40k general

I've been thinking of one to write into White Dwarf.

I was going to write

>Dear White Dwarf, in the [insert book I forget that mentions the fleet going to the Damocles Gulf] says that several Orders of Sister of Battle are going to the Damocles gulf to help fight the Tau. Yet they were not mentioned in Mont'ka or Kauyon. Are they still there? If they're there, what are they up to? Have they reached their deployment zone yet?"

Thoughts? I think it was the BRB which mentions the huge crusade fleet.

Anyway I posted it in last thread but deleted it as it was autosaged. Only way I can think of doing it without outright asking them.

>Flying monstrous creatures aren't considered monstrous creatures

What's the problem with imperial agents?

I mean, besides half the factions literally just being imperial guard squad upgrades turned into armies on their own.

Alright, I took all the advice to heart, and I changed my list a bit. Thats what Im currently getting. I think I`ll add a Russ Executioner to deal with TEQs, a platoon or two and a Wyvern or a Basilisk, cause I love those damned things. So, will that work out?

Reposting from earlier thread. There's an 1850 competitive scene around here and I'd like to try to join in on the fun with at least a decent chance at having a good game.

Emperor's Wrath Formation and also missing Jacobus. Hydras can be replaced by Wyverns if the enemy has no flyers.

ListBuilder doesn't have Sisters of Battle in it yet, so I have to use BattleScribe or pen/paper. Speaking of, re-posting my list here for critique. Think I'm close to a build-draft at the very least.

Combined Arms Detachment
Canoness
[Storm Bolter, Chainsword, Rosarius, The Litanies of Faith]
100pts

(2 squads)
Battle Sister Squad
[7x Battle Sister, Battle Sister with Heavy Flamer, Battle Sister with Flamer]
Veteran Sister Superior [Bolt Pistol, Combi-Melta]
Immolator [Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer, Loud Hailer]
177pts each

(2 squads)
Dominion Squad
[Dominion, 4x Dominion with Meltagun]
Dominion Superior [Bolt Pistol, Combi-Melta]
Immolator [Twin-Linked Multi-Melta, Loud Hailer]
185pts each

Exorcist
[Storm Bolter, Loud Hailer]
140pts

Exorcist
[Storm Bolter, Loud Hailer]
140pts

Retributor Squad
[4x Retributor with Heavy Bolter]
Veteran Retributor Superior [Bolt Pistol, Combi-melta]
120pts

Combined Arms Detachment
Militarum Tempestus Command Squad
[4x Tempestus Scion w/ Plasma Gun] Tempestor Prime [Close Combat Weapon, Hot-shot Laspistol]
145pts

(3 squads)
Militarum Tempestus Scions
[2x Tempestus Scion, 2x Tempestus Scion w/ Plasmagun]
Tempestor [Close Combat Weapon, Plasma pistol]
115pts each

Valkyrie Squadron
[2x Multiple Rocket Pods, Multi-laser]
135pts

1849/1850pts

you can still format better

like the retributor squad could just be

Retributors - 120
4x Heavy Bolter
Combi melta

btw that loadout is shit and makes no sense

Seems fine.

Even my HH army is formatted better than this
Come on user

--- Raven Guard - 2500pts ---
- Decapitation Strike -
>HQ
Forge Lord: Rad Grenades, Jump pack, Cyber Familiar, Power Axe, Field - 155

>Troops
10x Legion Tactical Squad: Artificer - 135
[Rhino - 35]
10x Legion Tactical Squad: Artificer - 135
[Rhino - 35]
5x Support Squad: 5x Melta, Artificer - 185
[Drop Pod - 35]

>Elites
10x Vet Tactical Squad: 2x Melta, Artificer, Melta Bombs - 225
[Drop Pod - 35]
7x Mor Deythan: 5x Combi-Flamers, 2x Melta, Artificer - 250
[Rhino - 35]

>Fast Attack
10x Dark Fury - 325
3x Javelin Speeders: 6x HK Missiles, 3x MM - 225

>Heavy Support
Deredeo: Aiolos ML, Ceramite - 240

>Lord of War
Corax - 450
2500/2500pts

>Dear Reader, good question! The several Orders of Sister of Battle were late to the fight, but made it to Damocles gulf just in time for the AdMech to unleash their firewall. Unfortunately all the Sisters of Battle were caught in the middle and there were no survivors.

>all these lists

I remember when List Threads used to be a thing. Also, the fact the List Builder is in OP makes the whole writing down thing bullshit. Yeah yeah "muh points are wrong", at least it looks cleaner.

...

sup Veeky Forums

I found the old Chapter Approved vehicle design rules and made a Land Speeder Storm variant that carries normal Marines.

