What would happen if the Imperium found a STC? Even if it had half the complete data?

That might be the case now, but I remember reading in the 4th ed rulebook that no STCs had been found.

No complete STC has been found. Occasionally members of the AdMech claim to have found fragments. Some f these fragments are real, by the vast majority are just new designs passed off as STC.

It's a self improving machine! We need to destroy it!

>Throw everything at it to secure it
>Get it, probably
>Use STC to make more STCs
>win

I thought Horus found a whole one before he purged his legion but after he decided to rebel against dad. The human civilization that had it was really friendly too. And then he declared war on them.

Well if you're not going to take this seriously...

No COMPLETE ones have ever been found.

They will occasionally find fragments like those two chaps that found the one that made a certain knife. They got given a moon or something.

Or the one that made Men of Iron. But that was tainted by Chaos and was thus destroyed by Gaunt et al.

You underestimate this.

To the AdMech, an intact STC is almost literally worth the entire Galaxy and everything in it.

Imperium? It's secretly transported to Terra and the non Mars faction use it to finally break the mechanicus monopoly on technology.

Mars? They used to gain a massive boost on their influence and without the Emperor around they'll push their agenda almost unopposed.

On /b/ you would recieve a collective internet blowjob for this get. Such a waste.

If the Imperium ever found an intact STC, it would literally be game-over for every non-Imperium faction. Period. End of story.

An Ark Mechanicus ship, when linked with an Archmagos, literally fired at an Eldar ship, in an space-time gravitational storm with a dorsal mounted black hole cannon. The ship was guided by a farseer, so they were able to dodge the projectile moving at the speed of light. At which time, the Ark Mechanicus ship fired some time-based tachyon weapon to move the Eldar ship back in time a nanosecond to ensure the shot connected and obliterated it.

STCs are literally what happens when you finish science. As in, all of it.

>doing shit secretly from the AdMech
Not possible.

Was it a nice Moon?

The concept of AdMech being extremely grateful and generous is kind of cute, I thought they'd just try to take it and that's that.

The Necrons finished science, what Humanity had in the age of STCs was amazing but it wasn't pure bullshit magic like the green tin cans.

that's not how you spell necrontyr, friend. Call it fanwank if you must but during their enfleshment the necrons achieved miracles of cold science that are so far removed from anything man will ever accomplish. An STC would help to level the playing field against eldar witchery and the Tau's current tech edge. Not turn a sect of sentient botherboards into sorcerers

I know..the blueballs from a wasted quint are something else

If they were so smart why couldn't they scrub their DNA of hyper cancer?

They're grateful and generous if you go, "AdMech senpai! AdMech senpai! I found this and want you to have it!

Yeah and most Rouge Traders would have enough common sense to not piss off Mars.

So, say you're a rogue trader and found one, how would you maximize your profit off it?

>Work out how to pull information from the STC
>copy and sell parts of this information to the Tau
>then sell directly to mars

>say you're a rogue trader and found one, how would you maximize your profit off it?

Contact your nearest Forge world and announce you've found an STC and want to give it to the AdMech.

This isn't some treasure to be bartered off, this is the holiest of holy to the industrial arm of the Imperium. Trying to bargain for a good deal on an STC with the AdMech is like trying to bargain for a good deal on the Emperor's corpse with the Imperium - you are *not* going to have a good time and you *are* going to get a bolter through the head for doing so.

As has been proven before, the AdMech is absurdly generous for even fragments of an STC gifted to them by those who find one, as long as you keep your ego in check and present the thing as pristine as you found it, the AdMech will give you anything.

...

Also, the ultimate thing you could find is not an STC, it's an STC Library.

STCs produce things like construction droids and threshing machines, it's the Library that contains the total sum of mankind's knowledge, and it's in a Library you'll find things like Warp Batteries and holographic field emitters.

It was more than a moon, the both got a civilized planet to rule over. Each.

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I played a dark heresy game where we found a lost STC with formula's the mechanicus mostly already had, but also contained a few incredibly useful things like how to RETROFIT (some kinds of) WEAPONS ON KNIGHTS.

It was difficult, arduous and most of the party died, and by then the dude who was giving it to the admech was a feral world-er and didn't understand it's value beyond "tech dudes really want it and so do the bad dudes, make sure the bad dudes don't get it"

He walks in unceremoniously walks in, the sole survivor of a 6 man cell of the best of the best. He is scarred, beaten, maimed but unbroken and his masters Rosarius gets him audience with the magos, and the entire conversation went
>"you bear the sigil of the inquisition, are you an inquisitor"
"no"
>"Who are you?"
I am Grom, I came to give you this
>"What do you offer us"
Master said you wanted it. Now you have it. I hope it was worth his life, he was a good man.
>*inaudible squealing of joy*
Ok, well you're welcome. *leaves*

He walked to a poor part of towns noodle bar and got something to eat before returning to ask about what he was supposed to do now.

