first for black templars work with psykers, xenos and number only 1000 battle brothers
Justin Barnes
Are Super-Heavy tanks really that poor compared to their Gargantuan Creature and Super-Heavy Walker counterparts?
I wanted to take another look at what they have to offer before writing them off prematurely.
Also, how are the Space Marine Super-Heavy tanks?
Ethan Cox
Nth for Black Templars don't follow the codex (source Codex: Space Marines 7th edition).
Ryder Smith
stop buying GW hobby tools reeeeeeee
Ryan Phillips
# Blood and Fire has Grimaldus stating they don't have a complete copy of the codex and after 10k years it's likely no one does.
Jordan Johnson
>Let's talk about how Orks should be buffed edition
Why not let's talk about how all shitty armies should be buffed. >Blood Angels >Grey Knights >Tyranids >Harlequins >Orks >Dark Eldar >CSM
Robert Young
tanks can't stomp
Lucas Kelly
1d4 chan please
Joshua Clark
no they're not (source pic related)
Elijah Phillips
So, Hoplite user from earlier. Found a pretty neat deal through China for some spears. Only thing is, I don't think I can magnetize these guys, can I? I'd have to do their heads, both arms, and their backpacks.
That being said, I doubt I'll want to. If anything, I'll keep them because they look badass.
I don't think I'll actually end up running Peltasts, though. Maybe if I was in a Tourney and against a bunch of other tryhard neckbeards? Even then, I still kinda feel bad. I think it's mostly that FW forgot that Rangers all have Relentless, so they can fire everything on the go. And then there's the bizarre parabolic shot. How does 20 small blast templates, even at S3, make a lick of sense in fairness?
It is completely AdMech though.
Ryan Davis
Yes nigger they're shit stop fucking asking. There's a reason Eldar will ally in Riptide wing but nobody bothers to ally in IG or SM tanks.
Luke Torres
Does anybody have that pic of Magnus with a LoC head that somebody was working on? It looked fucking choice and I wanna do it too.
Kevin Myers
>"But user Tyranids are in a good place right now"
Jayden Cooper
Nobody cares fuck off
Kevin Peterson
>Using a 2014 book to contradict the 2015 codex Maximum keks.
Lucas Roberts
Their 7th ed codex is more recent and contradicts it, therefore that particular bit of fluff is retconned.
Christopher Johnson
Should I put klaws or big choppas on nobz? They both look cool. of course the box comes only one kombiskorcha
amazon is the worst online store in the world, use anything else
Aiden Roberts
Klaws look cooler AND are the better option
Isaiah Cook
Stay away from Amazon, user. They usually run things at very close to retail.
Levi James
I get this a lot at my LGS
Cameron Sanders
user, if the tourney is against neckbeard tryharda, there are bound to be plenty of Eldar and Marine players. Unless you can field a WarConvo (which you should if the point limit is high enough) literally everything is fsir game. Sure, you might feel bad about stomping the occasional ork or nids player but those will be colateral damage.
Gabriel Barnes
wow the box actually comes with 5 klaws
I want at least one with the over the shoulder choppa though. He can take challenges or something I guess.
Bentley Brooks
>new codex doesn't contradict 1000 battle brothers at all
yeah, you sure showed me, I'm so sorry you're butt blasted over the fact that your mary-sue black marines don't number more than 1000 (and actually are much less than that now given how many died in fall of cadia)
Alexander Bailey
I've heard that argument too but when you get down to it it's a matter of spending more upfront for stuff or more in smaller chunks over a period of time.
We usually are the former to their latter.
Zachary Barnes
the over the shoulder big choppa always looks cool as shit. Oldfag Orkfag says do it and don't look back
Jaxon Parker
On a note of cruddace. he apperantly revealed that they do have in house play testing and occasionally call in well known pros to help. this was in 2012 mind you
James Gonzalez
>spending more up front
yeah it's not like they spend $200+ on boxes four times a year
Elijah Hernandez
Sorry for being a stickler for factual accuracy over an army I don't even play?
Seriously, I don't even play Marines and had to call bullshit on your retardation.
Hudson Sullivan
>Haha, my statement, that had no official confirmation in the first place and everything related to the topic contradicts it, wasn't denied yet! It must be true! Get fucked!
Sure showed us, pal.
Carson Bailey
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm working towards a Convocation anyway, like every AdMech player. It just means collecting the army like normal, and getting rewarded for it with broken ass rules. I wonder how many Peltasts I can fit in a Convocation list while also maintaining points cost. Let me see...
I can't wait.
Brandon Stewart
Not sure if Peltasts can even be run in a Convo. Need to use a Battle Maniple for the Skitarii part, not a Skitarii Maniple.