>Land Speeder Thunder - 80 points
>Fast Skimmer
>AV 10 all around
>Heavy Flamer
>5 transport capacity

Balanced?

If I drop the Heavy Flamer and Fast it goes down to 55.

Well, seeing as that guy asked about SoS and Custodes and got told "We may see them again soon..." or something when asking about them in 40k and then in WoM the end of the book has a picture of SoS and something about a request for them to go fight on Cadia or some shit.

Who knows. We might get something if that guy asks that question.

But if they were all killed, that's not all the SoB.

>astra militarum vehicles sub-sub-edition

I'm just disappointed with it. Expected actual balance changes and updates instead of them just straight adding meh formations and calling it a day.

Basically:
But it also just seems like such a fucking hackjob. They really did not put any effort into it.

What games have you had this week?

Blood Angels vs IG and Tau, 2000pts. Allied victory on points, in the face of BA about to wipe out EVERYONE.

>80 points for AV10 with 5 transport
maybe good for orks, that's about it.

It was more of a 'well I gotta give her something, right?' But I get what you mean. Probably a storm bolter would do better. Is this any better? I didn't think it was that cluttery to begin with, but it's still a big ol wall of text I guess.

Combined Arms Detachment
Canoness
[Storm Bolter, Chainsword, Rosarius, The Litanies of Faith]
100pts

2x Battle Sister Squad
[7x Battle Sister, Heavy Flamer, Flamer
Veteran Sister Superior [Combi-Melta]
Immolator [Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer, Loud Hailer]
177pts each

2x Dominion Squad
[Meltagun]
Dominion Superior [Combi-Melta]
Immolator [Twin-Linked Multi-Melta, Loud Hailer]
185pts each

2x Exorcist
[Storm Bolter, Loud Hailer]
140pts

Retributor Squad
[4x Heavy Bolter]
Veteran Retributor Superior [Storm Bolter]
115pts

Combined Arms Detachment
Militarum Tempestus Command Squad
[4x Plasma Gun]
145pts

3x Militarum Tempestus Scions
[2x Plasmagun, 2x Scion]
Tempestor [Plasma pistol]
115pts each

Valkyrie Squadron
[2x Multiple Rocket Pods, Multi-laser]
135pts

1844/1850pts

Last game I had I almost tabled the IG player but lost by 1 victory point.
I would have at least tied if my ironclad hadn't fumbled its charge roll into the guy's command squad

>playing melta-vets on 500pts
You scum.

I want to play badly right now...but...FLGS and the GW are closed today. FLGS doesn't play till Thursday, and GW doesn't open till Wednesday. What can I do?

play dawn of war, drink hot cocoa, cry

Why do your battle sister squads have heavy flamer immolators they don't fit in?

And don't you need an elites, or did I read my book wrong?

It has been FAQ'd to work

I played an 1850 game the other day. My Stormlance Demi + Coteaz + Scions vs. a full Deathwing list (I let him deepstrike turn one).

He actually gave me a serious run for my money on objectives despite the massive amounts of grav, plasma and melta in my list. I should've told him to pick another list honestly, but he said he'd face me with some superheavies next time (which should be fun).

Highlight of the game on my side was having my tac squad punch a lone Terminator to death. He slaughtered my bike Command squad and all the Scions. Eventually he conceded, even though I think we were pretty close on objectives (it would've come down to who killed who in the next combat).

First mistake 7 girls do not fit inside the Immolator.

It can only transport 6 girls or 5 plus their Big Cow or Pimp.

Troops:
Solid squad, either go for Veteran or Loud Hailer, if you have points left go for both.
Why have the Heavy Flamer on the Immolator? TL-MM is generally a better idea.
Remember the 7 girl problem.

Fast Attack:
Good good.

Heavy:
Not sure about the Loud Hailers, take them if you have points to spare.

Retribution squad, maybe just give the Superior a Storm Bolter, for extra Dakka. Not a fan of the Veteran, but meh.

I love the Scions with suicidal plasmas.

Troops and Fast general rule of thumb is:

Heavy+Special weapon > Combi Weapon for superior > Veteran > Extra bodies.

Seraphim if deep striking you can only get 8 otherwise the footprint will screw you over. Hand Flamer, never a Superior/Veteran unless you run Celestin

For transports is Dozer Blade > Loud Hailer > Storm Bolter

Exorcist Storm Bolter > Loud Hailer, Dozer Blade.

Admech vs. CSM.
Ended in a 7:7 tie.
Highlights were my Infiltrators throwing themselves at the Command Squad and managing a mutual kill at I4 when the Khorne Lord with Axe of Blind Fury wiped all 5 just as the taser attacks wiped him and his Chosen.
I got SO many taser 6s, I rolled about twice as many To Wound as I did To Hit. I should have taken a pic of the dice, it was insane.
Then my lone Sydonian Dragoon killed two Predators and then tarpitted a squad of CSM and a unit of possessed for about two straight turns, killing 3 Marines and 3 Posessed.