DM ended the campaign there, but I always wondered how the admech would have rewarded him.

It was six in a row.

If a space marine found it, they'd probably let him retire.

AdMech's not physic, whose going to know your rogue trader has betrayed his race to filthmongering xenos for the sake of double dipping in wealth unimagineable

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But what a waste of 'em, man

If you don't want to get the whole imperial wrath pissing on your parade, you get in contact with AdMech asap and hand it over, then pray and hope they choose to reward you over branding you a heretek and making you disappear.

Dumb theory, the old ones did the cancer, to see what would happen

Sigh, sadly the only way a nothing can go, makes one wonder why they care about this setting

Basically, the AdMech would collectively lose their shit and mobilize everything to go get it and return it safely. Now, that sort of large-scale movement doesn't go unnoticed, and the Dark Mechanicus and traitor legions would also mobilize to fuck with the Imperium's shit as Chaos is wont to do. Likely some xenos races like the Eldar would also get involved on either side depending on how this all fits into whatever retarded scheme they're hatching next.

So basically, the planet this STC was found on turns into an all-out fucking battlefield. The Imperial Guard is fighting the traitor Guard and the Space Marines and CSM are dick-waving in the middle of it while the Orks are stomping around because they had to be included somehow and the AdMech are sending out their brains in a jar against the DarkMech's demons in a jar while the Eldar rub their hands together saying it was all according to plan when in reality they didn't do a fucking thing and will continue to not do a fucking thing.

Somewhere amidst all of this there are some titans and knights fighting because GW has to sell more knights.

Somewhere along the line in this, the STC gets destroyed, the Imperium gets pissed and declares Exterminatus on the planet, and nothing changes.

Welcome to 40k.

as a fa/tg/guy whose knowledge of 40k only comes from things I've read on this board, what does STC stand for in this context?

it's a robot that knows how to make anything out of whatever you have nearby.

>what does STC stand for in this context?

The STC is a Standard Template Construct, basically a blueprint that tells you exactly how to make a thing from the Dark Age of Technology using whatever materials you have on hand.

Thematically, the STC is a holy relic akin to the Holy Grail, it's the holiest of holy items to the AdMech and something they're willing to do ANYTHING to get.

Standard Template Construct - basically a bigass database that the original human colonists had with instructions on how to build everything they'd ever need to colonize a world, from farm equipment to weapons of war.

This is a huge thing for the Imperium since they have almost none of this information. The grand majority of it was lost to the ages and all they have are old printouts of some things like tanks and the like. Tech from back then (we're talking the Dark Age of Technology here - as in, amazing shit from when humanity wasn't fucking retarded) is of the utmost importance to the AdMech since even the weakest equipment from back then is better than what they're using now and could revolutionize the Imperium.

He would be given basically anything he wanted.

They would treat him like he shits gold and try to give him anything they think he wants until they feel like they're even.

Standard Template Construct.

Short version: it's a master archive of blueprints and manuals for nearly every piece of technology in human history.

Long version: it's a supercomputer, with both the manufacturing instructions, ingredient list, substitute ingredient list, and operation guides for the sum total of human technological history. It was put aboard the old Martian and Terran United Empire colony ships to accelerate the expansion of the old colonial network.

The problem is, the colonies didn't NEED all that shit. A little agricultural world doesn't need particle accelerators and macro-orbital traffic control sheaf satellites, for instance. What that wound up doing was limiting most worlds to just the basic structures and one or two specific, advanced pieces of technology (houses, power plants, tractors, etc) while the more advanced shit was rarely invoked. When the master copies of the STC on Mars and Earth were destroyed during the Age of Strife, humanity lost most of the advanced material, because there simply had been no reason for most colony worlds to actually use the information in them. Compounding the value of this old tech is that the printouts for them included some basic theory on the science behind the equipment it was making, like the physical, psychic, chemical, and biological processes involved in the operation of the technology or medicines in question. (1/2)

>guard squad discover a scrap of STC tech
>it makes fucking slightly better knives for the astartes
>tfw you and your buddies found some tech shit and now you each own a planet

Civilized worlds too, so they aren't blasted hellscapes or smell like fertilizer.

This was mentioned before, but the "typical" STC did not have the truly advanced shit available during the DAoT, it was largely colonization equipment and "basic" weaponry to hold back uppity natives.

The STC of STCs is the Library, which contains *everything.*

(2/2)

The Mechanicum has outstanding bounties on any old STC gear. Third and second-generation copies of their blueprints are worth an immense sum, because they are usually just the duplicates of the blueprints without the accompanying scientific information and file headings that would let the AdMech fit that data both into their existing knowledge of science and the partial reconstruction of the master STC that they have (which is missing over half its information). First-generation printouts from the actual STC printers are priced beyond measure, because they also describe where in the file structure they belonged and explain HOW it works.

