Why is this just about the only traditional game set in the world of Harry Potter?

Why is this just about the only traditional game set in the world of Harry Potter?

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Cause Rowling sucks at worldbuilding and the entire setting is full of contrivances and cliches to support the protagonists and the story at the expense of realism.

Because Harry Potter is basically fantasy for normies.
Badly written, inconsistent, and with lore doled out to teenage girls who write begging letters.

Good.
Harry Potter sucks anyway and the farther it stays from my hobbies, the happiest I am.

Thou niggas of mine

Don't forget mostly consisting of ideas stolen from older authors. Not even in an acceptable "inspired by" way.

Mostly because it's inconsistent.
Magic seems so fucking powerful in the books right? But Rowling flat out said that a Muggle with a shotgun could have killed Voldemort no problem.

The wizarding world is very archaic, but everything has an answer, meanwhile, the real world has the Internet and modern technology.

I ask that question everyday user

>But Rowling flat out said that a Muggle with a shotgun could have killed Voldemort no problem.
In the first book, Hagrid has no problem stopping a muggle with a shotgun. Also, that quote can't be sourced to any actual interview.

I honestly could not enjoy the books as a child because I didn't understand a single fucking thing about the setting and various holes kept haunting me.

I feel bad because I dismissed the card game initially, but having played it recently, it was actually really good. Better than Pokemon or Yugioh.

i still dont understand why people think quidich is a good sport it exists to allow harry to save the day on his own.

also yeah she tells good storys but her worlds fall apart under the slightest inspection

Voldemort isn't a badass half-giant with more balls than a hypersperg middle-aged alt-right-er

Vernon was a chickenshit who didn't have the balls to pull the trigger right off the bat. Someone with a gun and the will to fire could take out Voldemort easily provided they had the jump on him.

It's stated by Barty Crouch disguised as Moody that the killing curse requires an actual burning will to kill the person, and that if the whole class attacked him at once he'd get a nosebleed at worst, so it's like guns; no will to pull the trigger fucks you over.

Then again he could've been outright lying to make students wary of using an "unreliable" spell

She doesn't tell good stories. She tells stupid, shallow stories that progress only through coincidences and deus ex machinas.

No, Voldemort is a wizard who has survived death a bunch of times and was so powerful even your "badass half-giant" was too chickenshit to say his name but yeah no a shotgun could take him according to a quote with no actual source.

Oh, and it's not even "a muggle with a shotgun could have killed Voldemort no problem" but "in a fight between a muggle with a shotgun and a wizard, the muggle would win" or something similar. Which again doesn't make sense because we see a wizard (Hagrid) handle a shotgun no problem, and it's also unsourced.

And even if JK actually said it, does it matter? She also said she never made Hermione white even though artwork she made, artwork she approved, the actress she approved, and the "white face" line indicate otherwise. It's Lucas saying Greedo shot first.

There are tons of tgs in the Harry Potter universe. There was a quidditch board game that took forever to set up (and came with a catapult!), there's a recent one called Harry Potter Hogwarts Battle, and there are a fair few more that are all varying levels of terrible.

Hagrid is also strong enough to bend a barreled shotgun with one hand.

Wizarding World RPG series would make a fuckton of money.

Hagrid most likely knows what a gun is, hence why he bends the barrel upwards.
Considering how idiotically shut-in wizards are, most probably wouldn't know what that funny toy in the hand of the stupid muggle is, until he's dead. Hell, last time wizards looked, Muggles probably used crossbows and bows en masse.

Now, that doesn't mean a wizard couldn't stop and severely fuck up everyone trying to shoot him, if he took the threat seriously. Deflection and Shields, Teleporting, Mind Control, becoming Invisible and throwing out charms that simply stop an fuck up any form of technology have all been shown. Magic in Harry Potter is literally "It does everything", from opening locks, to folding clothes, to transfiguring animals into cups. It's just that the wizarding society is 100% made of pomp and arrogance, so nobody ever actually prepares or goes at things rationally.

And Voldemort has Horcruxes that make him immortal.

Fuck
No
Don't do it
I don't want that shit to exist
I already have enought rpgs to hate

I just never had enough cards to build two decks.

Current movie also features a scene where a bunch of cops fire at a wizard with no effect.

But you know it would make so much fucking money man.

Voldemort was raised by muggles and would know what a shotgun is.

You'd fucking think so, but consider that there are many, many, MANY muggleborn wizards and yet they know jack-shit about the muggle world. World War 2 of all things didn't even properly ping on their radar. You'd think somebody would notice the fucking nukes, but apparently not.

Yes, I know, people would buy Rowling's shit if she sold it.
Well, they already *do*, but I mean, literally.
I mean more literally.

It's just their version of "Speak the Devil and he'll appear". Considering all the magic in the books it's likely he could be alerted whenever someone spoke his name.

Stop trying to find any sense in that mess. Please. There's none, it's really not worth it.

>Magic in Harry Potter is literally "It does everything"
I had a hard time taking HP seriously because of this. Magic in their universe literally does everything, but not a single wizard could ever be fucked to DO anything with it beyond getting to work faster or doing the dishes.