Looking forward to getting a Knight Warden and a bunch of hobby stuff for Xmas, I still need cork for bases, superglue, greenstuff and some paints.

Is the GW leadbelcher or Zandri Dust spray any good, and is there an identical and better and/or cheaper version from another company? I assume yes.

Proof?

Go look at the fucking FAQ on the GW website.

This is my first army list. I tried to avoid crutch cheesy bullshit, but still want it to be decent. How's it looking?

burden of proof is on you

proof is the FAQ

also this wisdom is fucking old as shit because it came from the original FAQ half a year ago

ITC ignores this and uses D3 wounds instead

good players ignore this by not fucking using anchors[/spoilers]

>spoonfeed me for i am babby

Not that guy, but to be fair the FAQ is right on their website. They just can't be arsed to link it to someone who's being a faggot about it.

They should just remove the anchor rule and reduce the point cost of stormsurge by 10-20p desu.

You're the one who asked for proof. We told you where it is. Go find it.

Where is the faq on the gw website. I found them on bols, but all I can find is the errata on gw, and there's not even an errata for Tau (or Eldar) listed there

I'm not even that guy I'm just too lazy to go to the website because I'm comfy watching youtube and this thread

I'm not even that guy (thanks for the you)

No FAQ for you then.

I'm that guy. I regret nothing.

its on the 40k facebook page in the photos

I present you now the most idiotic list I'm running tomorrow against Necrons. Just to see how bad of a list I can go in order for him to win.

HQ:
Canoness
[Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Rosarius]
80 pts

Troops:
2x Battle Sister Squad 145 pts each (290 pts):
[2x Bolter, Heavy Flamer, Flamer, Combi-Flamer]
Immolator TL-MM

Heavy Support (480pts) +
3x 2x Penitent Engines (Yes 6 angry chickens)

HQ:
Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor
[Bolt Pistol, Force Sword, Power Armour, Psyker (Mastery Level 1)]
63 pts

Elites:
Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband (80pts)
1x Psyker, 2x Acolytes with Bolter
Chimera
[Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Psybolt Ammunition]

Scroll the the bottom of the front page and click the "rules errata" link.

thanks for feeding me all the (you)'s

Needs more repentia.

Play full on assault sisters, you're going to lose no matter what list you bring.

you do it, because there's NO TAU FAQ THERE LOL

I know, but there's no Tau faq or errata there, it's only listed on Facebook and then on community sites like bols

That's incredibly obnoxious, what if someone doesn't have a Facebook account?

>good for Orks
>when they have Trukks
80 points wouldn't be so terrible if drop pods didn't exist.

How good are doom sirens?

>having a private life in 2016

What houserules do you use Veeky Forums ?
Rules that are in line with the fluff ?
Rules that improve the original rules ?

Also here's the ruling on it for anyone who wants it

>i am babby, look at me!

Executioners are just overheat machines now that they have been FAQ'd. If you are worried about TEQs, take wyverns, more vets with plasmaguns/melaguns in chiemras, a LR punisher, or a plasma platoon

grap a transport for the wraithguard

+1/tg/ like for using the old 1heavy/3bikes rule

i would replace some scatterlasers/starcannons with brightlances or you will have real trouble with a leman russ or similar,i.e. it will simply shoot your stuff from afar and you cant do anything

Against our local necron player?

Part of the fun facing him is to see how bad of a list we can make and still win. My personal record was I table him by turn 3 with MSU SoB against his wraith spam with the decurion.

>Executioners are just overheat machines now that they have been FAQ'd.

Executioners are fine, give them PE or something to mitigate gets hot and its ok.

...lol.

Yeah, play pure assault sisters.

It depends on how you interpret their values for side armor cost.

If it's pay ONCE for both sides, it comes out to 45 points for an LSS that can take Marines with no weapons and no Scout or Deep Strike. +1 point per dude transported, actually, so you could make a flying Rhino Assault Vehicle for 50 points. (or 60 if pay for both sides).

It's still unofficial for now, so it could be overturned.

user, everyone knows the right way to use the vehicle design rules is to make a walker with 100 boltguns on it, for a 150 point one man company.

Removed the Inquisitor and Fat Cow.

Added a Priest with Litanies, 8x Repentias in a Rhino

This came out in July, if they're seriously still working on it, then they either care way too much or way too little about this game.

Reposting my IW list, looking for feedbacks

Oh formatting error, my bad. List has 6 total, pointswise.