Sebastian Reed
True, that had gotten worse over the years. I just justify my purchases to myself by how much they cost divided by the number of hours I use them. Pennies an hour for enjoyment is a good deal in my opinion.
Jacob King
All hail Trazyn, uncontested Pokémaster of the 41st Millennium
Ayden Barnes
it's settled
I will post pics of my freebooter orks once they are built.
Debating also to attach them to the base or not before or after painting. and don't worry I have some 32mm bases for them
Jordan Lopez
None - you have to use a Battle Maniple.
Hudson Cruz
Trollzyn.
Eli Taylor
My brother has been a fan of the 40k universe and stuff like Dawn of War for years and always had a huge boner for Necrons. I kept telling him to just get himself a small set of them as decoration if nothing else, but he didn't want to "spend so much money on it and also have to paint it with no experience" (I even offered him to paint them in his stead). Now I've convinced 2 of his best friends to also start the game.
Meanwhile, he bought himself a new PC for 2 grand 2 years ago and an HTC Vive that he uses once every few months last year.
Jonathan Jackson
So what's the follows thing YOUR DUDES have done lately Veeky Forums?
Samuel Evans
Try again, I'm not sure what you're trying to ask.
Nathan Diaz
Best Necron.
Owen Torres
Yup, just double checked the math. No dice. Maybe if I took minimum squad size for the dunecrawlers and whatnot or took a shittier knight, but that's hardly worth it. Ah well.
Christopher Lewis
What have MY DUDES done lately? My Draigo got turned into a Herald of Tzeentch. That's what my dudes did. Failed the 3d6 warpstorm LD check.
Brandon Hill
Best xeno period
Bentley Adams
Burning the midnight oil, working on my first Vostroyan.
Elijah Cox
>not official
ITT: GW ISN'T THE OFFICIAL SOURCE OF 40K CANON
Anthony Smith
What cool shit has your army done in game, to?
Lincoln Martinez
It's really not a point issue, it's a "literally not allowed as part of War Convocation" issue, since all your Skitarii units are the ones allowed in a Battle Maniple, which is one of every Codex unit.
Cooper Rodriguez
draigo isn't YOUR DUDE though, he's games workshop's dude
Owen Fisher
Nearly tabled some Corsairs, while losing almost nothing.
Julian Parker
My Emperor's Champion was killed in a duel with Pask after my Templars broke his tank.
Colton Murphy
sapped my will to live
Matthew Foster
>a ty maties
Parker Sanchez
oldfag again. I've always had the best results with before, it helps to bond more strongly to the base, it makes it easier to paint quickly (stuck on a cork with putty) and the splashing on the base get's covered up when it's done.
The only ones i do off the base are the HQ's because i like doing cool bases for them (rubble , guardsmen, etc)
Carson Robinson
New player, back from my first couple of non-deathwatch games playing 750 point Orks at my FLGS.
Won a very close game against Slamanders by keeping my boys in their face long enough to get some use out of my killa kans, but my match against the Tau saw me pretty thoroughly trounced.
Orks have a much better job keeping up with other codexes at lower point costs, from what I've seen and played, but the Tau are definitely an exception to that if I've been having the typical experience of playing against them. I don't think I've ever seen 20 boys go off the field as quick as when those twin-linked flying disc things opened up on me. It was a slaughter, but I still had fun.
I'm not sure what I can do to retaliate next round, but more boys in trukks and less boys blobs foot slogging seems like it might be the solution. Either way, I'll keep listbuilding and hope I fare a bit better next week!
Dylan Richardson
They've taken too damn long to come in the mail, leaving me restless and itching to start actually DOING SOMETHING WITH THIS HOBBY DAMNIT.
Would it be bizarre to do progress reports in the general?
Oh I know, I was seeing if I could run a separate skeleton Skitarii Maniple and fit them, but even then it's not worth it.
David Reyes
It's safe to say that codices overrule other media, especially if they're more recent.
Stop trying to bait Templars players.
Charles Gutierrez
nothing is overruling 1000 templars
Gabriel King
I had 2 venoms loaded with kabalite warriors drop a Dreadknight.
Jeremiah Morris
>Orks have a much better job keeping up with other codexes at lower point costs
They can also do better in extremely large points levels.
Nathan Taylor
Don't buy the codex or the rulebook friendo. Just download them. Unless you really prefer physical books for some reason. Also ArmyPainter makes a set that includes all of that together. Look for that.
