NCA - nocoiners anonymous

>tfw you missed out on LITERALLY the biggest investment opportunity of your lifetime.

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Bitcoin, 5 years ago

>tfw investing in shitcoins hoping for 10-20x returns when they used to be 100-1000x
how do you deal with this?

Yea so get in on the ground floor a project that has a 10000% potential. Deeponion got 15thousand retweets to get on kucoin today

The day I decided to even get into this game was the day bitcoin spiked. Sucks

I guess we are two then. I have a few spare bucks I can throw into this, always been a lurker and was scared because the posts about success are much fewer than the ones with pink wojaks.
Now I'm going for the dumb question, that resumes what I was planning to do with my entrance on crypto.
Isn't it better to just buy the absolute shitcoin, just like the most new and cheapest one, and hold it till it gets bigger? Or do shitcoins tend to die too often?
I'm talking about biggest gains possible, since I'll be investing like 300 bucks.

Your lifetime? Human history pal. The first shall be last and the last shall be first

STOP MAKING ME FEEL WORSE

>invested a lot in regular stocks instead of crypto
>can't withdraw until januray due to tax related reasons
>made 10x the profit of regular stocks by investing 100€ in crypto

How much do you guys think BTC can grow?

it's still going up bro

No idea. I never imagined it would even get to 5k

It's not quite over yet but there's no doubt you missed the boat. Still, even though crypto was probably the biggest opportunity for easy money in history it doesn't mean you can't become rich yet, it just means you'll have to work hard for it and hope you're one of 0.0001% lucky enough to actually make it big.

10-20x returns are something you should be grateful for user.

Don't be greedy.

Wait, you guys do realize this is just the beginning right?

Normies haven't even gotten into alts yet

TFW you were a coiner, but became a no-coiner because of margin trading.
I'm eating dry bread everyday since I've lost the last of my stack 2 weeks ago.

Yes they have. They're listed on yahoo now ffs,

2018 will be the year that dapps really start to take off and there will be a lot of easy money in tons of ERC20 tokens.

Like, damn. There's probably several $100MM market cap coins that could reach $10B by mid-2019. That's 100x returns.

>tfw you missed out on LITERALLY the biggest investment opportunity of your lifetime
This could be applied to any investment, don't worry about it

>mfw everyday I remember how I threw away 300 bitcoins in 2010 because I thought it was some stupid /b/ meme

You threw away >500k

Rip

you would only have 20 or 30x, tons of coins can provided that from here

Bitcoin has gone up 100000x since the time it was just 10 cents.

sooooo many people are rich now

too bad you missed out, user

Not much more than 5 million.

Averge person dont read no yahoo finance.

>implying if you bought in at $10 you wouldnt sell at $100

not since 5 years ago like OP said, since MT gox they have always been at least a few hundred dollars

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come buy some coin you autists
made 30% gains twice today on these calls

It can reach six figures. The display we seen this year is that the sky is the limit when it comes to crypto

I learned an expensive lesson this year. If you find a risk that could make you 400x your money, take it.

I didn't bet on Trump when the odds were 400:1 and I was sure he'd win. Then he won and I looked at bitcoin at $1000, and decided that it was too expensive and too late to get in on it. Only finally got in a few months ago when my normie dad wanted bitcoin to buy weed with.

>missed out
Don't let this be you when you STILL don't buy in

Unless you were going to get rich, who gives a fuck? I turned $1000 into $7000. Do I care? No, because that's a fucking piddling amount of money.

>can make easy 20-200% on your cash, DAILY
>people pretend like now isn't the perfect time to make normie money

If you just choose one shitcoin, your odds will not be very good

Even if lots of coins end up doing 2x-3x at some point, most will fall again and a lot of them stay down. You gotta catch a good coin at the right time if you want those higher gains, which I suppose is what you want, given your low budget

You didn't. There are constant opportunities like that with futures transactions or you can just go to a casino.
Of course if you're not a complete idiot you buy index funds instead, and the same goes for 10 years ago.

>heard about BTC 5 years ago
>didn't bother to understand it
>hear about it again on Veeky Forums 2 years ago
>start learning a bit but get distracted and don't bother anymore
>finally want to get in 2 weeks ago when BTC was at 10k
>put it off because busy and had a vacation planned
>now it's almost 20k

Fuck me so much

Man, I don't get how index funds are worth it, unless you want to spend your money once you're retired. If i put in $100k and we say that it rises by 5 % every year... It will only be worth $140k after 10 fucking years.

What's the point unless you are already wealthy/rich?

you are like a littel babby
its not too late for you to join and become %1 resident bagholder

100M sats

Also
>washing machine broke down, had to get it repaired for 260
>flight home got cancelled, had to fork out 470 for two nights in a hotel and another 500 for an one hour flight
>who knows when the airline will compensate for that

Thank God I even had a credit card with a decent limit. But that shit took a big chunk out of my savings I wanted to invest.. and now Christmas is here and I gotta buy lots of presents.

