers is more of an interesting sidenote.

Wow this is terrible, 5 mana + X creatures to destroy, not even sacrifice?

Black is very token happy in Innistrad/Kaladesh. You're most likely sacking a handful of 1/1s or 2/2 zombies to blow up a fuckton of their important shit and running over the rest.

>And then the Lich came and fucked up everyone

>Good Ending

>In the interim, Ravos plots her rescue and secretly defies Athreos by escorting his wards back to the land of the living.
Don't think I didn't see that edit faggot. Ravos has a girl.
>Looks like a young "Raid my asshole" type of Greek
>Has a dead girlfriend and is spiting one of the gods of the death

The Greeks thought the only true form of platonic, intellectual love was between two very good male friends

How the fuck did ANYONE forget that the the people who founded their fucking city and killed a god-king were actually pretty swell guys rather than reviled rulers?

Then again, this is the Greek setting. Herodotus-tier historians makes sense

I'm still not sure how this is an accident by any means

It's an """"Accident""""
You were hanging out with him, watching him invent stuff, maybe in his lab, and a machine went horribly wrong and stabbed through your hand and his arm, so he couldn't finish his invention by the time of the fair.

Terrible, terrible tragedy.

The real inequality is that in all of these cards it's always men as the victim and never women.

Of the top of my head

...

would you understand why someone might consider a small cut and a drawn bow to be slightly - so very slightly - less graphically violent than a dude getting disembowled?

Didn't say that at all though, you were whining that women were never the victim in cards, and I provided examples where that's wrong.

So, goalpost moving.

Plus magic gets that gruesome once in a full moon, so finding other examples that bloody of either sex is going to be rare.

Her wings are also pretty cut up, but the truth is: Violence against men is usually depicted more graphic. Yes, that's inequality and it's stupid, but it has been this way since for-fucking-ever and is not a result of feminism or SJW.

Off the top of my head
Stab Wound
Grip of Desolation
The eldrazi spell from Eldritch moon where all the walkers are getting tentacle raped
Triumph of Ferocity (jesus fuck, AR was 4 years ago)
Anguished Unmaking
Deadlock Trap
The spell from Kaladesh where they're detaining Pia

Yeah, I'm sure Grim Flayer just stole that dainty glove, he's only called a flayer because he skins animals, definitely not people.

It's because there's more men in media and such, so they can be cut up more. When there's like 15 men and 5 women, guess who's more likely to get gored, even without feminism.

I think that most men think this even today.

> less graphically violent

I'll bite anyway.

> What is Doom Blade ?
Someone who get cut in half by a painfully-looking black bolt.

> What is Act of Treason (M12 edition) ?
Someone who's forced to turn on her allie.
> What is Cloistered Youth ?
A child who get possessed.

> What is Mirri the Cursed ?
If I need to explain this one, son, I'm afraid you are dumb.

It's because that's the way the world works, most men are naturally uncomfortable with seeing a woman get hurt.
Violent imagery of males iis emotive to most young men.

Well you're a raging faggot if you play them as your commander

they may be lorewise gay but that doesn't make the person playing them as gay as the guy who runs Zur, Narset, or Oloro

Sorry, I thought it was implied. When I said "these cards" I meant "cards with violence." I'm sorry if that wasn't as obvious as I hoped.

>doomblade
clean and bloodless

>the others
Do I need to explain the difference between misfortune and violence to you, user?

After the Triumph of Ferocity scandal, WotC is just covering their asses.

Look to the artist's left. Hanging up.

Ok for some reason it won't accept a URL as an image anymore. Fuck it, go look up Blood Artist. Dead girl strung upside down with blood pouring from her throat into a bowl.

>I meant "cards with violence"
And a girl with a shank wound/an angel getting her wings garrote wired isn't violence?

>2/8
THAT ASS

Well, they're certainly not the kind of card that you'd look at and think "that's a violent card."

The angel one most definitely is. Just because it's not Wolfenstein-tier bloody as fuck doesn't mean it's not a violent picture

Weren't the Greeks actually deeply conflicted about the homo lifestyle though? You could enjoy the occasional friendly buttsex but you were still expected to marry a woman and procreate. "Full-time" gays were shunned.