Joseph White
>Blood Angels SM formations and a black rage rule that makes them Fearless and give them FNP when under stress. >Grey Knights Give them an additional attack and drastically lower the cost of their bad units. >Tyranids Halve cost or give insane formations that give you infinite Gaunts and Scout for everything. >Harlequins 4+ Invul save. It makes no sense that Harlequins can exist for a long period of time given that every one of their battles is a suicide mission. >Orks Slightly lower cost and better mob rule. >Dark Eldar Venoms grant invul saves to everyone within 6", Raiders and Ravagers grant Cover Saves to everyone within 6". >CSM Slightly stronger formations. Daemon infused weapons to compete with grav.
Luis Hernandez
I'm impressed your autism went far enough to do that in order to tell me that it's a sub-division.
Saying things from a different branch with different writing staff and sometimes in themselves contradictory books counts as official lore confirmation would be like saying that Forgeworld models count as actual official Games Workshop models and are made by them. Just because Forge World makes a Manta for Tau and Titans for Marines doesn't make all of those units legal in Games Workshop tournements and still needs to be clarified if they are allowed or not.
Brayden Baker
Warp dust is a hell of a drug.
What were you playing?
Pask got mad that you broke his toys, eh?
Been there, doing that. Been trying to find a new army project myself.
Colton Miller
... OK? You're still just trying to bait people who play a certain faction. You're motives seem to simply be the will to be an irritating cunt.
Asher Nelson
>novels that are based on information found from the source material is more valid than the source material
Adrian Harris
>make all of those units legal in Games Workshop tournements and still needs to be clarified if they are allowed or not.
the only tournaments which GW runs (the only games workshop tournaments) are run at warhammer world and allow all forgeworld
Jaxon Taylor
It was my Space Marines. It didnt help that he had a lot of his dudes fail Difficult Terrain tests and die.
Elijah Bennett
I've done it both ways before, and both seem to have their advantages. Hard to say which I actually prefer really.
Luke Lewis
I struggle reading off a screen for long tracks of time, so physical is easier. and I think it's about £10 dearer, but I suppose thats worth it to get it all at once?
Henry White
> >Pask got mad that you broke his toys, eh?
Apparently so. His vengeance was short lived, however, as my Chaplain killed him next turn.
Jonathan Davis
Yeah, Space Pirate Elves need to be mobile and not dead after all.
Nathan Carter
You could just download the epubs up in the mega for free, user.
Cameron Murphy
And it gives plastic glue AND superglue, and basing glue. But yeah, otherwise it's the same stuff just all in one box.
Jonathan Baker
The wrath of mortal man is nothing compared to that of an Astartes.
Christopher Smith
>he apperantly revealed that they do have in house play testing and occasionally call in well known pros to help
>one single employee releasing a rumour that a games company actually play tests their games >same employee believes math is opinion and singlehandedly killed the company's stock but still has a job >same employee therefore proves his work is good because obviously, the play testers would have said something if it wasn't!
Nice try, Crud.
Next you'll tell me GW has editors and proofreaders, or that codex creep doesn't exist.
Julian Brown
>"heh kid" the post
Joshua Davis
>this person wrote two books >but only one of them is canon
Benjamin Lopez
As people said before, skip the rulebooks. Just download them online. If you end up really liking the hobby (I'm assuming you're new) then you can consider owning them.
Are you getting 20% off retail there? I don't know the Euro prices on those things.
Chase Harris
Did trollzyn trick the imperium into blowing up cadia on purpose?
Elijah Moore
>tfw friend was foolish enough to let his Cawl accept my Emperor's Champion's challenge in test game >tfw land 3 6s
I came a little.
William Cooper
Not him, but is there a reason why half the pdfs in the OP links are pure shit? It's like someone transcribed each codex into notepad, stripped all the pictures, formatting, and page numbers, and hoped it would be acceptable.
Are you telling me this is what GW is unironically selling, or did something just go horribly wrong?
Luke Davis
Indeed.
Camden White
Lost. Badly. Ork army. Oh, did you mean my tyranid army? Nothing, because they're banished to the shelf.
Jordan Davis
He was trying to be a hero for once....So likely not.
Aaron Brown
Ooooohhhhh damn son.
Brody Smith
Nah, he needs Cadia to stick unless he wants Abaddon to be the new Emperor and fuck over Chaos.
Chase Collins
What the fuck do you think epubs look like?
Levi Sullivan
open the epubs in readium, for chrome
Aiden Martin
Abaddon destroyed Cadia not the pylons.
Ian Bell
That was the first time in a long while that I wasn't terribly disappointed by my non-formation Black Templars.
This Castellans detachment is really feeling good so far. Is there a single reason why the Champion isn't allowed in the Wrathful Crusade? I get that it's a generic Marshal but every crusade has an Emperor's Champion as well.
Adam Moore
Wasn't he just there to kidnap people?
Christian Bailey
A lone guardsman survived to hold an objective against Chaos Termies for 2 turns.
He got promoted to Sergeant and got a name. Sergeant Willem Hove.