>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list. mtgcommander.net
>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices. tappedout.net
>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck. mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet. edhrec.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity. manabasecrafter.com/
>Tell me about your Local Gamestore Well there's two. One that I love and I go to as often as I can, but has events every night so they can't host our EDH getogethers
Store number 2 is much larger, has a lot more open tables and runs events only a few days a week, but they only really stock cards for standard, and treat us like a huge inconvenience for asking to look at any of their older binders.
We're probably just going to move our EDH games to someone's house given none of us really like it at the second store.
Ryder Perez
Repostin my Daxos list from last thread for any suggestions people might have.
Best Commander for a Mono Black Big Mana deck? Kind of a Swamp matters theme with lots of artifacts.
Erebos or someone else? For the longest time I used Maga, Traitor to Mortals but he's kinda boring and his name sucks now.
Brayden Price
>Daxos of Meletis Barf. Things are looking pretty good, but that commander makes me irrationally mad. Throw in as much ramp as you can, to cast your opponent's deck back at them.
Evan Baker
Erebos for sure, never hurts to have more card draw
Justin Taylor
besides mana rocks, what cards does UW have that ramp?
Leo Murphy
Maga's name is great. Don't tell me you're one of those trump fags who can't handle light hearted humor.
Anyways, the best big black is the one eyed.
Anthony Garcia
>Maga's name is great. Don't tell me you're one of those trump fags who can't handle light hearted humor.
Quite the opposite. We just have some real life MAGA dudes at our LGS and well let's just say they make stupiud comments but honestly I could care less but it was time to find a new commander anyways.
Hunter Cooper
And just to be clear, maga would be just as funny if it was a white card called maga, the plains last hope.
Jaxson Bailey
Fair enough. I highly recommend the one eyed then. You use your mana to cast spells over and over again.
Or Toshiro, for mono black spell slinger, my personal favorite.
Noah Campbell
>Maga sucks >Trump fags Oh man, I can't believe the libtard tears spread as far as my /edhg/.
Ian Morales
So I have a friend who wants to get into Magic. The problem is, he's never played before, and I only have EDH decks set up. I was going to build two relatively straight forward decks so I could teach him the basics.
If I were to build a monogreen and a monoblack deck on an extreme budget, what sorts of things should I remember to include? I was going to go through my commons/uncommons and cherry pick a few obvious strategies. I a discard theme for the black one could be pretty powerful on a budget, and a stompy ramp theme for the green one could be also be good, but how do I balance them to the same power level?
James Johnson
Yeah I have him on my radar but the price and especially the flavour of a "real" Chinese person kinda throw me off. Would love a functional reprint at 3BB but that's a pipedream I guess.
Probably going with Erebos. Foil one should look nice.
Cooper Sullivan
Assuming you don't suck at deckbuilding, just shuffle up the edh decks and play them without edh rules.
No need to dumb it down further.
Lincoln Jenkins
>but how do I balance them to the same power level? Play them against each other by yourself. Be sure not to pick a favourite and always choose the best option for every step. Kinda autistic but it works for me. Made 5 monocolour decks for my friends and tested them the same way. Each one focuses on the colours advantages and showcases it's gameplay. Got them hooked and now I have a new playgroup. Same could work for Commander but deckbuilding would be a little more complex.
Aaron Russell
In my experience Erebos is pretty insane with all the mana doublers, etc
Make sure you have a fair amount of lifegain though, otherwise you can accidentally die to manlands and haste creatures coming out of nowhere despite all your removal and board wipes
Juan Hall
I have a friend who's sort of new-ish at EDH, and he said today that he wants to build a "competitive" EDH deck, preferably UG. I recommended a lot of cancer to him but his mind appears to be set on Leovold. I'd like to know what you think the odds of Leovold getting banned here. Turn 2 Leovold into turn 3 Windfall / Day's Undoing / Puzzle Box sounds like it would very quickly put him on the RC's shitlist.
If you think the card is somewhat safe from a ban, I'll help him build the most cancerous Leovold deck imaginable.