Yeah I will buy some today just for the hell of it. Also wanted to gift my baby niece a paperwallet with a bit of BTC on it. Maybe in 18 years it will pay off.

Sounds like you're a seasoned Bitcoin investor already.

yahoo finance is normie central. it's worse than stockwits.

Exactly same boat as you user. I'm selling some shares and that goes through tomorrow since the market is closed. I'll be getting around ~350$ to invest in crypto

Lol same. Bought $300 of bitcoin for my birthday for the lols and then it dumped hard. It got me so panicked that I ended up reading about crypto for a week straight now I have $600 in alts.

1. Sitting on a shitcoin with hopes it will 8000% will leave you with heavy bags.
2. Expecting major gains from the big coins is unrealistic

I'm not poor.
Just wanna get my foot in the door before I learn further

>I bought and sold bitcoin in 2013 for """ huge""" gains

So the fact that BTC and LTC is up over 200% from last month, no big deal?

I mean sure its not 1000% in a day like some shit coins, but at least I know I could sell and that the devs are Sergey.

Also, I wouldn't be suprised if we see BTC at $50K and LTC at $5k next year same time.

at least i bought 2000 shares of AIG in 2008

Buddy you’re self cucking there are literally coins doubling in value in one day right now, there is so much fucking money to be made on this Chuckie Cheese token bullshit

Lel my first gains of the year was winning $1000 betting on Trump. I had absolute faith in his victory, which was dumb in retrospect. I should have directly reinvested into crypto and I would have some cash right now but my mind was elsewhere.

If you put in enough money that you can get rich off of 250% future BTC gains, more power to you.

It would be awesome, but don't expect it.
The only thing you can expect gains from with absolute certainty is your own ability to read the graphs and predict when something is going to pop.

300 to 5k is a 16x gain.
That's 1 year.
If you were to get 50% gains every day it wouldn't even take you a week to get that kind of money. Just FYI.

There are literally lottery tickets millioning in value right now and have been forever. Why on earth would you gamble with this low return coin shit?

>tfw you make 51k worth of cryptos without an initial investment

I got into altcoins 3 days ago, if you're too retarded to realize the biggest investment opportunity of your lifetime is right now then I can't help you. You could mine a shitcoin, sell it and then sell a pumped shitcoin and have thousands of dollars in hours.

I can't explain how fuckin glad I am to be alive, at this moment and time. For the first time in my life it feels like I have a purpose to exist, my dad said he was proud of me and I don't have to work. I'm actually crying a bit, it sounds melodramatic doesn't it? Clicking a couple buttons on my computer has given me something I've tried my entire life to find, and you're sitting here saying you missed it. The ride just started, get ready to start climbing. If you're smart then you'll make it, it's all laid out for you. Best of luck anons.

Are you kidding? ADA went 2x today alone, doge is going 5x in the next month, etc

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No It's 162K

>Also, I wouldn't be suprised if we see BTC at $50K and LTC at $5k next year same time.
I would be, it's way too little.

It's not really a gamble if you have some degree of common sense. This game feeds on normie money holding bags for you to profit. If you're too normie to handle the pressure then stay poor.

His point stands. I have half a mind to cash out my 401k/stocks and put into crypto. I mean I won't, but I definitely could.

Don't really have to be rich. You need to park your money somewhere, unless you're 100% in crypto. Better in a brokerage account than a checking account.

I made $51,000 FUCKING dollars in 3 days without spending a single cent, what are you gambling? Your free time? If you're a NEET like me that shouldn't matter.

>If you're smart you'll make it. Its all laid out for you

This meme gets passed around a lot but means little on this shilling board

we're barely approaching what seems like the general population realizing whats happening in the cryptospace, get the fuck in here NOW.

lel the "gamble" is just how much you make that day. some gains are better than others, but as long as you ride the wave you'll literally always profit.

unless of course you're a weak handed faggot, of which clearly there is no shortage, in which case you deserve what happens to you.

What did you mine that gave you $51k in three days?

Just take it easy. The blockchain is still a new thing and people are finding new uses to it all the time.

Right now, I know of 2 companies who are going to make resource backed tokens. The market has not discovered it yet so the price are still really low.
The american company Canamex is going to make the tokens GOLD and SILVER, and the norwegian company Element is going to make the tokens IRON and NICKEL.
It may crash the whole futuremarket, so this is some serious shit.

Having a small bet in both is a good future investment, this may be "the new bitcoin"

This: And 5% is pretty low. It's worth it because it gives you pretty much the best expectation value you can hope for. You may prefer gambling (bitcoin, casino, lottery, whatever) but they are not "worth it" in the sense that statistically speaking you're making a loss.

>and now Christmas is here and I gotta buy lots of presents
If you have a liberal family just convert to islam.

>10-20x returns
Yeah, i wish. Just got into crypto, making 20% profits from 80$ investment.

If you have some common sense and properly predict the future?

Your LARP sensor is weak user.

You will be saying the same thing about today when your 40

There are people who can read markets really fucking well, and there are really rich people who have enough money to manipulate prices. If you're too much of a brainlet to do it on your own then you need to find groups of these people and befriend them.

