Is a horror plot about murderous hillbillies racist?

no, no, you misunderstand

i'm simply pointing out that if user is going to claim racism, he needs to get his claim right

according to /pol/, irish aren't white, and according to the McCoys and Hatfields, hillbillies are mixed scots-irish

ie they are not white, and there is no "we white people" here

i think you and i probably agree this is ridiculous, but it's what /pol/ believes; none of the so-called "european races" have historically believed themselves closely related, nor have any of them considered the hierarchy of races to figure them towards the bottom

this Steinerist bunk has to end, but while you permit /pol/ to both claim "white nationalism" and simultaneously the existence of the hierarchy of races, the bunk continues

And here we have the very simple assumption that underlines all of modern race relations:

It's okay to be racist against white people, because white people are strong. Black people on the other hand are inferior and need to be protected.

That's the real reason that you see so many "anti-racist" whites. It isn't anything to do with compassion for minorities, it simply feeds into their own inflated sense of self importance and justifies the fact that they don't really take black people seriously.

Also, see the second to last post in the pic.

If you think bigotry is wrong no matter what the colour, or if you think infantilizing black people doesn't really help them, enjoy being called a racist by modern liberals.

>according to /pol/, irish aren't white
You do understand that /pol/ is another board on Veeky Forums, and not just some 19th-century-caricature racist boogyman that your friends on reddit use to scare you? Because nothing you're saying bears more than a passing resemblance to what actually goes on on /pol/

Its overdone as hell either way, only use it in a blatantly cliche game.

>If you think bigotry is wrong no matter what the colour, or if you think infantilizing black people doesn't really help them, enjoy being called a racist by modern liberals.
>says the white conservative male
Do you wonder why people laugh at the argument you are making?
It's because it is incredibly self serving. It relieves you, and people like you, of the burden of recognizing your own actions and contributions to the situation as it stands, and places it on others.

Black guy here, I can speak for myself, faggot.

>Do you wonder why people laugh at the argument you are making?
No, not really. If you'll read , I just explained why some people are cunts about this. I mean, in the broader sense I do sometimes wonder what cruel and malevolent god forced me to share a planet with you people, but on a less macro scale the causes are pretty clear.

>It's because it is incredibly self serving.
well, I think we can assume that you're completely incapable of seeing the irony in that statement, so lets move on to the next part

>It relieves you, and people like you, of the burden of recognizing your own actions and contributions to the situation as it stands
no it doesn't. Nothing I've said in any way implies that it's okay for white people to be racist against black people.

are you sure about that? He (almost certainly) is a young white college student after all. I'm sure he knows a lot more about racism than the average black guy.

youtube.com/watch?v=pWqMYqFI2tg

>reverse racism
Fuck off, /pol/.

If the plot took place in a rural community of fat-lipped, nappy-haired, watermelon eating black people who speak in ebonics and have seven kids to a family, each with different fathers, would that be classist if the player character was a respectable black person?

spoiler: we all know damn well that it would still be called racist.

Wouldn't that be classist, if anything?

Does anyone else remember that one time back when not everything had to be about politics, or was I dreaming?

Yes, but nobody cares because they're white

Hillbillies aren't only white so no.

Mostly, it's cliché as fuck. An interesting twist would be nice.

>according to /pol/, irish aren't white

You mean according to shitposters on /pol/

>reverse racism
Doesn't exist. It's racism, plain and simple.

An easy trick it that if you replace "hillbillies" with "black people" and your reaction goes from, "this is fine" to frothing at the mouth, it's racist and so are you.
Did you really think of black hillbillies? Or arabic? That's always been a white stereotype to my knowledge.

>Did you really think of black hillbillies? Or arabic?
Yes there are black hillbillies. Especially in the south.

So according to /pol/.

You were dreaming. Most tabletop games include political satire in some form or another, and drew some political commentary of their own (gif related)

You're just noticing it more now. In the past, the gaming community existed in comfortable, complacent self assurance - it was a small, close knit community and everybody pretty much agreed with each other on political issues. It was easy for everyone to laugh at the religious fundies who said D&D was satanic, and include caricature witch-hunter characters in their games as a response.

But these days Wahammer of being misogynist and racist. And suddenly you have a split - those who think this latest attack on their hobby as 'immoral' is just as bullshit as all the others. And those who value their progressive politics and their liberal friends more than they value the gaming community.

in case that was a little wordy for you, this short vid should explain the current situation in the gaming community
youtube.com/watch?v=9YEkPz1e-iU

It's only racist if your players immediately kill or arrest them on suspicion they're murderous

Fair enough, it still seems like something you'd see applied to white people though. Hell, Wikipedia (not a source, but a decent barometer of public thought) has it listed under "Stereotypes of White Americans".

>implying Irish are human

I wish I could go back to dreaming, then.

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I can tell you with the utmost confidence that all the hillbillies I know, both murderous and not, don't give a single shit.

maybe their lack of political awareness is why they're trapped in poverty

amen to that

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It could look racist if you are not American. If you believe said hillbillies represent the US, then yes it is racist. If you think sub-group of US citizens, it is not racist.