Julian Hall
Leovold is soooooo broken, and not just broken (other legal commanders are broken), but extremely unfun to play against
That said I doubt he'll be banned, because as I said, there are lots of broken commanders and cards that aren't banned
Retarded Sheldon has fucking cyc rift on his "watchlist" so I doubt this is even on his radar
Josiah Rogers
>Make sure you have a fair amount of lifegain though That's a good advice. I love trading life for cards a little too much and has been my demise in the past. What would you recommend besides the obvious ones like Exsanguinate, Consuming Vapors, Blood Tithe etc? Recurring lifegain would be the best I think.
Chase Sanders
>Leovold is soooooo broken, and not just broken (other legal commanders are broken), but extremely unfun to play against To be honest, I'd rather play against Leovold than something like Derevi.
Isaiah Brooks
See, I get that the deck building is going to be a pain in the ass, but after introducing him to the mechanics, I was hoping to convince him to get a precon, then slowly upgrade it.
Which commanders do you think personify their respective colours? I was thinking Polukranos could be pretty fun with a ramp package and some cheap fatties, while Endrek Sahr could make a pretty fun, albeit generic, monoblack deck.
When you teach new players, are there any mechanics you emphasize?
Anthony Collins
There's no way he isn't going to be banned.
While things have deserved to be banned for a long time, Leovold causes immense devastation, even on a budget. It's just a matter of time before he starts dominating metas, and Sheldon sees one in his playgroup, then he's going to be banned right away, along with Doubling Season.
Juan Nelson
Why? What is fun about having no cards in hand? What is fun about finally having an opener with 1-2 mana removal that can stop his turn 3 wombo combo only to draw him a card with said removal, then have that removal countered, THEN discard your hand
there's still a bunch of nonland permanents derevi needs in play to really lock everybody down, much more room for interaction, although I agree Derevi is frustrating too
Landon Green
At least you can interact profitably with what Leovold is doing. Remove him in response to a Windfall and if he doesn't win a counter war over this, the extra card he drew is irrelevant and you get to wheel your hand (negating the cost of spending a removal spell). And if he does resolve his wheel effect with Leovold in play, then you can concede. Game's over, better luck next time.
Derevi takes more work to lock the opponent but she's just so fucking hard to stop and frustrating to try to interact with.
i had a guy scoop in response to me swordsing his leovold when he windfalled
derevi is honestly the only commander i'd have banned completely. like, wotc just admit you made a mistake and tell people they can't play that shitty bird anymore
>card costs 2.5 mana >casting removal costs around 2 mana >combined, you spend 4.5 mana to kill derevi >playing derevi from the command zone costs 4 mana (no card has to be spent) >pretty much no matter what, you will have misplayed if you kill derevi
fucking kill yourself wotc
Logan Taylor
>Act of Aggression / Ray of Command a Leovold in response to a wheel HNNNNNNNG
Anthony Carter
I understand the frustration, but why are you so salty? There are lots of ways to remove it, it's just unfortunate that they happen to be in Derevi's colours.
Benjamin Harris
>letting him counter you back
Jackson Perry
because i shouldn't have to fill my deck with stupid ass anti-derevi (of which there are like 5) cards just because wotc is manned by morons
Angel Baker
Have you read his post? He's not complaining that he can't remove Derevi, only that removing Derevi is generally a misplay because this fucker is coming back with an instant speed activated ability that isn't subjected to the commander tax whenever she wants.
I miss tucking, I really fucking do.
Aiden Hill
I like Word of Seizing in theory but it's just way too slow for me in practice. I guess that will usually depend on your meta and what you play against.
Gavin Rodriguez
Maralen looks so good
Nathaniel Fisher
Can't people just tutor up removal if they're not complete retards? It strikes me as the same type of card as Rhystic Study, where it's only good if you're playing against idiots.
Angel Rivera
>put prototype deck on tappedout >get some comments >seriously some of the worst advice ive ever seen it's not even like they are suggesting things that might be ok it's not even CLOSE
Do Derevi players really put it into play as soon as they can for you to have to kill it?
Brody Wright
>of which there are like 5 Darksteel mutation, Ixidron, Eidolon of Rhetoric, Nevermore, Prison Term, Arcane Labratory, Arrest. The rest are more niche, along the lines of control magic, vedalken shackles, and authority of the council/things that make it enter tapped, but I do see your point.
