How would you make a God of Order a villain? What sort of interesting powers would this god have?

How would you make a God of Order a villain? What sort of interesting powers would this god have?

We know what Chaos would look like as a villain, but what battle powers would a Lawful, Orderly God have on his own?

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Jyggalag from TES or the God-Machine from CofD come to mind.

It commands all things to ascribe to the natural order of things, and anything beyond that it views as heresy. Invention is a crime, humans are intended to be prey to the larger species, and it will empower things to return the unnatural to the natural order of things, ie, that's a pretty nice skyscraper you have there. Shame this once lion turned kaiju beast happens to be walking this way.

Anything that isn't perfectly orderly has to die. Planets are not perfectly orderly. Time to terraform!

People are not perfectly orderly, but everyone is equal in death. Time to kill! Send angels of gold and silver to make it happen.

Everything must follow the order. Anything chaotic must be destroyed. Nothing can upset the order. No matter how hideous the deed, it will be done if preserving order demands it. No possibility for advancement or freedom. Only order.

Make it specifically pissed about the party for one reason or another. Having a group of people who, all things considered, should've died long ago is going against the order of things, is it not? Maybe make it forsee that the party will create some kind of great imbalance in the future, and want to fix it.

First, presumably he'd just sent celestial emissaries telling the party that they should stop this disorderly business right now and go home to be family men.

Fighting off the emissaries is probably the next step, and consider that most people would think that "Band of heavily armed people who are hated by a god who represents peace and order and are killing angels left and right" probably don't sound like nice folk. Not only have them fighting the God himself, but his church.

Read up about Ashera from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn.

She essentially wants to wipe the planet clean because humans and beast races keep going to war with one another like they have a quota to meet. The party teams up with the goddess of chaos to make sure that doesnt happen

This is a pivotal theme of the SMT games. Give them a look, they've got some impressive diversity regarding God-of-Order types.

fascism

How about like the Auditors of Reality, except rolled into one consciousness?

It's the universe's accountant, and would very much prefer if life were to stop existing.
The bookkeeping on lifeless rocks is so much easier you know.
In the shorter term they're also against chaotic things like imagination and stories

>Life is a crime! The sentence is DEATH!

Overzealousness.

ALL evil must be purged, no matter what form they take.

The Star Father from that (admittedly pretty well written) fanfic "Warhammer 50k: The Shape of the Nightmare to Come" seems like it would fit being 'evil' in most cases while bringing order

Push order to it's most autistic extreme. Everyone needs to live, sleep, eat and die at epecific time and place. No exceptions. Absolute uniformity in everything. Big Brother as a deity basicly.

Perfect order can mean no progress. If anyone tried to do new things the God and its minions smite them etc.

People want to do things differently so rise up against God.

Irony is once they do the new things someone creates a terrible weapon and unleashes it to kill Order God and plunges the world into war.

Too much of anything is a bad thing.
As a powerful incarnation of the divine and a at first thought just goal the god would have a following and strength in powerful nations as order begets strength.
But order demands uniform in all things. Difference in culture would be seen as heretical among her followers.
That's why people would fight it's force. To retain their sense of self. Bit edgy but a powerful reason to oppose it's complete rule.
Discord has it's place if only to give freedom to the world and counter stagnation.

>God of Order
>humanoids are chaotic by nature
>time to purge

So ive actually had an idea for a god like this.

A former benevolent AI that was designed to lead humanity and end wars, the setting itself is kinda Nausicaa esque in the sense that its a post apocalytic fantasy setting inspired by the former, endless legend a couple more.

The problem is said AI has now been uploaded to an Orbital battle station and can only communicate through some old commuication arrays, which priests take for the word of god, but due to his inability to realy do anything about the state of the world the AI went nuts and when the world is unsatisfactory for too long it has a tendency of nuking it, so far it has done that five times.

Hextor has been there since Greyhawk.

This. Chaos is necessary for creation, so a deity of Order would need to either be a primordial force directly and perhaps equally matched against Chaos, or spring from a desperate mortal desire for secure order in the face of chaotic danger.

So basically fascism!

Time's Master Trilogy and it's Sequel Trilogy hd order as the villains.

Go read it.

You know what's perfectly ordered and non-chaotic? Stagnation.

It determines that organic life is too disorderly.
Time to burn the world to a perfect, pristine white void.

Easy.

Do you know what the ultimate form of law is?
A universe without entropy.
Which means either a singularity of infinite density contained in an infinitely small point, or an infinite large space contained with absolutely nothing.

Even just existing increases entropy. Just existing increases Chaos.

God of Order trying to destroy the universe because it's too chaotic is like one of the most common fantasy tropes.