To be fair, while wizards don't know anything about muggles, muggles also don't know anything about wizards, and they aren't going to take some guy pointing a twig at them as a serious threat. I'd say wizards know more about muggles than muggles know about wizards (especially considering there's muggle studies classes).

Plus, don't wizards teleport about at high speeds in fights? I dunno, maybe if the muggle had the jump on the wizard, they could snipe them, but in a straight fight, a wizard could just disarm them or apparate or do any other spell and shut that muggle down.

There's an HP mini game coming out soon you know.

He wasn't just muggle-born, he was raised in a muggle orphanage. He knows about shotguns the same way Harry Potter knows what a shotgun and other muggle things are, and we see Harry Potter explaining muggle shit to wizards. Same with Hermione.

Voldemort knows what a shotgun is.

>a fucking 10 year old
>raised in an orphanage in 1958
>in a country known for its strong gun laws
>totally knows all military technology
MURICA
MURICA
MURICA

That's exactly my fucking point.
You'd think the wizard world would know more about the muggle world with the influx of muggles they have, but magical brittain's leading expert on Muggle technology can't figure out how a fucking plane works, even though that just takes a visit to a fucking library.

>and they aren't going to take some guy pointing a twig at them as a serious threat.
Kingsley Shacklebolt would be dead in two seconds if american cops saw him

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>you need to know all military technology to know what a shotgun is
Also, I'm not American. I live in a country where firearms are banned. I know what a firearm is. I knew what a firearm was before I was ten.

And obviously some people in England have firearms in the Harry Potter universe since Harry's uncle had one.

I foresee dioramas of Hogwarts being stormed by motherfucking Space Marines

Cannot bolt the Shatlebolt.

Of course 40kids shoving their magical realm in things.

I'm very eager to see two magical realms ruining each other, to be fair

He's black, he'll put down, SO SAY GRAND WIZARD TRUMP

Your explanation about why planes fly is probably wrong
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So is it a wargame or just an RPG that uses minis? I can't even think of how a HP wargame would work.

I don't think they really give a fuck. Britain's leading Muggle tech expert is a laughing joke because who gives a fuck how airplanes work when you can just broomstick or teleport or fly at will. I don't care about how cavepeople made stuff out of stones and I think most of humanity right now feels the same way because we can do better shit more easily.

Probably just skirmish level, not full wargame.

it's a skirmish game apparently. knight models, the same guys who are doing those marvel/dc mini games.

Your point stands, but that's an incredibly shitty way to present an explanation of how it actually works, becaus it spends 4/5 of the page with explaining a theory of how it does in fact NOT work.

Not that hard. Just have five to ten dudes per side, every wizard has a profile with four or five spells he can cast and the rest as usual.
Sounds like great fun to me.

But when all it takes for those cavemen to wipe out your entire wizard academy is to drop a single metal object from one of their planes?
It's just arrogance on their part.

Also, the Internet.
Why the fuck would they not use the Internet? It's a database of knowledge far beyond their wildest dreams. And if other wizards use it, imagine how quickly alchemy and spellcraft would advance.

>But when all it takes for those cavemen to wipe out your entire wizard academy is to drop a single metal object from one of their planes?
Except they absolutely can't. They can't find the place and, even if they could, the place has all sorts of wards and protections, and all it takes is one student to take down one of those planes. Not even a particularly smart student.

Also, fuck the Internet, 90% of the shit on the internet is total fucking garbage, their society is much better off without it.

He says while using the internet.

If I could do magic I would never use the Internet.

And look at us bitter virgin neckbeards discussing about the logics of a children/YA book series on a mongolian cartoon GeoCity. All the knowledge in the world and we mainly use it to fap watching sick pornography. Well done.

That's a bad argument, because everybody who gives half a shit about stone tools knows how they're made, whereas the leading muggle tech expert doesn't know something you can learn just as easily.

kek

>Not fapping to diagrams displaying the inner workings of military hardware
>Not fapping to the flawless art of the masters before us
>Not learning as you fap
Look at this uninformed plebeian, look at him and laugh.

>a shotgun is "military technology"

It was nice but it had what is IMO a fatal flaw in a deck building game - damage as milling. Playing the game makes you unable to play the game, which is just bad design.

Then again, with the internet we can learn everything and yet here we are shitposting on Veeky Forums.

It´s stupid as hell, but I think it´s quite accurate and perfectly believable.

She created a world which is uniquely contemporarily British while remaining fantastic. You may dislike it for its cliches or contrivances, but its whimsy appealed to people for good reason.

Rowling has admitted that Quidditch is a dumb sport if you examine it closely.
She's not into sports, and she needed a football analogue where one player could make or break a game.

Voldemort was raised in a strict orphanage until the age of 10, at which point he basically ceased interacting with the muggle world, and what little he does know he actively rejects.

I doubt the fucker knows what a car is.

>she needed a football analogue where one player could make or break a game
yeah its pretty blatent
i dont really mind that she did it but it frustrates me when people try and pretend its anything but what it is.

i should check out that casual vacancy book she wrote

I swear to god the fucking Hermione card was such bullshit!
Ramp, every fucking turn.