Jeremiah Fisher
Holy shit I thought you were exaggerating. This is fucking baffling.
Jayden White
I just tutor up 1 CMC removal every time someone casts her.
Your wrong about rhystic though. That card is very strong even if everyone pays the one. Compare it to other taxing effects, it's the lowest CMC one there is and the choice given isn't real.
Levi Baker
# Sundial of the infinite lets you keep the tokens. Illusionist's bracers and rings of brighthearth can let you copy his ability.
Kayden Roberts
>Your wrong about rhystic though. That card is very strong even if everyone pays the one. True enough. It's good even if everyone pays, it's only completely busted if no one pays.
Lucas Lopez
get wurmcoil engine and duplicant and poop on your friends make sure you tell them that "feldon isnt even that good LOL"
Any suggestions for my Rishkar deck? I think this guy is secretly insane
Robert Gomez
I'm looking to make a skeleton tribal deck with pic related at the helm. Are there any good card combos that would let me infinitely untap Skeleton Ship to rain volleys of -1/-1 counters upon my calcium-deficient opponents? I don't have any experience with infinite untapping outside of Green.
Jace Reyes
Are you high? Only dark steel mutation, ixidron, and control magic effects do anything against derevi.
You do realize you use his activated ability from the command zone (so no prison term), he doesn't need to be cast (so I don't know what the fuck your thinking with nevermore or arcane lab) and you want him on the field for his triggered ability, or you have something like crystal shard+winter orb set up for a lock (returning the bird to Cz instead of hand)
Luis Wood
What is the card?
David Allen
I don't know if this is flavor of the month bullshit, but I've grown to like Arjun some so I decided to build a deck around him. Tell me what you guys think of my build.
Easiest way is staff of domination with infinite mana, gained any number of ways.
Jeremiah Edwards
Voidstone Gargoyle, Pithing Needle
:^)
Nathaniel Walker
>there's cheeky dolphin jumping out on the left and the skeltals are riding fucking sea turtles
that card just got a lot cooler in my book
Cameron Martinez
That's better user.
But you can still cast derevi with the needle out.
Elijah Hernandez
>Which commanders do you think personify their respective colours?
>White: Avacyn >Blue: Arcanis or Teferi (both versions) >Black: Erebos >Red: Krenko or Jaya >Green: Molimo or Omnath
That's just from memory.
>When you teach new players, are there any mechanics you emphasize? Each colour's strenghts and weaknesses so they get a feel for it. Let them find out what they like. There is always a Dragon Fire Fag and an Edgy Demon Summoner in my experience.
Andrew Clark
>derevi player actually paying commander tax
lolnope, they'll just remove the needle
Colton Green
Meddling Mage
:^P
Aaron Sanders
>Pithing Needle why would a pissing needle help?
Gavin Diaz
I want to run Derevi just so I can Skybind with Arbiter of the Ideal, should I rather use Roon? Maybe Rubinia because she's pretty
Dylan Thomas
>Edgy Demon Summoner Oh, that was me. I still have a deck that's filled with edgy nonsense and titty mice.
You know what, I could build Arcanis, Erebos, and Grenzo, Havoc Raiser. I'll just use distinctly t2 cards, build them with a very easy curve, use only basic lands, and let them get a feel for what each deck is going to offer. After that, if he's still interested, I figure I can let him use some of my more straight forward decks.
Thanks user, I appreciate it.
Nathaniel Lee
Staff of Domination, as well as a few small creatures like Horseshoe Crab
Look a Kraj lists, those are the king of tap manipulation
Cameron Long
>want to build yidris >all cards on EDHrec are pretty much wheels
I didn't want to build/play nekusar. Guess I gotta do this on my own
Chase Hall
it forces derevi players to pay commander tax
Dominic Parker
>Rhystic study is only good against idiots
M8 if there was a 3 mana enchantment that said "your opponents spells cost 1 more to cast", it would be super strong, like the best tax effect ever
Camden Foster
>If there was a 3 mana enchantment that said "your opponents spells cost 1 more to cast", it would be super strong, like the best tax effect ever
Would you settle for a creature?