The god of order loves to rearrange matter into perfectly repeating geometric patterns.

What are you talking about, Son of Man?
Law is always the good guys.

It's like you never played Serpent's Isle. I feel old now.

The God of Order seeks to lock all atomic particles into a state of perfect, geometric stillness.

The Goddess of Chaos seeks to dissolve all atomic bonds so that the universe is a perfectly Chaotic field of freely moving atomic particles.

Life exists under the protective eye of the long-suffering God of Molecular Physics and Demigoddess of Chemistry.

The ultimate order is nothingness. If nothing exists then nothing can disturb the order. Existence itself is chaotic as it divides what is and what isn't.

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Perfect order is stagnation. Stagnation is the opposite of evolution. Thus all the individuals who want to change or change anything go against god, willing or not

The God's order is at such a high level that man can't understand why terrible things happen to them.

>Why is there a meteor heading towards our planet? What have we done to anger you?
>Nothing, that meteor is just supposed to hit that planet in a couple of days.
>But why? We live here.
>To knock it off its orbit and eventually make it spiral into that star.
>That's horrifying. Don't our prayers mean anything to you?
>Not beyond what they're prescribed, and you've ceased to hold any relevance beyond your own destruction for the order of the universe to continue unobstructed. Nothing personal, but this plan has been in the making for several billion years. Your star wasn't even a thing yet.

The God of Order is isn't on the spectrum, he IS the spectrum.

Read some Moorcock.

Follow Magic: The Gathering's example:

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Lord Business from the Lego Movie

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Free will leads to choice.
Choice leads to circumstance.
Circumstance leads to chaos.
I am the end of chaos.

He was once a man so autistically obsessed with immaculate perfection, order, logic and reason etc that the chaotic incomprehensible sheer senseless nature of the universe triggered him so badly that he apotheosized

He's not a god of an objectively true order, but rather a god of order as perceived by a human

A real pain in the ass and nobody likes him
Kind of a That Guy god, tries to force his shitty headcanon of "what the world should be" on everybody

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>There is no unified order in the world as different nations try to screw each other, innocents die (See: Syria).
>Powerful Law guy decides to conquer the world and rule selflessly.
>Nations don't give and send their armies against him.
>Powerful Law guy starts killing armies. Becomes villain.

Known as the guillotine of the gods. Enforces gods will onto all who oppose.
Or, make a crazy god of OCD, where everything must be perfect and orderly.

make chaos seem all peacefull and chill.
im thinking something like a fusion between chinese Taoism and Nergal.
nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky senpai ;^)

Oh, I was just reading a physics book that describes entropy. It gives me an idea.

Entropy, as a quantifiable definition, is any amount of measurable disorder ('chaos'). The example from the book was a cluttered desk (high entropy) vs an orderly one (low entropy). The tricky part is, even if you clean your cluttered desk, you still increase the total entropy by agitating air molecules, dropping hairs, breathing moisture, expending heat, etc. Any action, no matter how small, always attributes to the overall entropy, or chaos, of an object.

In fantasy terms, I can imagine this translating to the God of Order behaving harshly towards minor disorderly practices when he's run out of Big Shit to worry about.

Celestial DMV, and the entire good pantheon is waiting in line filling out forms so they can drive their divine chariots.

Naturally, this leaves the chaotic deities unsupervised and unopposed.

You're not really Him, imposter!

Sup?

Like the auditors from Discworld.

"Reality is messy. Ill just clean it up so that this vaccum is nice and orderly."

In Tribe 8, the goddess (well aspect of a goddess, but still for all intents and purposes a goddess) of order/law/truth is one of the biggest villains.

During the war between their pantheon and their evil competitors, she came to the conclusion that total victory would be impossible unless they pretty much destroyed everything they were fighting for.

So she made a deal with the enemy where she would deliver one of the gods that was making the most trouble for them, and they would turn on their own leader and then retreat to an agreed upon boundary. Also as part of the deal, she delivers a certain number of mortals to them on a regular basis.

Having to hide the truth of the betrayal is eating her up inside so she's gotten really self righteous and prone to coming down hard on those who question her authority or come close to uncovering the truth.

ever heard of the (Shin) Megami Tensei games?
order is always viewed as something, what brings peace, and culture, but is also against free will

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Reminder that executing malevolent prisoners is Lawful Good.
Reminder that it's extra good to convert them to good before killing them.
t. Gygax

The morally ambiguous party keeps looting abandoned temples. Temples if a vengeful god.

These plus the chapters in "60k: The Age of Dusk" make for a pretty darn perfect 'evil' god of order.