Relics of STCs, that is, perfectly operational STC products with no deviations from the blueprints, are also extremely valuable because they can be reverse-engineered, and the Mechanicum will send Arks Mechanicus (ultra-heavy battleships with in-built engineering labs and spectrometers and the like) to retrieve it.

An STC Library is a collection of datafiles that detail all of the information that would be in the printouts, and they're staggeringly valuable, because they're basically a collection of first-generation printouts and an itemized index of how to retrieve them from the original STC.

An actual, FUNCTIONAL STC would be valued beyond any other prize by the Imperium, because it would allow them to rebuild literally ALL of old humanity's tech achievements, plus what few improvements they've made in the interim (anti-Warp tech, vehicle suspension, directed Pulse Lasers, some Titan tech). They'd actually be able to surpass the Old Empire with that. It's why GeeDubs will never, ever allow it to happen.

>quints
>wasted on the most non sensical comment ever about 40k and the Adeptus Mechanicus

What if they found one that just essentially made "lasgun+1"? It was still just as easy to make, but was better in every concievable way.

How much of an impact would that have?

Depends on what, specifically, that +1 does. Realistically, whomever found it gets a huge reward and nothing else really changes.

The Imperium has just shy of a quadrillion citizens, maybe a trillion under arms, untold billions of laser-armed police and Arbites. They would almost ALL level up. Once the AdMech had production nailed down, the Imperium would get even harder to beat in a straight fight, since they would be able to arm PDF with the old lasguns and give the new ones to the Guard and such.

>How much of an impact would that have?

Nothing really changes beyond the Guard having better flashlights and whoever found the STC getting his own world.

>The Imperium has just shy of a quadrillion citizens

No.

The Imperium has tens of quadrillions native to just the Hive Worlds.

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I've seen the number fluctuate, to be honest. Some of the numbers for Hive World populations aren't really possible, given the human birthrate and the limits of architecture.

fuck of namefag.

You're also wrong, even without spacemetal and furte-architecture places like the slums of Delhi have population density so high it baffles the mind

That is absolutely and indisputably wrong.

Please try harder next time.

youtu.be/YgHNtzxO0y8

The untold billions of guardsmen receive the tiniest upgrade.
They grow from almost succumbing to the enemy's of the imperium to pushing them back bit by bit, the imperium's army is much more powerful than it was before, more reliance on guardsmen for elite fights than space Marines.
The imperium gets its shit together just a little bit more and life gets the tiniest bit better.

Fly straight to Mars and demand to give it to the High Fabricator personally. Maximum fame, fortune and flash.

Also, the High Fabricator is the only one powerful enough to accept it on behalf of the AdMech, without any rivals bitching about it.

Forgeworld declares independence as the TRUE CHOSEN of the Omnissiah because Admech. The Admech are a bunch of greedy pricks. Hilarity ensues.

Humanity was still retarded, user. It says in the setting bible that hobby techies dicking around with their colonies' only STCs is a major factor in their decreasing longevity.

They were just retarded in a different way.

>The STC of STCs is the Library, which contains *everything.*
This is from some shitty Black Library novel, isn't it?

>The Imperium has just shy of a quadrillion citizens, maybe a trillion under arms, untold billions of laser-armed police and Arbites. They would almost ALL level up.

In a thousand years, maybe. I'd like you to stop for a moment and consider the logistical difficulties of disseminating information through and retooling production facilities across pretty much autonomously governed forge worlds in a feudal system the size of the galaxy.

There's also the fact that the Admech would probably not even want to share it.

>Life gets the tiniest bit better

This is 40k though. The new guns would be tainted by Khorne or something and everyone who gets one falls to Chaos and the Imperium needs to annihilate a ton of planets.

Things aren't allowed to get better in the grim darkness of the forty-first millennium.

because they have a high immigrant population retard.

This. The AdMech would still suck your dick if you gave it to them freely.

With the lasguns they already distribute? Not seeing it.

>Things aren't allowed to get better in the grim darkness of the forty-first millennium.
It's a shame, I'd love a DAoT game or a Warhammer 41,000 game where the Emperor is back on his feet, humanity is on the offensive and technology was back at its peak. The DAoT fluff that occasionally turns up is by far the coolest stuff in 40k

Agreed. The Imperium jumps to the #2 spot in terms of technology, and if they can mass-produce it they steamroll other factions. They already outnumber everything but Orks and Tyranids. Give them tech on DAoT level and they win.