Hillbillies aren't a race, so no.

Neither are hip-hop listening urban youths without jobs and fathers.

>that picture
How convenient. I've always wanted the reasons America should just be put out of its misery summed up in one handy .png

>according to /pol/, irish aren't white
user that was once the puplic opinion in the US wether you want it to be true or not does not change the fact.
And if OP wants to make his setting right he should consier such things

>user that was once the puplic opinion in the US wether you want it to be true or not does not change the fact.
then you will have no trouble giving us a citation for that 'fact'.

>Using Google is too hard for me
xroads.virginia.edu/~ug03/omara-alwala/irishkennedys.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Americans#Discrimination

M8, Irish aren't white. Neither are any of the following: rest of the celts, anglos, spanish, portugalians, slavs, mediterraneans, balts, finns, or germanics.

Poor niggers, no matter who is power they get treated as subhumans that can't make their own decisions and need white masters to tell them what to do.

If you actually read the wikipedia article, it says nothing about the Irish not being considered white. It says that they were discriminated against because of their Catholicism, but I suppose as an American who has been raised to always view things through the prism of racial politics this is too complicated a concept for you.

There were plenty of negative Irish stereotypes being passed around, but only a tiny fringe ever sought to classify the Irish as non-white.

I wonder whether Ben Garrison cartoons will ever get passed around as an example of public opinion in the early 21st century?

And in the other one it is said they were viewed as a servant race on pair with black and chinese

>And in the other one it is said they were viewed as a servant race on pair with black and chinese
That isn't exactly what it says. it just says that the Irish were 'lumped in with them', which is a fairly vague phrase which could just mean that they were discriminated against in a similar way. Besides, that article specifically looks at Boston, where there was a large Irish community, which caused tension with the established Anglo-American elite.

In reality, the Irish weren't treated anywhere near the same as non-white minorities. Take another look at the wikipedia article - it mentions John Hughes, the archbishop of New York, and his campaign for Catholic education. Do you honestly think that a black person or an asian in 1850s America would have been able to lobby the great and the good of American society in the same way?

>hillbillies
Is "hillbilly" a race?

Technically yes, as soon as they are sufficiently inbred.

Thanks user. People like this cop are the reason why I still have some faith in humanity.

That cop has the patience of a saint, jesus. Some of those people are just working themselves into a frenzy. It's odd to see the dissonance in the protesters to not notice that helping only the group you are apart of while openly ignoring or passing over others because they're not apart of the same group as you is.....strange. Isn't that exactly what they're protesting against?

According to the hierarchy of races, nobody is white, everyone is just different shades of nigger, be it the melanin in their skin or the tarnish on their souls. From nigger do we all come, in nigger do we all reside, and to nigger do we go. Some may be more nigger than others, but deep down we're all just comparing shades and hues of darkest black.

Ask Hillary how it turned out when she did it.

Its not really that odd to see such dissonance when you consider the generation protesting has been entrenched in identity politics since birth.

youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g

These people are literally KGB sleeper agents programmed to destroy America. That's all you need to know about them.

By the standards of most people who write these kin of stories: hell yes.
For me it's just overused.

>made up neologism to maintain your tumbling, inconsistent cherry picker ideology with the logical consistency of a hash dream

Fuck off, tumblr.

I don't know if this argument is right, but it's interesting when you consider that not even a century ago, the idea was still of the White Man's Burden, and that they had to take care of these poor subhumans.

The context has changed, the language has changed, but it can be argued that the ideas behind them haven't changed.

it's not really racist

the murderous hillbillies of history are pretty well documented

it's why they were always a fussin' and a fuedin'

So are the murderous black thugs and the jewish bankers. Stereotypes don't fall from the sky, but we are made to believe that it is a crazy sacrelege to thematize over generalization a, but generalization b is fair game, because it is more en vogue in an anti white mainstream culture.

The 1800s did try to pass off the idea that the Irish were descended from Africans who got lost or some shit.
/pol/ is just stupid enough to believe it, too.

Well, you just said it was a campaign about murderous racists, so that would be hard but not impossible to pull off.

I think on some level horror gets a free pass, especially when it comes to the enemies that you face - usually people get up in arms more about the protagonists and their race and abilities.

Besides, murderous/cannibal hillbillies is a fairly common horror trope.

>The 1800s did try to pass off the idea that the Irish were descended from Africans who got lost or some shit.
Yeah, no. Only a tiny fringe ever took those sort of extreme racialist sentiments seriously. Although there was a larger feeling that as celts the Irish were a distinct (and inferior) race from the Anglo Saxon majority in America, but even then that was never nearly so much of a factor as anti-Catholic prejudices.

I wonder if in 150 years people will use Ben Garrison as an example of early 21st century political thought.

Considering the retardation that just won the election, probably.

Is this a american phenomenon?

Can confirm, we can take it.