Swapped to Multimeltas on the Immos, dropped the Loud Hailers on the Exorcists, and slapped Dozer Blades on all the Immos.

I wanted to take Seraphim, but I liked the idea of suicidal plasma scions better. Maybe I'll make them anyway just to have the unit at all. Also gave the Tempestor a Plasma pistol to round it out to 1849.
Anyone have any Dark Eldar warriors they don't mind sending off?

Combined Arms Detachment
Canoness
[Storm Bolter, Chainsword, Rosarius, The Litanies of Faith]
100pts

2x Battle Sister Squad
[3x Battle Sister, Heavy Flamer, Flamer
Veteran Sister Superior [Combi-Melta]
Immolator [Twin-Linked Multi-Melta, Dozer Blade, Loud Hailer]
182pts each

2x Dominion Squad
[Meltagun]
Dominion Superior [Combi-Melta]
Immolator [Twin-Linked Multi-Melta, Dozer Blade, Loud Hailer]
190pts each

2x Exorcist
[Storm Bolter]
130pts

Retributor Squad
[4x Heavy Bolter]
Retributor Superior [Storm Bolter]
105pts

Combined Arms Detachment
Militarum Tempestus Command Squad
Tempestor with Plasma Pistol
[4x Plasma Gun]
160pts

3x Militarum Tempestus Scions
[2x Plasmagun, 2x Scion
Tempestor [Plasma pistol]
115pts each

Valkyrie Squadron
[2x Multiple Rocket Pods, Multi-laser]
135pts

1849/1850pts

They're seeing how it plays out.

Eyes of the Gods Upon Us:
When playing with or AGAINST forces nominally aligned to Chaos, you can roll on the Chaos Boon table for any suitably impressive feat.

The best time it happened to me was my DarkMech vs Daemons, where my Dominus cut down a Daemon prince of Slaneesh and then ascended to Daemonhood himself.
Obviously, I put the upgrades into a roll on Heretek.

It's informal as hell, but seeing as even when playing against Chaos I seem to have a habit of allowing them free Boons whenever since I really like seeing what crazy stuff happens, they thought they should formalize it.

word bearers are better

If a model is listed as, "Temporarily unavailable" does that mean it actually is temporarily gone? Or is that the catch all GW uses even if a model is going OOP?

So a Space Marine kills a Daemon Prince, he's getting rewarded for it?

So looking at what genestealer cults got, basically all the pros of the imperial guard, with monster cc units that can get stuck in turn one, why are they afraid to make orks not garbage again? Seriously if you are going to have a faction that can assault turn one reliably, what excuse is there to keep orks down? Poor sales? Thats bullshit, half the ork stuff comes from other armies kits, unfairly inflating their numbers while artificially making orks look like underperformers.

It means what it says, what you're looking for is "Last chance"

If it's going OOP, it says No Longer Available, but they also usually put it into "Last chance to buy".

the skull hourglass is the symbol of impending doom

>tfw realize that my CAD could be a Blood Host detachment if I swapped out my terminators for possessed
But I hate Possessed. What's wrong with using marines in a KdK CAD?

Yep. Possibly with something horrific that will cause him to be purged, but what you do with a Boon is up to you, I suppose.

Also, that one Guard sarge who punched out a Terminator and gained ID. Fear the S3 AP- Instant Death!

they're overcosted space marines

Sadly you can't fire that many guns at once.

I do like how you can put plasma and melta guns on vehicles, though. Dark Angel Land Speeders?...

Gets a gift of the emperor? Instead of the ascending to demonhood why not have him ascent to a loving saint or a hero of the chapter?

Thanks. Looking into getting some Inquisition units and was worried I might have missed 'em.

the gods of chaos aren't friends, they're constantly warring against one another

you can damnwell bet they'd give rewards to someone if they knew it was a slight against one of their mortal enemies

But I like them.

i dont own any CSM, but i do own their codex, maybe i`ll adept that rule.

One time one of my IG Sergants killed 4 Bloodletters in a single round of combat, i guess he would have been allowed to roll on that table, too.

Another time one of my Primaris Psykers survived 3 perils of the warp in one phase, maybe Tzeentch was watching over him

walkers can fire all their weapons

The Made to Order ones?

so play them in traitor legion where they're undercosted space marines

Yeah I was looking through the 1d4chan about GSC the other day. They're absolutely bonkers. Orks are basically bottom tier, again, just like back in 3rd. Fuck GW sometimes, I swear.

Orks are two years old and done in the Precurion days on '14 by people who had no clue about Orks, the Ghazgkull update was naturally done by the same crew who then did a token effort.

So now we need to wait some more, or vandalise GW stores with green paint saying that we're "really fired up"