It might have some noticeable effect hundreds or even thousands of years down the line, but very little beyond a few people getting massive rewards. The logistics are against it. Assuming the absolute best case scenario and its a full on magic-lasgun making machine rather than just schematics, the Mechanicus accepts it all no questions asked with little testing and its possible to replicate the device - even if its operating constantly there's a hard limit to the amount of guns it can produce, which then need to be distributed. Even if you can replicate the device, you've still got to replace some of your existing manufacturing base while maintaining a constant output of weapons for all parts of the Imperial war machine plus private consumers. The guns need transport, the primary STC and the seed developments from it need constant guard so that they don't fall into the hands of an enemy before the designs can spread widely. Given how robust the standard Lasgun is, most existing weapons will remain in service for a stupidly long time before they need replacing, which means that there's still going to be tonnes of them about until the end of time.

Those regiments of the Guard that get the upgraded guns will show some improvement, assuming that anyone survives the engagement. This might even be noticeable at a higher Imperial level once production numbers get big enough. Unfortunately, at that level you will also be seeing rebels, heretics, mutants and cultists of every persuasion acquiring them in growing numbers, so its a bit of a wash really.

"Slum Population in Delhi - After Mumbai, Delhi has the second largest slum Population in India. Nearly 1.8 million people lives in slum areas in capital of India - New Delhi. These people are mostly unemployed or daily wage workers who cannot even afford basic necessities of life."

indiaonlinepages.com/population/slum-population-in-india.html

Warhammer 41k would actually be a hilarious April Fools from GW.

I don't think you understand what the grimdark of 40k entails, the broad strokes are bleak but things can be downright pleasant if you look hard enough.

Remember, gray is made out of just as much white as it is black.

Maybe? It's what I read on the wiki page for STC.

>Emperor gets back up
>Primarchs come back
>Daemon primarchs stop crying into their pillows and join the fray
>Orks win War of the Beast and create a super Waaagh
>Necrons stop fucking around on a go on Archer-style rampage
>Eldar finish creating their god
>Dark Eldar join the New Eldar
>Tyranids show up in full force
>Tau just use the same gay-ass plot armour as always

I'd give a fuck if GW would stop having their lore written by fanboys on a volunteer basis.

The tyranids are slowly overrunning the Octarius Empire. No way the orks can stop them.

If any Ork can, it would be Gazghul.

But how does a STC library look?

There's never been official art. There was a Gaunt book that described one, but it's been retconned to shit since then.

Fuck if anybody knows. It could be a supercomputer or some shit, it could a tiny disc (look up about some new quartz coins that can store 360TB of data for 14 billion years) with all the necessary programs and recipes, it could be anything.

This, pretty much. But knowing 40K, it'd either be a fuck-huge construct which you could fight an entire battle in, or something so small and seemingly insignificant it'd make the One Ring cry plagiarism.

>ITT People that missunderstand what an STC is

The Imperium already has thousands of them. One for almost every shit they produce. Leman Russ STC, Knight STC, Lasgun STC, Plasma Annihilator STC and so forth.

You are talking about the master library stuff that makes true AoT tech and those are rare as fuck but still exist (hidden) on several Forgeworlds. The true Master STC is the Omni-something that was discovered on a Daemonworld and the Ad-Mech is mobilising billions of Scitarii to reclaim it. But it's probably/most likely Chaos-tainted anyway.

I really couldn't give less of a shit which faction you fanboy for, buddy.

Sex confirms!

You are the one who is wrong.

Happened before
Two guardsman found an STC for a different kind of combat knife and were rewarded the governorship over two planets. Also became saints

He is right though. It is an important part of the 40k fluff as it is why weapons like the phosphex cannot be made anymore as the STC was destroyed.

Here are some codex entries.

>fanboy
It's canon.

Youre over exaggerating a little, the eldar empire was leagues above any point of the human empire, and the necrontyr were above the Eldar. Finding an STC would massively help them defend their borders and push back, but it wouldn't be an instant win button

STCs didn't have C'tan batterys. If it's in the codex that they out tech the Age of Technology human federation then fine but some AoT stuff is up there on the bullshit scale as well.

Thank you, so many people don't get this.

This sort of happened already.

Minutes-to-midnight on the 13th Black Crusade plot has the AdMech discover the suspected location of an STC called the Omnicopeia on a Daemon World. The Omnicopeia is an STC which contains plans for every single Imperium design with a psychic component. It could give the knowledge necessary to repair the Golden Throne, or allow the Emperor to ascend as a true God of humanity, allow humanity to push back the warp, give them the knowledge to revive the Emperor's planned human Webway project, or even cause humanity to collectively awaken as a psychic species with enough power to push back the Warp.

So basically, every available Skitarii Legion (not currently occupied with rebelling the 13th Black Crusade) is assembling and coordinating a concerted assault on this Daemon world, bringing with them the full might of the Cult Mechanicus as well as the bizarre and horrifying weapons of Mankind's Dark Age under the Ordo Reductor. But the clock's set at minutes-to-midnight, so you'll probably see what happens come Age of Emperor.