Hmn. Let me try and explain this in another way.

Every once in a while, I babysit my 5-year-old cousin, and when I do, he likes looking through a couple of my cards. He likes looking at the pictures and such. He's at that age where little boys are crazy about pokemon cards, ya know?

If, while looking through my cards, he happened to see Clip Wings, I wouldn't feel guilty. I cannot say the same about Victim of Night.

You understand what I'm trying to say?

All men, Women can't suffer from violence in the new Magic PC world.

Yes, that you think adding a huge spray of blood makes a picture more violent than someone getting a limb torn off because it's a fantasy limb because people don't really have wings.

It's "Showing people with guns in cartoons are bad, so let's make them laser guns instead" tier logic.

See and any card listed by And that's the recent stuff

All cards older than Kaladesh. From now on Women are immune to violence because it's mean.

EQUALITY YAY. SLAAY QUEEN. YAAAAS.

lol, reminds of one user many threads ago who thought he was a swell guy tracking down a missing damsel

>Th-They're older than Kaladesh
>Two of them are literally from the set RGHT BEFORE Kaladesh.
That is some dynamic cherry picking shitposter-senpai

The logic isn't flawed tho.

Hitting a dude with a blunt weapon and teeth flying everywhere is just as violent as cutting a dude's head of with a sword and blood spurting out. However the second one FEELS more violent.

This disgusting violence against Women needs to be reigned in. Fucking Neckbeard Virgin Needs with their rape fantasies.

Disgusting.

YAAAS QUEEEN SLAY!!!!

This tells more about you than it does about violence in magic.

>no one has posted the card that started it all

I will never uderstand how people see rape in this.
>He's going to punch her in the face.
>She's ready to fight back
>She even won the fight in the lore.

Kinda want to see a Mono-B Agnomakhos card.

Because Liliana is a woman and violence against women is VERBOTEN

Not matter how hardcore she curses your ass into oblivion

It got distorted as time went on.
Originally people saw domestic abuse, because when big bad abusive husband shows up, grabbing her by the neck and pushing her down against the counter is just how wife beaters do it.
Though I feel bad for the artist who was supposed to make art for a card called "Triumph of Ferocity" where a giga nigga sized man was beating a woman. There was no way for that one to come out looking good.

That card is a literal rape magnet

His next move will be "I was just pretending to be retarded!"

Well I know that artist. Brb, got to find that picture.

hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/aka6/463868/3-mana
Found it.

butt stuff was for the kids, frotting was for the adults

Aside from the homo theme, i really like the card's art. Colorful.
I like most of Willian Murai's Theros' arts, the guy sure can draw awesome chins and jawlines.

>i really like the card's art. Colorful

Other than the incongruous dark blotch of brown near the center, I agree.

Four-color siege mastodon with upside.
Interesting card.

Well, not everyone can be as colorful as the vedalken, I guess.

Can someone explain me why the statues are in different possition?

Get your shitty /tv/ meme outta here. It sucks there and it doesn't even makes sense on this board

One is viewing them from the front, the other is from the back.

Also different artists

Aren't they just seen from opposite angles?
On guardians of meletis we're facing them while on Kynaios and Tiro we're watching their backs.

there is nothing wrong with them check your eyes

There's, check your eyes.

Are you sure?

One interesting thing. If they are benevolent rulers, the people will build their statues when they are either old or dead. History shows that only tyrants build their own statues when they are still active, alive and kicking.

Then again, i'm reading too much into this. The artist most probably got ordered to include the statues in the art.

Probably, just to say "These are the guys who the inspired the statues"
Then again, ancient logic might say "Build us some statues instead of pay taxes"
It's how Egypt got their pyramids made

You're right, the shields have been switched.

It only costs 3 mana you know.

It's mainly to reference the other card.

Actually, buttstuff was discouraged for everyone, and frottage, particularly thigh sex, was only permissible between an adult and a much younger male. Adult/Adult relationships were heavily discouraged and even penalized/criminalized.

OH SHIT THE ARTIST FUCKED UP

WRONG SHIELDS MOTHERFUCKER, LEARN TO PERSPECTIVE