>daily trading meme

The gamble is that you might just as well have lost that and more. The gamble is that statistically speaking trying to beat the market and predict highs and lows you lose. Passive funds typically beat 2/3rds of actively managed funds, and they are managed by professionals, not some neet. You got lucky, now you should cash out asap and make a statistically sound investment. If you buy a $1 lottery ticket and win 1 million dollars, do you think it's a good idea to buy 1 million lottery tickets? That's what you're doing.

New things will come up, be smart.

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>thinking market trends that consistently show up in sine waves is fucking hard
>attributes it to literal fortune telling
LEL

>tfw you only saw btc as a means to buy lsd and never even considered it an investment

Then how come the majority of actively managed funds is beaten by passive funds when it's so easy.

You're a fucking moron, trading in fiat is not a zero sum game, trading in satoshis is a zero sum game but there a lot of fucking retards

because the very groundwork of cryptocurrency was laid out by 2000% gains among the major coins?

let me put it this way.
multi-thousand % gains happened within the span of weeks after years.
hundred % gains happen daily.

its up to you what you want to do.
hold out on a prayer to win the lottery that your shitcoin doesn't die and happens to be worth 100053t7y32985678329853278953092532735298783295753295327898 down the line.
or multiply your money over consecutive trades and start making some real fuckin money like, today.

BTCZ and a little bit of Verge. I realized the potential of Verge, so I sold all my BTCZ and put it in Verge. Now it's all in ADA. Common sense folks will get you far

This, anyhow it's impossible to lose on mining new coins and shilling to get more. Worst case scenario you lost time, best case scenario it goes up a bit and you made bux. Then you can be as passive or aggressive as you want, because you're not worried about losing your 'investment' that you consider your USD.

You get dividends as well from the companies in the index fund user, which you reinvest.

It's nowhere near Cryptogains, but if you put in 5k at 18 years old and put in 2k every year for a couple decades and it'll make you a millionaire

>tfw nuked a hdd with 2 btc I mined way back just for fun

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>we're barely approaching what seems like the general population realizing whats happening in the cryptospace, get the fuck in here NOW.

This. If someone think it is already “too late”, he still doesnt understand crypto. So if you dont invest now, you dont need to blame yourself - you didnt believe back then, nor you believe now. You would propably sold anyway prematurely.

Keep calm, study how crypto works, and if you get it, invest.

let me put it also this way
>timmy has been hodling since .11 for 3 years
>tom has been trading for meager gains each day consistently making a humble wage
>BBCoin shoots up 1488% in 2 days
>timmy is rewarded greatly for his patience and practice of getting cucked
>tom bought in at .20 and still gained 1488% because he had the foresight to invest just before its massive bump

>>tfw you missed out on LITERALLY the biggest investment opportunity of your lifetime.
Not an investment, clown. It's a gamble...though odds may be better than a casino, you should be intellectually honest enough to know that you are buying into a ponzi scam.

>Keep calm, study how crypto works, and if you get it, invest.

If you're calling it "investing" you didn't "study how crypto works" or you just don't get it.

Wait what? You have insane transaction costs (fees or inflation through mining rewards) because crypto is inefficient by design to be secure.

if you never sell less than you bought you will never lose. if you dont buy at ATH you wont lose. this is only a gamble for people with no discipline. they are essentially paying you for their own stupidity, they kind of deserve it.

>the foresight to invest just before its massive bump
may was well use that super power to pick winning lottery numbers.
if there was to objectively determine when it will happen, then other's knowing the same information would change the timing.
and knowing when a rally will happen is useless after the fact

I am at this since November and have Not made a single profit

>be too dumb to follow news
>be too dumb to see when people are pumping or dumping
>be too dumb for the internet in general
>thinks the people who do all of this are wannabe fortune tellers
>attributes it to a gamble at a casino
>buys a coin and holds it for 20 years with the belief it will make him a gorillion dollars

>if you never sell less than you bought you will never lose.

On the contrary. If you're buying in now, you've already lost.

Tell me how much 1 BTC is worth if there are no "exchanges" around and your only option is to trade directly.

Furthermore, tell me how your "stack of bitcoin" is worth anything if you aren't even trying to convert a portion of it to a currency you can actually use to...you know...buy stuff?

Say you have 100 BTC and are eyeing up a private jet or whatever cucks buy - what exchange will let you "sell" 100 BTC and trasnfer out $2M USD in two transactions?

All crypto is literally one SEC regulation away from doom, and once fake news is on the bandwagon, you can rest assured the end is near.

>if you never sell less than you bought you will never lose
or if you can't sell at a profit at all.
it's gambling because all of you're profits are ultimately realized by selling to others trying to do the same thing. eventually the system will run out of new players.

So you didn't get my point at all? Of course you can make potentially bigger gains with active trading, but still, passive funds are routinely beating actively managed funds by professionals. If you try to beat the market you lose on average. You may still prefer to try, it's a matter of preference. In other words, the richest guys will have been active traders but the average active trader will be poorer than the average passive investor.