>Rowling has admitted that Quidditch is a dumb sport if you examine it closely.
It's an interesting concept up until you think about the fact that it's needlessly violent (two entire positions dedicated to hurting people... even Hockey isn't that fucking obvious about it), and victory almost entirely relies on the Seeker.

The point was to make Harry the focus of those scenes (which it does), but the cost is a shit-terrible rule system.

To its credit, real-life Quidditch leagues reduce the snitch value to 3 goals, which is an acceptable amount. Too bad everyone looks fucking retarded running around with brooms between their legs throwing balls all over the place.

TL;DR Shit implementation of an interesting idea.

>You may dislike it for its cliches or contrivances, but its whimsy appealed to people for good reason
I perfectly understand the appeal of a wish-fulfillment fantasy set in a school of magic that is also a castle with comfy houses, rules and uniforms and cotton-candy teenager lives, plus magic, dragons, dark wizards and prophecies.
It's still trash. Trash that proves very appealing for many people, but trash nonetheless. And I'm not talking about cliches or contrivances, I'm talking about the complete lack of structure and internal coherency in both her setting and her narrative, and her inability to progress a story without a ridiculous rate of fortuituous coincidences and deus ex machinas. Or the complete lack of foreshadowing, or the carboard characters.

>Rowling has admitted that Quidditch is a dumb sport if you examine it closely.
It is utterly retarded considering that it's basically game over once one squad gets the Snitch, so the entire rest of the game is entirely pointless. Not to mention the set of ball that is there only to injure players for shit and giggles.

>I'm talking about the complete lack of structure and internal coherency in both her setting and her narrative,
True

>and her inability to progress a story without a ridiculous rate of fortuituous coincidences and deus ex machinas.
In her defense, fate and destiny are a major part of the whole plot.

>Or the complete lack of foreshadowing, or the carboard characters.
I'll disagree with the former, and partly disagree with the latter. The whole series had a lot of foreshadowing. But it tended to be very ham-fisted (oh look, what's-her-face has a time-travel device. I wonder if that'll be useful later in this book then never get mentioned again for the entire series?).

As for bland characters, I will say that she's hit or miss. Some characters turn out alright (Snape wasn't bad, since he turns out deeper than just a shitty asshole; but every other villain's a moustache-twirling dickwad, and nearly every good character seems like some contrived secret fanboy for Harry, the Mary Sue of all Mary Sue protagonists).

Because apart from Voldemort, there aren't many interesting antagonists for a campaign?

This brings up a point, who do you consider to be an interesting character in Harry Potter? They all feel kinda meh to me

The only one I can really remember being interested is later-books Draco. He's been set up as "generic rich kid antagonist" throughout the entire series, and yet there are points where it feels like he's actually having an internal conflict over if what he's doing is the right thing.

Nah, I'm sorry, you're missing my point about foreshadowing. Rowling can't plan one fucking book ahead. Prophecies look like they're important stuff in book five, but never seemed that relevant before and the story works just as well without them in the end.

The horcruxes are never mentioned until the very same book Harry needs to start searching for them. Then it turns out they're indestructible, then it turns out the diary in book two was a horcrux which was destroyed because Basilisk venom can destroy them apparently (which was never mentioned before) and thus the sword of Gryffindor can too because it can absorb what doesn't destroy it or shit like that (which was never fucking mentioned before) and then it gets to them through a fucking deus ex machina. That's the opposite of foreshadowing, that's saying "Oh yeah it's totally consistent, see, I'm using things I've already mentioned before, only I never mentioned the only properties of these things that make them relevant now, but I'm doing that now that I need it, so it's alright!" It's insulting.

And yes, her characters are pretty much fucking cardboard. She only draws something new on said cardboard on later books to make them look deep, but they're mostly defined by how she describes them rather than by how they behave. And about Snape it's so fucking clear she didn't make up her mind about him until the last damn book, you can't really say anything positive about his character developement.

Because a stone tool is much, much less complicated than an airplane and how it works, and can be understood if you understand basic science. To understand how an airplane works, you have to understand much more complicated science, which a magic user isn't going to know because magic is superior in every way to science. They don't learn science for the same reason we don't learn how to make stone tools.

Additionally, learning magic teaches you that science is wrong. Science says there's no way that magic could exist, and yet for a wizard, it very clearly does. The two are incompatible.

Arthur Weasley also wasn't the expert on muggles. He worked for "the Misuse of Muggle Artefacts Office" and, later, "the Office for the Detection and Confiscation of Counterfeit Defensive Spells and Protective Objects." Neither job required him to understand how an airplane worked. With muggle-born wizards like Harry and Hermione being fairly common, it's clear there are wizards who know about muggle tech.

He eventually did just that.

Has anyone watched the latest movie? Apparating everywhere, deflector shields, throwing cars at people, endless magic, Muggles stand absolutely no chance at all.

Wandless not endless

Yep. And Depp is right at the end: the rules are to protect the muggles, not the wizards. Wizards aren't afraid they'll be killed if they're exposed, they're afraid they'll have to kill all the non-wizards if they're exposed.