Andrew Green
That effects you too, and it's a lot more easily removed then a enchantment.
Jacob Gonzalez
Not sure what you're trying to say here
Aaron Wright
I know. It's incredible. My play group is filled with people who poop on me, and then I see people like that.
Aaron Long
So if you run a creatures only deck, your vryn wingmare is ALMOST as good for you as Rhystic study is for every deck, no restrictions whatsoever
Cool
Daniel Gomez
>Effect hurts you too >Doesn't work against creatures >More vulnerable than rhystic.
I'm not sure if you understand what you are talking about.
Adam Thomas
Don't worry about it, you're far too stupid to follow this conversation.
Does anyone have experience building Grenzo, Havoc Raiser? I have a Kiki-Jiki I'm not using, and I was also wondering if there are any shenanigans I can pull off.
Josiah Peterson
wasted trips
rhystic and wingmare are nowhere near comparable in power
Ian Nguyen
>M8 if there was a 3 mana enchantment that said "your opponents spells cost 1 more to cast", it would be super strong, like the best tax effect ever It would be strictly better than Rhystic Study in theory. But in practice, against the type of retards that play EDH, it would end up being worse. Because the faggots that play EDH don't understand that it's generally correct to pay the 1. I've seen players refuse to pay 1 just to BLUFF a counterspell or removal. Like seriously, they repeatedly let the Rhystic player draw cards for free, and when I sac a Mindslicer later on, I see they were sitting on lands and sorceries.
That's what I meant when I said Rhystic Study is good against idiots.
Mason Long
>creatures are more vulnerable than artifacts/enchantments
This shit needs to stop, you fucking idiots always go on how every nonblack/hexproof dies to doom blade and act like disenchant/naturalize aren't a thing. Fuck off
John Foster
That's because you're not using the advanced filters. Say, if you wanted to play Yidris storm, search for decks that use Mind's Desire/Grapeshot/Whatever the fuck storm uses
Nolan Jackson
What do I look like, a poster on the Modern thread?
Connor Morales
So hey, /edhg/, why did this not see more play? And is it bad in EDH?
Chase Evans
Completely, objectively wrong.
Every deck prepares for creatures, and has multiple methods of dealing with creatures, not including combat. Creatures are the second most fragile type, followed closely by artifact creatures. Enchantment removal may be excellent, if you're running white or green. Otherwise? Enchantments tend to stick for a lot longer.
Matthew Sanchez
no one is saying artifacts/enchantments are impervious to removal numbnuts, but when you are comparing the permanent types, creatures are far easier to remove than artifacts/enchantments
Evan Hernandez
I've been working towards the stupidest/most autistic deck for about half a year, and I finally hit enough lands to put it together.
When I started building this deck, I set myself two rules:
>1: ONLY foil cards >2: No purchasing cards, everything needs to be obtained through trades
Probably wouldn't have taken so damn long, if I hadn't decided that this deck was going to be colorless.
Enjoy the shiny badness that is the pile of cards I managed to assemble.
Oliver Long
Double strikan, extra combatan, cascade cascade cascade cascade
Jeremiah Carter
what did you trade for the foil karn?
Jack Myers
Do you not realize that red, black and blue have no way to destroy enchantments on the battlefield outside of sinking like 7 mana into colorless removal and lol chaos warp.
Every color can get rid of creatures though.
Inb4 you start spouting bullshit about only 5 color decks being viable.
Xavier Roberts
>reveal something really spicy >table turns on you and kills you thats why, my friend
Andrew Bell
>only green and white can deal with enchantments
You are fucking stupid
Joseph Bailey
>everything traded >foil karn
jesus
Christopher Gutierrez
Fucking ages ago so I don't remember, I got it when the foil karn was at like $40.
Joseph Parker
That's not what he said. Reading comprehension.
Mason Rivera
>numerous board wipes in several colors >creature removal rampant in most colors >creatures also vulnerable to damage effects whereas artifacts/enchantments are not
Yeah, no. Not to mention, red, blue, and black can't do shit to destroy enchantments, and black and blue can't do shit to destroy artifacts.
